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Would somebody please explain "cause and effect" to David Broder?

April 26, 2009 10:08 am ET by Jamison Foser

Here's David Broder:

If ever there were a time for President Obama to trust his instincts and stick to his guns, that time is now, when he is being pressured to change his mind about closing the books on the "torture" policies of the past.

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Obama is being lobbied by politicians and voters who want something more -- the humiliation and/or punishment of those responsible for the policies of the past. They are looking for individual scalps -- or, at least, careers and reputations.

Their argument is that without identifying and punishing the perpetrators, there can be no accountability -- and therefore no deterrent lesson for future administrations. It is a plausible-sounding rationale, but it cloaks an unworthy desire for vengeance.

And more David Broder:

Gaithersburg, Md.: Settling Scores: I actually don't see it so much as settling scores as a warning to the future. Perhaps if there was a deterrent in place, we would not have the situation where some politicians feel above the law. Just because Nixon said it's legal if the president does it, it must be true. I think that while the pardoning of Nixon helped in the short-run, it caused irreparable harm in the long-term.

Thanks

David S. Broder: Yours is a perfectly legitimate point of view. But I have become convinced that there is not much learning that takes place from one administration to the next; otherwise, we would not have repeated scandals and coverups in Washington. So I think we're better off putting our focus on the policies (and people) a new president is putting into place.

Maybe someone could create some sort of diagram or flow chart for Broder, showing the connection between his preference that executive lawbreaking go unpunished with his complaints that administrations don't learn from the scandals of their predecessors?  Here, I'll take a first stab at it:

Administrations do learn from their predecessors. They learn from the fact that Nixon was pardoned. And they learn from the fact that Reagan and Bush (and those they pardoned) got away without punishment for Iran-Contra. And if the Bush administration officials who ordered torture and illegal wiretaps don't face punishment, future administrations will certainly will learn from that.

The question is not whether administrations learn from their predecessors - it is whether the lessons they learn are the ones we want them to learn.

David Broder is teaching a pretty clear lesson - that presidential administrations can do pretty much whatever the hell they want*, and the DC Establishment will close ranks behind them. And then he's complaining that presidential administrations do pretty much whatever the hell they want.

* As long as they don't lie about sex.

UPDATE: It's worth keeping in mind that Broder wasn't exactly chomping at the bit for investigations of administration wrongdoing while Bush was in office, either.  In 2006, Broder wrote that Bush "has proved to be lawless and reckless. He started a war he cannot finish, drove the government into debt and repeatedly defied the Constitution."  But Broder didn't call for resignation or impeachment of the president he described as "lawless," or even call for investigations.  So Broder didn't back investigations during Bush's presidency, and now he says we can't investigate the administration once it has left office.  And he wonders why we have "repeated scandals and coverups in Washington."

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    • Author by fawltylogic (April 26, 2009 11:02 am ET)
         
      One has to wonder exactly what kind of crimes a Republican administration would have to commit in order for pundits to admit that investigations would be in order? We know that when it comes to a Democratic administration, perjury to hide infidelity in a civil lawsuit is enough, but obviously there are different standards for Dems and Repubs. 
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      • Author by mk3872 (April 26, 2009 11:33 am ET)
           

        Doesn't matter. These rules only apply to Replublican presidents.

        Just like the DHS report last week had the GOP calling for Napolitano to step down.

        So, too, any transgression by Clinton was a call for impeachment.

        Wait until an Obama aide runs into trouble. They will call for Obama to resign IMMEDIATELY.

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        • Author by LuvLuLu (April 26, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
             

          Just like those on the right are totally ignoring the fact that Obama basically had to release the torture memos. The Bush Administration should have released them, because any government/FOIA lawyer could tell you that there's no legit reason to hold them back.

          But the Bush Administration wanted to put Obama in a tough spot, so rather than the responsible party taking responsibility for their misdeeds, they delayed the inevitable (remember what Sec. Gates said a couple of days ago - it's inevitable that these memos, and the volumnious torture photos to come will come out).

          So, according to Broder, because the Bush Admin was very good at putting off the inevitable, we can't ever hold them accountable?

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    • Author by LuvLuLu (April 26, 2009 7:09 pm ET)
         
      The Bush Administration proved so corrupt and secretive during their run that it was clear that they weren't going to hold anyone responsible for errors. It's sad but true. It's also sad but true that too many people don't understand 'cause and effect'. Today on talk radio, a famous radio doctor was listening to a woman with epilepsy say that she had a seizure when she was switched from one medicine to another and the cause was that the sample medicine she was switched to had expired a few months before she took it. People with epilepsy have seizures. FDA regulations require much more stringent rules for saying that a drug has a 3 year lifespan, when most do, versus a 1 year lifespan, so most drug manufacturers simply use the easier requirements to say the drug expires in the shorter timeframe even though the potency is still fine years later. This woman jumped to a baseless conclusion because she wanted someone to blame for her seizure. The doctor that gave her some sample meds that were old had to be to blame. The radio doctor told her she was full of it. David Broder is also full of it.
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (April 27, 2009 12:12 am ET)
         
      Despite his lack of logical thinking, David Broder won a Pulitzer. That's right. David Broder and Maureen Dowd are somehow Pulitzer award winners.
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