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June 22, 2009 5:21 pm ET by Jamison Foser

Newsbusters complains that the New York Times didn't report the fact that journalist David Rohde was held by the Taliban, even though it did disclose government torture:

In their watchdog role of keeping the public informed, the New York Times has over the years disclosed government secrets regarding anti-terrorism tactics, overseas prisons, interrogation tactics, and military tactics, that critics contend have harmed the effectiveness of the programs and put America and our military at greater risk.

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So when Times journalist David Rohde was captured by the Taliban and held for seven months, the Times was going to report that, right? After all, doesn't the public have a right to know about the threats they may face while traveling in Afghanistan?

Yeah, because getting kidnapped is exactly the same as torturing people and conducting warrantless spying on American citizens.

Seriously, that's what Newsbusters is saying: Because the New York Times reported that the Bush administration was probably violating the law, the Constitution, the Geneva Conventions, and basic human decency, the Times was obligated to report that the Taliban was holding Rohde, even if it may have jeopardized Rohde's life.

That is lunacy, though the blatant disregard it shows for Rohde's life probably shouldn't be surprising coming from people who are, after all, defending torture.

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    • Author by nerzog (June 22, 2009 6:42 pm ET)
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      Conservatives, generally speaking, suck at analogies. It's probably because analogous thinking involves shades of gray... black and white thinking doesn't lend itself to such cognitive gymnastics as formulating a plausible analogy.
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      • Author by spooky3 (June 23, 2009 5:47 am ET)
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        Nerzog, I think you give them too much credit. They certainly do have trouble with shades of gray. However, in most of the cases of bad conservative analogies, I think that the problem is that they want a certain outcome, obtained dishonestly if necessary. They create an "analogy" that distorts the situation in the hope that you won't see reality, which doesn't favor their side, clearly.
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    • Author by breno3414301 (June 22, 2009 7:01 pm ET)
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      I see their point. There are SO many people just blithely deciding to travel to Afghanistan these days! Why, just the other day my mailman was telling me of his plans to visit Afghanistan because to him it sounded like it was "just a real nice place." Then today he seemed kind of down and said he'd heard about a journalist being captured there and didn't think he oughtta go there now.

      Now he thinks that there Darfur place he keeps hearing about on tv might be a real good place to visit.
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      • Author by magnolialover (June 23, 2009 7:44 am ET)
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        That's what is funny to me about this story. They say, I'd like to know if I'm traveling to Afghanistan about potential danger to my life.

        First of all, if you're traveling to Afghanistan, if you don't realize it's probably one of the most dangerous places on the face of the Earth at this point in time, you're an idiot.

        Second, who is traveling to Afgahnistan? Is there some tourist destination that I don't know of?

        Third, the only people really traveling there are our brave soldiers, and some reporters, and the reporters no doubt get security briefings from the State Department, and probably from their own security teams before leaving.

        How would reporting the kidnapping of their reporter be for the public good? It wouldn't be.

        How is exposing warrantless wiretapping good for the public? It is, because it shows how willfully disregarding our previous administration was as pertains to the RIGHTS we have as American citizens.

        It's not surprising to me that these guys don't see the difference.
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    • Author by neon desert (June 22, 2009 8:53 pm ET)
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      The idea that this firestorm of a story would occur to both Beck and Newsbusters simultaneously is so unlikely, so out of the realm of mathematically derived possibility, that it suggests that what we're witnessing here... hold on to your hats... is the historical melding of superhuman minds over a large geologic span, THEREBY CREATING ONE SINGLE GODLIKE INTELLECT WITH THE POWER TO RULE THE UNIVERSE! AND EVEN THE INTERNETS, TOO!!!

      I know, I can hardly believe it myself. But what other conclusion could one reach?
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