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GOP Noise Machine continues to claim "Cash for Clunkers" was a complete failure

August 28, 2009 1:23 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

Conservatives, led by an army of bloggers, announced months ago that the "Cash for Clunkers" program would be a disaster; that the government could never help spur car sales. Except that, of course, the brief program moved nearly 700,000 new cars off car lots during the traditionally slow summer months.

Rather than acknowledge they were wrong, or better yet, just keep quiet, right-wing bloggers are now in pretzel mode trying to explain how the stimulus program was actually, you know, a failure.

And I'm not sure anyone has made a lamer stab at it than Ed Morrissey at Hot Air: 

Now, what happens to the companies that make parts for these cars?  Under normal circumstances, people would replace parts as they fail while keeping the cars on the road.  Suddenly, the after-market parts industry has 700,000 fewer cars for maintenance.  And since Americans mainly traded American cars for foreign vehicles, that parts market will not bounce back for years.

Smooooooooth move. 

Of course! it's all about the after-market parts business. (Stop laughing!) Morrissey claims "Cash for Clunkers" was a disaster because 700,000 car owners are no longer buying spar parts.

Three points:

A) Did you get a load of those jalopies that were being hauled into dealers as part of the "Cash for Clunkers" program? Those were not the type of cars meticulously maintained by owners who spent lavishly each year on spar part. (Clue: they're clunkers.)

B) Does Morrissey think the new 700,000 care purchased this summer will magically never need spar parts? And if and when those 700,000 owners, even if they're foreign car owners, need spar parts, does Morrissey really think all those parts are foreign made? 

C) Does Morrissey know anything about the automobile industry?

UPDATED: Notice that Morrissey conveniently ignores this "Cash for Clunkers" nugget from the WashPost:

One auto analyst called the program a success, if only because his research showed that it was responsible for saving 39,000 jobs that otherwise would have been eliminated.

UPDATED: Hot Air Pundit also does not have a clue about auto sales:

Just like the housing market...How long until alot of these people who were driving a "Clunker" and are now driving a brand vehicle, suddenly can't afford their new car and start defaulting on the payments? Anybody? Did the Federal Government care to think that far ahead?...

Does Hot Air Pundit really think the "Cash for Clunkers" program meant that twice-burned banks loaned money to people who didn't have proper credit? That as long as people arrived on the lots with a clunker, that car dealerships were able to magically come up with financing, even for buyers who didn't qualify, and that all people had to do was sign on the dotted line and they got to drive off the lot with a car they clearly could not afford?

Seriously, is that how Hot Air Pundit thinks the program worked?

UPDATED: Hot Air Pundit points to this quote, in USA Today, from Edmonds.com CEO Jeremy Anwyl as proof that "Cash for Clunkers" was a failure:

"Cash for clunkers distorted the market in a way that benefited the industry for four weeks. Now, the payback begins."

But for a guy who runs a company that helps sells cars, Anwyl doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. Because four weeks ago when less than 250,000 "Cash for Clunker" cars had been sold, this is what Anwyl told CBS News:

"After that initial flurry, I think we'll see that those deals are done and then there won't be anything else to come in after that."

When less than 250,000 cars had been sold, Anwyl was telling reporters the program was a flop and that sales would immediately dry up. When three times that many cars were sold, Anwyl was still telling reporters the program was a flop.

Hmm, I smell an agenda.

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    • Author by pilotshark (August 28, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
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      Well think maybe we need more of these flops>>>>>>>>>> seeing how bad this one did not work.
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      • Author by Barry's Dealer (August 28, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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        How would the dealers who can't get paid rate this project?

        You don't think this was just delaying the inevidable? You don't think this was throwing a bone to the UAW, a temporary solution to keep membership happy a little longer so they don't revolt?

        I do believe Honda, Toyota and Nissan would consider this a success. I guess that's something.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (August 29, 2009 7:29 am ET)
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          I do believe Honda, Toyota and Nissan would consider this a success. I guess that's something.


          You would be right! I find it funny how the people here who cheer this on saying those manufacturers employ American workers so this was good, neglect the fact that ALL the foreign car companies employ NON-UNION labor! The only US company that made out on CFC was Ford. Not even Government Motors could turn a profit. What does that say for Barry?

          Japan Korea gain most from Cash for Clunkers
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (August 29, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
               
            Maybe if those american companies were poised to take advantage of fuel efficient desires by the buying public they might have done better.
            Nah, lets give in to Barracknophobia. It feels so good.
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (August 30, 2009 8:51 am ET)
                 
              Let's compare sales of SUV's and fuel efficient cars in America. One out of four new car sales are SUV's. That makes it the most popular type of vehicle in America (data between '95-'05). Now I know when gas goes up sales slow down and you can show me a month were Prius sales went up, but to say that the public was yearning for fuel efficient cars when gas was relatively cheap is just not true.
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              • Author by eweston8542983 (August 30, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
                   
                Come on a major part of american business is creating a demand fot the product.
                I'm sure that if an american auto builder was comitted to producing an excellant fuel efficient series of cars and trucks. They'd have also been able to sucessfully encourage american consumers to buy them. It was easy to build heavy gas guzzlers, and advertise them. They took the easy path and here they are.
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    • Author by dr. matt (August 28, 2009 1:57 pm ET)
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      So, teabaggers are concerned with the "after-market parts industry" but not the auto industry? Their backs must be quite twisted from all that spinning.


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    • Author by all your eyes (August 28, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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      They can't let the Democrats claim success on ANYTHING. They've done the math, and if the Democrats and Obama deliver on their promises to revive the economy, provide quality health care at lower cost to all Americans, or anything else on the agenda, Republicans are done for a long long time. So, even when a program is clearly, wildly successful, they do what the always do: tell you the sky isn't blue, and hope you don't look out the window to check for yourself.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (August 28, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
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        Well put.

        Because if you look out the window, you might see an illegal immigrant, an SEIU thug, an Obama SS battalion, or an ACORN employee.

        All fear, all the time.
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    • Author by Cannonball (August 28, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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      MMFA, how about a little more than a mere spell check. car-care, spar-spare...
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      • Author by kfraz43 (August 28, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
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        thanks - the last time I pointed something out, I got thumbs down.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 28, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
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      They also fail to acknowledge the other successfully achieved goal of the program: Getting a bunch of inefficient, high emmission vehicles off the road. 700K gas guzzlers no longer spewing carbon into the atmosphere.
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 28, 2009 2:39 pm ET)
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        Not to mention the national security issue involved with any impact on our oil Jones.

        Cash for Clunkers is one of the best examples of how easily the right wing media will take any possible scenario and use it to prove their point. And you can't blame them, as the average Republican will go right along with it.

        Imagine if nobody had traded in a clunker. That would have surely been a disaster for the program.

        What if only half of the available money was applied for? You know that would have been seen as a tepid response.

        And anywhere in between zero response and overwhelming response would have been framed as failure by the wingnut media, and millions of Americans are lazy enough to believe any of those explanations on any given day.

        On another note, a guy I know just opened a restaurant, and sold all of his food on opening night, and had to go buy some more to feed the remaining customers lined up. What a looser!
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        • Author by worrierking (August 28, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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          Get ready for the shidt to hit the new energy efficient fan.

          No really!

          Soon the government program to buy new energy efficient appliances is going to start. Rebates are going to be from $50 to $300.

          I'm getting the gubmint to pay for my new shouting tubes.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (August 28, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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            You're into karioke as an appliance?
            Do I want to know any details?
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            • Author by worrierking (August 28, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
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              Internet shouting tubes are a device I've been accused of using by the trolls whose posts disappear.

              If such a device were to exist, and I'm not saying it does or doesn't, I would not be at liberty to speak about it.
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              • Author by eweston8542983 (August 28, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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                That may or may not be very responsible of you.
                Some things man was not ment to percive.
                Hotdog production.
                An upright and honest neocon population.
                Hedgehog sex.
                A radio reception area without a handfull of of rightwing talking heads always availible.
                The invisible hand (leg, armpit, large intestine) of coorporate power.
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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (August 28, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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            Good, your old diesel-powered tubes are probably showing some wear.

            But I have my reservations about the Nanny State sending their thugs in to confiscate my appliances. I recently modified my trash compactor with a 40 ton pneumatic/hydraulic machine press salvaged from an old tool and die factory, and I installed a nitrous-oxide boosted engine on my ceiling fan to get me through the summer in comfort.

            I'm hoping to see the same outrage as was caused by the low-flo toilets that were incapable of handling the output of real productive obese-Americans.
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      • Author by Ecotopian (August 28, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
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        Acknowledging that benefit would mean admitting there are environmental problems that need addressing. And admitting that would, in turn, suggest that the all-wise and ever-beneficial free market can create unpleasant externalities.

        Reality and conservative ideology: separated at birth and a reunion highly unlikely.
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    • Author by New Frontier (August 28, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
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      All part of the right-wing's "Trash for Haters". Bring in your empty minds and they'll load 'em up with garbage.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (August 28, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
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      all the REPUBLICAN NOISE MACHINE does is lie and twist the truth to make REPUBLICANS look good and DEMOCRATS look bad.
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (August 28, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
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      Now, what happens to the companies that make parts for these cars? Under normal circumstances, people would replace parts as they fail while keeping the cars on the road. Suddenly, the after-market parts industry has 700,000 fewer cars for maintenance. And since Americans mainly traded American cars for foreign vehicles, that parts market will not bounce back for years.

      Here, let me help him with that, since I make car parts for the not so big three and the foreign domestics.
      The only people who MIGHT be hurt by this are the salvage yard owners who can't strip the drivetrain out and resell it. Everything else will still be used just like before. As far as aftermarket parts, the suppliers, like myself, will never notice the difference. Service order parts make up a small part of our market, and we would do without them if we could. There are the rebuilders (alternators, etc) that are out there, no effect on them, and the specialty after market suppliers, no effect on them either. No way that losing these 700,000 cars is going to hurt the auto supply industry.

      If I have anything to worry about, it is the crazy orders that I am getting from GM. They seem to think this market blip (cash for clunkers) is going to continue. Please, buy all the parts from me that you want but; use some common sense. We are not out of the recession yet and car sales are not going to return to "normal" levels probably for a couple of years.
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