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According to Fox News, Abu Ghraib photos show "detainee 'abuse' "

May 12, 2009 8:15 pm ET by Media Matters staff

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    • Author by Dem02020 (May 12, 2009 8:29 pm ET)
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      If anybody has any sense, they won't release or clear any photographs or videotape or audio recordings in this matter: none zilch nada zero nothing... people were already played upon and manipulated enough, by the many images that were released with regard to that facility in IRAQ: it did nothing for anybody, it was just a lot of disgusting pictures was all... and if you think that people were charged or punished as a result of what they did at that facility in IRAQ, you're right they were, but it was not at all necessary for Justice to be achieved in that matter, to release those photos to the news media and to the public.

      It was a sickness that could as easily have been treated in private, and never needed to be aired so publicly.
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      • Author by jonwisby (May 13, 2009 7:37 am ET)
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        Are you ashamed of what your country has done?
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      • Author by pete592 (May 13, 2009 11:07 am ET)
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        You're completely overlooking how our soldiers were scapegoated. The pro-torture lobby is alive and well today, which includes former members of the Bush regime, yet back when our soldiers were on trial, they ran and hid behind the "bad apples" excuse.

        Justice was not achieved in this matter, but the release of the photos was critical to exposing the hypocrisy, cowardice, and negligence of those in the highest leadership positions.
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      • Author by solon (May 13, 2009 4:05 pm ET)
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        Absolutly wrong. First you STILL have many on the right saying there WAS no torture. Second part of the process of making amends is that you AKNOWLEDGE your wrongdoing, openly, publicly and completely this is why in a court of law when you plead guilty you allocute. Also THIS is part one of process of letting the world KNOW we are seriously turning our back on torture. Trying to keep it OUR dirty little secret would be a serious mistake. The Iraqis already KNOW they have been tortured.
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    • Author by ragin126294 (May 12, 2009 8:52 pm ET)
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      I think the pictures of abuse should be published because it demonstrates how a phony war can turn into abuse approved at the highest levels. Wrong is wrong even during "Wartime". The Bush/Cheyney Administration should be brought to Justice.
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (May 12, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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      This comment is pending approval and won't be displayed until it is approved.

      Misleading CNN.com home page link:

      Al Qaeda figure who gave Iraq link reported dead.

      Misleading headline:

      Al Qaeda figure who provided link to Iraq reportedly dead in Libya.

      Actual first line:

      The accused terrorist who said he was tortured into making a false connection between al Qaeda and Iraq has died in a Libyan prison, human rights monitors said Tuesday.

      Notice the one word missing from the headline and the home page link that's included in the story? That's right -- FALSE. Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi FALSELY linked Iraq to al Qaeda, a link the Bush administration wanted so it could justify an attack on Iraq instead of going after Osama in the wake of the 9-11 attacks.

      And if you dig REALLY deeply, you'll find this passage:

      After the invasion of Iraq, he said his statements connecting Iraq to al Qaeda had been made in response to threats by American interrogators and by beatings at the hands of intelligence agents in Egypt, where he was transferred in 2002.

      The Bush administration lied us into war, tortured, and lied about the effectiveness of torture. CNN can't be bothered to give that the coverage it deserves, but they CAN create misleading home page links and headlines. Your "liberal media" at work.
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    • Author by dave (May 12, 2009 10:52 pm ET)
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      Release the photos already. Seeing the enemy in "trying" positions....bring it. Pictures of Batman wearing a brown jumpsuit dosen't scare me. Nor do "naked towers", dog lead prisoners, or barking dogs. Video of Americans getting their heads cut off do. I know the left's cry of "If we torture them, they will hate us more". They hate us already. Rising above it makes us Americans no doubt, but wussies. I would've put the "p" in but you get the point. Winning wars makes us American, too. We are better than the rest of the world, but I'm sick of getting sh*t on by religious Muslim nutballs with no legit firepower other than roadside bombs, who should be nuked, and we are just afraid of doing it. "Flies" should be swated and not catered to. Just kill these guys already with superior firepower and get out. Stop worrying about elections and do the right thing.
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      • Author by pete592 (May 12, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
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        "wearing a brown jumpsuit dosen't scare me. Nor do "naked towers", dog lead prisoners, or barking dogs."

        Why were our soldiers sent to Leavenworth for it while our president hid behind the "bad apples" excuse? Where was the pro-torture lobby when our soldiers needed them?
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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (May 12, 2009 11:38 pm ET)
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        Superior firepower doesn't work in counterinsurgencies or intervening in a civil war.

        First, Iraq has nothing to do with al Qaeda. What's going on in Iraq is a civil war. Sunnis (the minority) who used to be in charge don't like being on the outs post-Saddam and want to be in charge again. Shia (the majority) who were oppressed by Sunnis for decades want to exact revenge now that they're in charge. Neither side cares for the continued US presence in Iraq. Killing "them" whoever "they" are doesn't accomplish anything for the US, and only serves to breed more of "them" -- one of "them" might not be a terrorist now, but kill his family members, or embarrass him in front of his neighbors by breaking into his house in the middle of the night or detaining him without charges, and he'll become one.

        Afghanistan is also a shambles. al Qaeda has not been stopped and the Taliban is resurgent because the US tried to use superior firepower instead of fighting a counterinsurgency.

        As for torture, first, it DOESN'T work. Look at my post -- Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi was tortured and gave FALSE information to make it stop. Waterboarding was done on some of these guys HUNDREDS of times, yet produced nothing of value -- if it works, why do it hundreds of times? If it works, why did those hundreds of times not yield results?

        More importantly, even if torture did work (which it doesn't), the US cannot surrender the moral high ground by engaging in it. If we want to win friends and allies, if we want to condemn and punish wrongdoing by others, then we cannot commit bad acts ourselves.
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      • Author by Meremark (May 12, 2009 11:39 pm ET)
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        dave (May 12, 2009 10:52 pm ET)

        You are sick. Mentally ill. Certified. All koolaid and no skool.
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      • Author by solon (May 13, 2009 3:43 am ET)
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        Cheering on torture makes my skin crawl
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      • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (May 13, 2009 4:15 am ET)
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        The most compelling defense of sadism since the Nuremburg trials. Dave, you are a sicker SOB then I thought. Good job rising below our expectations.
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      • Author by harley (May 13, 2009 8:19 am ET)
           
        I'm sick of this nation getting sh*t on by religious conservative nutballs with no legit firepower other than hate, smears, lies, and death threats, who should arrested and deported, and we are just afraid of doing it.
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (May 13, 2009 11:54 am ET)
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        What a disgusting post. Dripping with narcissism, self-righteousness, and that ridiculous 'American Exceptionalism' garbage... 'scuse me while I puke.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 13, 2009 8:05 am ET)
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      It's entirely fitting that pictures of "abuse" were aired once again by Fox "News."
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    • Author by seeryer (May 13, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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      Hey Fox, you know some of these "abused" detainees actually "died" don't you?
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