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Matthews spreads lies about health care reform

August 03, 2009 6:06 pm ET by Jamison Foser

Chris Matthews, talking about opposition to health care reform (while, by the way, ignoring the fact that the demonstrations he's talking about are phony):

How much does this thing is about people coming to you talking about end of life decisions spook people, Michael?  This thing, this provision, that talks about you get to talk about a living will. But it sounds to some people like, you're getting a little ill, all of a sudden somebody shows up at your door like they're a missionary and says "lets talk about how you're going to save the government money and your family the burden of continuing to live."  that's the way it hits some people.

No, it doesn't hit some people that way.  It doesn't sound that way to anybody.  I'm quite confident that nobody, upon reading any health care proposal, has sincerely concluded that it would result in someone showing up at your door and telling you to save the government some money and just die already.

No, the idea that there is any such provision is a flat-out lie, made up by opponents of reform in an attempt to kill it.  And Chris Matthews just helped spread that lie to the entire nation.  Heckuva job, Chris.  

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    • Author by mk3872 (August 03, 2009 6:11 pm ET)
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      Well, what does he care? He has a cadillac policy & $MM in income. And he said earlier that, hey, it's not a big deal because there aren't riots in the streets calling for health care reform.

      He's just an idiot.
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    • Author by Infoaddict (August 03, 2009 6:14 pm ET)
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      So much of a bill never mind a law is open to interpretation. That is why there are courts and lawyers. In light of this FACT do you really think that your opinion or interpretation is any more on target than Mr. Matthews?
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      • Author by MM_JF (August 03, 2009 6:24 pm ET)
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        Yes.
        Please feel free to produce any provision of any health care legislation that could plausibly be interpreted as causing someone to knock on your door and tell you it's time to die once you get ill.
        I'll wait.
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      • Author by ReasonAndResolve (August 03, 2009 7:33 pm ET)
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        Have you read it? It plainly states that the counselling is not mandatory and it is not done by the government.

        The section is merely to allow coverage of end-of-life counselling by Medicare - in nearly the same language as legislation proposed by a Republican Rep last Spring.

        It is not open to interpretation. It is plain and simple. You are being lied to.

        Matthews is not bright enough to even understand that he is propagating the lie - even if he knows it is a lie. He has never been very prudent with his word choices.
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        • Author by mrsyosemite (August 05, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
             
          If it's not mandatory, there's no reason to put it in the bill.

          Furthermore, if you can't simply state the points on which you disagree with Matthews without questioning his intelligence, then your credibility is questionable. There's no need to get personal when you differ with someone on policy opinions. Be mature, be objective, and just put the information out there. Otherwise, you're not going to convince anyone you're worth taking seriously.
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          • Author by fauxpopuli (August 06, 2009 12:26 am ET)
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            "If it's not mandatory, there's no reason to put it in the bill."

            What is this, seat-of-the-pants reasoning? Do you think that's true because you say so? If Medicare isn't authorized to pay for something then guess what: Medicare cannot pay for it. Changing this is a reason to put it in the bill. Complicated, I know.

            As for the rest, he said Matthews was insincere not stupid. Funny how in your view being insufficiently polite is a bigger problem than spreading FUD that scares old folks into thinking the government will use their tax dollars to encourage them to die. Personally I'll care if people treat Matthews with respect once he establishes that he deserves some.

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      • Author by The_Cat (August 04, 2009 10:22 am ET)
           
        Infoaddict:

        Please explain how 'optional' can in any case or event be interpreted as 'mandatory'?
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    • Author by mustardman (August 03, 2009 6:36 pm ET)
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      Yea, I watched this and he REALLY went of the rails.....AGAIN!

      He is becoming more and more out of touch by the day. Still hit's a home run once in awhile like with the afterbirthers.
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    • Author by thebewilderness (August 03, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
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      He has forgotten Terry Schiavo.
      The case where we all learned that we had better make an end life plan or there would be a bunch of raving maniacs picketing our hospital bed screaming their heads off.
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    • Author by Soapm (August 03, 2009 7:47 pm ET)
         
      I remember the rights outrage when the effigy of Palin was made. Now they are doing the same thing. Talk about hypocrites.

      http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/28/dem-effigy-afp/
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 04, 2009 10:27 am ET)
           
        One funny thing, Soapm, is that the Right is also talking about Code Pink and their sometimes disruptive means of protesting the illegal Iraq war to justify the shouting going on (according to the plan) at town halls about health coverage reform.

        What's funny about it is, they've basically admitted that those doing the disruptive shouting at town halls are not 'just concerned, average citizens who are concerned about socialized medicine', but that they are in fact part of an organization designed specifically to oppose the public option. It's the Right's favorite defense: They're doing it too!
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    • Author by ayele17foli4121 (August 03, 2009 7:53 pm ET)
         
      I don't think Chris worries about spreading lies. He just want to throw out bombastic words. Although I watch him from time to time, I don't take him seriously. I've come to notice that he consciously or not disregard the veracity of the facts he put out there.
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    • Author by bip84124092 (August 03, 2009 8:34 pm ET)
         
      I watched that idiot today and wanted to throw something at the TV. I couldn't believe my ears. Unless he's stupid he had to know about the memo instructing these phony losers on how to be disruptive and even going so far as to bus them into districts that are not their own. That's a story in and of itself. To make matters worse why would he have Michael Smirconish (sp?) and Johnathan Martin as guests. Both are conservatives no matter what Martin says. Of Course they agreed that the public is turned off to Obama's plan and these "passionate" people were proof. There was no counterbalance. Somethings up with him, maybe he got a memo of his own. Time for old Chris to get called out again. I'm sending a little missive to MSNBC for sure.
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    • Author by Whispers (August 03, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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      The sad thing is that this kind of behavior is exactly what insurance companies do. If insurance plans were not in the practice of denying coverage to their clients after said clients became seriously ill, there would be considerably less demand for public health insurance.

      As always, the best way to get away with rotten behavior is to accuse your enemy of doing exactly what you are doing. And let's not kid ourselves - the insurance companies are the ones fomenting all the resistance to public health care.
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      • Author by Vincenzo (August 03, 2009 9:17 pm ET)
           
        They have a ready conduit in what is left of the GOP and other conservatives who have vast experience in fanning imaginary fears in the masses.
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    • Author by Richard3000 (August 04, 2009 3:24 am ET)
         

      Republicans have so totally sold out to the insurance and drug industries that they will make egregious claims to keep the money rolling in. It's all about money and power to them.
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    • Author by MickD (August 04, 2009 9:53 am ET)
         
      The debate seems over. It's all negative about the health care plan all the time now. Just like the mid-1990s. It's easy to fool people when everytime they turn on a media outlet, it's telling them that the health coverage they want and need is not going to work for them. Even if you are REALLY, REALLY for it and are anticipating that you will finally have peace of mind in coverage, they make you question the outcome.

      A perfect example of how money corrupts power. Instead of using power to uplift, the media chooses to crawl in the mud with the lobbyists and the money. Pathetic.

      How long will any sort of public option be buried after this round fails? 10 years? 20?
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (August 04, 2009 10:31 am ET)
         
      I'm greatly disappointed Chris...
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    • Author by pags2 (August 04, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
         
      Matthews is usually on target for most issues. I would suspect that this was an issue he was shooting from the hip. I don't ascribe evil intentions to this statement, just lack of knowledge.
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    • Author by mikethern (August 04, 2009 2:19 pm ET)
         
      I don't think Chris Matthews was supporting the myth but attempting to debunk it. I wish they would just skip all the lies and distortion that the right puts out to cloud the issue. But if we are to have free press and free speech then we as americans need to educate ourselves and check the facts as they are presented by the talking heads on both sides of the issue.

      I support health care reform and have down loaded HR 3200 and have read some of it as issues have come up in the media. We all need to get involved, get educated and put these lies to bed quickly when they are spouted by our friends, neigbors and coworkers.

      Michael Chapman, RN
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      • Author by fauxpopuli (August 06, 2009 12:30 am ET)
           
        He's granting the premise that "all of a sudden somebody shows up at your door like they're a missionary" while insisting that he really knows it's all about living wills and is only concerned how people will interpret it. If he can't bother to say out loud that nobody shows up unless requested or drop in a clarifying phrase like "now obviously that isn't true, but..." then I'd call that a half-debunking at best.
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