Conservative shock jock undergoes brief waterboarding, concludes it is "absolutely torture"
May 22, 2009 4:46 pm ET by Karl Frisch
Via Huffington Post:
Erich "Mancow" Muller, a Chicago-based conservative radio host, recently decided to silence critics of waterboarding once and for all. He would undergo the procedure himself, and then he would be able to confidently convince others that it is not, in fact, torture.
Or so he thought. Instead, Muller came out convinced.
"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow said. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back... It was instantaneous... and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."
"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face... I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "
Mancow Being Waterboarded:
Mancow's Post-Waterboarding Thoughts:
As the Huffington Post notes, "Christopher Hitchens underwent nearly the same experiment last year. He, too, concluded that waterboarding is torture."
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Also, one of Mancow's producers contacted MSNBC, trying to get in on Olbermann's charity bid, only she thought it was "$10,000", not the $1000 that he had promised Hannity, those figures were per second Hannity lasted. Olbermann, showing that HE is a man of his word, actually AGREED to the $10,000/sec bid! So the Countdown Host will now be donating $60,000!!!!!!!!!!!
Hannity, Olbermann, is better than you. Game over.
What happens now? Will he become a vocal opponent of waterboarding.... will he openly defy Darth Cheney?
Or... will he just slink away and shut up?
Then they'll get some old retired Navy Seals on FOX who will say that in their opinion it's not torture, or that it's only "psychological torture" and not physical torture, etc. etc.
In other words, nothing's going to change their opinions. Mancow has a whole weekend to develop his lame excuses, and he will.
I've never tried this myself - on myself or anyone else. Don't care to, either...
Like the NeoCon above stated..."ABSOLUTELY TORTURE"
HANNITY? Come out and play!
"From now on, I'm going to dedicate half of each broadcast to getting Barney Frank reelected."
I'd love to see Cheney waterboarded. Come on Dick, there's nothing to it. Even when you get up in years it's a piece of cake. Jump in , man!! Show your mettle.
You dodged the draft, now stand up like a man. Show them conservative might. Stand up like a man, Richard!!
Now regarding this torture thing. Why is it you care how we go about getting information from anyone who wants to kill us? If your immediate family was in danger (if you can imagine) – you know you would do whatever it takes to protect them and keep them safe – any other answer would be dishonest.
Since we all have our opinions, waterboarding is not torture – I don’t care what anyone says.
You seem more concerned about protecting terrorists than your own country. I would like to know how many words and comments you have made in defense of our loses since 911?
And, as loonz pointed out above, this doofus was able to make it stop whenever he wanted. Not a particularly realistic experience IMO, even if he did come to the same conclusion as the rest of us civilized folk.
How can both be true????????
They start by making up a lie -- "waterboarding is just getting the face a little wet". They go all-out to convince their audience, but they don't believe it themselves.
But the media is such a strong megaphone that they forget it's a lie. The stupid ones (like Mancow here) think the lie is conservatism and proceed to act on it.
The cornerstone of conservative thought -- supply-side economics -- was once just a joke to smuggle in swindles for the rich.
When all is said and done: I want Cheney to stand up, attach his balls, act like a man, and get WATERBOARDED.
If he's a real conservative, he'll gladly be waterboarded. He dodged the draft, now's the time to stand up and be a man.
Nobody's the least bit suspicious I guess, that the latest media hack (a hack unknown to me before now), the latest media hack to desperately try and keep this issue alive, is someone referred to here as a "Conservative shock jock"...
Nobody sees that, and is suspicious of that?
A "Conservative shock jock" not only volunteers for this idiocy, but then announces "it's torture!"
And then the frothing hysterical knee-jerk crowd runs wild with that pronouncement, keeping the issue alive themselves...
"See? See, we told you! Let's go on with this noise, let's not let go, let's run right to the finish line and never give up and never quit and keep talking about 'torture memos' and 'torture briefings'... c'mon gang, let's make more 'torture noise' and keep this idiocy blacking out any and all good things being done by President Obama and Democrats in Congress, let's keep the radar screen saturated and clouded and cluttered with more and more 'torture' noise!"
Because now a "Conservative shock jock" is baiting us and spurring us on...
Makes sense to me... NOT!
For instance, it can't discuss the culpability of BOTH Pelosi and the Bush administration.
And as I indicated in my post above, waterboarding isn't even the worst to me when it comes to coercing false confessions out of people. It's the most graphic and sellable for the anti-torture crowd, but sleep deprivation is an equally effective and disingenuous way to get someone to say what you want them to say. Just not as sexy for the media.
And as I indicated in my post above, waterboarding isn't even the worst to me when it comes to coercing false confessions out of people. It's the most graphic and sellable for the anti-torture crowd, but sleep deprivation is an equally effective and disingenuous way to get someone to say what you want them to say. Just not as sexy for the media.
He lasted six seconds and knew it was being administered by friends who would stop it immediately any time he asked.
Imagine getting it 183 times in one month, by angry strangers, in a foreign land with no hope of rescue?
But I give him kudos for finally being man enough to find out for himself what the rest of us living in reality already knew...
WATER-BOARDING IS TORTURE!!!
It seems that Mancow will be on The Countdown w/Kieth Olbermann next week... Olbermann is going to give $10k to charity... since Hannity was to much a pu$$y to back up his bluster.
RobRob... as for what you said...
Kinda gives you pause to now see it done in a friendly setting... that this madness was done in our names...
Better yet, setup up playoff system, lets do Hannity and Limbaugh, and the winner of that water-boarding goes up against Cheney, then the winner of that goes right to the top, and goes against Bush.
any "OBAMA" Kool-Aid drinkers have any "Balz" to do so...?
Liberals hear that the Bush admin. used water boarding, read the law that says water boarding is torture and condemn Bush et al for torturing people.
Conservatives hear that the Bush admin. used water boarding, deny there is any law saying it's torture and have to have the procedure performed on them to realize there should be a law against it.
In other words, reality doesn't bend to one's ideology, it is what it is.
Randy