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UPDATE: More on the Gore-Palin double standard

July 28, 2009 12:12 pm ET by Jamison Foser

To follow up on Eric's follow-up to my point about the media's response to Sarah Palin's  media criticism: the media's ridicule of Al Gore's 2002 media criticism, and their acquiescence to Palin's, is all the more striking given the media's treatment of Gore from 1997 through 2000 (not that it ended then.)

The media really did "make things up" about Gore -- they made up the claim that Gore had taken credit for discovering Love Canal, they made up a never-ending series of Gore exaggerations that all -- every one of them -- were actual media exaggerations; they made up fantasies about why he wore brown clothes (actual reason: everybody wears brown) and three-button suits (actual reason: everybody in 1999 wore three-button suits.)  They made up lies Gore didn't tell, then used those made-up lies to call Gore a liar.  They dutifully passed on every RNC attack on Gore, no matter how stupid and false, as fact.

And when Gore called them on it, they ridiculed him.

But when Sarah Palin -- who the media never held as accountable for her actual lies as they held Gore for the lies he didn't tell -- accuses the media of making things up, they can't be bothered to demand an example, and they certainly don't point out that Palin herself raised making things up to an art form during her campaign last year.

Is it any wonder the myth of the liberal media persists, given the way reporters dismiss valid progressive media criticism and obligingly pass along every inane conservative attack on their work?

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    • Author by Bad News (July 28, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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      Abraham Lincoln had a Civil War, he suffered from clinical depression, the man had 600,000 American souls on his heart.
      F.D.R, A two front World War, polio, high blood pressure & Heart desease and that's just the start.
      J.F.K, The Cuban Missile Crisis, addisons desease & A broken Freaking Back, taking every pain killer of the day.
      Sarah Palin " You know the main stream media they just keep picking away"

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by epkklk851 (July 28, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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        Very well said. If you can't manage the pains of the mainstream media, you can't manage the country. I know that Senator Gore had a lot thrown at him, but I still see him as coming through with his dignity intact. I can not say the same for Governor Palin.
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    • Author by shaggles (July 28, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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      To borrow a line from Sen. Franken: And unlike Gore her lies weren't even true.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (July 28, 2009 12:36 pm ET)
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      I grew up watching Walt Cronkite on CBS, which means I also grew up with the analysis of Daniel Schorr, Harry Reasoner and Eric Severeid...and in later years, Dan Rather. I would like to go back to the days of informed and educated writers who read the news and relied on the reports of other writer/investigators. I switched to PBS many years ago because it seemed the at the network news was becoming too much about infotainment. Consequently, I have a better opinion of Al Gore than I do Mrs. Palin. Her performance at the Republican Convention and her performance at the Vice Presidential Debates were enough on their own to put me off her permanently. The problem with going back to good writers and reports isn't a pretty picture, and it won't sell to many TV audiences who want to be told what to think by a pretty face in the most simplistic and perky manner. This explains much of Mrs. Palin's appeal. Mr. Gore was always too earnest and stuff to be charming for a TV audience. Too bad, we loose out.
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    • Author by vwcat (July 28, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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      sometimes I wonder what would happen if democrats whined and threw fits and felt sorry for themselves with the media the way the republicans have for 40 years. Hey, it works for them and they have been able to manipulate the gullible media for that long.
      We do need to keep after them about how they treat the far rightwing fringe as 'mainstream' while treating all democrats as far left fringies.
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      • Author by wookie (July 28, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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        The right have done a great job of making everything about claims of bias instead of established facts. From the rationale for war, to global warming, to Palin's silly claims that the media picked on her more than they did Obama and the Dems, it has been about demanding 2 sided or even heavily right leaning coverage even when the facts didn't support the right.
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    • Author by proudconservative (July 28, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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      Jamison,

      You seem like a blogger looking for an issue. When you presented this issue, at first it was about Palin attacking the media and using the military as cover. After it was pointed out that was not the case, given the fact you didn't use the whole quote or in context, then Eric jumped in to change the focus.

      Eric B. then described Governor Palin's 'alleged' rant against the media with what happened to algore in a previous life. It was shown that in a 23 minute speech, she spent all of 45 seconds or so about the media in the comment media matters (for very little) highlighted. It is obvious when viewed that the comment about the troops was neither a smokescreen or the focus of her referencing the media. She both compliments the media,the important role it plays in our democracy, and then makes it clear, the 'don't make things up' statement is not for all in the media.

      Jamison, view the video, part 1 beginning around 3 minute mark to see the breadth and width of the alleged rant.

      Now this has become about the lies that Gore and Palin have stated and the media response. When this line is debunked, I'm sure mm(fvl) will move on to some other complaint about her. Be honest, this is not about how or what she said, this line of blogging is about the fear the left as in her as a potential candidate. Isn't this just an example of "the politics of personal destruction"?
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      • Author by MM_JF (July 28, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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        "When you presented this issue, at first it was about Palin attacking the media and using the military as cover."

        You should probably re-read my original post. It was about the media uncritically quoting Palin's comment about the media making things up, without noting Palin's own history of making things up.

        Eric's follow-up, and this post, flow naturally from that.

        There was no missing necessary context from my original point. Nothing she said negated the fact that she accused the media of making things up.
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        • Author by proudconservative (July 28, 2009 7:14 pm ET)
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          Jamison,

          This from the first blog in the discussion:

          Sarah Palin, who has a lengthy history of making things up, basically accused the news media of dishonoring dead American soldiers by ... making things up. And the media typed up her words, not daring to point out the utter hypocrisy of her sanctimonious attack. An attack on them.


          Again, the full context of her statement gives your quote a different flavor. This was not someone waving the flag or hiding behind the death of soldiers to make the point, it was at the end of several statments reminding the media of the important part of democracy that they possess.

          The citation in you post (never use your own stuff as referencing proof, either) you link to comments about her lying about the bridge to nowhere. I could not find the full story in your link to a previous mm(fvl) report. But even within the confines of your commentary, it states that at best she was 'wishy-washy' in her support of the bridge while campaigning for, not acting as,governor. In the article, it admits that she basically said it was a lost cause and the project abandoned.

          Her speech wasn't a rant against the media and their lack of indignation in response probably reflects that they understood both the content and purpose of her statement and that there was nothing sanctimonious about it.
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          • Author by Appleboy (July 29, 2009 8:24 pm ET)
               
            never use your own stuff as referencing proof, either

            Are you kidding? Do you have an issue with the article he referenced? If not, why can't he reference it? Are you saying Einstein was wrong to reference his General Theory of Relativity in his later research?
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      • Author by pete592 (July 28, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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        "You seem like a blogger looking for an issue."

        LMFAO. Well, duh. That's what bloggers do.
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        • Author by proudconservative (July 28, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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          pete,

          I'm glad to have provided an opportunity for you to nail me, which you did!

          In the words of our president, I acted stupidly! :)
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    • Author by dennisintn (July 29, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
         
      roflmao, al, i invented the internet, gore is almost as big a liar as obama. not very far behind the two of them is pelosi running a very close third.
      sarah palin has the courage to just let the truth roll out whether she thinks you'll like it or not. i'll follow palin wherever she decides to take her career. i wouldn't trust anything the above 3 said about anything. i'm not sure either of them could order breakfast without lying.
      dennisintn
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