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ColorofChange.org: 36 companies have now dropped ads from Beck

August 24, 2009 6:26 pm ET by Media Matters staff

From an August 24 ColorofChange.org press release:

Facing increased pressure from ColorOfChange.org members, 16 new companies have pledged not to run additional ads on Fox News Channel's Glenn Beck Program. Thirty-six companies have now committed not to support Beck's show since ColorOfChange.org launched its campaign three weeks ago.

The defections come as ColorOfChange.org members mobilized last week against corporations who still refused to pull their ads from Glenn Beck by placing thousands of phone calls to company executives. By the end of the week, three of these companies - Clorox, Lowe's and Sprint - had pledged not to run additional ads; Red Lobster and Vonage have not yet responded.

The new companies distancing themselves from Beck include Airware Inc. (makers of Brez anti-snoring aids), Ancestry.com, AT&T, Blaine Labs Inc., Campbell Soup Company, Clorox, Ditech, The Elations Company, Experian (creator of FreeCreditReport.com), Farmers Insurance Group, Johnson & Johnson (makers of Tylenol), Lowe's, NutriSystem, Sprint, The UPS Store and Verizon Wireless. They join twenty other companies who previously pledged not to run additional ads on Glenn Beck. The moves come after the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a "racist" who "has a deep-seated hatred for white people" during an appearance on Fox & Friends.

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    • Author by dr. matt (August 24, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
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      [http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2009/08/BeckCrying_1f6ab.jpg]
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      • Author by bittermarv (August 24, 2009 8:18 pm ET)
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        Jebus Chrize! Could ya warn a guy first?
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      • Author by captfoster2 (August 24, 2009 9:28 pm ET)
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        [http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/s-GLENN-BECK-CRYING-large.jpg]

        Not quite as good as the one from Dr. Matt, but just as pathetic in that it shows Glenn faking tears yet again...
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      • Author by jsphere1 (August 25, 2009 12:09 am ET)
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        Look at this picture people. Real or not these are the tears of a clown. Folks will say " but Glenn speaks from his heart," really? There is nothing creditable about this guy. Like the propagandists before him,he creates a picture that depicts concerns worries and fears that face us all. His reasoning is; that by being emotional his concerns are real, that these tears of fear are the heart felt reactions to the issues that face us as a nation. Is it a ploy? Sure he knows what effects his audience and as an entrepreneur in an arena where image and depiction are the content, he knows that an idea that is emotionally felt or displayed will get the greatest results. I have listened to his show for three years and I'm stunned, especially with the radio show, how disrespectful to his listeners and his audience.
        If it isn't a ploy then wow watch out folks he is truly scary and unstable and erratic soul. Send him off, out and gone.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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          So who does speak from the heart, Obama? Everything that comes out of his mouth are more lies straight from the Chicago political machine. Oh wait, I know, how about Pelosi, who lied to congress about having no knowledge of the CIA interrogation techniques. Oh wait, I have a better one. How about Tim Geitner cheating on his taxes and then turning around and saying we have to crack down on tax cheats?
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (August 25, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
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            Troll alert.
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            • Author by jstephens005 (August 25, 2009 11:18 pm ET)
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              Progressive name caller following the tactics of Saul Alinsky alert.

              Raise the bar. Most of what he said is provable.
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              • Author by dr. matt (August 26, 2009 9:11 am ET)
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                Progressive name caller following the tactics of Saul Alinsky alert.
                Becky is now a progressive following the tactics of Alinksy? Interesting.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
                     
                  Are you honestly that dense? He was referring to what I said, not Beck. Wow.
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              • Author by dr. matt (August 26, 2009 9:11 am ET)
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                Most of what he said is provable.
                Prove it. We'll wait, dolt.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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                  Calling someone a "dolt" only proves your mind-boggling idiocy. Thank you for that.
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              • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
                   
                and what about those on the other side of the isle? every republican is lilly white right? never sold themselves out.

                you wanna pull this game at least admit that both sides are guilty of this
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
                 
              Great response.
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          • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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            Everything that comes out of his mouth are more lies straight from the Chicago political machin
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            Does the whining Becky know you are stealing his material?

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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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              It's not "material", it's facts. You may want to get some before speaking.
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          • Author by newzhound (August 25, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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            "...the Chicago political machine." Cliche alert!

            Mr. Obama was outside the Democratic Chicago political machine. Haven't you been reading the newspapers or watching tv for the past several years? The African-American/Hyde Park wing of Chicago's Democratic Party was not part of Mayor Daly's "machine."

            Guess that's too much for you, huh? Go back to sucking the front teat of Faux Noise. Probably the most substantial nurishment your delicate body can sustain.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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              Oh man, I needed a laugh today. He was "outside the political machine". I don't even know how to respond to a comment that absurd.
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          • Author by papa bear3 (August 26, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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            I bet Beck has good health insurance, his rates aren't going up
            FOX takes care of their own.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
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            mmmm a good one. but ive got a few for you as well.

            how about vp dick ordering the leak of a cia agent? Valerie Plame anyone?

            what about kkkarl rove and the purges of the us attorney's office that were his doing.

            what about the torture and assassination program run by vp dick and hid from congress?

            and lets not forget the sweetheart deals given to haliburton, kbr, and blackwater. (ya know the mercenary outfit that is on a Modern Crusade and is no better than a bunch of murders)

            how about illegal wiretapping of EVERYONE in the country.

            are you really gonna try and sit there and play this game....cause guess what. your gonna lose big. heck the party you support has already lost BIG. and will continue to lose BIG because they prove that they are willing to sell themselves for anything. ( Duke Cunningham comes to mind)

            now far be it from me that there isnt corruption within the democratic party. i mean there is in all politics. but don't you dare paint one side as the saints and the other the sinners. they all are sinners or at least nearly all are.
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
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        Only three thumbs down? Disappointing.
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        • Author by Pinhead (August 25, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
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          Well... I was inclined to give you thumbs down, too. That picture scared the living ___ out of me!!!
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      • Author by pointofview (August 25, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
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        CABLE NEWS RACE
        MONDAY, AUG. 24, 2009

        FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,440,000
        FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,937,000
        FOXNEWS BECK 2,810,000
        FOXNEWS GRETA 2,450,000
        FOXNEWS BAIER 2,066,000
        FOXNEWS SHEP 1,860,000
        MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,114,000
        CNN KING 1,063,000
        MSNBC MADDOW 885,000
        CNN COOPER 827,000
        MSNBC HARDBALL 640,000

        enough said about this silly boycott
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        • Author by Übermensch (August 25, 2009 6:51 pm ET)
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          Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.
          ~Edward R. Murrow
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        • Author by Bucket Fishing (August 25, 2009 7:21 pm ET)
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          actually, it says a lot about folks that watch a lot of TV...
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        • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 8:38 pm ET)
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          enough said about this silly boycott


          Even with Becky's "ratings", 33 advertisers and counting are dropping him. Enough said about those silly ratings.
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          • Author by jstephens005 (August 25, 2009 11:16 pm ET)
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            From what I've read, only a handful of the advertisers are actually removing ads from Beck's show. Most of them bought bulk advertising with the expectation that they would not be on any political opinion show (liberal or conservative).

            So, this is a fairly slanted view of the effect Color of Change is having.

            That said, as a conservative, I have mixed feelings on this boycott. On one hand, I say that its crap that they are attacking Beck for his speech. He has a right to say that Obama is a racist.

            On the other hand, they have the right to attempt a boycott... I've read hundreds of posts from folks that are pushing the opposite direction, telling folks like Wal-Mart they will no longer go because they pulled the ads.
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            • Author by blueberrysushi (August 26, 2009 1:00 am ET)
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              On one hand, I say that its crap that they are attacking Beck for his speech. He has a right to say that Obama is a racist.

              Of course he can say that Obama is a racist. And they have a right to pull their advertising. No one is trampling Beck's right to free speech.
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              • Author by artist2007 (August 26, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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                We do have our rights... Thank God... if conservative right wing talk show host want to talk 100% crap out of their mouths... Then it's time to fight back anyway we can.... What ever it takes to bring back real news... not talking heads who use freedom of speech to gossip false truths. It's ugly and will cause more harm then good.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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                  Real news, like what comes out of MSNBC? That's hilarious.
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                  • Author by MDin2012UIC (August 27, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
                       
                    Sir, as a Medical Student who has to sit and listen to Medical Doctors lecture on various and sundry topics, I can tell you that the overwhelming consensus is to move toward a Universal Health Plan and away from private insurance handcuffing doctors. Physicians from the College of Surgeons, the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the National Medical Association, National Hispanic Medical Association, and countless others have come out in favor of a national program. 60% of physicians have come out in support of single payer, let alone the HR 3200 bill which is very short of a single payer system. We are sick of the American people paying close to double what any other industrialized nation per capita for sub par service from the insurance industry. The good thing about the current bill is that, for those who want to continue to proverbially slam their head against the table of private insurance, that choice is still open to them. Its ridiculous that we need to be told to look at patient charts and see what treatment plan patients get and notice that people with different insurance get different advice, because insurance doesn't always pay for necessary treatment. Add to that the fact that new medications made by Big Pharma (which are always derivatives of old medications. All novel medications are discovered through NIH funding) do not need to be proven to work better than current therapies to be approved.
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                    • Author by starkcr31 (August 27, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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                      What does any of what you just have to do with my comment? I was referring to the bias of MSNBC. However, now that we're on the subject, I'll respond to your point. So many people support universal health care because it SOUNDS great. It really does, but as other countries have shown (as well as some states that currently have a program), it is unsustainable, and that is with populations that are a fraction of our own. Do you honestly think a country that is broke will be able to afford unlimited health care for 300 million people? Rationing WILL happen. That's a fact. Our health care system is far from perfect and I never claimed it was, but handing over the most important thing we have to bureaucrats is absurd.
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            • Author by dr. matt (August 26, 2009 9:09 am ET)
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              From what I've read, only a handful of the advertisers are actually removing ads from Beck's show.


              What have you read exactly and where? 36 is a "handful"? Fail.


              On one hand, I say that its crap that they are attacking Beck for his speech.
              What does a free market decision have to do with free speech? Are you really this obtuse that you can't see this has NOTHING to do with free speech. Do you know what free speech is?
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              • Author by starkcr31 (August 27, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
                   
                "Handful" is a relative term so your statement makes no sense.
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            • Author by worrierking (August 26, 2009 9:19 am ET)
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              One point that the conservatives who back Beck fail to understand is that these companies don't care how many eyes their ads reach if the show they're advertising on is divisive and targets the majority of it's customers as un-American, socialists, marxists, communists, misled sheep.

              You can post all of the ratings you'd like to post but the only rating that matters to them is that the majority of the voters elected Barack Obama as their president. Those who are working to bring about his downfall are making accusations that appeal more to the fringes than to the center.

              Wal-Mart understands they won't continue to prosper by playing only to the fringe.

              It's not that hard a concept to grasp.
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            • Author by Übermensch (August 26, 2009 9:22 am ET)
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              again I refer to Bill Maher circa 2001/2002 about this very subject matter
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            • Author by lede39571545 (August 26, 2009 9:28 am ET)
                 
              I would argue, the "folks" will continue to shop at Walmart because that "undesirable" stores merchandise and prices appeals to much of the PWT republican base. Free speech allows me to say that.
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        • Author by bobmarley (August 26, 2009 3:55 am ET)
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          Part of the problem is that this chart is labled a "cable NEWS race".

          Strange, but I always equated "news" with journalism.

          With the exception of maybe Shepard Smith and Anderson Cooper, every show listed is an OPINION based show.

          In other words 9 out of 11 of the listed "news" shows, are simply give THEIR take on things. Problem is, there are too many idiots watching, and thinking "well. if they said it on the NEWS, then it must be true?"
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        • Author by worrierking (August 26, 2009 9:12 am ET)
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          You're a real piece of work. How much effort os involved if you steal thirteen lines from another site and paste them as your own.

          I googled the first 14 lines from your post, and got 656 hits. Your post matched most of the others including your punctuation and line breaks.

          If you had any integrity or good will left on this site, you just blew it.
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          • Author by pointofview (August 26, 2009 11:23 am ET)
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            Of course the ratings are cut and pasted. Did you think I counted the viewers for each show myself, or tired to make it look like I did? Of course not. They are released every week.
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    • Author by rebopine (August 24, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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      I love the picture of Glenn Beck crying, it goes with my mental image of him as a sad, whiney little boy.
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    • Author by seroquel (August 24, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
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      Pictures are a 1000 words, Dr. Matt. Thank you!
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    • Author by yumadlh (August 24, 2009 9:45 pm ET)
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      I thought we had free speech in this country no matter what is said and whom it hurts or defends. I guess free speech is out the window. What is next. I may not agree with what Mr. Beck said but WE in American should defend his right to say it. It is a sad day when intimidation, threats and harassment is driven by hate, discontent and class warfare by special interest groups. Also sad when the Constitution is used as a club and mussels speech. I guess Americans days are numbered. What will be left ?
      I would issue TS cards to all who boycott these stores, companies and not allow them to purchase anything from them, forever. When your speech is limited you will cry ATTACK. What has the minister been telling the congregation that Black Liberation is here and now. Am I confused. I really thought we were Americans and trying to better the nation not destroy it by class warfare. Which this is it and in your face.
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      • Author by newzhound (August 25, 2009 9:03 am ET)
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        "Mussels speech?" Is that pro- or anti-oyster?

        You are guilty of a false equivalence here. Would you support some nut's "right" to recruit thugs to burn down churches and synagogues and temples?

        On a more basic level, urging corporations to not financially support a person who calls the President of the United States a racist and hater of "white KKKKulture" is not a free speech issue. It's common sense.

        Mr. Beck has a perfect right to say stupid things. He doesn't have a right to do so on the public airwaves (for which Faux Noise pays nothing). And he doesn’t have a right to corporate sponsorship.

        This isn't the US Government censoring anyone, by the way. These companies are making a business decision - I think you'll find that covered in the Constitution in the commerce clause, not the First Amendment.

        Take another look at the video of Barney Frank straightening out a woman waving a photo of President Obama with a Hitler mustache drawn on it. She had been in a closed loop of "thought" for so long, she honestly didn't understand how very wrong she is. Unfortunately, you are in the same boat. And its taking on water rather quickly.

        And where did Black Liberation theology come into this? Do you really claim to understand that? Or are you satisfied to regurgitate the pre-chewed analysis of the right wing nutz ranting on radio and tv?

        You just toss that in there because it's something you heard about from someone, it appears Black folks are working in Color for Change, you hate President Obama, so you just try to add that little bit.

        It further shows you have absolutely no idea what you're writing about.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:53 pm ET)
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          Where did Black Liberation Theology come in? I guess you've been living in a cave for a few years and have never heard of Reverend Wright.
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          • Author by newzhound (August 25, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
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            Actually, Goofball, I have heard about the Rev. Wright. What I haven't heard from the right wing nutz is actually Rev. Wright. For some fifteen or twenty years he gave three one hour sermons each Sunday.

            Thousands of hours of sermons distilled into a few soundbites (by definition, taken out of context). Actually, I agree with most of what I heard.

            I do understand something about Black Liberation Theology, which I will venture to guess is a heck of a lot more than you do. But even granting the highly unlikely event that you do, what the heck does it have to do with Glenn Becks saying President Obama hates white people and white KKKulture?
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            • Author by mr. l (August 25, 2009 3:37 pm ET)
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              Starkravingmad appears to be the newest 'talking points' jack-in-the-box here...
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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              Well, the fact that you agree with him makes you a dangerous racist who is no better than a White Supremesist or a member of the KKK. You just exposed yourself.
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        • Author by jstephens005 (August 25, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
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          First, Obama made a racist comment regarding the Gates arrest. Calling the police "stupid" without knowing the circumstances, and even admitting he did not have the facts, leads some to believe he has a pre-conceived bias. If he had none, then he would have reserved judgement until having the facts. THAT is what Beck was pointing out.

          If you can address how someone WITHOUT facts can provide a judgement while referring to racist issues (inferring that he himself believed it was racist in nature), I would love to hear it.

          That said, Beck has a right to say what he did. Being on Fox News has nothing to do with it.

          For the disgusting human Barney Frank...the woman in question is an admitted Democrat. From the Weekly Standard:

          ...

          CNN's Larry King showed the above video of Barney Frank laying the smack down on a woman at a townhall meeting who compared Obama to Hitler. CNN left out the fact that this woman is a Lyndon LaRouche Democrat.

          In the full video (via Allahpundit), the woman says, "This policy is already on the way out. It already has been defeated by LaRouche." She also underscores her crazy LaRouchite beliefs by claiming that the U.S. has "30% real unemployment". No one disputes that LaRouchites are on the fringe -- but it's indisputable that they are fringe Democrats. They oppose Obamacare because they want a single-payer plan.

          ...

          And no, he didn't just "toss that in there" with Black Liberation theology. He is referring to the fact that Beck supported his argument by saying that it would be VERY difficult for someone to sit in a church pastored by a racist like Rev Wright for 20 years, even naming a book after one of his sermons that affected him personally...and not be affected. Rev Wright is a racist. He preaches racism. Would you sit in church for 20 years and listen to a hateful person if you didn't feel a connection? (assuming that you attend church).
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          • Author by funnymanpants (August 26, 2009 12:47 am ET)
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            >>First, Obama made a racist comment regarding the Gates arrest.

            No he didn't. Your point about LaRouche is bizarre and makes no sense, nor did you back up your wild claim that "They oppose Obamacare because they want a single-payer plan." LaRouche is a libertarian who would very much oppose a single payer plan.

            >>by a racist like Rev Wright for 20 years, even naming a book after one of his sermons that affected him personally...and not be affected.

            That's total ridiculous speculation. If you want to make an outrageous claim like Beck did, you have to have strong proof--not mere speculation.
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          • Author by newzhound (August 26, 2009 9:47 am ET)
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            Claiming that a LaRoach supporter is a "fringe Democrat" makes as much sense as claiming a National Socialist is a "fringe Republican."

            However that woman labels herself makes no difference. She is a nut and Barney Frank treated her as such. She lost any claim on respect when she started waving that doctored photo, and she got what she deserved.

            President Obama's statement that the Cambridge PD actly stupidly was 100% correct. To arrest a man in his own home for creating a disturbance (after the cop was in the home for what - 10 minutes?) is stupid. Period. The fact that Professor Gates was at home was on the record. What else has come out since then? Nothing that changes the facts of the matter.

            Yes, Mr. Beck has a right in the United States to say dumb things. I haven't read anyone claiming he does not.

            But corporations have no obligation to support him in the endeavor, either.

            And what exactly is the "white culture" (or, as I prefer, "white KKKulture") Beck says President Obama hates? Is Beck pushing White Liberation Theology?

            I don't think Rev. Wright is a racist. I think he told the truth and that makes some people uncomfortable. I also don't think it is possible to judge a person who gave 3 one-hour sermons every Sunday for fifteen or twenty years by two or three 30-second soundbites.
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            • Author by jstephens005 (August 26, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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              In my post, I clearly stated that the quote was from the New Republic, taken in context, and pasted between the ellipses. I did not make the claim, I was merely posting the information to stop the false labeling of the woman "nut-job" as a conservative. I happen to agree that her doctoring a photo of the President is wrong. I just want to make sure that everyone knows that particular nut-job is from the left, not the right.

              And...National Socialists (aka Nazis) are in fact on the left side of the spectrum, not right. The right side is for those who believe in individual rights, the left side is for those who believe in collective rights.

              Once again, you lack the facts on the Gates arrest. He was not in his home, he was in the front yard. He FOLLOWED the officer, berating him the whole time. He was warned to stop, he chose not to. The officer was responding to a reported break-in. Gates jumped STRAIGHT to racism as the reason, and no one in their right mind would say he acted properly. If you agree with Gates, then you are the racist. The facts, as you put it, completely backup my statement. Every officer on scene supported the action as 100% correct. Every citizen watching supported the action. So far, the only people who don't are racists (Gates), Obama, and the far-left zealots who won't admit it was wrong. Even the press dropped this hot potato.

              Please, PLEASE get a dictionary and look up the word racist. You will see that it means favoring one group over another because of race, not merit. If you don't think Rev. Wright is a racist, you are intellectually dishonest.
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              • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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                You claim that nazis are leftist and also talk about intellectual dishonesty--you DEFINE dishonesty.
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                • Author by jstephens005 (August 26, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
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                  You are completely wrong. Let me educate :)

                  On the left, you have dictatorship. On the right, you have anarchy. The US Constitution was written to place the country center-right, with some centralized function, but most power distributed to the people.

                  Nazis are the party of National Socialists. Socialists, by definition is state ownership of the means of production.

                  Quoting Wikipedia, "Nationalism refers to an ideology, a sentiment, a form of culture, or a social movement that focuses on the nation.[1] It is a type of collectivism emphasizing the collective of a specific nation."

                  So, its a state controlled philosophy focused on the collective of the nation.

                  That is the left side of the political spectrum.

                  The right side is focused on the rights of the individual, not the collective.
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                  • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
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                    You're not even close. The LEFT is focused on the rights of the individual. The talking point that because the word "socialism" is included in the name "National Socialist Party" has nothing to do with the whether the Nazis were rightist or leftist. It would be equally absurd to claim that Saddam's Republican Guard were Republicans just because it is in the name. Nazism is a type of fascism, which is definitely right-wing. Yes, one of the fourteen points of fascism is a "powerful and continuing nationalism," as is a disregard for human rights -- which people on the left have been fighting for decades. Fascism also protects and enhances corporations at the expense of the individual, an idea that people on the right have been trumpeting for years. Ever since the American Civil Liberties Union was formed, Conservatives have been attacking it despite the fact that it is an institution dedicated to protecting individuals and the Constitution. Selectively quoting a definition of nationalism -- NOT Nazism -- has nothing to do with anything. Furthermore, your false claim that extreme leftism is dictatorship and the extreme right is anarchy is not only another fundamental untruth, but it exposes a profound lack of understanding of politics. Political extremism is not a line, it's a circle; extremism on either end looks like it's "opposite" because extremism itself is the problem, not either right-wing or left-wing philosophy.

                    You're not only wrong, but your claims are completely opposite of the truth. You're either drastically uninformed or lying to make it look like neocons and Republicans are in favor of individuals rather than corporations and the wealthy, which is blatantly untrue.

                    The fact is that without liberalism, this country would not exist. Our entire form of government grew out of ENLIGHTENED LIBERALISM. Look it up. Pretending that Liberalism is unconcerned with individual liberties is absurd.
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                    • Author by jstephens005 (August 26, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
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                      Oh, Sorry...but you are wrong. And, somewhat ignorant of history.

                      The left is ABSOLUTELY, undisputed NOT for the rights of the individual. You are so far off, its absurd to argue further...but I will. The left, for example Obama, are for the betterment of the community OVER the rights of the individual. Wealth re-distribution takes from the individual, and gives to the community to make it better for all. It is socialist in nature.

                      The Nazis were socialist. Read your history. Hitler centralized the means of production. Do a simple Google search on "volks", meaning people, and you wll see the facts. It is absolute BY DEFINITION! The definition of the word SOCIALISM, and the historical facts that Hitler centralized production in the government. What do you dispute?

                      I agree that words do not always reflect the true nature of the organization. Your example is appropriate. But, for this case, Nazis...you are wrong.

                      For you to say that fascism is right wing exploits your ignorance. By definition (again, those pesky definitions), the core tenants of fascism are:

                      1. Nationalism
                      2. Authoritarianism
                      3. Social Darwinism
                      4. Social Interventionism - Indoctrination, Abortion, eugenics and euthanasia, Culture and gender roles
                      5. Economic Policies - National corporatism, national socialism and national syndicalism, Economic planning, Social welfare

                      This is straight from wikipedia (though other sources have the same information). None of these are focused on the individual. This is about the collective...and that is the LEFT.

                      It is you that have no understanding of politics. I have read a number of historical documents...including the writings of our founding fathers, that point out that left is dictatorship, and right is anarchy. Don't spew crap, read. Try, "5000 Year Leap" to start with. It focuses on the writings of Franklin, Adams, Washington...you know, the guys who founded this country.

                      That link you provided is some of the absolute worst garbage I've ever read. Look...I don't send you to right wing hate sites to prove my points. I say go read history books. If you read the crap on that site, you are an idiot. It was 100% garbage. Hell, not even wikipedia is that corrupted!

                      And again with your ignorance of history. You are NOT a liberal, you are a progressive. THAT is why the progressive CHANGED the term from liberalism to enlightened liberalism, because they believed that the rights of the individual do NOT overrule the rights of the collective.

                      People like you are ignorant of history, and have very shallow knowledge of this country in particular. Stop, STOP reading hate sites and open your mind!
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                      • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 8:37 pm ET)
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                        Your own ignorance of history is showing. If you have actually read a number of historical documents as you claim, you have not understood anything in them. I provided several links, apparently you only followed one, and you didn't specify which one (but I can guess). Your lack of follow-through shows, as does your unwillingness to face the truth. You are

                        In another post you claim to be surprised that Glenn Beck spews hatred and lies and you want people to take you seriously? Why? You can't even identify simple facts, you can't even accept that your own link on wikipedia states that the Nazis had more links to the right than to the left, and you pretend that you are in a position to lecture on history. You're not. You're fundamentally dishonest and have and either purposefully ignore facts you don't like or are unable to face them. Liberals have pushed through changes like civil rights laws, rights for the individuals; people like you have opposed them. You cry social engineering rather than facing the reality that institutionalized discrimination of any sort is the antithesis of individualism.

                        You're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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                        • Author by jstephens005 (August 26, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
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                          Your argument has broken down, and your last post provided zero additional information. Generally, this happens when I debate a progressive.

                          Your comment about a Nazi wikipedia entry is incorrect. First, I did not refer to a Nazi wikipedia entry. Second, I have CLEARLY documented that the Nazi party is left. YOUR idea that political affiliation is a circle is nuts. How can you be left or right in a circle? Please...if that doesn't show ignorance of the facts, I don't know what does.

                          And again with the ignorance of history. Lincoln...Republican. Civil rights was pioneered by the right. While the legislation was signed by a Democratic president, it was a Republican senator who pushed to get it signed. Upon signing, the president said, "We will lose them for a generation", referring to his fellow DEMOCRATS. In fact, the founder of the NAACP was in fact, Republican. Oh...and let's not forget that the KKK was founded by Democrats, and was commonly associated with Democrats, with cartoons depicting donkeys with "KKK" emblazened on the side. Hmmmm....

                          But, sheeple like yourself have blindly followed progressives without questioning. I pity you.
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                          • Author by historygeek001 (August 27, 2009 11:10 am ET)
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                            You have CLAIMED that Nazism is leftist. You're wrong. You ignore context when Johnson said that the Democrats would lose the South for a generation, it was because they WERE NOT LIBERAL ENOUGH TO WANT CIVIL RIGHTS FOR MINORITIES. They left the Democrats and became Republicans because they were against civil rights! You ignored most of my first post and missed my point about extremism (it looks the same on both sides of the political spectrum). You pretend that the Republicans in Lincoln's time and the Republicans today are equivalent; they aren't. You pretend that the Repbulicans have championed civil rights; they haven't. You conflate Socialism and Liberalism; they're not the same. You claim my argument has broken down; yours consists of saying the same thing again and again without regard for fact.

                            Deliberate ignorance like yours isn't worthy of pity, it's worthy of disgust. You're wasting my time.
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                            • Author by jstephens005 (August 27, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
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                              No, I have PROVEN that Nazism is left. I gave you the defintions. I gave you the history. I gave you references to review yourself.

                              And, you show your ignorance in saying the Democrats left the party and became Republicans. It doesn't take a genius to see that the south has only RECENTLY started leaning left. Look at the elections. Don't take my word... Besides, what idiot would think that millions of people would completely switch ideologies over a single issue? That's like saying millions of Republicans switched to being Democrats because Reagan gave amnesty to illegals. Besides, the Democrats HATED the Republicans BECAUSE they pioneered the Civil Rights legislation. Johnson did not fear the Democrats would become Republicans, he feared they would fracture the Democratic party, AND THEY DID for a decade or more. Educate yourself.

                              I don't pretend that Republicans championed civil rights. READ THE HISTORY BOOKS FOOL! It's not my opinion, ITS FACT. Geez...talking to you people is difficult.

                              Socialism is not Liberalism. I explained that. The views you claim are not liberal, they are progressive. Period. Even Hillary said that during the debates when someone called her liberal. Did you ever wonder why the LIBERTARIAN party is on the right? Its because the REAL definition of liberal is for individual rights...which is opposite Obama, FDR, and you.
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      • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:04 am ET)
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        Boycotts are exercises of free speech moron
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      • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 9:32 am ET)
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        "Amendment I

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."


        Beck is not being prohibited by the government regarding his free speech. This is a BUSINESS issue, not a free speech issue. Try reading the Constitution before you start citing it.
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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        So you don't believe in free markets? Companies have every right to spend their ad dollars where they want....apparently you don't believe in democracy and free markets.

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        • Author by puppienrainbows (August 25, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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          You obviously don't, Scott Johnson or Harley or whoever you are today. You believe a bunch of angry liberals, who don't like what they hear, should decide what or who people listen to. Glenn Beck won't be hurt by this. It's just like Terry Rakolta(sic) trying to put ' Married, with children' off the air, it became an American classic thanks to an uptight houswife who felt her utopian vision of American tv should be observed. It never works.
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          • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
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            I'm not a liberal and I wrote letters independently to Beck's advertisers asking them if they really wanted their products associated with the hate and lies coming from Beck's mouth. I just stated my opinion, it was the companies who made the decisions.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
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              You're not a liberal? That's hilarious.
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            • Author by jstephens005 (August 25, 2009 11:39 pm ET)
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              You honestly say you are not "liberal", yet say that "hate and lies" come from Glenn Beck's mouth? I'm quite familiar with his show...I'm very interested in the hate and/or lies you speak of.

              Generalizations like that don't benefit your argument.
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              • Author by funnymanpants (August 26, 2009 12:50 am ET)
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                >>I'm very interested in the hate and/or lies you speak of.

                link
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
                     
                  You want a link to his interests? I don't think we have that kind of technology yet.
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                • Author by jstephens005 (August 26, 2009 11:41 pm ET)
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                  Are you kidding me? The link you give me is a compiled video with leftist crap scribbled on it???

                  What is wrong with you? Calling Obama a racist does NOT constitute hate nor lies. He believes it, and was able to provide proof. That is not hate.

                  I'm so tired of criticism of Obama resulting in being called a racist. It won't stop me, but I tire of it. Your "Rules for Radicals" book must be worn out.
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              • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
                   
                If you're familiar with Beck's show then you hear his lies and hate regularly; pretending otherwise shows your own lack of integrity.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
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            if that is the case then why is rush limbaugh still on the air. lou dobbs? don imus? how about john gibson?

            why hasnt WND and human events been shut down?

            why are ann coulter and michelle malkin still churning out books?

            if what you have said were true then all of these people would be shut down. sadly....they aren't and continue to be around.

            good try but you have failed. its funny that your crying foul now when your chosen ones aren't in power anymore and cannot use fear to shred the constitution.....which they had done mercilessly and now it seems are the seeds of calling them to account for it. wish you buddies luck for dodging the torture prosecutions.
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          • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
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            I certainly support free markets and the decision for a company to drop their ads from Becky's hate machine is a free market decision. Apparently you don't believe in free markets because you hate the fact that companies are exercising their right to drop Becky like a fart in the wind. Adios. Will you start crying next like Becky?
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          • Author by Mickster (August 27, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
               
            Boycotting is also a form of free speech because it is a form of protest. That's the thing about free speech in this country, EVERYBODY HAS IT.
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      • Author by LaMan (August 25, 2009 10:49 am ET)
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        It seems to me, "free speech" is a one sided thing, here in the United States. Don't say anything about blacks or you will be ridiculed beyond belief. However, on the other hand, their little "pet" in the white house can do or say anything he wants to do or say. He reminds me of the time when I was a small child and my parents would take me to the circus. The thing I wanted to see was all the side shows, such as men swallowing swords or the half man-half snake. Of course, I had no idea at the time, it was all fake. However, I soon found out, it was not real at all, only someone faking the act. That to me is what O'bama is doing since he was elected to this office. However, since people are finding out just what a "fake" he is, things are changing and his pwople don't like it. I say, "more power to Glen Beck" and keep up the good work, my friend. You know all to well what you're talking about and someone will support your show, I know I will, Glen.
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        • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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          "Amendment I

          Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."


          Beck is not being prohibited by the government regarding his free speech. This is a BUSINESS issue, not a free speech issue. Try reading the Constitution before you start citing it.
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          • Author by Middle (August 26, 2009 2:34 am ET)
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            This is NOT a BUSINESS issue. It is business's catering to the pressure from colorofchange. In fact the name of this org. sounds racist to me, especially since it is common knowledge that colorofchange.org loves their messiah Obama. This connection and more of Obama's connections that are fact and from Obama's own mouth lead me to believe that this Organization is either just a bunch of brain dead liberals or racist radical communists or all of the above. I do know this, Beck makes a statement and backs it up with FACTS. I want Obama, democrats and republicans to do the same thing. If Beck was lying or misleading, Obama and his cronies wouldn't care what he said. We are witnessing the intentional destruction of this country by both political parties. We need to forget about party affiliation, band together and vote out ALL politicians currently in office. The political corruption has to stop!! It sure is odd that everyone that doesn't back Obama, his cronies and their radical bills and brain dead policies is labeled a racist or a redneck mob by MSM, etc. That is a FACT! Odd isn't it.
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            • Author by newzhound (August 26, 2009 9:50 am ET)
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              Beck stated President Obama hates white culture.

              How could he possibly back that stupid statement with FACTS?
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        • Author by political_left-religious_right (August 25, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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          It seems to me, "free speech" is a one sided thing, here in the United States.

          The issue of freedom of speech has already been answered. Sorry if you missed it.

          Don't say anything about blacks or you will be ridiculed beyond belief.

          This must be why the birthers, the mini-mobs, etc., are being silenced and cannot get any air time (/sarcasm).

          However, on the other hand, their little "pet" in the white house can do or say anything he wants to do or say.

          He's our president, you pathetic little buffoon. If you want to see a "pet" in office, check out the previous administration of Bonzo's. Furthermore, what has Obama said and done that you find objectionable, on the order of what has been said about him? Shall we cue the crickets now?

          He reminds me of the time when I was a small child and my parents would take me to the circus. The thing I wanted to see was all the side shows, such as men swallowing swords or the half man-half snake.

          That explains some of your psychological make-up, to be sure.

          Of course, I had no idea at the time, it was all fake. However, I soon found out, it was not real at all, only someone faking the act.

          There are still freak-shows in existence. Today they're called neocons and trolls and right-wingnuts, and they display their inhuman oddities with their bizarre mind-sets on boards like this one.

          That to me is what O'bama [sic--is a five-letter name too hard for you?] is doing since he was elected to this office.

          Since Obama has been in the public eye since 2004, we all knew what we were voting for. No one ever thought he was flawless (that "messiah" nonsense was an invention of your side). But guess what? The country as a whole decided they preferred him to the alternative, and elected him handily. Why are you in denial about the legitimacy of his presidency?

          However, since people are finding out just what a "fake" he is, things are changing and his pwople [sic] don't like it.

          No, the people who opposed him for irrational reasons are conjuring up more reasons to oppose him.

          I say, "more power to Glen Beck" and keep up the good work, my friend.

          You're such a friend that you don't know how to spell his name. How convincing. And if you honestly think that Beck's calling Obama a racist is an example of "good work," then I'd hate to see what Beck would have to do to actually earn your disapproval.

          You know all to [sic] well what you're talking about and someone will support your show, I know I will, Glen.

          That will sure make up for all those sponsors, huh? Frankly, I'm glad to see you here, because there's a chance you might actually learn something. But if all you can do is applaud Beck when he's performing at his idiotic best, and weigh in with frankly insane ideas about Obama, then I don't hold out much hope.
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          • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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            "The issue of freedom of speech has already been answered. Sorry if you missed it."

            When was that exactly? What was said? Who "answered" it and what was the question?

            "This must be why the birthers, the mini-mobs, etc., are being silenced and cannot get any air time (/sarcasm)."

            No, but he has a point. You can't criticize the president without being accused by at least a dozen people of racism, even with no evidence of such a thing.

            "He's our president, you pathetic little buffoon. If you want to see a "pet" in office, check out the previous administration of Bonzo's. Furthermore, what has Obama said and done that you find objectionable, on the order of what has been said about him? Shall we cue the crickets now?"

            Wow, you can't be serious. This president is practically immune to criticism except for a few rouge "crazy right-wingers" like Glenn Beck, apparently. What has Obama done that is objectionable? How about almost everything? I don't have enough space to list them all here.

            "Since Obama has been in the public eye since 2004, we all knew what we were voting for. No one ever thought he was flawless (that "messiah" nonsense was an invention of your side). But guess what? The country as a whole decided they preferred him to the alternative, and elected him handily. Why are you in denial about the legitimacy of his presidency?"

            Wow, his experience stretches back THAT far? Amazing. I have more experience than him and I'm almost 20 years younger. The "messiah nonsense" was created because you worship this man as a god for some reason. The country decided this because little to nothing was known about him before the election and people are easily distracted by this "hope and change" BS. When people think the president is going to pay for their gas and mortgage, you know they've gone of the deep end.

            "No, the people who opposed him for irrational reasons are conjuring up more reasons to oppose him."

            So, in your opinion, is it possible to oppose him for rational reasons?

            "You're such a friend that you don't know how to spell his name. How convincing. And if you honestly think that Beck's calling Obama a racist is an example of "good work," then I'd hate to see what Beck would have to do to actually earn your disapproval."

            I'm trying to see if I understand this correctly. People are racist for simply opposing Obama's policies, but he's not one for attending a racist church for 20 years. Is that correct? Would you consider Reverend Wright a racist or is it impossible to be black and be a racist?

            "That will sure make up for all those sponsors, huh? Frankly, I'm glad to see you here, because there's a chance you might actually learn something. But if all you can do is applaud Beck when he's performing at his idiotic best, and weigh in with frankly insane ideas about Obama, then I don't hold out much hope."

            If you should be worried about anything, it should be the combination of Obama's approval ratings dropping below 40% (which they will soon) and Olbermann or Maddow losing 1 of their 3 advertisers.
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            • Author by newzhound (August 25, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
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              I answered it, Dufus.
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            • Author by srichardson (August 25, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
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              Even if you take race out of the equation, it's very obvious that the right wing has a deep seated hatred for anything Obama. It's to a point of being pathetic and misplaced. It's time that the so called Christian right wing begin to act more like Christ and less like uneducated, hate-filled bigots. Obama was voted in by a majority of the people. The problem is the loud mouthed right wing make a lot more noise than the democrats and always have. It's the misplaced hate that is bothering me, not the fact that you disagree with Obama. Disagree with discussion of the facts, not with name calling.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 3:17 pm ET)
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                For the last time, it's not hatred. The right disagrees with his policies. I'm not saying some people don't hate him, but most don't. How about the hatred the left had for Bush? Was that OK?
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            • Author by War Dog 6 (August 26, 2009 1:05 am ET)
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              by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
              "If you should be worried about anything, it should be the combination of Obama's approval ratings dropping below 40% (which they will soon) and Olbermann or Maddow losing 1 of their 3 advertisers."

              WD6 Sez: I don't care who you are, now thets funny!! (mostly cause it is true) Hahahahaahha....
              Semper Fi,
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        • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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          and limbaugh and sarah palin and the rest of the neo con crowd can "fake" anything they want and not get called on it?

          get a dictionary and look up hypocrisy please.
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          • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:54 pm ET)
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            What did they fake? They called out on everything they do or do you just not bother to watch the liberal media operate?
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            • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
                 
              how about the death pannels were absolute crap. and betsy mccaughey, its progenitor, went on the daily show and got called out for it and made a fool of. and yet those two still are using it. hows that for a start.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (August 27, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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                What do you mean "were"? The health care bill hasn't even come out yet. Plus, it's "panels".
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        • Author by roseme (August 25, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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          Little "pet" in the White house? Hmmm, wonder what they called Bushy boy when Brown and Root got those oil contracts without any other bid to compete? What would you have called him? Not a "little pet" huh?
          You make me sick, no respect, none. That is what is wrong with America, not the President pal.
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      • Author by richmcc (August 25, 2009 11:05 am ET)
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        I find it interesting that you are upset that Beck's right to free speech is being trampled on by others exercising there right to free speech to disagree with him.

        You must have been really upset when Anti-Bush protesters would be limited to "free speech" zones by the police (government) or when someone wearing an Anti-Bush T-Shirt is thrown out of an event where Bush is speaking.

        Let's see, America's Days are numbered because an advocacy group asks corporations not to support racist, hateful and divisive speech, but are not when the government actually does interfere with free speech as was done at so many Bush rallies during the 2004 campaign?

        At Obama Town hall meetings people are allowed to carry signs comparing Hitler to Obama and even allowed to carry firearms? Yet America's days are numbered?

        I do agree that " It is a sad day when intimidation, threats and harassment is driven by hate, discontent and class warfare by special interest groups". Which precisely describes the Anti-Obama/Anti-Health care reform people who appear at town hall meetings simply to disrupt the meetings, shout people down when asking a reasonable question, and are then organized by the Health Care industry.

        By the way you keep referring to "class warfare". Which classes are at war here? The corporate class and a pro-civil rights against the Hate mongering wingnut class?

        Or are you simply using "class" as code for race?



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      • Author by newzhound (August 25, 2009 11:10 am ET)
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        @yumadah:

        "Mussels speech?"

        Aah - you're just being shellfish!
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      • Author by frankH (August 25, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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        Free Speech is important and should be preserved at all costs. However, choosing to buy from someone who supports Glen Beck does not impair freedom of speech. I refuse to buy from people who sponsor hate. Simple as that!
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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          Then why do you support Obama? He was a member of a racist, hatemongering church for 20 years. Oh, but wait, he didn't realize it, right?
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          • Author by newzhound (August 25, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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            Mr. Obama's religion is his business. Read President Kennedy's excellent speech on religion sometime (I believe he gave it in Houston before a Baptist convention - it's on the Internets).

            Why support President Obama? Well, the first reason is that he's the President of the United States. He won the election and deserves our support until someone else is elected.

            Second, he has some excellent ideas. He did inherit a huge mess. President Bush underfunded the Federal government and the Republican House and Senate grossly overspent. "No tax and spend" was their motto.

            Third, President Obama has considerable executive experience - far more than Gov. Bush when he ran for President, for example.

            President Obama has done the best he can to reach across the aisle and work with the Republicans. Weak, disorganized, shell-shocked and isolated by the poverty of their lack of new ideas (the Republicans' idea of health care reform was to pass a law that poor Terri Shavio was still alive) the only thing the GOP can do is say "No." They would rather see this nation do nothing than participate in any success for which Mr. Obama might receive a shread of credit.

            No wonder the Republican Senators are leaving the sinking ship like the rats they are.
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (August 25, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
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              That's because when health reform passes and people embrace it, the Republicans know they are kaput as a party. Just like after Medicare in the 60's.

              So instead of actually trying to help craft legislation, they've become the party of death panels, pull the plug on granny, death books, fear, lies, and most of all, NO.

              Party over People.
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            • Author by jstephens005 (August 25, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
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              The religion of the president is in fact a personal issue. That is not in question. What is...the message delivered from the church. Black Liberation theology is racist. It promotes a group of people based on skin color, not merit...therefore racist. That is the only part in question in this thread...

              I agree that we should support the President of the US. Now...that did NOT happen from the left during President Bush's terms. I can point to THOUSANDS of articles and video clips that prove it. But, supporting the position does not mean we support the policies. I absolutely cannot support Obama's policies. I believe they are extreme and very bad for our country.

              For your second point...you have a partial point. Bush was not a fiscal conservative. He did a very poor job with the budget. BUT, Obama and his supporters have used that excuse for 6 months. I know that economies don't turn on a dime...But, this is Obama's policies now. Take responsibility.

              But...he has NOT had excellent ideas. He has had Progressive ideas, yes. But, they have been met with extreme partisanship, which let's me know they are not in the best interest of the country.

              Your third point...what the hell? Obama had NO executive experience. NONE. A GOVERNOR is the highest executive office for a state. Obama has ZERO, and sure as heck not at a state level.

              Obama has not reached across the aisle. He has layed out a mandate, and told people to follow. EVERY single policy has been the same. According to nearly every poll, this is the most polorizing politician in history.

              The GOP, and more importantly, conservatives like myself, say HELL NO to Obama's ideas because they are BAD ideas, not because they came from Barack Obama. NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN has said we should do nothing...every one agrees that some change is in order. Just not this change.

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              • Author by funnymanpants (August 26, 2009 12:56 am ET)
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                >>What is...the message delivered from the church. Black Liberation theology is racist.

                Which Obama in no way has ever endorsed.

                >>But, they have been met with extreme partisanship, which let's me know they are not in the best interest of the country.

                Yes, they have been met with partisanship--from the right, which simply wants to weaken and defeat Obama. You can't be bipartisan when the other side refuses to act in the same spirit. How else can you explain the bizarre claims from the right that Obama is setting up death panels and promoting a death book?

                >>According to nearly every poll, this is the most polorizing politician in history.

                Oh please! Obama is polarizing in the same way that Clinton was--not because of his policies, but because of a deep hatred from the right that refuses to accept the fact that a Democrat deserves to rule.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
                 
              It's his business? So he belongs to a racist, hatemongering church and that's fine with you? I supported him until he started to fail, which he has, miserably. Did you support president Bush? I'm thinking you didn't. Obama may have inherited a mess but the goal is to fix it, not make it worse. What is Obama's "executive experience"? This I gotta hear.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 3:42 pm ET)
                 
              correct. and if you recall one thing used against kennedy was the fact that he was catholic. and nixon stoked fears that he would submit to the pope in all things. the same thing happened to Al Smith.
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          • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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            hatemongering church


            Prove it.
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          • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
               
            You're lying again. Obama's church is not racist or hatemongering.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
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              I guess you didn't hear the quotes either. Go look up Reverend Wright on YouTube. You may learn something.
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              • Author by historygeek001 (August 26, 2009 8:26 pm ET)
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                I'm from Chicago, I've been to the church, I am familiar with it, and taking a few quotes out of a 20+ year period proves nothing.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 27, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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                  Being "familiar" with it means nothing. Did you attend that church for 20 years? He wouldn't have made those comments if he didn't mean them. Are you saying he didn't mean them?
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      • Author by puppienrainbows (August 25, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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        Welcome to MMFA. "Free speech" has a curious definition here @ MMFA.
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        • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
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          No, it's just that some of us have actually READ the Constitution. This isn't a free speech issue.

          "Amendment I

          Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."


          Beck is not being prohibited by the government regarding his free speech. This is a BUSINESS issue, not a free speech issue. Try reading the Constitution before you start citing it.
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        • Author by political_left-religious_right (August 25, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
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          "Free speech" has a curious definition here @ MMFA.

          Which is why poor puppienrainbows never gets to write anything here. Wait a minute....
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        • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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          how is it curious?

          because most of us here disagree with the hate speech beck has perpetuated?

          no government entity got involved in this. it was people like yourself and me and everyone who did not like what beck had said and decided not to patron his sponsers anymore. its as simple as that. and by the way. as free speech as you could wish for.
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        • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
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          Welcome to teabagger "logic" where inbred hicks "think" advertisers leaving Becky has something to do with "Free Speech". Are you really this obtuse?

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          • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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            Calling people "hicks" displays your appalling lack of intelligence. If you think using the term "obtuse" somehow makes you seem otherwise, you are pretty funny, and not in a good way.
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      • Author by shryockke (August 25, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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        you misunderstand the concept of free speech. Glen Beck can indeed say whatever he wants to say. anyone can. the idea is that no one has to PAY Mr Beck to say what he wants to say. Freedom of speech does not guarantee anyone's right to get paid to speak freely. Mr. Beck can join any number of street corner preachers and soap box speakers and can freely speak about anything at any time. If advertisers feel that they do not wish to reward such behavior, they are not compelled to do so by any law or freedom whatsoever.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
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        free speech is fine

        problem is when you abuse that in trying to stoke fear and paranoia saying untrue things for the sake of one's own profit
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      • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
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        oh and another thing.

        there is no government involvement with beck and fox losing advertisers. this is other americans and businesses acting on their own accord.

        the first amendment prohibits the government from stifling free speech.
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (August 24, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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      ColorofChange did very good work here and continues on doog works with little demonization from the machine. So far, this of course, can't last.
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    • Author by quincytyrone (August 24, 2009 9:58 pm ET)
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      I think that Glen Beck is tryin to mobilize the movements that jim crow thrived from. unfortunately he and sarah Palins backers might just get him a invite fromthe underground white supremicist movements , since he's speaking their language
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    • Author by LettersToLiberals (August 24, 2009 10:55 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck should be stopped. What he made was a sexist comment, Barack isn't the racist.. Michelle is!
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      • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:07 am ET)
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        michelle is not the racist, you are.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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          No, she just hates the country. No big deal though, right?
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (August 25, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
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            Troll. Accusing the First Lady of hating the country makes you a troll, troll.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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              I guess that was someone else speaking that just looks an awful lot like her.
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          • Author by jonesjax2374 (August 25, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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            Okay Stark - you admitted your almost 20 years younger than Obama so you were most likely born in the 80s and probably dont remember real journalism. Beck should be tossed off the air for impersonating a NEWS program. He's a fear mongering, hate-speech frothing, untalented failed comic. Calling our President a racist was, indeed grounds for boycotting, if not firing. Is that INFORMING the people? That's just pigotry.

            Don't you want your country to be more intelligent than a bunch of morning zoo high school drop-outs?
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
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              Glenn Beck never claimed to be a journalist and please give me an example where he did. He has an opinion show. Let's see if I understand this correctly. Beck can't give his opinion about the president (regardless of whether it's correct) but the media and congress can rip Bush apart for 8 years and that's completely fine? Also, what's "pigotry"? That's not a word.
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          • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:31 pm ET)
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            Limbaugh and the rest of your ilk are the ones who want our President to fail. Traitors.
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      • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 9:33 am ET)
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        Nope, that would be you, buddy.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (August 25, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
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        Were you trying to be funny? (if so, you failed)

        Were you trying to make a point? (if so, you failed)

        The neocon in a nutshell, folks.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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        ok your batting 1 for 3 here today. one he was talking about the president. two the comment wasnt about sexism, it was about racisim. and three the first lady has nothing to do with this.

        again trying to drag the old rush limbaugh line about michelle obama being an angry black woman?

        i think you have a little problem LTL.

        though one thing i do agree with you is beck should be stopped. if he would be honest and comment on the news truthfully....then i would have no problem with him.
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    • Author by Bad News (August 25, 2009 1:11 am ET)
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      Georgy Porgy pudin Pie.
      Color of Change made Glen Beck Cry.
      Twinkle, Twinkle little Star.
      Tell another lie and watch the Advertisers go Far.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by donwelty (August 25, 2009 4:39 am ET)
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      It is nice to see companies putting values ahead of profits and at least in this case, devaluing stupidity, lies, distortions, and insane rants.
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (August 25, 2009 5:33 am ET)
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      why cant these companies just pull their adds off of fox news altogether? beck is not the only despicable person on that network.
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      • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (August 25, 2009 5:34 am ET)
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        ads*
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      • Author by boohooliberals (August 25, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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        The point of advertising is to reach the widest audience possible. Fox is the highest rated network that reaches 2.8 million people (compared to CNN with 1.3 and MSNBC with 1.1).

        This boycott of Beck is a futile effort and Im glad to see liberals wasting there time with this crusade. For every advertiser that leaves there are 10 more that want those time slots because Beck is one of the highest rated programs on one of the highest networks. Simple supply and demand.
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        • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 10:41 am ET)
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          2.8 million is less than 1% of the total population of this country. Nothing really to write home about. Advertisers would do well to advertise on programing with higher viewership such as Survivor [12.5 million], Jon & Kate plus 8 [10 million], etc. Get the hint?



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          • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 11:11 am ET)
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            So, 1.1 million is what, 100% of the population? We are talking comparisons here.
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            • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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              Irrelevant to what I said. I'm not defending any of the opinion networks. None of them have widespread viewership.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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                It is relevant because you are talking about how little 2.8 million viewers is in comparison to the population but MSNBC constitutes less than half of Fox. That's my point.
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                • Author by What9000 (August 25, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
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                  It's an irrelevant point. He's not arguing that MSNBC has more viewers than Fox. He's saying that compared to shows like Survivor and Jon and Kate Plus 8, Glenn Beck reaches a much smaller audience.

                  That being said, it would be a much smarter choice to advertise on... the shows which reach more of the population.
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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                    So what? So few people watch the news in comparison to mindless drivel? What's your point?
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                • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (August 25, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
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                  wouldnt it be a given that if 2.8 million is not a big part of the population than obviously 1.1 is not either? there is no need in pointing it out. you are obviously trying to divert the subject into talking about fox news and their obsession with big ratings when the discussion is advertisers. try and stay on topic.
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        • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
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          yes and if beck keeps this up then he will loose all of them too and others wanting to take their place will suddenly think twice before associating themselves with someone who pulls this kind of crap
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        • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
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          The point of advertising is to reach the widest audience possible.


          Apparently not since 33 advertisers and counting have dropped becky. oops.
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          • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:56 pm ET)
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            Although one must concede that a trailer park operator would reach his target audience by advertising on Beck's show.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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              Maybe they can add a third advertiser to the 2 that Olbermann and Maddow have combined. How would that be?
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      • Author by boohooliberals (August 25, 2009 10:32 am ET)
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        Just for reference:
        http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/179815-Cable_News_Ratings_Fox_News_Still_Tops.php
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        • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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          And they still, when taken in perspective, reach very few people in this country. Just like the other opinion networks.
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    • Author by beck3000 (August 25, 2009 9:25 am ET)
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      I am glad that stupid ignorant people have a place to share. Beck is American hero who speaks the truth. The truth may offend you small minded cool aid drinking socialist. Van Jones is a self proclaimed communist.
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      • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 9:41 am ET)
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        Me, too. Why are you posting here instead of freerepublic? That's where most of the stupid, ignorant people post. I'm sure they are missing you.

        Beck is a liar who stupid, ignorant people like you refuse to research. You just buy his shtick without question. You wrongly believe that you are a conservative because you watch Fox and agree with what is being said. Fox doesn't represent true conservatism. True conservatism isn't hatred and lies.

        Why you're bringing Van Jones into this is beyond me. First, I didn't even know who he was until people like you started bringing him up, nor did I know what ColorofChange was. I wrote my letters to the advertisers on my own because I'm SICK of the lies and hate which are being cloaked under the guise of "news" on Fox. Beck is one of the worst offenders. It's not news or truth, it's propaganda. I simply asked if they really wanted their products associated with this man's mouth. They apparently do not. Second, Van Jones has had nothing to do with CoC for over two years. If you researched Mr. Jones, you'd know that, but it's just easier for stupid, ignorant people like you to just believe EVERY SINGLE THING you hear Beck say.

        Go back to freerepublic, you'll be more comfortable there. They don't use a lot of big words and their posts are easier to read because they use the same four or five words . . . Obama racist socialist birth certificate.
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        • Author by LaMan (August 25, 2009 10:55 am ET)
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          Maybe you should watch msnbc news and their "fairies", Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman along with Rachal Maddow, (what ever she is). Now there are where a lot of false hoods are told, my frien.
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          • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
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            Why watch any cable opinion network? They all are simply presenting opinion, not news. Try using your OWN brain for a change . . . read and form your OWN opinions.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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              ya know who you should watch is john stewert.....he destroyed mccaughey the other night with truth.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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            got any proof that they are telling falshoods?

            something that isnt human events or WND or something of that ilk?

            anything please....just one?
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          • Author by jonesjax2374 (August 25, 2009 6:10 pm ET)
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            Fairies? God how old are you punks? This is pathetic.
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            • Author by Pinhead (August 25, 2009 7:47 pm ET)
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              I think the troll spray is wearing off, I think we need to re-spray this entire website. Maybe a troll bomb, too.
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        • Author by puppienrainbows (August 25, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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          Anyone can post here. Who are you to question why someone posts here? Just another arrogant liberal?
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          • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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            Did you read the post I responded to? I was just responding in kind to the post. READING COMPREHENSION is a WONDERFUL THING.
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            • Author by puppienrainbows (August 25, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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              It appears you were responding to beck3000 in which you questioned why he/she was posting here. It's not your choice! You then went on to denegrate beck3000 with "stupid" and "ignorant". 'Free speech' is often rewarded with blanket condemnation here. You can post your ideas, but instead of any kind of realistic dialogue, it's the usual name calling and stereo-typing. So, why bother with meaningful discussion?
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              • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
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                i could easily ask you the same question ive seen plenty of your posts with insulting and degrading laungauge that i have seen gotten reported for abuse by YOU.

                cloak yourself in free speech all you like. just dont come crying when you say something that gets you banned
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          • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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            Oh, and puppie, that would be an ARROGANT conservative to you. I've voted for more true conservatives in my life than you ever will. This isn't a conservative/liberal issue. This is a PHONY conservatism issue. The people on Fox are highly paid entertainers who preach a false conservatism. Apparently, you don't know the difference.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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            yes anyone can. unless you dont like what is said to you then you report abuse and get them booted right?
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 9:58 am ET)
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        Beck is American hero
        A guy who never served his country, doesn't possess a college degree, never held public office, and making a living as a far right partisan is "heroic"?
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 11:14 am ET)
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          Most of congress and the current president prove that having a college degree doesn't necessarily make you good at what you do. Oh, and did your hero Obama serve his country or hold more than a year or two of public office? You see, the difference is, Glenn Beck is just a radio host, Obama, with practically the same skill set is OUR PRESIDENT. That's far more dangerous.
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          • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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            Beck doesn't have a high school diploma, either.

            Oh, and Obama's not my hero, but he's one HECKUVA lot smarter and more honest than Beck.
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            • Author by thekaje (August 25, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
                 
              Beck DOES have a high school diploma, from Sehome High School in Bellingham, Washington in 1982.
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              • Author by shaggles (August 25, 2009 2:05 pm ET)
                   
                Beck is from the Soviet State of Washington?!?!?!?!
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                • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:39 pm ET)
                     
                  Beck has a GED? He sure seems like a complete moron. A big crybaby with no education, hey, perfect GOP leader!
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
                 
              So what? He has no power. He's just a radio host. His level of education is irrelevant. Rush Limbaugh doesn't have a college degree but is clearly very intelligent and successful. Before you accuse me of being someone that has a grudge against educated people, I am very educated. I just don't think it's required depending on what you do, nor do I feel that it makes you qualified to do what you do.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (August 25, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
                   
                Educated? Where, Bob Jones University?
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                • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:42 pm ET)
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                  He thinks being born in a lab makes him educated
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
                     
                  The fact that you aren't educated doesn't mean that I'm not, and your joke about Bob Jones University falls flat. I'm Agnostic. I'm sorry you feel bad about your lack of education but don't take it out on the rest of us.
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              • Author by What9000 (August 25, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
                   
                I would venture to say that people like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh do have a degree of power, as would be evident by the number of people that follow thier programs.

                Power doesn't have to be measured in money or an elected status. Words do have power, and its depressing to see this sort of power wielded like a machete, rather than a scalpel.

                And I would say that the level of education is relevant. Just because he is successful and knows how to reach people (charismatic intelligence) doesn't make him right.

                Being educated in your profession is incredibly important. And when your profession is giving opinion pieces on political issues, it is a great disservice not only to yourself but to everyone that listens to you when you are either not informed, or willfully misinformed.
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                • Author by jonesjax2374 (August 25, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
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                  Radio hosts do have a lot of power. Orson Welles scared a lot of people into thinking the earth was invaded. "Tea Parties" are organized and promoted by radio hosts who decline to note who's behind them. Telling seniors that the government is going to euthanize them is a powerful message. Beck appears to have little checks and balances, unlike our President. Beck may wear lederhosen and refer to Nazi-ism but he's closer to Julius Streicher than anything out there.
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
                     
                  Fine, but they have power for a reason and it's not because the people that listen to them are "crazy". It's because what those hosts say makes a great deal of sense. Your comment about being charismatic without being right is interesting as the current president has that ability down pat.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
               
            yeah radio host compared to a lawyer.....talk about apples and oranges
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
                 
              I'm talking about their jobs, genius.
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              • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
                   
                well by that logic beck should have run for president. if the skill set is so similar why didnt he run? i bet beck would have gotten all of maybe 1 million votes....if he was lucky.


                and another thing.

                last i checked the president wasn't trying to stir up fears and speaking hate speech.

                though maybe to your ears what the president obama says no matter what it is will be dubbed by you to be hate speech.

                granted what he said about the cops was a dumb move. but it cannot touch with a pole of any length (even the big lever that Archimedes said he would be able to move the world with) to what beck and limbaugh and hannity, and every person on the opposite side of the president have said.

                as i said before your comparing apples to oranges. cause if it was not so. beck should have been able to run and become president himself. but he didnt. and he never will
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                • Author by starkcr31 (August 27, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
                     
                  Who talked about Beck running for president? However, now that we're on the subject, he is far more qualified (a college degree does not equate qualification) than the current president and would be doing a far better job. Almost anyone would be. Obama is screwing up everything he touches. If you think your precious Obama isn't stirring up fear to get his broken bills passed with minimal opposition, you obviously aren't paying attention.
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          • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
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            You see, the difference is, Glenn Beck is just a radio host, Obama, with practically the same skill set is OUR PRESIDENT


            Becky never held public office and doesn't even possess a college degree. Nice try, but you failed miserably.

            Thanks for proving you do not possess a college degree either.

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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:41 pm ET)
                 
              I have two college degrees, how many do you have? I'm going with zero because no college would graduate you with your level of idiocy.

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        • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
             
          dont forget his past "sins"
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      • Author by shaggles (August 25, 2009 11:48 am ET)
           
        HAHA! I'm going to give you thumbs up because of 2 things:

        Leaving the article out of "Beck is American hero..."

        And spelling KoolAid "cool aid."

        How's the weather in New Dehli?
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      • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
           
        hero? how so?

        and as for truth. i cannot think that one thing out of his mouth has ever been true. and i have watched and listened lots of times just for good comedic laugh.

        careful throwing out that socialist kool aid drinking it could easily be applied to you as well.
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    • Author by camels (August 25, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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      So, I guess all of you forgot to read Obama's autobiography where he says that he doesn't like white culture. Although he may have changed, he admits (in a book that was only recently published) that he was a racist. In fact to make the point clear, he states it several times. Is it plausible that he still struggles with that? I know we don't like to hear it from Glen Beck, but no one caused a raucous when Obama said it himself in regards to his past.
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      • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
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        Did you read it or are you just passing along the e-mail?
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 3:07 pm ET)
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          No, I read the same thing. Did you actually read his books or are you just busy drinking the liberal Kool-Aid?
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          • Author by knowlies (August 25, 2009 4:57 pm ET)
               
            Oh sure. That's all the proof we need right there.
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            • Author by jonesjax2374 (August 25, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
                 
              Which book are you referring to? I have them both right here and don't recall that phrase.
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            • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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              I don't have to give you proof. I really couldn't care less whether you believe me or not. I just know what I read.
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      • Author by bintx (August 25, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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        Oh, and that would be ruckus not raucous. Guess your version of the e-mail wasn't spell-checked very well.
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          • Author by puppienrainbows (August 25, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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            I guess we can thank 'teachers' like you for the dumbing down of America. Obama wants to give teachers like you a raise. He wants to reward substandard performance.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (August 25, 2009 1:52 pm ET)
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              so students dont perform and its the teachers fault.

              couldn't be that the students are to blame? the parents?

              no its the teachers fault. yep always is.
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              • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
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                Well, looking at your grammar, someone screwed up.
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                • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
                     
                  Grammar was never my thing, its why i love Word and other programs like it.

                  History is more my passion of which i am very good at.
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                • Author by jediknight65 (August 26, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
                     
                  but them im also sure you would deride me for my studying of history.

                  i mean its not like it requires alot of work to do right?

                  research is done within a few hours with no effort.

                  writing is a snap.

                  and the first draft of anything is always accepted and published immediately

                  so no effort at all right?
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                  • Author by starkcr31 (August 27, 2009 10:52 am ET)
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                    No, I study history as well. Any field requires studying. My field isn't writing either.
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    • Author by mightymo (August 25, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
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      There is a segment of our population that loves watching train wrecks, the ugly and embarrasing personal parts of other peoples lives, the take-down of those envied, the fear that others are out to get them. Now you have a very strong base for shows on Fox.

      I can accept that there is a market for fear and loathing.

      What I don't accept is Fox peddling its "news" shows as News and its "journalists" as Journalists!
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    • Author by Rasheri (August 25, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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      How come Beck's ratings keep going up ??
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      • Author by fishergirlusmc (August 25, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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        I watched Glenn's show last night about the Debt Clock and the Green Jobs Czar. It seemed very informative and well put together. He also asked "are we hateful for asking questions of our government". Why shouldn't we be able to ask questions about what is going on in our country? That US Debt clock was frightening. We should all be very concerned about the debt we owe. Our entire government is broken and we should fix that first. They are spending OUR money at an unbelieveable rate. And Beck has railed against Bush in the past as has any real conservative. The perscription drug program is a joke, the expansion of government under Bush was a travesty as well as not protecting our borders after an attack on our nation. The voters of this country from ALL parties made a statement when they voted in Obama who campaigned as a fiscal conservative but made a complete 180. People are afraid of all these big government programs which have tremendous fraud and debt. Medicare/Medicaid has 20% fraud. Shouldn't the government weed out this fraud? If we did that, we could take the billions of dollars saved and insure the 30 million who are currently uninsured.
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        • Author by utahliberal (August 25, 2009 8:53 pm ET)
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          Who would deny Beck asking questions? What Beck is doing however goes way beyond civil discoures. It is an attempt to foster fear and hatred for those we disagree with. He is not interested in finding solutions to the major health care issues that we face, only in demagoging for the status quo.
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        • Author by dusteemusic (August 26, 2009 7:44 am ET)
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          All "talking points" aside, when a so-called news commentator speak hatred to his audience - *everything* else that he has to say is irrelevant and immaterial.
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        • Author by lather (August 26, 2009 9:58 am ET)
             
          The DOW is up 1500 point since the Election. Fixing Bush's mess cost money.. I would rather see pallets of cash going to the US economy then shipped to Iraq..
          Pass Health care and watch the Insurance Companies stop stealing.

          You think Beck is Informative?? His info ( what he claims as FACTS )
          is ALWAYS incorrect.. He is the Carrot top of Media.
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    • Author by starkcr31 (August 25, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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      I love how liberals have nothing better to do than criticize someone's personal flaws (cries a lot) simply because they disagree with you. I love that liberal open-mindedness and compassion.
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      • Author by dr. matt (August 25, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
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        I love how liberals have nothing better to do than criticize someone's personal flaws (cries a lot)


        So, are you're claiming you are a librul now? Ok. Run with it.
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        • Author by starkcr31 (August 26, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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          You couldn't pay me enough to say I'm a liberal, but I don't claim that I have compassion for everyone and turn around personally attack people. That's left-wing hypocrisy at it's finest I suppose.
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    • Author by welterwill998306 (August 25, 2009 7:55 pm ET)
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      Glenn is a smart guy and a geniusactor, rather you believe it or not. Everything he does is for ratings. He's not stupid enough to actually believe the crazy theories he has about this administration. Heis creating militia and right wing terrorist in a time where terrorist are our number one TARGET over seas. The people he's making come out publicly are really going to be big targets of the secret service. I hope they crack down on all these american terrorist, because beck is herding them out into the public eye.
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      • Author by heru (August 25, 2009 9:48 pm ET)
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        Beck is just another devil who longs for the return of devil supremacy
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      • Author by dusteemusic (August 26, 2009 7:45 am ET)
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        What does spreading *hatred* have to do with his intellect?
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    • Author by cw (August 25, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
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      Beck 2012!!!
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      • Author by lather (August 26, 2009 9:50 am ET)
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        Dink..

        Ya right! Maybe Beck & Palin 2012 to 2013 and a half!!

        Beck is a fool and is getting what he deserves!
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (August 26, 2009 1:43 am ET)
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      Fellow Matterers,

      Can we approach this with imagination, or stoop to G.Beck level? The network is still taking the same total to the bank. Plenty of wrong-talk wannabees are lined-up, or waiting for an e-mail. If G.Beck stays on, the network of tangled webs wins. See them spin. Fox may have the highest total viewership, but that tells me overall percentage. It seems to me, those citizens are scared of losing control. Same with G.Beck.

      Addsum,
      Ronin Kannushi.
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    • Author by bob345 (August 26, 2009 9:38 pm ET)
         
      I'm sorry, where is the hate? I just hear a warning
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