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Stuart Taylor: Sure, we tortured, but those responsible have suffered enough -- they've been picketed!

September 14, 2009 11:04 am ET by Jamison Foser

National Journal's Stuart Taylor (whose legal analysis is, quite inexplicably, taken very seriously by the Beltway media) acknowledges that the Bush administration tortured detainees, but argues that those responsible have already "suffered" enough for their misdeeds.  See, they've been called names, and their public appearances have been picketed:

Of course, when all is said and done, there is little doubt that some CIA detainees were tortured. This is a stain on our nation's honor that should never be repeated. But the responsibility was so widely diffused, across such a large number of honorably motivated officials who tried (and sometimes failed) to stay within the law, that it makes no sense to seek to atone for the nation's sins by singling out individuals for bar discipline or other punishment.

This is especially true when those individuals have already suffered greatly from being trashed as "war criminals," picketed at public appearances, stalked by grandstanding Spanish judges, and otherwise harassed across the country and around the globe.

Sure, John Yoo said it was fine with him if George W. Bush wanted to order interrogators to crush a child's testiclesBut the man has been picketed!  What more must he endure?  Leave him alone!

Oh, and Taylor worries that a torture "truth commission" might become "adversarial":

The sort of fact-finding "truth commission" that many have advocated could report on what was done and the lessons learned -- although it could do more harm than good if such a panel conducted the sort of adversarial hearings that would become a public circus.

Yeah, we wouldn't want anyone to raise their voice to a guy who said it is OK to crush a child's testicles.  That would be ... Rude.  Or something.

Once again: Who cares what Stuart Taylor thinks?

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    • Author by The_Cat (September 14, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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      This article by Mr. Taylor is tantamount to saying that they had done nothing wrong in torturing people. Charlie Manson? Oh, yeah, he killed some people, you know, but he's suffered a lot. Look at his childhood, just as one example.

      You see, Mr. Taylor, this is exactly the kind of turn-the-perpetrator-into-the-victim argument that the liberals used to get pounded for by the conservatives. And here the conservatives are, dusting off an argument they once loathed (and still do if comes to minorities or the poor), and using it to defend 'patriots' who forever besmirched the honor of America by torturing people. Further, they tortured, not to stop some ticking clock scenario, but because they wanted somebody, ANYBODY, to say that there were links between 9-11 and Iraq, or al Qaeda and Iraq. Anything to justify a completely illegal and unjust war. A war which, in case anyone is keeping track, cost twice as much as picking up the tab for the entire nation's health insurance, and from which we as a people derived absolutely no benefit.
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    • Author by dmhack (September 14, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      Geesh, having people yell at you and call you names is the same as torture? Talk about cry babies.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (September 14, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
           
        dumhack your ignorance is showing!
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        • Author by mattcable250650 (September 14, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
             
          dmhack, you might try placing the semi- sorta HTML code after your comment like [/snark] in order to tell folks like our irony-impaired congero6189599 that you're joking.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (September 14, 2009 11:41 am ET)
         
      The same people who couldn't find anything too silly to investigate Clinton for by issuing over 1,000 subpoenas cannot see the merits of investigating those that tortured.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 14, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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      This is a stain on our nation's honor that should never be repeated.

      This is the sole gold nugget of wisdom in this asshat's entire river of sewage.

      And the only reasonable conclusion one can reach upon accepting the premise of this lone piece of gold is that it is exactly for this reason that we must convene a committe, let them have their hearings and then PROSECUTE THOSE RESPONSIBLE.

      We will never regain the moral high ground, and never again be the greatest country in the world, or indeed even a great country unitl we do.
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    • Author by mattcable250650 (September 14, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
         
      ...honorably motivated officials who tried (and sometimes failed) to stay within the law...

      See, this statement really bothers me. Do we know that CIA officials "tried...to stay within the law"?!?!? Are we simply, perhaps, guessing that maybe they sorta, kinda tried to "to stay within the law"? I'd be happy to go with the statement that CIA personnel "tried...to stay within the law" if reporters would go to the trouble of providing, y'know, evidence instead of just making wild-arse guesses and proof-free presumptions to that effect.
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    • Author by shaggles (September 14, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
         
      I take issue with the phrase "honorably motivated." From what I've read torture is rarely used to gather intelligence but rather to break the subject and get him to confess or simply to punish him. There's nothing honorable about that. Not that torturing someone to gain intelligence is honorable either but if you're just doing it because "they" attacked us you really haven't got a leg to stand on.
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    • Author by shintao (September 15, 2009 2:36 am ET)
         
      I am just a little perturbed when these apologists coveniently forget to mention that at least 26 innocent detainees (no trials)were tortured to death, or that others were raped and mutialated. And someone in the top chain of US command ordered that done to human beings.
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