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At Newsmax, speculation = evidence

August 14, 2009 3:59 pm ET by Terry Krepel

One almost has to admire Matthew Vadum, senior editor at the right-wing Capital Research Center, for the sheer audacity of admitting that he doesn't have the facts to support his smear of President Obama, yet going ahead with the smear anyway.

In an Aug. 13 Newsmax article suggesting that an advertiser boycott campaign of Glenn Beck's Fox News show spearheaded by the group Color for Change, co-founded by current Obama administration official Van Jones, is "being orchestrated with some high level help from the Obama White House," reporter David A. Patten quotes Vadum as saying, "I don't have proof that the White House asked Color of Change to help it fight back against Glenn Beck ... But I wouldn't be surprised to learn it had. Van Jones has the president's ear. It's a few hundred feet from his office at the Council on Environmental Quality to the Oval Office."

That's it. The relative proximity of Jones' and Obama's offices -- a mere football field length away from each other! -- plus Vadum's baseless speculation are all the evidence Patten offers of this purported scheme.

It's hard to tell who's more foolish here -- Vadum for making such a boldly empty claim or Patten for building an article around it.

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    • Author by kfraz43 (August 14, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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      A non-story about a nonexistent connection that wouldn't even be a big deal if it WERE true (per Dick Cheney: "so?") backed up by the bullet-proof fact that Vadum "wouldn't be surprised" if there was a connection because of the other, MUCH more incriminating fact that Van Jones is "a few hundred feet" from the Oval Office.

      ("wouldn't be surprised if" + proximity) = fact.

      Yup, that's how they roll on the right, baby...
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 14, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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        These right wing "think tanks" and websites don't seem to hold themselves to any higher standards than the average wingnut troll at this site.

        "It's obvious..", "We all know..", " The fact is...", these are all phrases that frequently introduce long, rambling comments here that are entirely built on an opinion stated as fact.

        I saw another classic yesterday. A poster posts several links over several days or weeks to right wing opinion pieces that agree with the poster about some BS talking point. When the topic comes up again, the poster insists that he's "proven" or "debunked" the point many times in the past.

        That's how they roll, kfraz.

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        • Author by kfraz43 (August 14, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
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          You've gotta admit, that's nice work.
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        • Author by cann0nba11 (August 14, 2009 5:31 pm ET)
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          Let's insert the various Obama catch phrases: "Some will say..." "There are those that say..." "I'm the president, I won..." "I'm not like the other presidents on the dollar bill..."

          Shut up. Get the facts and stop focusing on stupid minutae. Obama is teasing all of you politically apathetic trolls with "birther" talk and "mob" comments while he is systematically removing almost all of our freedoms. Sadly, he TOLD US he was going to do this, yet you voted for him anyway thanks to your hatred for Bush. Bend over, it's gonna hurt. Look at the facts. Get educated.
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          • Author by dmhack (August 14, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
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            Got it. It's all a plot. Bush, good. Obama, evil.
            Oh, and the bending over line---brilliant!
            Thanks for bringing so much to the discussion and most of all, thanks for not typing in caps.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 14, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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            I'm really disappointed at the declining quality of the trolls here. It looks like c4nn0n84!! is replying to me, but I really can't figure out what it's even trying to say.

            Something about Obama teasing people with the birfer movement? Anybody?
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            • Author by wookie (August 15, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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              I think its something about how Obama is paying wingnuts to attack him so he can set up his Commie dictatorship. Or Islamic republic. Or something.
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          • Author by progressiveright (August 15, 2009 6:36 pm ET)
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            I have not lost one freedom or right under Obama but I was told by the right under Bush I had lost the right to disagree with the President. I also saw the Bushies take away guns (against the law). They also deprived citizens of their rights to education, safe housing, protection from to much government interference and being bullied by big business.
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      • Author by cann0nba11 (August 14, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
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        Remember when liberals used to fight, scream, yell and protest FOR free speech? What the hell happened to you people?
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        • Author by dmhack (August 14, 2009 5:55 pm ET)
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          We're leaving it up to your side to scream and yell against free speech. Wonderful job, by the way. Republicans lost another point in the polls after all their screaming and yelling and now have a solid 17% approval. Another couple of months and they'll scream and yell themselves down to single digits.

          I can hardly wait.
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        • Author by arebeeo (August 15, 2009 11:27 am ET)
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          Sure, you have free speech to write even the most stupid of articles. No one is disputing that here.
          One other note: These guys making this allegation are basing it on how the Bush White House handled situations like this. They called Fox News and other right wing outlets to start a smear campaign and got cooperation.
          In Beck's case no one from the White House had to instigate anything. He is just that bad.
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    • Author by cann0nba11 (August 14, 2009 5:29 pm ET)
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      Almost as bad as Obama making his "acted stupidly"comment about the police? Obama is setting the example for our future. You can't criticize anyone that simply mimics Obama, right?
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      • Author by kfraz43 (August 14, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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        Do you have a point, or are you just going to keep on regurgitating right wing primetime bullet points?
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        • Author by dmhack (August 14, 2009 8:32 pm ET)
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          He has a point, but he wears a hat to keep it covered.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (August 14, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
             
          Well I'be interested in who mimics Obama.
          He maybe telling you that law enforcement officials in general, and one in particular has not, and do not act stupidly.
          Perhaps that no one else will be allowed to be an example for the future. Not a sunny view.
          I could be wrong in part or totally stupid. Somehow it weighs lightly upon me.
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      • Author by MrPlow99 (August 14, 2009 10:21 pm ET)
           
        So if you were arrested in your own home by police for disorderly conduct, you wouldn't think the police acted stupidly?
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      • Author by wookie (August 15, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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        So uh, your point is that Obama will set up his "big government" by criticizing wrongful arrest?
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      • Author by progressiveright (August 15, 2009 6:40 pm ET)
           
        Beck is making threatening acts in his news show this is far worse than say someone acted stupidly. What Beck is doing is threatening the President or members of Congress this is a crime. What Obama did was to state his opinion when he should not have.
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    • Author by Steve@WA (August 15, 2009 12:12 am ET)
         
      Who in the Conservative-media-birther-hate-echo chamber needs evidence beyond the obvious connection of the President and Jones' skin color?

      Given their derangement during the Clinton years, it's not all about race. But those of us who understand that our hopes for our nation's future rest solely with President Obama and the Democrats in Congress should all become more sensitized to the racial subtext of all conservative spew.

      And am I the only one who thinks cann0nba11 is an idiot undeserving of reply much less engagement? Could any of these incoherent sputtering teabagging birthers explain exactly what "freedoms" are being threatened by any of the Democrat's proposals? ("They took our jobs!" "They took our jobs!" "They took our jobs!")
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