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MSNBC president calls birtherism "racist"

July 24, 2009 7:05 pm ET by Media Matters staff

From a July 24 post on The New York Times' Media Decoder blog:

The conspiracy theorists who have claimed for more than a year that President Obama is not a U.S. citizen have found receptive ears among some mainstream media figures in recent weeks.

Despite ample evidence to the contrary, the country's most popular talk radio host, Rush Limbaugh, told his listeners Tuesday that Mr. Obama "has yet to have to prove that he's a citizen." Lou Dobbs of CNN said that Mr. Obama should do more to dispel the claims. Larry King, also of CNN, asked guests about it, and other media types, including the MSNBC hosts Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow, merrily mocked the controversy. NBC News even did a segment on the subject.

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"This smear was thoroughly debunked during the election," said Eric Burns, the president of Media Matters for America, a liberal media monitoring organization.

Remarkably, there is even a reference to Mr. Obama's birth in the "Births, Marriages, Deaths" column of the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper on Aug. 13, 1961. Still, the claims about Mr. Obama's citizenship persist among a small but vocal group, essentially portraying Mr. Obama as a foreigner who has managed to conceal his origins for nearly five decades.

"It's racist," said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. "It's racist. Just call it for what it is."

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    • Author by bobbygoode (July 24, 2009 7:23 pm ET)
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      It fits right in with Dobbs' demagoguery of immigrants for YEARS. Like McCarthy (Joe) of the 50's, he's finding "undocumented aliens" under his bed, and now in the White House.
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    • Author by Addiction Analyst (July 24, 2009 7:44 pm ET)
         
      I am so tired of "news" media creating coverage of things that should be unpublishable or certainly not worth mentioning. We should give attention to the fringe of society.. please tell me it is the fringe.
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    • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (July 24, 2009 8:31 pm ET)
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      Now if only he'd say the same thing about half the stuff Pat Buchanan says....
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      • Author by LagalLeft (July 26, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
           
        You said exactly what I was thinking when I read the title to this article. I have sent e-mails to Mr. Griffin making the same
        argument about Pat Buchanan. No response, even when Pat made similar remarks on Mr. Griffin's own network.
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    • Author by christian6121485 (July 24, 2009 10:25 pm ET)
         
      Well we all know who Griffin works for.
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    • Author by Murlz (July 25, 2009 12:45 am ET)
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      LOL! Racist. Nice. The president of MSNBC is race baiting just like El Presidente's' buddy, Gates.
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    • Author by ProgLib (July 25, 2009 5:46 am ET)
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      damn that "far-left" librul phil griffin at "MSDNC"! how dare the "pro-obama network" support the facts to make a point! and smearing the paranoid conspiracy theorists... how could they?! the teabaggers are very upset now, too! look out for them... they will be coming with pitchforks and billy clubs standing up for the constitution that they love to follow.
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      • Author by anjax (July 26, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
           
        Yeah, only problem is - as fun as it is to laugh at mobs with pitchforks, it only takes one idiot with a gun. We've seen way too much of that recently from the far-right.
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    • Author by Marker (July 25, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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      Sums it up for me, "It's racist".
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    • Author by solon (July 25, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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      Obviously a very busy rightwing coward doesnt even post just drops by and gives every liberal post a thumbs down in each and every thread.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (July 25, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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        Looks like they maybe multiplying. Though seemingly unable to acually say anything about the posts.
        Racism is a big part of this certainly, there is more to it than that though. Political power is another big part.
        Interesting to see if the SPLC does take Lou to court.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 12:29 am ET)
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        They teaming up,they used to leave one.What can they do when they have nothing to say.When they talking or being quiet.Same thing saying nothing.
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    • Author by dusteemusic (July 26, 2009 2:13 am ET)
         
      I believe that if the media would stop reporting on it so often, it could make those birthers argument impotent. Print it once and move on.

      The more that it's reported about, the more energy we give this nonsense.
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    • Author by richrdh (July 26, 2009 3:01 am ET)
         
      Fox ratings keep going higher on the premise of everything anti Obama, and CNN wants to cash in on the ratings. So, onward Mr Dobbs. Watch his ratings and see what happens next.
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    • Author by bluhawk7398 (July 26, 2009 9:38 am ET)
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      I'm no proponent of the birther nonsense, if the long-form exists then it should be published/released to end this overwrought drama once and for all....however calling the movement(if that's what it is) racist is just as miscalculated and idiotic as the movement itself! Regardless of the geographical origin of Obama, simply using his skin color to throw the race card is wrong and following mm's lead on this proves how many liberals refuse to use common sense as opposed to closing ranks and using pom-pom power...
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      • Author by congero6189599 (July 26, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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        bluhawk you obviously either haven't been following the conversation or just refuse to believe what has been provided. I agree with this article and MSNBC president this birther non-sense has at it's core racist. There is no way around it. Obama has provided the necessary proof, this is nothing but an attempt to deligitimize him(as was attempted during the campaign)and paint him as un-American,playing to the racial fears that were fanned during the Presidential campaign. You call this a movement? It is a movement made up of racist quacks, they lost Nov.4 and we should not legitimize their quackery by acting like they have some point to make, they don't!
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        • Author by bluhawk7398 (July 26, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
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          Why doesn't the president just publish the long-form and diffuse the whole situation? He only lends credence to the conspiracy theories by refusing to comply....throwing the race card is only an attempt to paint any opposition as racist, a very old and lame trick, one I refuse to be hobbled by. I already stated that I thought the issue was overblown to begin with and now you come in with the same nonsense the others have already stated...if it's facts prove it-- show the long-form and shut everybody up!!!
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (July 26, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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            Why doesn't the president just publish the long-form and diffuse the whole situation?

            Maybe because he doesn't have it, the State of Hawaii does, and its legitimacy has been attested by that state's republican governor.

            He only lends credence to the conspiracy theories by refusing to comply....

            Wrong. He would lend credency by complying, or rather, by complying more than he actually has. And please face facts--the birthers won't be satisfied with anything that's given to them.
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            • Author by bluhawk7398 (July 26, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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              While birthers may not be satisfied with anything given, at least it would cut the legs out from under the centerpeice to their argument. I also think if the president requested the long-form be released the state of Hawaii would comply immediately, don't you?
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              • Author by EmberOfTruth (July 26, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
                   
                The physical paper long form does not exist. Hawaii did away with all paper records back in 2001. Any form they would produce would be a duplicate made from microfiche (presumably). Which, of course, would do nothing to silence the critics.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (July 26, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
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                I can't believe your still talking about a release of the long form, after all the discussion and facts provided on this site. Where the hell have you been! Obama has provided everything, everything he's needed to, he was born in Hawaii, it has been certified by that states officals, do your homework! There is no factual other side of this story. Everything the "birthers" have put out has been refuted,PERIOD!
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          • Author by congero6189599 (July 26, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
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            Bluhawk what you refuse to be hobbled by is your ignorance, the situation has been diffused the only ones that refuse to see it are the racist birthers, Barack has provided everything thats needed to prove he was born in Hawaii. There is nothing left to prove to You or them! He won the election and some can't stand a black man being president to them no proof would be enough. Also your making yourself look real stupid about Obama dispeling this myth about a long form. That discussion has been had and debunked on this site many times, your either lazy or too ignorant to dig for the facts bluhawk!
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            • Author by bluhawk7398 (July 27, 2009 6:03 pm ET)
                 
              I love it!! As usual instead of making rational sense, let's make personal attacks and attempt to delegitimize the opposing point of veiw.... attack, label, and attempt to dismiss, boy your brainwashers must be proud! You followed just like a drooling neanderthal!! Bravo!Bravo! Let's hear another cheer for one of the pom-pom crowd!!! Ya'll come back when ya wanna make a point, yeheah? btw- use spell check next time, when you attack the intelligence of an opponent, you'd better be squeaky-clean!!
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          • Author by bintx (July 27, 2009 8:14 am ET)
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            There are several reasons why the long form isn't produced, but it's up to the State of Hawaii. They've VERIFIED that it exists and that Mr. Obama was, indeed, born in the State of Hawaii on August 4, 1961. That's all that's necessary.

            You wouldn't want your long form certificate published . . . it has so much information on it that you would risk identity theft. Most states warn people against obtaining a copy of the long form.
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      • Author by Marker (July 26, 2009 11:37 am ET)
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        What part about this being made up and untrue don't you understand. It's not legitimate.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 26, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
           
        We are the football team the conservatives/republicans,are the cheerleaders.We have a game to win,no time for cheering.But keep on cheering.
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      • Author by anjax (July 26, 2009 11:40 pm ET)
           
        Has any white American presidential candidate been asked to provide a birth certificate? No. This isn't because he was born in Hawaii. Heck, John McCain was born at a US base in Panama and no one questioned him about his birth at all. Obama's birth certificate is available here.
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      • Author by bintx (July 27, 2009 8:12 am ET)
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        Do you ever recall anyone asking to see any other WHITE president's birth certificate? I don't.

        It's racism. These people REFUSE to accept the fact that a man with dark skin and a funny name could actually be their president. It's racism. Nobody's throwing the "race card" except the racists who continue to follow this ridiculous birther nonsense.
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      • Author by eekeller (July 27, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
           
        OMG. . .never been said about a white president...but this isn't racist. If this weren't so pathetic, it would be funny.
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    • Author by bintx (July 27, 2009 8:10 am ET)
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      Yes, it is and so is Pat Buchanan. Calling the birthers racist while continuing to give Buchanan a forum to spew his blatant racism is a bit hypocritical, don't ya think?
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    • Author by Looking_4_Truth (July 27, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
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      The article definitely hits the mark, "Just call it for what it is." This insanity masquerading as a movement has been going on for quite so time, and is only getting more visibility by the attention paid to it by right-wing media figures as Dobbs, Limbaugh, etc.
      For them, and those like them, it is merely a pay-day and therefore, important for them to keep driving the insanity truck all the way to the bank.
      It speaks volumes about the mindset of the "birthers" followers, who seem both ill and uninformed about the truth. Even moreso, it further shows how there are still divided and fragmented pockets in America, the lengths they will go to to hold on to the ways and thinkiing of the past, and resist changing their deep-rooted hatreds and fears.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (July 27, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
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      Textbook example of twisted Orwellian logic: If you dare protest a racist person or action you are also a racist, since you have to think in a racist way to detect racism. Ergo, people, especially minorities, who criticize other racists are engaging in "reverse racism" at worst. At best they're "race baiters" but then race baiters are also by definition racist.

      The rhetorical trap has been set. Open your mouth in protest and you're a racist too.

      I'm amazed at how many people employ this rhetorical trick, apparently believing earnestly that they've won the exchange.
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    • Author by OctoberSkies (July 27, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
         
      We will get responsible, real news media when Congress passes a law requiring the cable companies to let us choose which stations we wish to pay for. It will be a shakeout and we will lose the loosers like FOX and CNN and Lou Dobbs. The way it is now, the Cable companies are double dipping. They charge the cable carrier to carry their station and they charge big BIG prices for advertising on their stations. Then they pay huge salaries to asses like Lou Dobbs and Tweety.
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