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In which I (partially) agree with Tucker Carlson

July 28, 2009 3:21 pm ET by Jamison Foser

Tucker Carlson, on Henry Louis Gates:

What happened to him likely had little to do with race, but it's still appalling. His crime? Failing to be polite to a policeman. Except that's not a crime, or shouldn't be, and the rest of us ought to do all we can to make sure it doesn't become one. 

I have no idea how much, if at all, race played a role in Gates' arrest, so I won't endorse Carlson's assessment of its likelihood.  But the rest of Carlson's statement seems spot-on, and illustrates the way the media mishandled this story.

See, Barack Obama said all along that he didn't know if race played a role in the arrest.  And he said the arrest was stupid anyway.  That's almost self-evident -- Gates was arrested in his own home, and charges against him were dropped.

But the media pretended that Obama had said something hugely controversial -- and they did so by ignoring the fact that he had gone out of his way to make clear that he was not saying race played a role in this specific arrest.  They just disappeared that part of his comments, and often suggested the opposite.

Had the rest of the media approached this the way Tucker Carlson did -- understanding that it's completely obvious that Gates shouldn't have been arrested -- their coverage would have been much better.

On the other hand, Carlson describes Gates as a "self-righteous whiner who probably cries racism every time he gets the wrong order at Starbucks."  I tend to assume that if any 58-year-old African American had spent his life "crying racism" every time he encountered it (let alone every time he got the wrong cup of coffee) there would be enough examples to fill a book.  As that isn't the case with Gates, Carlson's assessment of the professor seems ... odd.

Questioned by a reader about that description of Gates, Carlson pointed to a statement in Gates' Yale application.  I'm reasonably sure that by 1970, Henry Louis Gates had experienced racism more significant than getting the wrong order at Starbucks, and almost as sure that Tucker Carlson knows this. When a reader pointed that out, Carlson took issue with Gates' use of the word "Whitey" in that application.  Seems a little silly for a wealthy white man in 2009 to get so upset about a black man who grew up in a segregated town using the word "Whitey" 40 years ago, but that's Tucker Carlson for you.

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    • Author by seeryer (July 28, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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      The bottom line is Cops want to be treated with the utmost respect. Any whiff of someone not displaying absolute fealty to a cop will be made an example of. I have seen it done to my white friends and my black friends. It is a power grab pure and simple. Carlson's libertarian views sometimes get in the way of his advocacy. What he is saying about the arrest is how most Republicans feel. Except in this case they could distort their nemesis, Obama, in order to fan the flames of false outrage. Someone needs to explain to Republicans what "apart and aside from" means. Becasue Obama used that phrase when he noted the history of racial profiling in America. In other words, he meant, "I am not saying racial profiling happened in the Gates situation but there is a history of it between police officers and minority communities." How dare he state the obvious. But in reality, conservatives don't believe it. They think it is a liberal lie. Look at Thomas Sowell's column this AM. He cites and author that "debunks" the claim of racist cops. I know, poor Thomas.
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      • Author by pointofview (July 28, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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        Both Black and White officers support Crowley, and they all say the obvious.......Obama blew it, and Gates is putting up a huge smoke screen. Crowley should not have the beer with them until they both apologize.

        http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2009/07/26/nr.comrade.in.arms.cnn
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        • Author by seeryer (July 28, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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          Thanks for proving my point. This is about Cops showing who has the upper hand. I noted that it has happened to white friends and black friends. Obama blew one thing and that was the use of one word. He is smarter than that and he should have known the furor that one word would spark in a petty media and even pettier poltical opponents. Have you ever been treated like a second class citizen simply because the cops have the power to? I have and I am white. He would have used the word stupidly to describe the exact same issue had it involved a white friend. Can you admit that?
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          • Author by pointofview (July 28, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
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            Had it been a white suspect I do not think Obama would have gotten involved.
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            • Author by seeryer (July 28, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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              So you mean the media would not have asked him about it? I agree. Are you saying that if Arne Duncan had been arrested in his own home and Lynn Sweet asked him about it he would have refrained from commenting? What a joke.
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              • Author by pointofview (July 28, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
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                I think he would have said he did not know all the facts.....and left it at that....like he should have done in this case.
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                • Author by seeryer (July 28, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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                  Whatever. You are saying that because Gates was black he commented on it but would not have if he was white? What were the political advantages of him weighing in on this? Trying to get 99% instead of 97% of the black vote? Your POV is skewed IMO.
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                  • Author by pointofview (July 28, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
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                    I am saying that because Gates is black and his friend yes
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          • Author by puttforever4682 (July 28, 2009 4:13 pm ET)
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            President Obama maybe acted like he was an ordinary citizen instead of POTUS when characterizing the police's actions.

            Most long haired types of the late sixties and seventies know that the police reacted very badly unless one groveled before them. I still find it impossible to believe Sergeant Crowley was surprised at professor Gates reactions. I would think it would be expected that one might react badly to being considered criminal in one's own house.
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          • Author by bruce1ace (July 28, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
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            I have been berated by a cop who was WAY out of line and I am white. I wasn't even talking back to him he just went off on me when I ran a stop sign in my car. (This was 20 years ago when I was in my early 20's) I certainly admit I deserved a ticket but not the verbal abuse I took for several minutes.

            So yes cops make mistakes and there's nothing wrong with saying that or saying that there have been many cases in history where race has played a huge part in cops misbehavior.

            I just don't think you can say definitively that this was a race related arrest in this particular case based on the public evidence. Obama didn't say it but others have.
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            • Author by seeryer (July 28, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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              I just don't think you can say definitively that this was a race related arrest in this particular case based on the public evidence. Obama didn't say it but others have.

              Agreed, but it is Obama being hammered and Obama being called a racist in light of his answer. And since he is black and the officer was white they are portraying it as a race issue. Even though Obama was not even commenting on race. He was commenting on the fact that a middle aged man was arrested in his own home after proving to Police it was his own home. Every American should be appreciative of the president noting the absurdity of it.
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              • Author by bruce1ace (July 28, 2009 5:30 pm ET)
                   
                People calling Obama a racist over this are idiots. I only said I thought he used a poor choice of words in his PC.
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                • Author by bintx (July 28, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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                  But, he was correct. Crowly acted stupidly. There was absolutely NO reason to arrest Gates in his own home for being upset with the cop. A really good cop would have recognized this, apologized for the error, turned around and WALKED out.
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                  • Author by bruce1ace (July 28, 2009 6:59 pm ET)
                       
                    You can be correct and still use a poor choice of words.
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        • Author by harley (July 28, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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          Both Black and White professors support Obama and Gates, and they all say the obvious.......the officer blew it, and Crowley is putting up a huge smoke screen. Gates should not have the beer with Crowley until he apologizes.
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          • Author by pointofview (July 28, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
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            And where is your link idiot. I posted interviews with those in the dept...what do you have....nothing.
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            • Author by overmars jr. (July 28, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
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              Well, he does have a sense for satire that you clearly lack.

              So there is that.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (July 28, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
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              Oh gee, name calling now to make your point.
              Again, even though you don't care and/or will ignore the truth anyway. They don't refer to other officers as a "brother" cop for nothing. The police hang tight, just like men in combat units do. It has been shown time and time again, when an officer has crossed the line, that his "brother" officers will state "he is a great cop, he would never do that". Then down the road, after all the evidence has surfaced, we find out that actually he would do that, and did, and his "brother" officers were aware of it. Do some research and see what you find but; of course, then you would lose your talking point.
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          • Author by wookie (July 28, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
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            Releasing the 911 call did nothing to help Crowley. He claimed that the woman said two black males were breaking in when she didn't say their race. Also she said that they had suitcases and might live there. Sure Crowley's friends support him but he has little justification.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (July 28, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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              I don't think it exonerates him for anything but; it certainly doesn't help the police. The caller did not want to state race because she couldn't she them clearly. When pushed she said one might be hispanic. The police report to the reporting officers stated "2 black males". I guess it is a good thing it wasn't two white guys ripping people off. The police would have drove right by, since they were looking for black suspects.
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              • Author by Brabantio (July 29, 2009 12:02 am ET)
                   
                That's how Zodiac got away from one of his murder scenes, as police were looking for a black man. They actually talked to the killer themselves while looking for someone who fit the description.

                I don't know how often that happens, but it is possible that was a misunderstanding outside of Crowley's control. Or it's possible that he misheard it, or that his memory of the call altered after seeing Gates. It does raise a red flat in a situation where Crowley has enough strange behavior to account for already, though.
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 28, 2009 5:14 pm ET)
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              Cops don't take 911 calls. Dispatchers do. Until we have the transcripts of the dispatch call, it doesn't make a difference what came across the phone.
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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 28, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
             
          Don't forget Spanish officers and Hmong officers also support Crowley...

          I think in this situation it would probably be okay to have a bowl of soup together, maybe a diet coke. But, no, I don't think a beer would be appropriate. It would send a very mixed message.
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      • Author by shaggles (July 28, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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        I think you're right about the cops wanting to be treated with respect but hey, you know what? Obama is President of the United States! How about a little respect for him? The same people who are gnashing their teeth over President Obama saying the police acted stupidly (probably not the best choice of words but how else do you describe arresting someone for disturbing the peace in his own home?) call Obama a communist/fascist/America-hating/baby-killing usurper every day of the week. They want respect for the cops? How about a little respect for President Obama?
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        • Author by seeryer (July 28, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
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          They will never respect a DEM president, especially a black DEM president. It is a shame but it is the fruits of the Southern Strategy.
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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 28, 2009 5:15 pm ET)
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            Exactly what respect was Pres. Bush shown by the left?
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (July 28, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
                 
              We accepted that he was the president.
              Our critism was based on his actions. How much of that critism made it to the media as something worth discussion?
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            • Author by shaggles (July 28, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
                 
              At 6 months into his first term quite a lot.
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              • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 28, 2009 5:46 pm ET)
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                I disagree shaggles. He was never looked at as legitimate to the left because of the '00 elections. Even the WH press corps didn't call him Mr. President, they called him Mr. Bush.

                I can go on with the slights, even go back to H.W.'s term and Reagan with examples, but I think you get my point.
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                • Author by bintx (July 28, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
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                  Mr. Bush is the correct salutation.
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (July 28, 2009 8:08 pm ET)
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                  Bush never was legitimate, that is correct. And he kept proving it over and over.

                  Even the WH press corps didn't call him Mr. President, they called him Mr. Bush

                  Which wasn't very often because for most of Dubya's first 9 months in office he was bikin', or fishin', or golfin', or clearin' brush.
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            • Author by bintx (July 28, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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              I'm not the left and I had little respect for George W. Bush. He should never have held the office he held. He had a very long history of incompetence in business . . . he continued to show the EXACT same behavior as President. He lied to the American people and he sent thousands of our best and brightest to die in an unnecessary "war of choice."

              Nope, no respect.
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            • Author by ILikePizza (July 28, 2009 6:08 pm ET)
                 
              President Bush was given every chance to succeed by Americans of every stripe. His approval rating peaked at ninety percent after 9/11, remember when he rallied America by telling us to go shopping? It was above fifty percent well into 2004 and spiked at seventy following the Iraq war, i.e. we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.

              Anyone with the capacity to learn was fairly suspicious of his abilities by election 2004 and in the end, i.e. 2006 ,it had become abundantly clear that President Bush was supremely unqualified for the job.

              The canard that Democrats never gave him a chance is horse manure. It is just another in a long list of false Republican slogans.

              http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2009/jan/16/george-bush-approval-ratings-america
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    • Author by jason10006 (July 28, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
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      "Had it been a white suspect I do not think Obama would have gotten involved. "

      Really? Then you apparently do not realize that this person was a personal FRIEND of the President. You don't think if a WHITE friend of any President was arrested that the President would not be asked about it? Really?
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    • Author by bintx (July 28, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
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      That's what I've been saying all along. The cop "acted stupidly" because Gates dared to get angry about being rousted in his OWN HOME. He committed no crime. Upon hearing that Gates was the owner of the home, he should have apologized for the inconvenience, given Gates his name and badge number, turned around and WALKED AWAY. He was the irritant in the situation. As a cop, he used very, very poor judgment.
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