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Can Glenn Beck up his claims about Frank Rich and Keith Olbermann?

June 18, 2009 3:25 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

Specifically, that they ranted against members of the U.S. military. That Olbermann demonized Army recruiters and that Rich talked down U.S. soldiers during the Iraq War.

That's the claim Beck has been pushing when confronted with questions about the right-wing hate that's been flooding the airwaves and what connection it has with the rise in fright, domestic attack from the right. According to Beck, his hands are clean and that it's not fair to blame a pundit when somebody does something nutty and violent.

And to prove his point, he insists it would be unfair to blame Olbermann or Rich for the recent murder of an Army recruiter in Arkansas. It wouldn't be fair, says Beck, even though Olbermann and Rich have attacked members of the U.S. military. Even though they have created a dangerous environment for soldiers.

Or so Beck claimed:

Keith Olbermann has railed against recruiters. Keith Olbermann has railed against the baby killers that our U.S. soldiers are.

But has he? And has Times columnist Frank Rich "talked about how bad our soldiers are" as Beck now insists? Note, not the war planners, commanders or politicians who launched the war. Beck clearly claims that Rich has bad-mouthed our soldiers. A lot.

To date though, neither Beck, nor anybody else on the right pushing this false moral equivalency claim, can point to any quotes from high-profile media liberals who have attacked, demonized and dehumanized military recruiters or soldiers the way Bill O'Reilly, for instance, attacked, demonized and dehumanized abortion provider Dr. George Tiller before an extremist murdered him.

So if Beck is going to keep making this charge against liberal pundits (he made it again during an online washingtonpost.com chat this week), it might be nice to actually back it up, the way Media Matters, for instance, has cataloged the vigilante-style rhetoric O'Reilly engaged in.

Facts are easy things to document. Maybe that's why Beck's having such a tough time of it.

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    • Author by captfoster2 (June 18, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      It begins to become more abundantly clear why Keith Olbermann keeps referring to Glen Beck.... as Henry Hill.

      I wonder if Glen or any right-winger realize just how lucky they all are that they live in America and not China or Saudi Arabia??

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (June 19, 2009 2:21 am ET)
           
        I think it's Harold Hill-- but it's a reference I can't understand, because HH is actually a good guy, as it turns out in the musical. So I'm not sure what KO is talking about with this comparison. It's pretty empty headed.
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        • Author by womzilla (June 19, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
             
          Harold Hill was a con man and a swindler. He ends up reformed by love, but that's not where he spends most of the play. And it hasn't happened to Glen Beck yet.

          I like the idea of calling Beck "Henry Hill", though--he's the near-sociopathic protagonist of <i>Wise Guy</i>/<i>Goodfellas</i>, who only looks decent by comparison to his criminal compatriots.
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          • Author by JamesCraven8209 (June 20, 2009 10:41 am ET)
               
            I was surprised Keith didn't name the Worst Person in the World over those comments Harold Hill's buttocks made...
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (June 18, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
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      If right wing talkers had to back up their assertions with facts they'd be out of business.
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    • Author by seeryer (June 18, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
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      He doesn't have to back up his claims about anyhting else. Why should his claims about these two be any different. The guy is a liar. But "media personalities" like him do not look at it that way. They are just pandering for ratings so that makes it OK.
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    • Author by nerzog (June 18, 2009 3:52 pm ET)
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      Beck is already on record that he doesn't fact-check.
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 18, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
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      No, I don't think that he CAN back up his assertions. He just said it, because Keith is a liberal, so there is no way that he can support soldiers and the military.
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      • Author by wookie (June 18, 2009 4:41 pm ET)
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        That's it. You would think someone on the right would ask why MMFA/Olbermann/Jon Stewart etc have clips to point out their opponents flaws while Beck/Fox don't.
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    • Author by sbreader (June 18, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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      The word "back" is missing from the headline.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (June 18, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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        I think they were being punny, using Beck's last name in lieu of the word 'back'.
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    • Author by rkcomments (June 18, 2009 6:38 pm ET)
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      I'm amazed that there are people who actually listen to, and believe, nonsense that comes out the mouths of the Becks, Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world. How can people be so gullible and idiotic.
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    • Author by LuvLuLu (June 18, 2009 10:22 pm ET)
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      Bill O'Reilly went off again tonight, trying, and failing, to defend the indefensible - his smears against Dr Tiller.
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