A President was killed the last time right-wing hatred ran wild like this
September 18, 2009 9:10 am ET by Eric Boehlert
That being John F. Kennedy, who was gunned down in Dallas, of course.
I've been thinking a lot of Kennedy and Dallas as I've watched the increasingly violent rhetorical attacks on Obama be unfurled. As Americans yank their kids of class in order to save them from being exposed to the President of the United States who only wanted to urge them to excel in the classroom. And as unvarnished hate and name-calling passed for health care 'debate' this summer.
The radical right, aided by a GOP Noise Machine that positively dwarfs what existed in 1963, has turned demonizing Obama--making him into a vile object of disgust--into a crusade. It's a demented national jihad, the likes of which this country has not seen in modern times.
But I've been thinking about Dallas in 1963 because I've been recalling the history and how that city stood as an outpost for the radical right, which never tried to hide its contempt for the New England Democrat.
Now, in this this month's Vanity Fair, Sam Kashner offers up in rich detail the hatred that ran wild in Dallas in 1963. To me, the similarity between Dallas in 1963 and today's unhinged Obama hate is downright chilling.
Kashner's fascinating cover story actually chronicles the professional struggles of writer William Manchester who was tapped by the Kennedy family, after the president's assassination, to write the definitive book about the shooting. The Vanity Fair articles details the power struggles, and epic lawsuits, that ensued prior to Manchester's publication.
But this unnerving passage from VF caught my eye. In it, Kashner retraces Manchester's step as he researched his book. It's unsettling because if you insert "Obama" for every "Kennedy" reference, it reads like 2009:
Manchester also discovered that Dallas “had become the Mecca for medicine-show evangelists … the Minutemen, the John Birch and Patrick Henry Societies, and the headquarters of [ultra-conservative oil billionaire] H. L. Hunt and his activities.”
“In that third year of the Kennedy presidency,” Manchester wrote, “a kind of fever lay over Dallas country. Mad things happened. Huge billboards screamed, ‘Impeach Earl Warren.’ Jewish stores were smeared with crude swastikas.…Radical Right polemics were distributed in public schools; Kennedy’s name was booed in classrooms; corporate junior executives were required to attend radical seminars.”
A retired major general ran the American flag upside down, deriding it as “the Democrat flag.” A wanted poster with J.F.K.’s face on it was circulated, announcing “this man is Wanted” for—among other things—“turning the sovereignty of the US over to the Communist controlled United Nations” and appointing “anti-Christians … aliens and known Communists” to federal offices.
And a full-page advertisement had appeared the day of the assassination in The Dallas Morning News accusing Kennedy of making a secret deal with the Communist Party; when it was shown to the president, he was appalled. He turned to Jacqueline, who was visibly upset, and said, “Oh, you know, we’re heading into nut country today.”
Manchester discovered that in a wealthy Dallas suburb, when told that President Kennedy had been murdered in their city, the students in a fourth-grade class burst into applause.
Today, conservatives are expressing outrage that Rep. Nancy Pelosi had the nerve to raise concerns about the onrush of violent political rhetoric. The Noise Machine claims it has no idea what Pelosi's talking about. But the truth is, America's most famous bouts of political violence (i.e. JFK, Oklahoma City, etc.) have always been accompanied by waves of radical, right-wing rhetoric. Given that history, the GOP's insistence that the hate now filling the streets couldn't possibly inspire violence seems woefully naive.












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Baseless? I refer you to Dr. Killer, the baby killer. Or the guy who shot up the church and left a note saying he wanted to kill all liberals in Goldberg's book.
Face it. The Republican party is the home base for liars and racists, and apologists for liars and racists.
Wow! Wasn't it at all painfull pulling such a big number out of your ass?
And, as HotAir points out, Boehlert appears to be attempting to mislead his readers: he's not disclosing the Oswald was quite left-wing.
P.S. If any HotAir readers want to twist Ed or AP a bit, see if they'll discuss this clear case of judicial bias:
http://24ahead.com/judge-clay-land-shows-pro-obama-bias-dismissing-orly-taitz-b
No, stark, your streak is still alive. You really have trouble seeing things in anything but absolute, all-or-nothing terms, don't you?
OT, I saw your comment on the other thread (comments closed)re: entrapment. I wasn't as clear as I could have been;
Whether video is admissible as legal evidence, especially in a situation where no crime has been committed,is irrelevant to an issue largely affected by public opinion when that video is edited and shown on a national "news" channel repeatedly.
Is that easier to understand?
Yup, and if someone makes an attempt on the presidents life, I am sure all the right wing blow hards will be sure to point out that they
"never actually told someone to do such a thing".
"...fomenting violence... ... how exactly does that equate with someone wanting the President assassinated?"
That´s about the line of logic that will show up after the worst has happened.
Plus: Re-read (or read?) the Rabin asasination. It happenend along the very same spiral of violence.
However, there are people out there that are calling for the death of President Obama, and there are primary leaders in the form of extreme Christian pastors. I do worry that the religious right might follow that path and believe that they would be doing "God's work".
Fishergirl linked to a site that has quite a few photos of Bush protesters using death imagery. I don't think that's the most rational way to express disapproval, even if it's meant purely as hyperbole (and I think many on the right and left use it more metaphorically than literally).
The anti-Bush stuff was different in one way at least; Most of the killing imagery was in response to war crimes and death due to his actions, whether right or wrong, at least it was suggesting a death sentence for murder. The hatred of Obama seems to stem much more from just not liking him, and being sore losers.
The big difference to me is that, while there were individuals carrying these signs during the Bush years, there were no major media outlets egging them on.The Democratic party leaders were not pushing a slightly cleaned up version of the "Death to Bush!" sentiments.
I don't think GOP leaders, whether in elected office or the EIB studio, want murder. Neither do I think a guy who goes out for 10 or 15 drinks and drives home at top speed in the rain wants to kill anybody, but he's not doing much to prevent it.
1. Oswald was an upper-case Communist. He defected to the USSR. Somebody paid his way there and back and it wasn't the VRWC. Gee I wonder who is was????
2. Killing Kennedy made him into a sainted martyr and caused the Great Society legislation to be passed which entrenched the poverty pimps and ensured that millions of poor would stay right where they are courtesy of the beleaguered tax payers and led to Johnson's complete mis-management of the Vietnam which caused ten of millions of deaths including over 50,000 of our soldiers.
3. If Obama continues to show himself a totally incompetent narcissist, lefties might put out of the way if they can set up some Larouchie other nutcase to take the blame.
4. The right has absolutely nothing to gain by removing Obama from office other than legally by discrediting and impeaching him for gross corruption.
I agree. It is reckless and a blatant attempt to stifle any and all criticism of the Obama admin. Each time I think the radical left can not sink any lower, they simply develop a new standard of slime. These are the same people mind you who shouted down President Bush at ever turn, engaged in horrible and hateful speech, and put the President on wanted posters. MMFA has sunk to a pathetic new low here.
The quietest sound in the world is one troll agreeing with another. It is, after all, patting the back... of an empty suit.
It is reckless and a blatant attempt to stifle any and all criticism of the Obama admin.
Since you obviously don't know better, I'll have to point out a basic truth about liberalism--we welcome dissenting viewpoints. We think it's not only healthy, but vital to a functioning democracy.
Each time I think the radical left can not sink any lower, they simply develop a new standard of slime.
As opposed to the people on your side, who are keeping things honest, fair, and above reproach. Um, yeah.
These are the same people mind you who shouted down President Bush at ever [sic] turn,
Bush hardly ever, if ever, saw a protester during his reign of error. When did he ever get "shouted down"? Please provide a link to a credible site; for some reason, I don't think your word alone will do.
engaged in horrible and hateful speech, and put the President on wanted posters.
Examples, please. See previous comment.
MMFA has sunk to a pathetic new low here.
Folks, our friend pointless has sunk to a pathetic new low here.
You had to be laughing as you typed that. The entire goal of MMFA, the entire mission of Pelosi, is to use fear and smear campaigns on anyone who opposes Obama. Boehlert may find great company in Oliver Stone, but get serious. To honestly imply that it was a right wing effort to kill Kennedy is absurd.
Calls to bring back the "fairness" doctrine are poorly veiled attempts to control talk radio, to make it work better for the left. You post was the most absurd I have seen in ages.
Coming from yourself, who stands at a right angle to reality, I take that as high praise indeed.
May I, with all due respect, suggest that you start to read...
Pointy, if you remove the "poorly veiled" part, I think you accidentally said something close to the truth there. Just as the Constitution is an attempt to control society, to make it work better for the individual.
I'm personally not a big proponent of the FD today. It was more important when the sources of information were fewer, and I think anybody that clings to the right wing propaganda of Fox and talk radio despite the availability of credible sources is not going to be swayed by any time given to rebuttals at those same sources.
Examples, please. See previous comment.
Sorry if I'm a little late to the show.
Some examples for your viewing (dis)pleasure:
Bush is the antichrist
Rioters burning bush in effigy, along with the American flag here
Bush t-shirt with the 'S' as a Swastika
Bush's face on a Swastika (t-shirt)
Hitler and Bush on the same banner
Another Bush is a Nazi photo
"Bush is a psychotic murderer" sign
Picture of a dog with a sign reading "I crap on Bushs"
Bush being lynched in effigy at the "Insurgence Solidarity March" on April 10, 2004
zombietime.com/zomblog/?
There are dozens of pictures for your perusal of many people calling for the death of Bush.
http://timepass.onlyfanpics.com/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i/125107024122.jpg
Look, I for one want to see criticism of a President's policies. I think that people have every right to disagree with something and encourage their voice in votes. However, I don't feel that the criticism should come with hateful words and imagery. Criticize a President for what he does by criticizing his words, not his appearance or labels provided by either side of the aisle.
When intelligent, thoughtful, patriotic Americans called Bush on his brain-dead gop-slop, we had the facts on our side, we didn't show up at his Potemkin town halls packin' heat and we didn't issue racist threats or resort to violence.
On the other hand, the timothy mcveigh-followin', ignorant-teabagger, gun-show trash, clusterfox-watchin', astroturf, al cracka cretins showin' up in DC last weekend with more guns than brains for the 7 percent of one million moron march/unreality show fox drummed up with the help of dick armey's old corporate lobbyist firm were 0-everything when applied to those standards, sport.
Get yourself a case and a clue or get used to it, little factose-intolerant fella.
Always a pleasure.
Watching some of the minions of these overlords, it is easy to see the extremely low level of intelligence. It would take very little to incite them.
This is the first time I can remember anyone tying Oswald to the John Birch Society (even in a round about way as above)
Were Squeaky, Susan and John also right wing nuts?
Try googling Randi Rhodes and Bush assassination. Leftists openly called for Bush to be assassinated. Who is unhinged??
Great points. They are however, points the author and most posters here have no interest in.
How do exlpain that the threats against Obama rose by 400 %, according to official sides?
Who is that, in your opinion?
Since you didn't give any examples, what exactly were the "waves of radical, right-wing rhetoric" that caused the OK City bombing?
The radical right-wing rhetoric that led to OK City Bombing was the militia movement of Ruby Ridge and Waco, TX.
But you could either look that up or already know it.
I suspect you choose to ignore those facts.
Waco had nothing to do with the "right-wing rhetoric" (your time line is off) and everything to do with the incompetent Janet Reno and the bumbling Clinton admin. Once again FEDERAL troops that burned down a building and killed innocent women and children. I'm seeing a pattern here.
While one of the two convicted bombers in the OK City case had ties to a militia, I'm pretty sure he wasn't affiliated with them at the time of the bombing. Can you produce any empirical data that links "right-wing rhetoric" to OK City? Better yet, any empirical data linking the militia movement to OK City. The answer is no.
Please LINK us up if you have data indicating otherwise.
That "empirical" enough for you?
Another question-- how come not ONE right wing pundit has called for calm in these people?
You know why?-- because the are deliberately FOMENTING hatred.
You'll have to do better than that.
Just curious, Tbone, when do you think right wing rhetoric was invented?
2, The only Nazi/Hitler signs are from the LaRouche people who are left wingers.
3. Compared with the left wing nuts during the Bush II administration, the current attacks on Obama are very mild indeed.
4. I was a junior in college and civil rights activist in Chapel Hill when Kennedy was killed. The attacks to Kennedy were from the fringe right and left. 99% of the people in the TEA campaign are centerists or center-right. Their demonstrations have been peaceful for the most part. Exceptions resulted from physical attacks by thug Obama supporters.
5. Protests of the type we are seeing now are patriotic in nature.
6. Boehlart and Pelosi are fools and liars.
And no, it's not the same as right-wing leadership denouncing it ... but it is at least a start, an indication that there is a not insignificant number of right wingers who are trying to stop Limbaugh, Beck, et al.
Boner, the revolution started in November 2008 when our guy won. Suck it up.
However, in their insane quest, they have become so irresponsible and vitriolic that they don't see what this kind of hate talk and lies and turning up the heat will lead to.
And when tragedy strikes, will they even own up to or reassess their behavior? Of course not. The first thing they will do is look for someone to point fingers at and refuse to accept the responsibility for their actions that they are always lecturing about.
It describes the difficulties of a young black man playing football in Syracuse, NY, a pretty liberal college town up north. Ernie Davis, the first black man to win the Heisman Trophy, so clearly a very talented football player, was heckled and physically attacked when his team played against West Virginia and later against Texas in the Cotton Bowl. He was great, yet they treated him very poorly simply because of the color of his skin. The 3 blacks on his team couldn't stay in the reserved hotel rooms in Dallas in 1960 because they didn't allow people with black skin to contaminate the sheets. They couldn't remain in the awards banquet (where Davis collected the MVP award for that year's Cotton Bowl) because of the color of their skin.
There was a ton of hatred back in that timeframe in that neck of the woods. We've come a long way since then, and there is a significant proportion of those on the right who seem still to be stuck back in that era.
I see many trolls here who seem incapable of anything more than insults and parroting talking points when critical thought on both sides is what we need most of all. And make no mistake, I sometimes cringe at how we on the other side respond to these trolls when perhaps the best response would be to say nothing at all.
As a nation, I think we have stopped listening to the rational voices and turned our attention to the loudest ones. A good portion of our population embraces lies as truth either because they are poor informed or the lies reinforce their narrow view of what they want this country to be.
The only people who really win are the likes of Rush and Glenn as they enrich themselves by encouraging hate.
In the end, the only real truth--the truth the right will always deny--is that this country is changing and there is nothing they can say or do to prevent that. It is as inevitable as the violence I fear is close at hand.
Violence is the last resort of people who have nothing left to offer.
I read the comments on right wing sites as well as liberal sites.
Righties hate liberals. We make them crazy. In their very guts they are convinced that all liberals are brainwashed, stupid, mindless stooges who both believe and propagate nothing but lies. Their comment sections are literally mirror images of all that you will read here at MMfA or similar sites.
To borrow from Star Trek mythology, I see a Borg culture on the right, where resistance is futile.
There is an intractable cultural and ideological divide that is hopelessly vaccinated against any possibility of rational discourse. It is pointless.
So there you have it.....in a nutshell (pun intended)
(Mueller's) FBI never has demonstrated the practice nor acted for a preventative policy of stopping plotters of mayhem disfiguring Domestic Tranquility, over the years.
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Simply google 'message to j edgar hoover from bush about oswald' and so find historic Narrative 1 and Narrative 2 -- as this excerpt:
Past is prologue?
Dude. You should like...get this info out to the masses! Don't waste your time on MMfA...I'd send this to every TV outlet in your area. Quick. Time is of the essence!
I can see the headlines now:
H.W. BUSH IN ON JFK PLOT!
Meremark hero!
Can these people get any nuttier?
Just a financial tip for your consideration related to these lefty whackjobs, georgy porgy soros is buying up tin foil reserves as we speak. Do you think he's speculating on more merrymarks to pop up and will allow him to run off with a few extra billion dollars?
Speaking truth to/about progressives
It is a constant source of entertainment.
BTW...thanks for the tip! We'll be rich along with that carbon footprint indulgences booth in the San Fran airport...rolling in the cash.
People making money...that'll make 'em wet the beds around here.
But so far I have yet to find any in the neighborhood stores. I've heard you can only really buy them under the "GLB" designer line. Too bad.
******************TIN FOIL HAT ALERT********************
Maybe the "Tin Foil Hat Alert" is a notice to the other wingnuts to put theirs on to keep the reality out.
Oswald was a friggin COMMUNIST !!!
Eric has thus revealed himself as a JFK conspiracy theorist, a loon standing alongside the Truthers, the Birthers, UFO nuts and more.
This is quite a revelation about Media Matters. It seems that, at least here, the truth doesn't.
Another link, this time directly to the haute couture of Left-wing presidential assassination chique for the last eight years:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
Oswald was a left wing nut, with a penchant for violence, and had shown a willingness to kill people he disagreed with (General Walker) prior to killing Kennedy.
No doubt there was right wing hysteria in Dallas in 1963, but to link the two through nothing but speculation is just as bad as what Fox News does with Acorn/Obama and considering the geeneral topic it could be argued-- worse.
Oswald was a big supporter of Castro, rather like Obama is a big supporter of Zelaya. If Obama had been older he probably would have been a supporter of Castro and he might have beat Oswald to shooting JFK. That anyway make a lot more sense than the theme of this goofy article.
I think that those at “Media Matters” are suffering from the delirium tantrums. Somebody better check the ventilation over there.
Learn to read more than Allahpundit, righties, you might feel like you understand the world a little.
Oswald was a big supporter of Castro, rather like Obama is a big supporter of Zelaya. If Obama had been older he probably would have been a supporter of Castro and he might have beat Oswald to shooting JFK. That certainly makes more sense than the moronic thesis of this airhead article.
I think that those at “Media Matters” are suffering from the delirium tantrums. Somebody better check the ventilation there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald
He was definitely not "right-wing".
Those of you who bought this explanation at face-value had better check your emotions at the door, and start looking at the facts: your freedoms are being taken away by a con-man.
Obviously, his motivations did not originate from his belief in the content of books, articles, speeches, containing "right wing hatred".
It's coming out of the mouths of Fox and conservative talkers. And they will be blamed. They will not be convicted because of their free speech rights. But if the president is assassinated there will be roits and roiters will probably be going after these hate talkers, plus anyone else that gets in the way. This is a bad situation, and it's getting worse everyday. I hope I'am wrong and lets hope it never happens.
Do you guys generally read ANYTHING besides Hot Air and World Net daily?
With regards to the breathless claims that [paraphrased], "never in my lifetime has such vitriol been directed at a President", then you have my deepest sympathies as you've obviously been in a coma the last seven years. I hope your recovery is going well. To help you get back up to speed I'll submit the following links:
http://harpers.org/archive/2006/06/0081057 has an article, from a respectable magazine, in which the author slobbers over himself fantasizing about assassinating Bush.
Or how about http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13374-2004Jun28.html? The published Novella "Checkpoint" is about two men discussing their desire to assassinate the president.
Or how about http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621? Which shows dozens of people openly calling calling for Bush's murder. But don't try to find those signs on CNN/MSNBC/etc, they feel that such things are merely a distraction.
And of course Craig Kilborn running jokes about killing Bush, plays were produced about it, etc.
So as you can see, things got a little hot over the past couple years. I could go on, but I think you get the idea. Just trying to fill you in.
I believe you are the one that is woefully naive. You close your eyes to all the left wing violence to Peaceful Protesters because we disagree with the Presidents policies...and because we do you say we are racist...that card has been played out. That is the response of a failing argument. As for those that don't know an America Flag flown upside down is the International sign of distress...not like left wing protesters that BURN MY FLAG. I think if there is anyone trying to incite violence it is this article. There are extremists on both sides unfortunatly it is not depicted here. With the exception of the writer.
Leftist Puerto Rican nationalists (Truman)
Lee Harvey Oswald (JFK): Communist
Sirhan Sirhan (RFK): Arab PLO supporter
Arthur Bremer (Wallace): schizo who stalked Wallace and Nixon
Squeaky Fromme (Ford): Manson Hippie chick
Sarah Jane Moore (Ford): Manson Hippie chick
Carter: um, nobody?
John Hinckley, Jr. (Reagan): Saw Taxi Driver 15 times, developed obsession with Jodie Foster and determined to shoot Reagan to make an impression, as Bremer, the inspiration for Taxi Driver, had.
Bush 41: Nobody
Clinton: Nobody. Francisco Martin Duran fired on the White House, claiming to be destroying an 'alien mist'.
Bush 43: Nobody.
Obama: Nobody.
Frankly, rightwing crazies are way behind the curve. Leftists and lunatics, though, or as we like to call them, Obama's base, are pretty clearly a hazard to the public weal...
1. Some Republican leaders (and their media-mouthpiece overlords) want the President of the United States to be assassinated?
2. Some Religious extremist leaders want our president to be assassinated?
3. The liars and the racists in the Republican party want our president to be assassinated?
4. Some Republican leaders are covering for those people like beck and limbaugh who are skirting with fomenting violence?
5. Some extreme Christian pastors of the religious right want our president to be assassinated?
6. A fringe lunatic wants our president to be assassinated?
7. Right wing pundits are deliberately FOMENTING hatred?
8. "Over the top rhetoric from the right wing and financed by some of the richest people in the US. It is even worse today due to the coporate oligarchy in media : 5 companies control virtually everything you see hear and read."
9. Some nut out there is going to do something stupid and that stupidity will lay right at the feet of the Republican party allowing all the hate, smears, and BS to go on non-stop?
10 Republican leaders & politicians are well aware of where their insinuations, etc will lead. It's just that they are just evil, evil monsters? (I think I got that right.)
11. The likes of Rush (Limbaugh) and Glenn (Beck), as they enrich themselves by encouraging hate... It is as inevitable as the violence I fear is close at hand.
12. "America's most famous bouts of political violence (i.e. JFK, Oklahoma City, etc.) have always been accompanied by waves of radical, right-wing rhetoric?"
But then on reflection, I rejoice to hear the voice of reason:
"We welcome dissenting viewpoints. We think it's not only healthy, but vital to a functioning democracy."
Then again,
"Great points. They are however, points the author and most posters here have no interest in."
I guess y'all are right. These threats should be taken seriously. All those people mentioned above in your own posts should not be walking around in public. They should be immediately arrested and...o god! dare I say, tortured to find out . It's the only reasonable thing to do, right?
(Exit, drawing circles in the air around my right ear...)
Sirhan Sirhan was vehemently anti-Israel, a longtime Lefty position.
Dutch Prime Minister Pim Fortuyn was assassinated by Volkert van de Graaf, a militant animal rights activist.
Daniel Andreas San Diego, of the Animal Liberation Front, is the only domestic terrorist currently on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.
Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn and all the rest of the Weather Underground psychos bombed the US Capitol, murdered a number of people (three in a Brinks robbery alone) and were also on the FBI's Most Wanted list.
Is it severely doubtful that a conservative bombed the Times Square Army recruiting station last year. That's Code Pink territory.
No conservatives are wearing KILL OBAMA tee shirts. How many of you lefties wore KILL BUSH tee shirts? Or were so fascinated with assassinating the President it became an entire subculture in books, films, art exhibits, even merchandising?
Let's not forget that anti-abortion protester recently shot dead.
This is a clear case of left-wing projection. The only violence that has taken place at town hall meetings is by the SEIU Purpleshirts who were bused in to do just that.
Noise is not violence, however loud. You Lefties were total tinfoil off-the-wall political maniacs for eight straight years under Bush. Given articles like this, it seems that hasn't changed. But current left wing overreaching, irrational radicalism and surreal and Pravda-like posts like this are exactly what are going to drive the American Left out of power for all time. The American people know who you really are now: petty tyrants who are demonizing dissenting Americans no less than Ahmie and Khamie demonized the Green protesters.
In short, keep up the boffo work, guys! I'll repost articles like this next October to remind people exactly who is running the show, and who needs to be run out. Cheers!
If, God forbid, the president is assassinated, they'll use a "right wing wacko" as a patsy and an excuse to crack down on dissidents. In reality, the only people who can get that close to the president these days are black ops groups within the government itself.
Articles like these are reckless and ignorant do nothing but generate hate in America.
oh and by the way, if all you leftist haters did a little homework you would know that Lee Harvey Oswald was an avowed Communist and strong Castro supporter....hardly a right winger. But you don't care about a little thing like facts do you? it doesn't conform to your skewed propaganda and true hate speech. You're fanning the flames of serious civil unrest with your careless accusations and bigoted analogies, the ensuing blood will be on your hands not ours.
Gee, is this the best that Media Matters can do to support the official line?