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FreedomWorks discredited on protest crowd size, but CNS touts its numbers anyway

September 14, 2009 12:17 pm ET by Terry Krepel

The malady of inflated attendance numbers for Saturday's anti-Obama protest continues to spread throughout the conservative media world. A Sept. 14 CNSNews.com article by Fred Lucas states:

Adam Brandon, spokesman for Freedom Works Foundation, one of the main sponsors of the event, estimated the crowd at 150,000. But on Sunday, the group's Web site estimated that hundreds of thousands of people turned out.

In fact, the closest thing to an official estimate comes from the Washington, D.C., fire department, which reported a turnout of 60,000 to 70,000. But Lucas didn't report that -- or the fact that FreedomWorks already has a record of making false assertions about turnout numbers. ABC traced a claim that it had reported that more than 1 million attended the rally -- ABC reported no such thing -- to FreedomWorks president Matt Kibbe.

Lucas later uncritically noted that "High Caliber, a conservative rapper," said, "I've done tea parties for 500 people. But not 500,000 or whatever it is we've got here." Because rap artists, unlike those big government fire departments, are accurate estimators of crowds, apparently.

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    • Author by DellDolly (September 14, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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      Yeah, the leader of FreedomWorks is now claiming that he had a dead iPhone and was relying upon tweets seen on other people's phones for his statement about ABC's crowd estimate.

      He didn't purposely mislead anyone.

      And I have a bridge for sale.
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    • Author by The_Cat (September 14, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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      All of which blathering still fails to address the point that when 100,000 people protested the Iraq war, it was definitely not newsworthy, and actually treasonous. If fewer people show up to a rally sponsored by a conservative lobbying firm, as long as the President they're opposing is a Democrat, then that IS newsworthy, and it's NOT treason.

      I'm just so glad the 'liberal media' doesn't have a 'double standard'.
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    • Author by Meremark (September 14, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
         
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      counting tiny bubbles in their minds inside their bubble

      It's the disconnect. It has totally gone beyond 'not credible' and out far away to some TVzoo where one goon in a glass cage is talking on the intercom to the small group of gawkers in the same one building. Which is a waste of a coast-to-coast TV channel ... switch their camera to black and take the channel back, recycle the resource to something somebody watches.

      They LIE more and dig their LIARS pit deeper. Which stinks too much to lure anyone to fall into it anymore, and attrition leaves fewer and fewer cretins at the bottom. Dam they're dum
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    • Author by Ravensfan (September 14, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
         
      I was at the anti-big government rally on Saturday in Washington,DC. I was at the Ravens game at M&T Stadium in Baltimore with a reported 71,199 fans in attendance.

      I can assure you, the fire department in DC was not counting the crowd that was "outside" of the circle on the west lawn of the Capitol building. Apparently they didn't count the crowd that was on the west side of the Capitol reflecting pool, nor the south north lawns. Did they count those crossing over 3rd Street, flowing onto the main mall between the Capitol and the Washington monument and up to the entertainment tent for the NCNW Family reunion, nor those continuing to come off the metro trains until 3:00pm in the afternoon?

      I can also assure you the other bloggers here don't or won't leave their computer chairs for a cause they believe in, either.
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    • Author by fishergirlusmc (September 14, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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      I heard on CSPAN that they are going to replay the march tonight on CSPAN TWO. Perhaps MMFA can watch it and let us know the real count tomorrow.
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      • Author by peace4all (September 14, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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        we already have the counts, they were provided by the dc fire department and the park service. these groups have been historically accurate when estimating crowd size. so unless you think that other protests were actualy much larger than reported i guess were going to have to go with the official numbers.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (September 14, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
           
        It's already been counted. Try to keep up.
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      • Author by PurpleState (September 14, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
           
        Okay, we'll admit it. We're not sure how many there are that attended it, due to the conflicting reports.

        But it's not a million.

        And a hundred thousand's iffy too.
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (September 14, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
         
      And, lo and behold, whenever someone does a search of the web they'll come across the links to the false information as proof of the attendance. Conservative media at work.
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