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How the media invented the Obama/Gates controversy

July 24, 2009 1:42 pm ET by Jamison Foser

Since Wednesday...

Nexis hits for "Obama and Henry Louis Gates": 363

Nexis hits for "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that": 10

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    • Author by truthseeker77 (July 24, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      There was an insinuation we shouldn't ignore. Immediately after pleading the fifth, Obama spoke about how minorities had been discriminated against in this type of situations in the past. That's an insinuation that clearly shows Obama thought it was likely that racial profiling occurred in this case.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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        This may be a classic case of racial profiling.

        Would the neighbor have even called the police had Gates been white? Would the police have arrested a rich white man for becoming agitated?

        We'll never know, of course, but it's not out of the question that this falls into the sphere of racial profiling.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
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          "Profiling" might not be the right word, exactly, but race definitely plays a factor, even assuming the cop himself is not a racist.
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        • Author by DixieRose (July 24, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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          First, you should know that there had already been a recent break-in attempt at Professor Gates home.

          Sgt. Crowley responded to a possible B&E in progress. When finding the door open & a person inside matching the description (black male) given by the caller, the officer began to question the man & take control of the situation. The officer was doing his duty. The guilty party was Gates, who was disorderly from the start (homeowner or not). Plenty of homeowners (white, black, Asian, Alaskan, Indian, you-name-it) are disorderly when confronted by law enforcement & the parties are subsequently arrested (rightfully so) for disorderly conduct!

          I read the arrest report; from the minute officers arrived, Gates was confrontational (not a smart thing to do when being questioned by an officer of the law). And not only was Gates confrontational, he also began engaging in angry, racist hate speech. As a white woman, God forbid if a black officer shows up at my house & I confront him with anger & race speech. I'd be in handcuffs in no time - charged not only with disorderly conduct, but also a hate crime!

          Obama was wrong to get involved & even more wrong to use the word "stupid" in describing the actions by Cambridge Police Department. The only mistake I see by the Department is dropping the charges. Was the man disorderly (the crime he was arrested for)? Yes! So why drop the charges?

          Shame on Professor Gates & shame on the President. And shame on hateful people hell-bent on crying racism when there is none.

          BTW, Sgt. James Crowley, the arresting officer in the Gates case, has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming. The course, called "Racial Profiling," teaches about different cultures & how you don't want to single people out because of their ethnic background or the culture they come from," Fleming said.
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          • Author by casyw (July 24, 2009 10:38 pm ET)
               
            To me the heart of the issue is, since 9/11 we as citizens have lost are rights. Now it is against the law to argue with a police officer--they are no longer peace officers and public servants we answer to them. If Mr. Gates is upset and feels he may be single out because of race, he should not be angry or complain or you may end up in jail. I wonder what the punishment should be in this new era for being uppity enough to be angry in you own house. As you can tell from the news conference the charge of disorderly conduct is pretty nebulous, and he was not waking people up in the middle of the afternoon.
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          • Author by pooker156 (July 24, 2009 11:23 pm ET)
               
            The arrest report you mentioned is the arrest report written by Officer Crowley, hardly someone who we would consider impartial in the matter. Anyone who cries ignorance about the systemic racism that exists in the police force is either ignorant or a liar. The fact this incident still elicits passionate responses is proof enough of how far this country still needs to go to overcome its racist white supremacist past. It took many years, after all, for Americans to come to grips with the fact lynching was wrong and it wasn't until 1975 that the practice stopped. Hopefully, it will not take that long for people, especially the police department, to overcome its institutional racism.
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          • Author by LarryE (July 25, 2009 1:21 am ET)
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            I read the arrest report

            The fact that you apparently determined what you think is the unvarnished truth of the matter by reading the arrest report reveals your own bias on the matter, that of embracing the "official" story without qualification.

            What is undisputed is that Gates was in his own home, that he produced ID to prove he was in his own home, and it was after that he was arrested.

            My question is, once Gates produced ID, why was the cop still there? Faced with a visibly and understandably angry homeowner, why didn't the cop simply say "Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding, Mr. Gates" and leave? Whatever "confrontation" occurred at that point was at least as much the cop's fault, in fact more so because as the cop, he was supposed to be the one trained in self-control.

            So what did happen? I expect Gates did mouth off some - an "offense" which former DC Deputy Chief of Police Robert Klotz calls "contempt of cop," of being insufficiently respectful and obedient. Being busted on some spectacularly subjective charge like disorderly conduct is the frequent result.

            So why was the charge dropped, you ask? Because that's what usually happens in such cases. The cops don't want to pursue this, they just want to punish you for being insufficiently obsequious and they figure a night in jail is enough for that. They have proved their power over you and that was the point all along. It's not about safety or order - it's about ego.

            Which brings up one other thing, your statement "not a smart thing to do when being questioned by an officer of the law." We hear such advice often enough. But why should that be? Why should someone legally inside their own home be afraid to argue with a cop? Are we to assume that cops will abuse their authority? Are we to conduct ourselves on the basis that we have to be always afraid of saying the wrong thing, of having the wrong "attitude," afraid of the consequences of challenging authority even when we are in the right?

            Just what kind of society do we want to live in?
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (July 25, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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              I read the arrest report

              It's incredible the number of authoritarians (i.e. non-critical thinkers) treat this arrest report like its the gospel handed down from God him/herself.
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              • Author by dwarf_nebula (July 25, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
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                After reading up on this story my gut tells me that this is more a case about elitism than racism. As an Obama supporter I am embarrassed by the way he handled this situation.

                After reading about the officer's track record and hearing comments of those individuals, both black and white, who have worked with him, I get the impression that he possessed a good understanding of the historical difficulties with race in this country. He taught a class in racial profiling.

                It appears to me that the Professor let his passion get in the way of common sense. As an educated individual he should have been aware of the inherent danger that all peace officers face when responding to any call. Had he acted calmly it is likely that this incident would have ended unremarkably.

                Instead, it appears that he acted like a privileged child knowing that, as an esteemed professor and friend of Mr. Obama, he could run his mouth and have the last word.

                IMO, he owes both the Police Officer and Mr. Obama an apology.
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (July 25, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
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                  Yet another example of an authoritarian non-critical thinker:

                  Had he acted calmly it is likely that this incident would have ended unremarkably.

                  Gates is 60 YEARS OLD and walks with a cane. He didn't act like a "privileged child". HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOME.

                  The "peace officer", as you call him, IS THE PROFESSIONAL, not Gates.

                  The charges were DROPPED. The "peace officer" was WRONG. Gates was arrested simply because the "uppity" black man had the gall to mouth off to the white cop.
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                  • Author by dwarf_nebula (July 25, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
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                    Yes, but a non-critical thinker with a Ph.D in human behavior thank you.

                    I have much experience with the ugliness of racism as well as a person who works for the Dept. of Corrections. While I understand that race remains a major problem I also understand that officers place their lives at risk every time they respond to a call no matter how trivial the matter might appear. There is simply no room for anyone of any color to be "uppity" and have the "gall to mouth off" as you say Gates did when dealing with peace officers.

                    Furthermore, it is my experience that people who teach race relations of any kind, as is the case with Mr. Gates, tend to view neutral events through a racial lens to a much greater extent than do others. Sorry, but your non-critical views and criticisms don't fly with me.
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                    • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 11:26 pm ET)
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                      If they were being peace officers, they would have been pro enough to keep the situation peaceful, No? Who's next, the criminal element of Cornel West or Maya Angelou? Ha!
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                • Author by livefreest (July 27, 2009 6:40 am ET)
                     
                  your gut tells you, huh?
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              • Author by kydem09 (July 25, 2009 10:15 pm ET)
                   
                Or that people take Gates' word as the gospel.
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          • Author by snoopy (July 25, 2009 1:36 am ET)
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            I read the police report too, and surprisingly, you seem to have found more comments about Gate's words than actually are written in the report. And Obama didn't "get involved", he was asked to comment on it.

            BTW, love how you just keep cutting and pasting your reverse racist screed from thread to thread. Assuming Gates was being an a-hole, if being an a-hole in your own house is a crime, the right wing of the republican party would all be doing 10 to 20 years.
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          • Author by albertsenj (July 25, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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            Referring only to the CONS loudly-professed love of law enforcement, and not to this specific case; aren't these lawmen cut from the same cloth as the 'jackbooted thugs' the CONS have repeatedly railed against??
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 25, 2009 8:17 pm ET)
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            Sgt. Crowley responded to a possible B&E in progress. When finding the door open & a person inside matching the description (black male) given by the caller, the officer began to question the man & take control of the situation


            At least get the facts straight! The neighbor called in TWO Black men with backpacks!

            Professor Gates is 59 years old, 5'7", 150 pounds AND must use a can due to hip replacement surgery!

            I read the arrest report; from the minute officers arrived, Gates was confrontational (not a smart thing to do when being questioned by an officer of the law). And not only was Gates confrontational, he also began engaging in angry, racist hate speech.


            And of course, you didn't bother to read Professor Gates side of the story. Why bother, when a White police officer tell you something about a Black man, it must be the truth! </sarcasm>

            BTW, Sgt. James Crowley, the arresting officer in the Gates case, has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming. The course, called "Racial Profiling," teaches about different cultures & how you don't want to single people out because of their ethnic background or the culture they come from," Fleming said.


            I always love when folks used the "he taught racial profiling" and "he was appointed by a Black cop". As if THAT is some supporting factor in favor of Crowley. Maybe you should have added "there were two Black cops standing up for Crowley" as well.

            15 Black chickens, 15 Black gooses and 15 Black current and former police officers could have stood up for Crowley. And NOTHING would have changed the fact that Crowley should NOT have arrested Professor Gates.

            In fact, in Crowley's police report, (p.2 paragraph 1) he says the following: “While I was lead to believe that Gates was lawfully in the residence. . . I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior Gates exhibited toward me.”

            So Crowley thought that Professor Gates was in HIS OWN home and yet he still arrested him?

            And arrested him for what? Professor Gates had no weapons, he did not strike anyone and he wasn't throwing anything. Professor Gates was trash talking.

            Arrested for trash talking in HIS OWN home.

            And by the way, Crowley IS suppose to be an expert in racial profiling, diversity training, and how to work through these types of situations. HE should have expected the response he got from Gates as a black man who was in his own home and was being wrongly questioned by the police under suspicion of breaking and entering.

            The only mistake I see by the Department is dropping the charges. Was the man disorderly (the crime he was arrested for)? Yes! So why drop the charges?


            Because the "charges" were a joke!

            The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts held that the First Amendment
            prevents application of the disorderly conduct law to language and expressive conduct, even when it is offensive and abusive. The one exception would be language that falls outside the protection of the First Amendment, "fighting words which by their very utterance tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."

            Jury instructions used by the Massachusetts courts spell out three elements that must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt to convict someone of disorderly conduct:

            1. The defendant engaged in fighting or threatening, or engaged in violent or tumultuous behavior, or created a hazardous or physically offensive condition by an act that served no legitimate purpose.

            2. The defendant’s actions were reasonably likely to affect the public.

            3. The defendant either intended to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly created a risk of public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm.

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            • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
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              Pearl

              As usual, you added a lot of fluff and BS, while at the same time not addressing a single issue of substance. Gates was wrong, acted like an idiot, and got arrested like he should have. It was not the decision of the police to drop the charges.

              Charges are dropped against guilty people all the time, as happened here. The DA has full authority to drop charges, and did so in this case. Just because they were dropped does not mean he was not guilty. He was.

              Gates is simply playing the victim role, and is already planning his PBS special. But I am sure you will watch it with bated breath Pearl. Do you think the documentary will include his reference to the officers mother?

              Join us all in 2009 Pearl. You might actually like it here
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              • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 12:49 am ET)
                   
                When they go to court.Charges were dropped before ccourt apearance.
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 26, 2009 4:06 am ET)
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                As usual, you added a lot of fluff and BS, while at the same time not addressing a single issue of substance.


                YOU still can't read? Seriously, they have classes for that.

                Charges are dropped against guilty people all the time, as happened here. The DA has full authority to drop charges, and did so in this case. Just because they were dropped does not mean he was not guilty. He was.



                FYI

                Cambridge and the police department said they made the recommendation to the Middlesex County district attorney and the district attorney's office "has agreed to enter a nolle prosequi in this matter," meaning that it will not be pursued.

                And, I'm sorry to inform you that Jim Crow laws are gone. Here in America people are innocent UNTIL PROVEN guilty. And Professor was not only innocent, the POLICE recommended that NO charges be filed because it's not against the law to talk trash or insult a police officer.

                In fact if you try really, really hard you might be able to read the same law that the Cambridge police department read, when dropping the charges.

                Give it a try and good luck!

                The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts held that the First Amendment prevents application of the disorderly conduct law to language and expressive conduct, even when it is offensive and abusive.
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              • Author by mary59 (July 26, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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                Her post was fluff? Wow. Project much?
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:03 am ET)
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          Gates said himself he DOESN'T blame his neighbor. How clear does it have to be? Now to be fair I have not heard her (the neighbor) side of the story. You may have a point if she is shown to be a less than credible witness, but I doubt it since she was standing outside when Gates was arrested.
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        • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 25, 2009 11:55 am ET)
             
          My question is why did a "neighbor" call, wouldn't one think the neighbor knew who was living there ?
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          • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:44 pm ET)
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            Sounds like Gates is a real friendly guy, and well know to his neighbors.
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            • Author by Why_Not_Me (July 26, 2009 5:45 pm ET)
                 
              Yeah, I'm sure it's completely beyond the realm of possibility that the neighbor isn't the recluse.
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              • Author by RWNJ (July 27, 2009 8:45 am ET)
                   
                Was Gates supposed to be out of town? (Possibly overseas?) Not sure, but I think that was something I heard along the way.
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      • Author by MM_JF (July 24, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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        "what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately"

        Separate and apart from. Meanwhile, the media ignores Obama's direct statement that he does not know if race played a role.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:11 am ET)
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          Well Barry is going a long way to make amends now "separate and apart" is now "linked and part" of this.

          Obama regrets remarks

          Obama calls Sgt. Crowley and says he is good man

          Well at least the rookie prez is starting to get it. Tamp this spark out before it becomes a fire. Poor choice of words to start with, even the prez says that. He's learning. Slowly, but learning.
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 25, 2009 10:25 am ET)
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            President Obama meant what he said.He just wish he had used different words to say it .As for Sgt Crowley good people mess up sometimes.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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        And... you don't think race played any factor here?

        You've never lived in Boston I guess.
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        • Author by pongotwistleton (July 24, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
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          Whether or not you think the cop acted "stupidly," can you point to a single fact indicating that his actions were at all based on the race of the professor? You have no clue regarding this guy's racial views, and have no clue regarding whether he has a history of profiling, yet you can't wait to pull the race card. You're pathetic.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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            I think you misunderstand me. The racial factor may have nothing to do with the cop at all. It may all be Gates. It may just be HIS perception of the situation that cause him some racially motivated consternation. All the same the cop had to be aware of what was going on in the mind of the "suspect" and once it was clear that there was no crime, a simple apology was in order. All I'm saying is that if Gates was white this wouldn't have happned. BOTH men would likely have acted differently.

            Now... as to my "Boston" comment? I'm FROM Boston. And despite the con's portrayal of Massachestts (and esp CAMBRIDGE) as some kind of liberal Mecca, I happen to know better, at least as it pertains to race relations in that city. My grandfather was a cop there, and my cousin (a cop there now) STILL hears stories about him. It's not a coincidence that the Red Sox were the last MLB team to integrate, or that the Celtics won the '86 championship with an almost all-white team. It's polite. People aren't open about it like they sometimes are down south, but it's a city with a LOT of racial tension throughout it's history.

            Do I think the cop was a racist? No, I don't; not consiously anyway. No more than you or I might be or the next door neighbor was. But it still plays a factor. You can't expect me to believe that this would have played out exactly the same way if Gates was white, or for that matter is the officer was black.
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:13 am ET)
                 
              or that the Celtics won the '86 championship with an almost all-white team


              Don't forget they had a black coach! :)

              Point taken though.
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 1:05 am ET)
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            Yes,the police did not leave when residence was verified.Aparently regular patrol officers were the first on the seen.The professor wanted to talk to some one with more authority.This puts the sargent in it.Someone with authority and training dealing with situations like this.The sargent's training and authority put the decision in his hand to diffuse the situation,or teach the upity professor a lesson.He chose the later
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        • Author by WorldViewer (July 24, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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          To be honest, I haven't seen anything in this case YET that shows race playing any factor. YET. It doesn't seem to me that it did, but if contrary evidence should arise, I'm flexible on the matter.

          NERZOG earlier asked if the neighbor would "have even called the police had Gates been white?" I have no idea, since I know nothing about the woman. However, given the available facts of the case, and assuming (I do) that when she called the police the woman didn't recognize Gates, I HOPE she would have called the police no matter what race the person appeared to be. Obviously, this is a case of confusion, but I'd like to think I have responsible enough neighbors to call the police if they saw two men whom they didn't recognize appearing to be trying to force their way through my front door.

          No one has presented any evidence that the white officer was A) racist or even B) had any history of behaving in a racially-influenced manner. In fact, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that it turns out this officer was actually an expert in profiling. I believe that he was actually an instructor of the sensitivity or diversity course in the area meant specifically to prevent racial profiling. Furthermore, his fellow officers of all colors have come out to support him. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but was there not a second officer on the scene, a black officer, who has gone on record that he felt the arrest was 100% justified?

          It's an unfortunate event no matter how you look at it. That doesn't mean, however, that it should be seen through the prism of all other unfortunate events, all too common, that do involve racism or racially-motivated uneven treatment.
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          • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
               
            You're right, of course, but we also cannot rule it out yet.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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            Although I am critical of Crowley myself, I do not believ him to be a racist. But race plays a factor - in evryone's behavior including GATES'. Would he have acted the same way* if the officer was black? Prob not. Does that make him a racist? No.

            But even if Crowley's actions and motivations were themselves colorblind, that in and of itself is still a problem: he needs to realize what this looks like to Gates! And once it's determined that this is a misunderstanding, the situation needs to be difused. It's not Crowley's fault, so he shouldn't have taken it personally, even if Gates did.

            *The accounts given by Gates and Crowley are so radically different in every detail, that I'm sure that neither or them is really accurate. Each man MIGHT be being honest in describing their PERCEPTION of what happened, but I don't really think either account accurately relfects any objective truth or facts.
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 12:21 am ET)
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            Here is an interview with Gates that explains his side of the story.
            http://www.theroot.com/views/skip-gates-speaks?page=0,0

            It needs to be considered that when the police have an encounter with black men, innocent men (sometimes) end up being shot and killed. Knowing that history, I think Professor Gates had a right to be 1. wary 2. ask for the guy's badge number 3. not be arrested because he was assertive in wanting the guy's badge number.

            I actually don't necessarily think the popo were doing racial profiling, consciously anyway. But anybody who is in the business of training officers in the area of sensitivity training should have been able to handle the situation without arresting a guy and taking him down to the popo station and having him humiliated by going through a finger printing, mug shot, etc..

            A man who has complied with the ID requirement and been shown to live at that address should have been dealt with professionally enough that he didn't feel threatened. I mean there were a whole bunch of police cars outside. If I was him, I'd be fearful of the cops too.

            And maybe both men overreacted. But it's the popo's job to be in professional mode. And as far as I know, you are allowed to ask for the policeman's badge number, etc..I've done it before. The officer complied. I think they have to, but this one doesn't seem to have felt that he needed to.


            And I admit to not having so much respect for police. They are just people after all, not gods. And they often are paranoid, have adrenaline pumping and overreact. It's been seen too many times to be denied.

            Bottom line. Gates should have never been arrested. That is a travesty.
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 2:17 am ET)
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              I'd like to clarify that when I said "he complied" above, I was talking about my siutation, not Professor Gates'. My cop did give me his officer/badge number. And according to Gates, this cop refused to do so. I wonder why that is, it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
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            • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:48 pm ET)
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              It also needs to be understood that when the police respond to calls, they sometimes get shot and killed. Thats why officers take control of a scene, and thats why he wanted the ID.

              All the officer knew when he arrived was that a report was called in about two people breaking into a house. Gates could have been a burglar. Gates could have been a hostage. The officer knows NONE of that when he arrives at the scene. Thats why he asked Gates if he was alone in the house.

              How did Gates respond. Not with a thank you, but I lost my keys, here is my ID. He responds with racial attacks and attacks on his mother. And this is a Harvard Professor???

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              • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 9:47 pm ET)
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                Have you read the interview I posted regarding Gates' side of the story? I bet not. For one, he didn't lose his keys. He used them to enter the house from the back, as the front door was jammed.

                And he was most likely questioned about others being in the house in case Gates was a spousal abuser. However the officer should have made that known to Gates and he apparently didn't.

                Futher, it is lawful and reasonable to ask an officer for his ID and badge number. The officer didn't comply as he should have.

                And if the officer was indeed such an expert and had training in racial sensitivity as has been reported, he should have understood that this man felt threatened. It is his PROFESSIONAL duty to make sure that Gates understood what was being asked of him and why.

                The fact that this devolved into a situation where Gates was arrested and taken down to the police station gives an example of less than stellar police behavior. There were a lot more of them than Prof. Gates. They could have handled the situation more professionally IMO.

                And there is no doubt that black men do get killed in encounters with police through NO fault of their own. Whether this was racial or not, I can't say. But I do have the opinion that it was handled badly....maybe stupidly.

                And if you care to read other's account here, there is a reasonable basis for other's opinions besides yours, which you are entitled to. But don't come here with half facts and suppositions that can not be substantiated when we don't know all the details.
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                • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 9:57 pm ET)
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                  Oh, another fact you got wrong. Gates did provide ID.
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                  • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 10:14 pm ET)
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                    I read his version. Now you read the report. In the officers report he says he tried to give Gates his name and badge number 3 times. For some one who is accusing me of half truths, you are leaving a lot out yourself.

                    You should also note that Gates says in his version that he did not comply at first when asked for his ID. I see you left that part out as well.

                    The fact that Gates was arrested and taken to the station was a result of his own behavior. You also seem to leave out that Obama says Gates over reacted as well. Seems your version of the "facts" has many gaps.
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                    • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 10:23 pm ET)
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                      Since I posted Gate's interview there are some things I didn't need to reiterate. And I'll reread where Gates said he didn't give his ID, I didn't see that. He did say he wouldn't step outside. And that was a good decision on his part. Perhaps you're confused by the two.

                      And I did say that it was MY opinion that BOTH men perhaps overreacted. I guess you didn't read my post bery thoroughly. I never mentioned Obama, btw. Swing and miss there.
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                      • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 11:52 pm ET)
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                        Julia

                        I read one Gates interview, where he says he refused to step outside when asked. There are several interviews out now, and I dont see where it says he refused to give ID. I will see if I can find that part. Perhaps I did confuse the two.
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                      • Author by pointofview (July 26, 2009 12:14 am ET)
                           
                        This Link does not answer the question about the ID, because the cop says he did not give it, and gates says he did, but it is an interesting comparison of the two stories none the less.

                        http://gawker.com/5321278/no-henry-louis-gates-is-not-a-railer-a-brawler-or-a-common-street-walker
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              • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 12:41 am ET)
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                Have you seen any evidence the police thought there life was in danger.I think you are speaking more from your heart,than an objective view.As you so often claim to be doing.Leave the bs off.And if you use it,put a disclaimer.Things like this have happen but no evidence of it in this case or that case.Just speaking from an OBJECTIVE POINT OF VIEW
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          • Author by snoopy (July 25, 2009 1:47 am ET)
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            What concerns me most is the officer teaches racial diversity classes to the rest of the department. I find it amazing that he couldn't recall what he teaches when in a clutch. He basically resorted to the "arrest them all, let the chief sort them out" mentality. That doesn't make him an outstanding officer in my opinion, I've seen better.
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 2:10 am ET)
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              I do think it's telling that when some here argue against Gates, they don't seem to have heard HIS side of the story. But they're more than willing to read the police report and come to the conclusion that it's gospel.

              And I have to say I agree that when in the clutch, this officer either didn't remember his training (or his teaching). Or he wasn't experienced in the actual techniques.

              I mean why did this devolve into a situation where a highly respected and high profile man like Gates gets driven down to the police station and was made to go through the humiliation he did.

              The more I contemplate this situation, the madder I get.
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:20 am ET)
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              He didn't do anything in the clutch except what a police officer is supposed to do. Take control of the situation that evidence shows was quickly spiraling out of hand due to Gates belligerence.

              Even a black officer on the scene described it that way.

              Black Officer on scene says Gates acted strangely

              I know you see racism around every corner and under every bed sheet, but the facts are clear here. Gates was acting in a manner that escalated the situation to an arrest.

              Case closed your honor. Even Barry is backing off his stance. Here's a hint for you die hards...when our president says he was off base, it's time to stand down. Otherwise you look like a zealot...oh wait!
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              • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 10:39 am ET)
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                Was that same officefr IN the house? Not that I've read.

                And guess what? Barry isn't the president's name. And he is a diplomatic personality, so if he wants to deescalate this situation, I say fine. But the facts of the case need to be looked at nonetheless. If the police can't do their job in a manner that doesn't feel threatening to a person, then they need MORE training. Regardless if this was racial or not.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (July 25, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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                Gates was acting in a manner that escalated the situation to an arrest.

                So says the all-knowing, all-powerful, "all-factual" police report.

                Gates had every right to know that officer's name/badge #. After all, the officer was in HIS HOUSE investigating a crime that DIDN'T OCCUR.
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 25, 2009 8:37 pm ET)
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                I know you see racism around every corner and under every bed sheet, but the facts are clear here. Gates was acting in a manner that escalated the situation to an arrest.


                There is a valid reason that the Cambridge decided to drop the charges against Professor Gates...THEY WOULD LOSE!

                The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts held that the First Amendment prevents application of the disorderly conduct law to language and expressive conduct, even when it is offensive and abusive. The one exception would be language that falls outside the protection of the First Amendment, "fighting words which by their very utterance tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."

                Which leads back to the "racial profiling/diversity" expert, Officer Crowley, who could not handle the perfect case of "racial profiling/diversity" and arrested Professor Gates on charges that would never be filed.

                Case closed your honor. Even Barry is backing off his stance. Here's a hint for you die hards...when our president says he was off base, it's time to stand down. Otherwise you look like a zealot...oh wait!


                President Obama said he used a poor choice of words, NOT that he changed his original opinion that the arrest of Professor Gates was wrong!
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                • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:52 pm ET)
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                  I think most would agree that insulting his mother was meant to provoke, and falls into the category of disorderly conduct.

                  Had the officer responded and said I was already with your mother out back you guys would be demanding his job. The liberal double standard is amazing here.
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                  • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 9:51 pm ET)
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                    Your Mamma.....oooh, the men with guns are so thin skinned they can't take a little trash talk if that's even what went on. Get real, dude.
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                  • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (July 26, 2009 4:20 am ET)
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                    POV, we're talking about the LAW, not childish taunts!

                    It is NOT against the law to insult a police officers mother, PERIOD!!

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                • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 26, 2009 8:36 am ET)
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                  The cop wasn't profiling. The NEIGHBOR was! Good grief. You would sit on the deck of the Titanic as it's sinking and say it's just a little damage!

                  Barry backed off. So should you.
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              • Author by snoopy (July 25, 2009 10:01 pm ET)
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                Nah, that is a wrong assumption. I only see racism where right wingers gather. But here's something for you to chew on:

                In several cases, the courts in Massachusetts have considered whether a person is guilty of disorderly conduct for verbally abusing a police officer. In Commonwealth v. Lopiano, a 2004 decision, an appeals court held it was not disorderly conduct for a person who angrily yelled at an officer that his civil rights were being violated. In Commonwealth v. Mallahan, a decision rendered last year, an appeals court held that a person who launched into an angry, profanity-laced tirade against a police officer in front of spectators could not be convicted of disorderly conduct.

                So Massachusetts law clearly provides that Gates did not commit disorderly conduct.


                So the police rightly dropped charges because the officer in question acted inappropriately. Turns out that you're wrong about disorderly conduct. Another swing and miss for T-Bone.

                So yes, case closed, and as our esteemed president mentioned the other day, this right wing distraction is keeping the topic of health care discussion supressed. He rightly changed the direction back, and as he noted, he thinks both the officer and gates need to chill out. See, he never apologized for what he meant, just in the choice of words used to say it. Poor T-Bone, seems nothing goes your way, does it?

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      • Author by The_Cat (July 24, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
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        Yes, truthseeker77, President Obama did speak, 'separate and apart from this incident' about the role race has played in the past. Because the reporter -asked- him specifically about race.

        Call in an insinuation all you like, the President was very careful to separate his comments on racism and law enforcement, and his opinion about the Gates arrest. Let's get on with something that is actually important, like health care, or the economy.

        You are falling for an invented controversy.
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      • Author by newzhound (July 24, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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        First of all, how can Prof. Gates be disturbing the peace in his own home? That's just nuts. There is no law that anyone has to be respectful to a cop.

        It might be a good diea, but it ain't the law.

        If it was, the charges would not have been dropped.

        Second - from Leah Garchik's column in the San Francisco Chronicle (July 22, 2009):

        "A member of the cast of 'Porgy and Bess' stayed with a Pacific Heights friend during the opera's run here. One night when the singer, an African American, was parking, a local woman emerged from her house, approached her and demanded to know why she was there. She was visiting her 'mother,' the singer joked, employing the term she and her pal jokingly use. 'I'm her houseguest.'

        "The next night, when the singer lingered in her car making a phone call, the woman apparently summoned police, who drove up and asked what she was doing there. When she went inside and reported this to her host, the singer burst into tears. Friends and other neighbors are mortified."

        This goes on in America every day.
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      • Author by pointofview (July 24, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
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        Obama called the officer today, and called him am outstanding officer. At least now there are some attempts to give this cop his well earned reputation back!!
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:24 am ET)
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          I see you got three "downers" POV...

          I guess the race baiters want to drag this one out and show their true colors. They just knew they hand a winning hand...till Barry folded!
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 25, 2009 10:19 am ET)
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            Race baiters ,show their true colors racist.You seem to be pretty adept at using those words.I see people posting there opinions and often giving supporting information why they feel so.This is an opinion page.You have every right to feel however you do.Reading your post looking for rhyme,reason,understanding where you coming from.You post from your heart first.Then you post form the facts that match what is in your heart.The problem and the solution to race relations in the USA is what is in your heart
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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              Can't quite follow you there bik, but I'll chalk it up to no coffee (like myself) and lack of an edit button.

              I guess you threw the fourth downer on the fact that Barry called Sgt. Crowley. Just can't follow his lead can you. That was my point from the heart!
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    • Author by scubcap647 (July 24, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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      The distrubing thing about all this business is how many in the media (especially the conservative media) have harped on this issue for the last couple of days now. It was a situation the president commented on for a few seconds and that was it. Now media figures are giving us two hour dissertations on the racial tones behind the word "stupidly".
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      • Author by nerzog (July 24, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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        Because they're desperate for an issue, ANY issue, with which to beat up Obama. It has nothing to do with their "undying love" for cops.

        Wait until the next time a cop shoots one of those loony survivalists, and we'll see how much Conservatives love cops.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 24, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
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        And they seem to be focusing more on Obama's comments than on uncovering the facts of the case.

        Hmmmm... I wonder why THAT is?
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:28 am ET)
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          The "facts" have been posted on this forum many times now. The "facts" are being ignored and now the word parsing is starting.

          If you ever want to know when you have a dem corned, just listen for the word parsing.

          Take the presidents lead and stand down. Even Barry knows he stepped in it this time. Unfortunately the usual suspects at MMfA don't know there is excrement on their boots.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (July 25, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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            Here's the MOST important fact: THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED.

            Understand? Because the charges were dropped, there was no cause to arrest Gates in the first place.

            The arrest report was likely trumped up to make the cops look good, in my opinion.

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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 26, 2009 8:40 am ET)
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              The arrest report was likely trumped up to make the cops look good, in my opinion.


              Well you have one little problem with that theory. There were witnesses that can vouch for the cop. Nobody has come forward to support Gates as far as I know.

              The charges were dropped. Good. Still doesn't change the fact that Gates lost control of his emotions and let the situation get the best of him. Seems he was looking for a fight. Never let a chance for a charge of racism pass you by...
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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 27, 2009 10:30 am ET)
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                Gates was excercising his freedom of speech, and the cop was acting within his professional rights and discretion. (And Obama was just giving his candid opinion.) At the end of the day though, neither ends up in a situation which they would have chosen for themselves, had they the foresight to see where it was going. And the same can be said for President Obama.

                IMO - none of the three did anything "wrong." All were within their 'rights,' and all three ended up worse off than they likely planned on. (Which is pretty much the DEFINITION of "stupid".) It's not about one person being right and the other wrong. From a reasonable POV, all three were right, but all three probably wish they had acted differently, even if they won't/can't publicly admit it. You can be "right," do nothing "wrong" and still "lose." Happens all the time.

                Life's just unfair that way.
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      • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:54 pm ET)
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        Thats what happens when the President singles out an officer and a dept and calls them stupid. He says he did not meantit to come across that way, and added to his remarks, but that is why it became a national story.
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    • Author by DixieRose (July 24, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
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      First, you should know that there had already been a recent break-in attempt at Professor Gates home. Sgt. Crowley responded to a possible B&E in progress. When finding the door open & a person inside matching the description given by the caller, the officer began to question the man & take control of the situation. The officer was doing his duty. The guilty party was Gates, who was disorderly from the start (homeowner or not). Plenty of homeowners are disorderly when confronted by law enforcement & the parties are subsequently arrested (rightfully so)!

      I read the arrest report; from the minute officers arrived, Gates was confrontational (not a smart thing to do when being questioned by an officer of the law). And not only was Gates confrontational, he also began engaging in angry, racist hate speech. As a white woman, God forbid if a black officer shows up at my house & I confront him with anger & race speech. I'd be in handcuffs in no time - charged not only with disorderly conduct, but also a hate crime!

      Obama was wrong to get involved & even more wrong to use the word "stupid" in describing the actions by Cambridge Police Department. The only mistake I see by the Department is dropping the charges. Was the man disorderly (the crime he was arrested for)? Yes! So why drop the charges?

      Shame on Professor Gates & shame on the President. And shame on hateful people hell-bent on crying racism when there is none.

      BTW, Sgt. James Crowley, the arresting officer in the Gates case, has taught a class about racial profiling for five years at the Lowell Police Academy after being hand-picked for the job by former police Commissioner Ronny Watson, who is black, said Academy Director Thomas Fleming. The course, called "Racial Profiling," teaches about different cultures & how you don't want to single people out because of their ethnic background or the culture they come from," Fleming said.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (July 25, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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        I read the arrest report; from the minute officers arrived,

        Why do you believe the arrest report? Do you really believe cops don't "massage" these reports to cover their collective a**?

        Yet another authoritarian non-critical thinker.
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        • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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          Yep Fog, you have hate those of us who trust and support the police. We are such simple people, you know, supporting the cops and all
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 9:56 pm ET)
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            It's okay to support the cops. When they deserve it. They do put their lives on the line sometimes. For that they should get respect. But since they have such awesome authority, they always deserve a great level of scrutiny too.

            And dude, I don't give respect based on titular authority. When someone discharges their duty poorly, you don't give automatic respect. You check it out and try to make sure future encounters with the citizenry are handled in a more efficient and equitable manner. That makes everything in society run better.
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            • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 10:16 pm ET)
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              While that is correct, NOTHING has been presented to show the officer here acted wrong in any way, shape, or form.
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              • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 10:29 pm ET)
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                And since you weren't there, there is nothing that supports that the officer did apply his knowledge in a constructive manner. Or that Gates was SO bad that he needed to be arrested. The fact is, we probably won't know all that happened for a while. I like to take the long view.

                The very fact that this man was arrested and taken to the station when he committed no crime and charges were subsequently dropped leads me to more questions, not less.

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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
           
        Mabe you should get a job as a legal advisor,and tell them to reinstate charges,and add a couple more.For sure you would do a better job than the current ones who advised dropping charges..This probably never would have happened using your advice.The professor would have known better than to mouth off at the police. BTW President Obama,Sgt Crowley,and Professor Gates gonna have a beer together.They both may learn something from President Obama about dealing with stressful situations.You may learn something too if you pay attention.
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    • Author by borealis (July 24, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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      Regardless of the reasons or motives, within either the first responder or the citizen in his home, for any escalation of emotions or actions at the scene, once the handcuffs were placed on Gates, he was in the total control of police authority. All decisions from then on were completely at the discretion of police.

      The officers chose to move the cuffs from back to front because of Gates' disability and they suffered no injury from him while they did so. The officers chose to wait for a maintenance worker from Harvard to secure Gates' front door. The officers chose to have a large number of their various brethren hang around instead of letting the area be cleared of the attraction of police cars. The officers chose to allow lookers-on to keep looking (and to keep being "alarmed and surprised" which was the given reason for the arrest).

      During all of that, the officers could have chosen to let the situation calm itself and clear away much of the commotion that created the "alarmed and surprised" people on the sidewalk. The officers did not use their total control to make these choices. Instead, Gates remained in their custody and they took him away.

      They acted "stupidly" and deserve to be called to task for it.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 25, 2009 9:31 am ET)
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        So now the story has shifted from the arrest to how the post arrest was handled?

        You guys are a laugh a minute! Keep them coming...
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        • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 8:56 pm ET)
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          Liberals always change the goal Mr. T, especially when the Pres folds on them.
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 10:07 pm ET)
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            Liberals this, liberals that........talking points don't really work so well in complex situations. Think......! Don't go into automatic "liberals are the problem" mode. I'm betting you don't even know what a liberal is. In fact I don't think people fit into neat little categories and most here probably are a hybrid. Gee if only the world was so neat and prescribed like you'd prefer.
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            • Author by pointofview (July 25, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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              I have yet to see any of the "liberals" here find fault with Gates 1. refusing to produce ID 2. Calling the officer a racist with no supporting evidence 3. Insulting his mother or 4. his rush to profit from a sham documentary.

              So Julia, please, tell me what if anything Gates did wrong here. Show me you can see this from both sides.
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              • Author by juliajayne1 (July 25, 2009 10:37 pm ET)
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                Read above where I said that perhaps Gates AND the officer may have overreacted. Reread some of the other posts and see that many have a very nuanced view of what went on. And also see that the police, while discharging a very difficult duty, are just people and can make mistakes.

                And according to Gates, he did give his ID. And perhaps it was his perception that this had a racial compenent. Perhaps the officer had his own perceptions which are just as human. That's life, dude.

                And Gates didn't say he trash talked. If the police did, that's THEIR VERSION. Titular authority doesn't hold much sway for me. It does for you. We'll have to disagree on that point.

                But thanks all the same for engaging in somewhat civil debate. At least with me...;-)
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              • Author by snoopy (July 25, 2009 11:38 pm ET)
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                I have yet to see any of the "liberals" here find fault with Gates


                That's because you ain't looking too hard. But once again, if being an a-hole in your own house is a crime, rightwingers would be doing 10 to 20 years.
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              • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 6:31 pm ET)
                   
                Maybe they are not like you have a predetermined view of what you view before you have view.
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        • Author by borealis (July 26, 2009 4:34 pm ET)
             
          Tbone, if you are still looking in on this story, here's what I assumed was part of general knowledge: Arrest just means putting a person under your control. An officer may do this because they are waiting for more back-up or until they have completed a search or any number of other reasons. Often the underlying reason is for protection of officers or of the person being placed in control and to let the situation become calm rather than escalating.

          The officer can release the person from arrest if they determine the situation allows for it. This is part of the discretion I was referring to. Placing a person under arrest (control) does not automatically mean a trip to the station or being officially charged.

          So, you are correct. The post arrest is what I found most important because that is the point at which the most important choices could be made.
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    • Author by newzhound (July 24, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
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      I think this whole thing could have been avoided if Prof. Gates had just shown the cop his birth certificate when he asked for it...
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      • Author by borealis (July 24, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
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        Oh, snap!!
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      • Author by RWNJ (July 25, 2009 12:45 am ET)
           
        I disagree -- being a black man, he likely knows criminals who could create forgeries. This would create enough doubt that the fringe of the Birthers would morph into 'Gatesers' and demand to speak with the architect who built the house, the listing and selling real estate agents, and the mortgage company who gave him the loan. Suspecting these future allegations, Gates would have to prepare newspaper announcements showing the property transferring into his name on some date in the past. 'Gatesers' would respond by saying that the house was really built in Kenya and therefore must be British because of a technicality in some law nobody's ever heard of.

        You gots to consider these things before you wave around a birth certificate.
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    • Author by stanlee18048 (July 24, 2009 10:27 pm ET)
         
      Give me a break. The corporate media is trying to drive down President Obama's numbers in order to weaken his ability push through progressive legislation. Corporations run the whole show in this country. They even fund most progressive websites. That's why people are uninformed and their isn't overwhelming support for necessary investments(education,health, energy) and regulations. They turn every corporate sin and Republican sin into a referendum on Obama and why he isn't fixing it. Of course, the minute he tries to fix it, he's a socialist or dictator. I personally feel they have a black whole waiting for them at the end of their lives and they ain't never coming out. They poison kids for profits. I personally see them as cannibals. Did you ever see what IBM, Hewlett Packard and others do to Chinese workers? They treat them worse than pig(farm animals). Go to the National Labor Committee's website and use their search engine.
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    • Author by SMTDL (July 25, 2009 11:51 am ET)
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      I don't know many people that don't at least "empathize" with the police.They have a tough,tough job.The job is made tougher and more dangerous by our almost non-existent control of firearms in this country.Conservatives don't seem to like empathy or controlling firearms!!!!!However it doesn't excuse overzealous policing or brutality which is well documented recently thanks to the availability of video cams,cellphones ,etc..There have been numerous filmed accounts of brutality against blacks and hispanics,but very little involving whites.How many UNARMED white men have been shot by police? There are many unarmed black men that were gunned down with no crime whatsoever having been committed by them. There have been several cases of undercover/non uniformed black policemen being shot by colleagues because they are taken to be the criminal!!! I have never heard of any cases where a white policeman was shot under these circumstances.There must be some cases right given how many white cops there are out there Right? Why is it so much more likely for black men to be victimized in these ways.In fact not just black men..remember the 90 yo grandmother in Atlanta shot dead in her own home.When officers broke down her door in the middle of the night,she thought they were burglars and fired her own gun .It is an awesome power that policemen have been entrusted with by citizens...a power of life and death /total contol of anybody they decide to exercise that power upon.Unfortunately there comes an equally powerful need for accountability when it is used.From the perspective of the black community this just doesn't happen.On the occassions when power is misused it too often is justified ,excused or ignored.In this case Dr.Gates was only arrested but what if he had been shot down in his home because a good samaritan called in a "possible" break in.If he had been 20 -something,black and dressed differently that may have been the result even if everything else was the same!!!
      It doesn't mean that the Gates incident was racially motivated,but when an elderly, somewhat disabled citizen of any color is arrested in his own home by a cop of any color while not having committed any crime to bring the police there,it is not a good outcome!! The police had far more control of this situation than did Dr.Gates.Surely they could have diffused his anger even if it took another policeman to intervene.There was no life or death situation involved. Time could have been taken to ensure that an innocent citizen was properly respected in his own home.I wonder how some taking the police side would see this if their father,grandfather,uncle ,etc was arrested in this way..Uh uh that does require empathy!!! Good Luck!
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    • Author by (July 26, 2009 3:12 am ET)
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      Amazing fact that everyone is overlooking. We all talk of racism and prejudging based on race. Yet we are overlooking the fact that Mr Obama pre-judged this entire incident based on the fact that it was some white guy arresting a black guy. He automatically judged that since it was a white guy arresting a black guy that obviously the white guy must be doing his job "stupidly". Sounds like obama was prejudiced against white people from the onset. Obviously obama "racially profiled" this entire incident. But that is ok because of his race? Maybe he should attend some of the courses that our white police officer teaches on how not to "racially profile".

      Obviously he really was listening to all the indoctrination of his preacher - jeremiah wright. After all he trapes all over the world speaking negatively and with disdain in regards to the United States. Whatever happened to national pride and loving the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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