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When will MSNBC learn to stop aiding liars?

September 10, 2009 12:03 pm ET by Jamison Foser

MSNBC has been paying much more attention to Rep. Joe Wilson -- the Republican congressman who yelled "You lie" during last night's presidential address to congress -- this morning, at the expense of actually covering health care policy.  No surprise, really, but it doesn't serve their viewers well.

Even worse, MSNBC just aired comments from Wilson earlier this morning in which he reiterated his claim that President Obama isn't telling the truth about whether proposed health insurance reforms would cover those who are in the country illegally.  

Wilson is wrong; Obama is right.  But that wasn't made clear to MSNBC viewers.  MSNBC aired Wilson speaking, without interruption, for more than two minutes. During those two minutes, Wilson claimed again and again that illegal immigrants would be covered, referring to amendments and what he claims are third-party validators of his position.  MSNBC's debunking of Wilson consisted entirely of Tamron Hall saying -- a full minute after the clip of Wilson ended -- "there's also been a number of fact-checkers who said that Congressman Wilson is wrong, that there was nothing to indicate." 

That's it.  MSNBC played Wilson going on for two minutes about amendments and the Congressional Research Service validating his position, then "debunked" him by saying "there's also been a number of fact-checkers who said that Congressman Wilson is wrong, that there was nothing to indicate."  (That's the full sentence, by the way: Hall just stopped mid-thought, not making clear what Wilson was wrong about.)

How does that segment look to a typical viewer?  I suspect many viewers -- particularly those who lean to the right -- come away from the segment believing Wilson.  He seemed to be offering specifics, he claimed to have the support of the Congressional Research Service, and the "rebuttal" of him was laughably vague; it wasn't even a full sentence.  And it came well after viewers saw Wilson's claims.

It's bad enough that MSNBC is allowing Wilson's outburst last night to drive the day's discussion of health care; it's indefensible that in doing so they are doing such a poor job of debunking his underlying claims.

UPDATE: Just 15 minutes after the segment about Wilson, MSNBC is right back at it, playing a clip of him and devoting a large chunk of their health care coverage to this sideshow.  And how long do you think it'll be before MSNBC anchors express shock that the American people don't understand health care?  This. Is. Why.

UPDATE 2: ... And 8 minutes later, more focus on Wilson.

UPDATE 3: At least two more segments have mentioned Wilson, bringing the total to at least four -- in the past hour alone.

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    • Author by shaggles (September 10, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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      I was watching the speech and I didn't even notice the outburst. I may have been in the kitchen at the time but it seems to me like it wasn't really all that important. Wilson has apologized and the press should just drop it. By playing it over and over and analyzing it as though it were a reasoned argument rather than a childish outburst they are giving it a credibility that it doesn't deserve.
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    • Author by pete592 (September 10, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
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      "When will MSNBC learn to stop aiding liars?"

      When MSNBC finally becomes the hotbed of liberalism that it's alleged to be.
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      • Author by calvin071761 (September 10, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
           
        What Mr. Wilson was said at the wrong time. That doesen't make his statement wrong.
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        • Author by pete592 (September 10, 2009 6:16 pm ET)
             
          Oh, yeah, that's right.

          THIS is what makes Mr. Wilson's statement wrong...

          H.R. 3200 Sec 246 - NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

          Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
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      • Author by ronbo (September 11, 2009 1:03 am ET)
           
        "When will MSNBC learn to stop aiding liars?"
        When they stop running Joe Scarborough
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 10, 2009 12:57 pm ET)
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      This would be easy for MSNBC to counteract. You have Mr. Wilson saying his bit, and then bring on someone who actually knows what he or she is talking about to debunk what Wilson is saying.

      There is nothing in the bill, perceived, or otherwise, that would allow federal money to be spent on illegal immigrants.

      I mean, this isn't rocket science (in this case) to understand what is written there.
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      • Author by calvin071761 (September 10, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
           
        LIER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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        • Author by wyldwoman007 (September 11, 2009 11:42 am ET)
             
          When the word you're using is followed by many exclamation points, you should probably make sure that the word you're using is spelled correctly. The word is "liar."
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    • Author by bjean64013497 (September 10, 2009 1:22 pm ET)
         
      It isn't in their interest to completely debunk the the misinformation campaign! Its all about ratings! If they debunk it ends the controversy, they really don't want to do that! The mainstream media is not interested in telling the truth or for that matter reporting the truth, they are about ratings and sensationalism.
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    • Author by NMFreelancer (September 10, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
         
      While addressing Wilson's "You lie!" heckle after the speech, both Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, on their respective shows, added the context of reality to Wilson's lie by reading the provision in one of the proposed bills which expressly forbids undocumented immigrants from receiving the health care subsidy. Olbermann, in his style, looked directly into the camera and told Rep. Wilson, "You lie." Wilson issued his apology for the outburst before Olbermann's show ended, and Olbermann had to point out the lie of the apology because Wilson had written that he disagreed with the President's comments about illegal immigrants being excluded.
      Ed Schultz pointed out the lie of Wilson's lie on The Ed Show as well.
      It's too bad that bringing the context of reality into an argument is considered a 'liberal' idea. Is the truth 'liberal'? And, why can't the kids at MSNBC follow the example provided by the grown-ups at the same network?
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      • Author by goesto11 (September 10, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
           
        In answer to one of your questions...

        Yes, the truth is "liberal."

        That wasn't always the case, but it is today.
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    • Author by slimjim66 (September 10, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
         
      Last night the outburst a big plus for rep. joe wilson , made
      me feel like the apology was part of the show . $100,000 payoff
      to stand up for insurance lobbiest and call President Obama a
      Liar . campaign funds received after that outburst PRICELESS
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