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RedState.com doesn't hear too good

May 26, 2009 4:35 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

Or maybe RedState's Erick Erickson just doesn't want to hear certain things. But does he have to advertise that fact with a comically inaccurate blog post?  Apparently, yes he does.

Erickson was taking a whack at Pennsylvania Republican Tom Ridge who over the weekend committed a RedState mortal sin by tweaking Rush Limbaugh. Ridge had the audacity to suggest Limbaugh turn down the temperature on some of his hate speech rhetoric.

Erickson did not approve and dubbed Ridge a liar:

Tom Ridge, on CNN, said this of Rush Limbaugh:

“Rush articulates his point of view in ways that offend very many… let’s be less shrill… let’s not attack other individuals. Let’s attack their ideas.”

Since when has Rush attacked individuals? I listen to the show regularly. He certainly pokes fun at some of them, but he highlights absurdities of character, etc. in pointing out the fallacies of positions on the left.

For example — the President of the United States wants us all to stop breathing to save the environment, but his administration sends Air Force One on a joy ride to take pictures.

Is that an attack on Obama? No. It is pointing out the inconsistencies in Barack Obama’s policies.

According to RedState, Ridge had it all wrong. Limbaugh doesn't attack individuals, he merely questions policies. Rush is practically a policy wonk. Like when Rush recently claimed Obama supporters have "anti-American" feelings and don't like the U.S.A. Oh wait, that was an attack on tens of millions of individuals.

More like when Rush said Obama's inner circle of "sycophants" would likely die of "anal poisoning." Oh wait, that's a hateful attack on specific individuals also.

What about when Rush attacked Britain's prime minister Gordan Brown, suggesting that if he kept "slobbering" over Obama he'd also be stricken with "anal poisoning"? Oops, obvious attack on an individual (Read: head of state) there.

And remember the time Rush likened Al Qaeda operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to "Howard Dean, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry ... Carl Levin, Nancy Pelosi"? That seemed sort of individual-ish.

What the heck, lets dial up the way-back machine and travel to April 8, 2004 and listen in to Limbaugh's show: 

"Senator Kennedy, a simple question. Does it please you to learn who your friends are? Does it excite you, Senator Kennedy, to learn that the militant, firebrand, murderer of American civilians and military personnel is on your side, Senator Kennedy? Does it encourage you? Does it invigorate you? Does it inspire you, Senator Kennedy, to know that a murdering Al Qaeda-related terrorist has taken up your argument for use against his enemy? How does that make you feel, Senator Kennedy? Does it embarrass you? Because it should. Or does it probably excite you and think you're making headway now. You've got the enemy aligned with you."

Or how about November 2002? From Spinsanity:

On Nov. 15, [Limbaugh] asserted that [Tom] Daschle's criticism of the conduct of the war on terrorism amounted to "an attempt to sabotage the war on terrorism," called him "Hanoi Tom" and suggested that he is " a disgrace to patriotism." On other occasions, Limbaugh has suggested that "In essence, Daschle has chosen to align himself with the axis of evil" and has drawn an extended analogy between Daschle and Satan.

I could probably go on for 34 more paragraphs, but I think you get the idea. Limbaugh apologists like Erickson pretend Rush would never say anything nasty about individuals. But grown-ups like Ridge know the truth.

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    • Author by latanza (May 26, 2009 5:08 pm ET)
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      Please use the same rationalization for the policies and plans of the President. You will be able to convince yourself of anything then. It would be fair to debate for and against and then see what you come up with as far as truth. Rush did just attaack Pelosi, as did I, and you are not being truthful.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (May 26, 2009 5:31 pm ET)
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        I think I can speak for most here by saying, "Huh?"
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        • Author by latanza (May 26, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
             
          Rush is defended for not doing personal attacks. When you debate a subject, you argue for or against that topic. In this case Erickson chose to debate for Rush and defend or minimize his outtakes on issues, I say evaluate them in both fact and fiction and see which one stands solidly. I'm sorry for the non clarity.
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          • Author by seahawks123 (May 26, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
               
            I guess it wasn't clear who you were addressing with your comments.
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    • Author by seeryer (May 26, 2009 5:15 pm ET)
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      Add to that they don't think so good either:
      "the President of the United States wants us all to stop breathing to save the environment, but his administration sends Air Force One on a joy ride to take pictures.

      Is that an attack on Obama? No. It is pointing out the inconsistencies in Barack Obama’s policies."

      A.) The POTUS wants all Americans dead? Erickson claims Obama wants us to stop breathing. OK, I will grant him hyperbole but the kicker is how he says the Air Force one flyover in NYC is inconsistent with his policies. What policy? The flying over NYC in Air Force One policy? So, if Obama pushes cap and trade he has to use a glider getting around the world instead of Air Force One? Does it matter to Erickson that Obama did not even know about the flyover? Only as much to show how "out of touch" he is with what is going on around him. Simpleton logic confuses the hell out of me.

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      • Author by seahawks123 (May 26, 2009 5:31 pm ET)
           
        Double "Huh?".
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        • Author by seeryer (May 27, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
             
          I didn't realize I was talking to a toddler.
          Erickson says, "President of the United States wants us all to stop breathing to save the environment"
          A. That is a flat out lie
          B. I will not take him literally so whatever

          Erickson then says, "but his administration sends Air Force One on a joy ride to take pictures. Is that an attack on Obama? No. It is pointing out the inconsistencies in Barack Obama's policies"
          A. I do not believe environmental policy and the use of Air Force One are even remotely related.
          B. Obama was not even aware of the flyover so attacking Obama because of it is beyond stupid.

          The point in both of my posts was to point out how flwaed Erickson's logic is. Now go put in your paciphier:-)
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    • Author by franky (May 26, 2009 9:39 pm ET)
         
      To play the devil's advocate, perhaps to Mr. Erickson the 'fun poking' by Limbaugh on specific people is immediately translated in Erickson's mind to an attack on a representative of a group. The specific recipient of Limbaugh's attentions is not really the point and shouldn't take it personally. He/she is simply being used to execute an attack on whatever group he/she REPRESENTS either formally as an elected official or emblematically as just a well known member of that group. In other words it's a shorthand method of communication which Limbaugh is engaged in. Erickson reads shorthand and Limbaugh's detractors don't. Perhaps Erickson just assumes everyone can decode as well as he can and that Limbaugh's style of communication is common knowledge and that he's generally understood as Erickson understands him.

      Of course this would raise other concerns especially where members of the group under a particular proxy attack have no choice as to their membership in that group.
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