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NYT, please define "returned"

May 22, 2009 7:39 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Justin Elliott at TMPMuckraker highlighted this Times flip-flop, and it deserves the attention. The Times' lead, upper-right A1 story on Thursday was this [emphasis added]:

1 In 7 Detainees Rejoined Jihad, Pentagon Finds

In it, the Times' Elizabeth Bumiller claimed the following:

An unreleased Pentagon report provides new details concluding that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, has returned to terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.

The conclusion could strengthen the arguments of critics who have warned against releasing any more prisoners as part of President Obama's plan to shut down the prison by January 2010.

The Times left little doubt: According to the Pentagon, 1 out of 7 terrorist detained "rejoined jihad." They "returned to terrorism." That announcement went off like a firecracker with conservatives seizing upon the revelation as a way to bash the Obama White House for having a flawed strategy to deal with the detainees.  

But then appearing on MSNBC later in the day Thursday, Bumiller announced, "There is some debate about whether you should say 'returned' because some of them were perhaps not engaged in terrorism, as we know -- some of them are being held there on vague charges."

Really? There was some "debate"? Among whom? Because there was little hint of any debate in the Times' original article. It's true, as Elliott noted, that the Times online later adjusted the wording of the article to reflect more ambiguity about the detainees' activity. But their supposed return to terrorism was the central thrust of the news report. That's what landed the story on A1. How could the Times not be sure about that before they published the piece?

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    • Author by magnolialover (May 22, 2009 7:48 am ET)
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      It is still funny to me that if some were released and rejoined, or returned to terrorist groups or activities, why is the media painting this as a bad thing against the Obama administration? Last I knew, these people were released under Bush. So if they have returned to terrorist groups/activities, who should get the blame for that? That would be Bush.

      Anyway, I don't believe that Obama is talking about releasing anyone, just shutting down the Gitmo operation, and moving them elsewhere. This seems to be a basic point that everyone ignores, as if shutting down Gitmo means that everyone there would be released.
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      • Author by nerzog (May 22, 2009 8:59 am ET)
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        That's a good point. If they know that they have "returned to terrorism", that means they must have known that they had been in "terrorism" before they were captured. If they knew that, why were they released? If they didn't know, then how can they claim that they "returned to terrorism". Isn't it possible that they were pi$$ed off by their imprisonment and became terrorists?

        Furthermore, I'd love to know exactly what "returned to terrorism or military activity" means. If they have an AK-47 in their house, does that qualify as "military activity"? If they give the finger to a convoy of American soldiers, does that qualify as "terrorism"?

        But, wait... we know that the Pentagon, like the CIA, would NEVER lie to us.
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    • Author by creeksneakers2 (May 22, 2009 9:22 am ET)
         
      If they are a threat, why haven't we been attacked?
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    • Author by mausa.nonia8023 (May 22, 2009 9:43 am ET)
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      They don't ask the likely effect of imprisoning blameless people, preventing family or legal contact in a foreign country for years -- sort of like kidnapping but without the ransom.

      True, many of these released persons would be happy to return to their former life, or what remained of it, but wouldn't you expect some to be interested in some sort of retribution?

      Noni
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (May 22, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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      It is a stretch but I have read in the past history nations have made efforts to change the mind of prisoners of war and bring them to the other side. there seems to be no evidence of that happening in this war, at GITMO. And one must never forget those one in seven were released by the Bush 43 administration, and we all know Bush 43 never releases terrorrists. What a bunch of buffoonery by these individuals in the press that continually igore this fact.
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    • Author by nerzog (May 22, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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      some of them are being held there on vague charges



      Vague charges?

      But, wait.... I thought they were the "worst of the worst"... too dangerous for our Maximum security prisons? So deadly that merely moving them to American Soil would cause California to slide off into the sea?

      VAGUE CHARGES?
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    • Author by puppienrainbows (May 22, 2009 4:41 pm ET)
         
      After reading the posts, I was going to add a comment, knowing full well my "review" is still pending, and then I realized that seeing not one dissenting viewpoint, but rather a series of self congratulatory rhetorical posts, it became clear. Those with viewpoints different from the Media Matters staff are not welcome here. Too bad! Healthy debate is always superior to a hollow echo chamber! The old proverb still holds true, "an empty can makes the most noise"
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (May 22, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
         
      Why doesn't the American government take a lesson from the ONE THING Saudi Arabia does right?

      Before they release someone they picked up on terrorist-charges, they have an extensive rehabilitation course, letting the man have some anger-therapy, so that they ventilate their frustration in other ways than return to terrorism.

      One man released this way returned to Al-Qaida, but later turned himself in to the Saudi government, persuaded by the government through his family, and they cut him a deal where his wife could visit him.

      The American way, is to release prisoners straight out of Gitmo, and then be surprised when you see a video of him driving a truck filled with explosives into an Iraqi army-base.

      It's like with the regular prisons. Just punish them and then let them out, and they'll do the same, if not worse crimes.

      You've got to rehabilitate them, so they'll go on a different path once released.
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