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Does David Broder think all Republicans served in the military?

May 21, 2009 11:48 am ET by Jamison Foser

David Broder:

Some adaptation is necessary for almost every president because few experiences can really prepare them for the challenges [of becoming Commander in Chief of the military] Obama described to Meacham. George W. Bush went through it after Sept. 11, 2001, subordinating his domestic agenda to focus on the terrorist threat -- and never changing.

But the step is harder for today's Democratic presidents than for their predecessors -- or their Republican contemporaries.

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And a third reason is that today's Democrats really are isolated from the military. Harry Truman had been an artillery captain; John Kennedy and Carter, Navy officers. But Bill Clinton did everything possible to avoid the draft, and Obama, motivated as he was to public service, never gave a thought to volunteering for the military.

As opposed to George W. Bush, who got out of serving in Vietnam due to his daddy's connections, then skipped out on his National Guard Duty?

And, since Broder made the broad claim that "today's Democrats" (not just recent Democratic presidents) "really are isolated from the military" due to a lack of military, what about Dick Cheney, who had "other priorities" than serving in Vietnam? Or Newt Gingrich? Or these Republicans?

There are 96 military veterans in the House of Representatives, and 25 in the Senate. That leaves more than 400 members of congress who are not veterans. I'm not going to bother counting them up by party; suffice to say: there are a lot of Republican members of Congress who didn't serve in the military. Broder's suggestion that Democrats, and only Democrats, are isolated from the military because of a lack of military service is nonsense.

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    • Author by RABBITLUVR (May 21, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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      Hey David, what about 'today's Republicans'? You know, the ones who still dwell in the basement munching on cheese puffs listening to Limbaugh and posting on Free Republic? You know, the ones who are too fat and out of shape to even make it through one day of boot camp?

      Never mind the 'students' and the ones with cysts...
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (May 21, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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      Maybe Broder just means that Republicans are more predisposed to inflicting death and destruction. It comes naturally to them...like tax cuts for the rich and powerful.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
         
      I added it all up once, and this was a few years ago, before the dem re-takeover, and while the numbers DID favor the republicnas (as have more vets) it was not by much. Something like 55% of the vets were 'Pubs and 45% were Dems. (And 45% is hardly ISOLATED - after all the REPUBLICANS are still around, and still managing to muck everything up!) Plus that was a few years ago. With Jim Webb & Co coming in, it's probably pretty close to 50/50.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
           
        Just did some quick reserch. In the SENATE there are 14 Vets who are Democrats and 12 that are Republicans. So in one house, the majority of Vets are Dems.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
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          In the house I found 44 Vets that are Democrats, 48 that are Republican.

          So adding the Seante numbers we get: 58 Dems, 60 Pubs. WOW. What an overwhelmng majority!

          I guess those DEMS are ISOLATED, with the 49% minority!
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
               
            Just in case anyone wants to see MY sources:

            http://www.vietvet.org/senatevet.htm
            http://grunt.space.swri.edu/housevet.htm
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          • Author by Max Credits (May 21, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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            By the way.... Arlen Specter (D) makes it a 59-59 tie.
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            • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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              There you go! My source WAS a few months old! Great catch! Thanks! 50-50 I love it!
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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (May 21, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
               
            Yeah, but you gotta remember that Sen. Kerry,as an example, is a quiche-eatin' dude who shot himself in battle to get that Purple Heart - according to Malkin - which makes him a 'phony soldier' (Pat. Pend.) according to Rush. So, by definition, Kerry is disqualified from the list.

            See, this is how guys like Broder think.
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    • Author by thebewilderness (May 21, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
         
      I think it depends on what the term "isolated" means.
      Do they hang out with the Brass at the Pentagon? I don't know.
      Do they sit on the boards of the military contractors? I don't know.
      Do they have military installations in their district to represent? Not many.

      I have a suspicion that what he means is that they are outside the patronage network, eh?
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    • Author by Dem02020 (May 21, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
         

      Does the empty political rhetoric about "supporting the troops" include the idea of supporting the many commanding officers of our U.S. Troops?

      I'm not thinking here of any commander who might be a liar, who might lie to the American People and to Congress about just what is and what is not a threat to their National Security... nor do I mean any commander who might have some personal financial interest in defense spending, and so therefore might be accused of ordering invasions for the purpose of siphoning off billions of dollars from the U.S. Treasury to their friends and former associates in the defense industry...

      It's not those type of commanders I'm thinking about here.

      Instead I'm thinking about commanders who come to that sobering responsibility, sincere and well intentioned, thinking only of the National Security of the American People, and also as far as they can, of the lives of the U.S. troops under their command, and who are not personally financially interested in defense spending, or would never lie or exaggerate a threat just so as to inflate defense spending, and maybe inflate their own reputations...

      With regard to those commanders who are truly sincere and responsible and serious and diligent, and command and act only in the interests of the National Security of the American People, and then also to whatever degree possible, in the interests of the lives of the U.S. Troops under their command, do those commanders deserve our support at this time?

      Are those commanders included also, in the empty political rhetoric about "supporting the troops" : do we interpret their commanders also as having our support when we say that?

      Where is this line drawn, between the troops and their commanders?

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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (May 21, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
         
      I just e-mailed Broder...

      I told him he needed to check this one out. Broder is so caught up in his beltway poobah mindset. He's in danger of becoming a complete fool.
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