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Morning Joe journos can't name a successful unionized company, even though one signs their paychecks

June 03, 2009 9:25 am ET by Jamison Foser

The Morning Joe crew was on an anti-union tear this morning, claiming the union label on a company means "sell." Mika Brzezinski went so far as to say of unions: "They cripple the system that makes a company work." Collectively, the journalists on Morning Joe couldn't name a single "successful" unionized company.

This says more about their qualifications to discuss public policy and labor relations than it says about unions. To pick just one obvious example, UPS is unionized -- and the company made more than $3 billion last year. That's "billion" with a "b," and those are profits, not revenues.

Oh, what the heck, let's take one more example. GE is one of the world's largest companies; in 2006, its revenues were greater than the gross domestic products of 80 percent of UN nations. The company made more than $18 billion in 2008 -- again, billion with a b, and again, those are profits, not revenue. All that despite (or, perhaps, because of) the fact that 13 different unions represent GE workers.

Oh, and GE owns NBC-Universal, which owns MSNBC, which pays Joe Scarborough a handsome salary (and the unionized workers who help get his show on the air considerably less.)

Does Joe Scarborough think NBC and GE are not "successful" companies? Does Mika Brzezinski think the unionized workers she no doubt interacts with every day are crippling her ability to do her job, or her employer's ability to be successful?

Or is it possible that the anti-union rants from Morning Joe journalists has something to do with the fact that members of the National Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians-CWA union have protested NBC-Universal? Here's a May 19 press release:

Members of the National Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians-CWA will stage a protest tonight outside NBC Universal's Fall Preview Gala at the Town Hall Theater in Manhattan. More than 2,500 NBCU employees at the NBC Television Network and its owned TV stations in New York, Washington, D.C.; Chicago, and Burbank have been working without a contract for nearly two months. Union and company negotiators have been meeting sporadically since last September; little progress for a new agreement has been made.

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NABET-CWA Locals have filed unfair labor charges and unit clarification petitions with the National Labor Relations Board and put NBC Universal on notice previously that workers will mobilize across the country to fight for a fair and equitable contract. The contract between NABET-CWA and NBC Universal expired at midnight on March 31, 2009. No new talks have been scheduled.

UPDATE: New York Times reporter Andrew Ross Sorkin started off the nonsense about successful unionized companies, saying, "Name a successful unionized company. Think. You're gonna go to break before you come up with one."

If Andrew Ross Sorkin's name sounds familiar, that's probably because he's the reporter who started the myth about the average GM worker being paid $70 an hour. MSNBC's Keith Olbermann named him "Worst Person in the World" for that bit of blatantly false anti-union, anti-worker propaganda.

UPDATE 2: Over at TPM, Brian Beutler has a response from Teamsters president James Hoffa: "The Morning Joe team really should be embarrassed for showing their lack of knowledge on the subject." And Beutler says he has a call in to Sorkin, and is awaiting a response.

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    • Author by frankbyron (June 03, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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      Is it possible for Scarborough and Brzezinski to be any more of an embarrassment?
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    • Author by shaggles (June 03, 2009 11:31 am ET)
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      But just think of the profits UPS and GE/NBC could be making if the unions weren't picking their pockets! (/sarcasm)
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    • Author by pete592 (June 03, 2009 11:33 am ET)
         
      UPS and GE. Imagine that, companies that employ union workers making massive profits, seemingly indifferent to the tough economic times. Who'da thunk it?
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    • Author by sponson (June 03, 2009 11:37 am ET)
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      The sounds of these talking heads' voices was being expertly modulated by Union sound crews, while their very faces were being focused on by Union camera men and women. In some countries, these crewmembers would have shut off the cameras/microphones and left the studio, something I'd like to see become the convention here when such anti-factual garbage occurs on "news" television.
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    • Author by sponson (June 03, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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      If I had been one of the camera or sound crew, I would have been sorely tempted to cut the sound or picture on these anti-union liars.
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    • Author by joedelci (June 03, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
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      Note also that the ever-rugged Scarlboro Man who, with no apparent sense of irony, loves his (French? elitist? effeminate? wimpy?) whip cream laden iced venti lattes so much that they went ahead and inked what I'm sure is a very lucrative deal with coffee monolith Starbucks to promote the show and now proudly display their logo alongside the Morning Joe logo.

      Starbucks is also constantly fighting its workers who formed the IWW Starbucks Workers Union in protest of low wages, unstable hours and chincy health care access.

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      • Author by temphandle scoundrels61atom (June 03, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
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        Scarborough, Brzezinski and the rest of the "on-air talent" on MSNBC actually BELONG to a union themselves - the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, which is as imperfect as every other labor union in America, but which is absolutely indispensible in getting fair wages and treatment for all broadcast media performers, from extras on the daytime soap operas to TV news anchors. As a fellow AFTRA member, I'm pretty disgusted to hear this bilge from the Morning Joe gang. I guess they resent having to pay their union dues.
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        • Author by bolo.boffin2180 (June 03, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
             
          This was what I was about to post. They are members of a union themselves! Thank you!
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    • Author by randy99 (June 03, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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      This is all about the article in the NYTimes where everybody gushed over Jack Welch "sparring" at some dumbass conference witrh Andrew Ross Sorkin, another tool for the media congloerates...(but he's young! He writes snarky articles! C'Mon - he's hip!), amongst other un-notables.

      Welch is the D-Bag that said "Give me a highly successful, unionized American industry" and ever lickspittle reporter and talking head who thinks Jack Welch MUST be right because he's so freakin' rich runs around parroting his line.

      Here's the article - strange how 3 days after this article appears every cable head is saying the same thing, huh?

      Randy

      http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/jack-welchs-night-of-a-thousand-retorts/?scp=2&sq=jack%20welch&st=cse
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    • Author by twseattle (June 03, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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      Terrific post, thank you. The union workers won't walk out because of their professionalism and desire to honor their contract. This just sums up the whole hypocrisy of an anti-union stance by these kind of rich people, who don't even run businesses. Thier own jobs depend on union people ten feet away yet they deny unions play a role at all in what they do. To go down the list of union people they depend on every day could start a whole new blog.

      What really gives the unions the most clout with workers in this country is the advantage they have in health care. But conservatives also fight even setting minimum standards of health care in America. They won't be able to have it both ways anymore, the people moved in that direction by electing Obama. There is huge political advantage for conservatives in even just a little loosening of their health care stance yet it is one of their hardest-fought issues.
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    • Author by jaytingle (June 03, 2009 12:57 pm ET)
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      Let me add my employer to the list of union companies that rake in massive profits: AT&T. It's also worth noting that AT&T is allowed to make as much money as they can, even though their network occupies the public right-of-way. No give backs. But the company expects give backs from us, hence we have been working without a contract for 2 months. AT&T cleared $13B last year with the labor of 80,000 union workers.
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    • Author by tfury (June 03, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
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      Add to the union list all the Bell phone companies, all of the railroads, most of the fire departments, police and ambulance workers. Try and live without these people. The Repug sound bites are getting old and do not carry much weight anymore. Joe and Mika are two of the biggest puppets dangling for the neocons.
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      • Author by twseattle (June 03, 2009 2:03 pm ET)
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        Let's start using non-union ironworkers guiding two-ton beams over your heads. Or, like I said in the other Cramer thread, next time you fly get on a non-union built airplane. I saw one being put together in a garage...
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    • Author by andyvillager (June 03, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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      what about the NFL, NBA and MLB? very high profile unions in our culture. I think they know how to make a dollar...
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    • Author by jr54 (June 03, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
         
      Harley-Davidson and the United Steelworkers
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    • Author by Drawmark (June 03, 2009 2:22 pm ET)
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      Man it's easy to think of profitable US companies. Three off the top of my head:

      1. Boeing

      2. AT&T

      3. Coca-Cola

      These are three iconic American brands. operating world-wide at massive profits, in many countries other than the US that have stronger unions than they face domestically.

      These people are embarrassing.

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    • Author by caitydid (June 03, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
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      Mika and Joe really make me miss Imus. At least he did so much for Veterans. I always turned the channel when his friend Bernie was on. The only guest you have one that I look forword to seeing is Miks's father. The only guest Joe doesn't taalk over. I would have liked to listen to The Nation editor this morning but Joe wouldn't shut his mouth long enough to let her finish a statement. But then he was pushing his book!
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    • Author by LuvLuLu (June 03, 2009 11:10 pm ET)
         
      Actually there's no debate about whether or not unions helped American workers. It's fact. And strengthening American workers helped our nation immensely, and helped American industry as a by-product.
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    • Author by thinkingdissenter (June 04, 2009 1:45 am ET)
         
      Much of Disney is unionized as well.

      In Florida, a so called "right to work" state, Disney World theme park is one of the few places in the state where hourly service employees can actually join a union.

      I don't think Disney has done too bad, even with all those "evil" unions.
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    • Author by afisher (June 04, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
         
      I find it highly amusing that they are criticizing themselves and are willing to overlook that fact. One can only wonder what they would be paid if they didn't have a Union fighting for their salaries, as I do not believe that they have any substantive facts that demonstrate that they are worth what they are paid.

      I am a firm supporter of renaming their show: Morning Joke. Each time the right wing attacks MSNBC as being liberal...they must chuckle to themselves as the POV from this 3 hour informercial is certainly not a liberal representation of political affairs.

      That being said, I quit watching their program in Jan 09. Fair and Balanced...who do they think they are kidding. Fortunately, the BBC now has a similar morning program that is much better!
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    • Author by Media_Worker_For_Fairness (June 04, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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      MSNBC and CNBC are abusing their media outlet status to promote the business agenda of their corporate parent, General Electric, which is adamantly opposed to the Employee Free Choice Act, and will stop at nothing to make sure this field leveling legislation is defeated. This shameless ploy involves not only have conservative hosts talk up opposition to EFCA, but also involves muzzling liberal host Ed Schultz, by threatening to cancel his MSNBC if he continues to talk up EFCA. You'll notice that Ed isn't so muzzled on his radio show where he continues to promote the fair and necessary value of the Employee Free Choice Act because he is outside of GE's circle of influence there.

      Maybe the FCC should look at whether GE is violating its duty to serve in the public interest as a holder of multiple FCC TV station licenses by this outrageous media bias against EFCA disguised as "news".
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