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McClatchy, Salon raise questions about apparent discrepancies in Beck's account of mother's death

September 27, 2009 5:14 pm ET by Media Matters staff

In a September 26 article, The News Tribune of Tacoma, Washington, reported that while Glenn Beck "has plainly called" his mother's 1979 drowning "a suicide," her "death unfolds more as a mystery in interviews and records," and "news accounts from the time, interviews and official records obtained by The News Tribune largely describe the death of Mary Beck as an accident." McClatchy owns The News Tribune and republished the article.

From the News Tribune article:

On May 15, 1979, boaters found the body of Beck's 41-year-old divorcée mother, Mary, floating about two miles north of the Asarco smelter at Ruston.

A day later, the body of the man who reportedly had taken Beck's mother fishing was found washed ashore near Vashon Island's Tahlequah Ferry Dock. The man's small boat also was found beached at Maury Island, with a small dog, personal items and an empty bottle of booze inside.

Years later, during his radio and television broadcasts and in interviews, Beck consistently has described his mother's death as a suicide, part of a running thread in the fabric of his personal story of salvation - the hallmark of his broadcasts. Beck's stepbrother also killed himself, Beck has said.

"My mom wasn't mother of the year," Beck told his audience last year. "My mother, my mother had real deep, deep problems. She was doing her best, but she left the family to deal with suicide when I was 13 years old."

Beck has said that, like his mother, he has battled chemical addiction and nearly killed himself, too - until finding redemption through, among other things, Alcoholics Anonymous and Mormonism.

But a recent report in Salon Magazine questioned Beck's version of his mother's death, stirring anger among Beck's followers.

Now, news accounts from the time, interviews and official records obtained by The News Tribune largely describe the death of Mary Beck as an accident.

"It was determined that (Mary Beck) appeared to be a classic drowning victim," a Tacoma police report on her death investigation states.

"There were no obvious injuries on the exterior of the body and at this point there is no reason to believe that this was anything other than an accidental drowning."

Yet the report added that Coast Guard officials theorized Beck's mother also could have jumped overboard.

Beck, who has talked generally about his mother's death on the air and in interviews but has provided few details, this week declined The News Tribune's request for an interview.

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Though Mary Beck's son has plainly called it a suicide, her death unfolds more as a mystery in interviews and records.

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According to the Salon story, Beck has said in at least one interview that his mother left a brief suicide note the morning of her death. Beck's father did not return a call seeking comment for this story.

Beck's family did not discuss his mother's death, and neither did he - until years later, when he broached the subject live on the air, according to the St. Petersburg Times profile. His current wife first heard Beck describe his mother's death as a suicide while listening to the broadcast, the story said.

Washington state death certificates show the cause of both deaths as drowning, with Carroll's death ruled an accident and Mary Beck's as "probable accidental."

Although most of the Tacoma police investigation report also describes the deaths as accidental, it offered one other possible explanation:

"Coast Guardsman theorize that Mrs. Beck, who had a history of heart problems and also was thought to be having a nervous breakdown, might have fallen overboard or jumped overboard," the report says, adding that "Carroll attempted to save her and the result being both victims drowning."

The News Tribune article follows a September 21 Salon.com article that reported on the subject:

Early one morning in May 1979, a 41-year-old divorcee named Mary Beck went boating in Washington's Puget Sound. Her companions on the expedition were a retired papermaker named Orean Carrol, whose boat she helped launch near the Tacoma suburb of Puyallup, and Carrol's pet dog. Exactly what happened next remains shrouded in morning mist, but among the crew, only the dog would survive the day. The boat was recovered late that afternoon adrift near Vashon Island, just north of Tacoma. It was empty but for two wallets and the frightened animal. Mary Beck's body was discovered floating fully clothed nearby. Carrol's corpse washed ashore at the Vashon ferry terminal the following morning.

The county coroner found no evidence of violence on either body. Police investigators told Tacoma's News Tribune that the double drowning appeared to be a classic man-overboard mishap -- a failed rescue attempt in which both parties perished.

At the time of Beck's death, she held custody of her 15-year-old son, Glenn, with whom she had moved to Puyallup. She had left her estranged husband William behind in Mt. Vernon, Wash., another small city 100 miles due north. After producing two daughters and a son, the Becks' marriage had collapsed in 1977 under the weight of Mary's chemical addictions and manic fits of depression. It was in the two years bridging this divorce and his mother's drowning that a teenage Glenn Beck launched one of the most bizarre and unlikely careers in the history of American broadcasting.

Since launching his talk radio career in the late '90s, Beck has constructed a persona anchored in a biography of struggle and redemption. It is a narrative with shades of another haunted Washingtonian who found entertainment fame, Kurt Cobain. Both men hailed from broken homes in the drizzly Pacific Northwest. Both men would find youthful fortune behind microphones while struggling with drugs, prescribed and recreational. Both would contemplate suicide before their tethers finally snapped in 1994. That year Cobain would wrap his mouth around a loaded shotgun. Beck, after contemplating doing the same while listening to a Nirvana album, would not.

Over the course of many retellings, the tragedy of Mary Beck would become the cornerstone event in her son's personal narrative of redemption, and that tale of rebirth would became the cornerstone of his career. But the story Glenn Beck often tells about his mother is not quite the one recorded by the Tacoma paper. As Beck would later relate to millions of his listeners, his mother's drowning was no boating accident. It was a suicide, he claimed, explained in a short note written on that fateful dawn and left on the mantel. And he said it happened in 1977, when he was 13, not 1979, when he was 15 (even though newspaper obits and government records confirm that a 41-year-old woman named Mary Beck died in Puyallup in 1979.) In fact, Beck's first wife had never heard of Mary Beck's alleged suicide until years after they married, when she heard her husband discussing it live on the radio.

Whether or not some of its details are reliable, the story of how Glenn Beck the teenage DJ became Glenn Beck the cultural phenomenon has both political and personal significance. But is Beck's journey conservatism's post-millennial crack-up writ small, complete with a preference for faith over fact? Is it simply a classic showbiz success story? Or, as Beck and his loyal legions would have it, is it a tale of resurrection, of a born-again patriot rescued from nihilism and now destined to save America from liberalism?

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    • Author by worrierking (September 27, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
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      This isn't a topic that we should be getting involved in. There are hundreds of other instances where Beck can be criticized.

      The death of a loved one should never be cause for attacking an opponent.

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      • Author by liberalXtian (September 27, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
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        I agree. It would be best if this article was dropped from the site. Even if this article was about ONLY Glenn Beck it is inappropriate, but there are other family and friends of this woman who should not be dragged into the debate about Mr. Beck.
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        • Author by canaanxing9025 (September 27, 2009 7:03 pm ET)
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          Agreed - this issue should be dropped.
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          • Author by carlileb5935 (September 28, 2009 3:54 am ET)
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            I disagree, because Beck himself has made an issue of this. Otherwise, just out of the blue, yes.

            It's kind of like Dr. Laura talking about how righteous she is, and then Bill Ballance coming up with her photos.
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            • Author by bintx (September 28, 2009 9:22 am ET)
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              Exactly. The media is doing what the media is supposed to do . . . report facts. Beck has used his mother's death as a prop to make himself a more sympathetic figure. He lied about his age at her death, her manner of death, etc. Beck made this a story, not the media.
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        • Author by raine315 (September 27, 2009 8:24 pm ET)
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          yeah because the Faux News wingnuts will only talk about how "The Looney Left- Hate Blog Media Matters is going after Glenn Beck's deceased mother"

          Glenn "The Victim" Beck- yeah his pea brained followers are going to play that card
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (September 27, 2009 10:48 pm ET)
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          Glennn Beck WANTS you to discuss his mother's death. He WANTS you to discuss everything about him. Glennn Beck has a pathological need for public attention. Maybe we'll get to see cry again...
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        • Author by themidnightreview.com (September 28, 2009 1:18 am ET)
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          Normally I agree, but with the constant attacks I hear about Obama and his Kenyan family, about how his long lost brother lives in a shanty town, or how they have also focused on his militant Muslim half-brother, I would believe that conservatives are not pulling their punches, and to hold back would only put the targets on the defensive, giving the attacker the high ground...

          There have already been personal attacks made on the President and his family, and not to mention comments made regarding ACORN workers, especially the one who fabricated a story of her own, where Glenn Beck insinuated that she just might have killed her husband, a husband that nobody knew about...

          Glenn Beck has taken personal jabs, and so it is only natural to question his own personal story that he had created for himself, much like George Bush's personal redemption (only Democrats seemed to play into this and leave his troubled past behind him)... if the conservatives believe Obama's militant Muslim half brother has any relevance to the administration, then maybe Beck's true personal life would shed some light on his views.
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          • Author by all your eyes (September 28, 2009 8:57 am ET)
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            I don't see this as a personal attack at all. Beck has lied about his biographical background. When you make that aspect of your life part of the public conversation, as a public figure, you are open to scrutiny when it turns out you've been lying all these years, for whatever reason. And, since Beck is so inflammatory and accusatory of others, on whatever basis he can imagine in his mind, challenging him on the basic facts of his biography is certainly legitimate.
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          • Author by WorldViewer (September 28, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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            You make some valid points, but the discrepancies pointed out in this article aren't strong enough to begin the sort of modality you are discussing.

            If something sinister pops up...fair game. But, as someone else pointed out earlier, this story isn't ONLY about Beck; there are other surviving family members. We have no idea what their positions are or how they have been affected by his mother's death.
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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (September 27, 2009 8:25 pm ET)
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        If Glenn Beck can call a woman who had a miscarriage to make fun of her, and if he can lie about others while calling THEM liars, then anything he says is fair game.
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        • Author by WorldViewer (September 28, 2009 4:27 pm ET)
             
          Except that there are other surviving family members. Raising this as an issue, even if "he started it", is unfair to them if they only reason is to point out his hypocrisy.
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      • Author by truthseeker77 (September 27, 2009 8:39 pm ET)
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        Agree.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (September 27, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
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        The woman's death is not the cause for attacking Glennn Beck. It's Glennn's public remarks...which mean that he disputes the official version of this woman's death...you know, like it was a government conspiracy to cover up the facts. Now, does that sound remotely similar to the nut case, publicity hound, Glennn Beck that we know? Beck is the one who has trivialized the woman's death...
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        • Author by fawltylogic (September 28, 2009 12:27 am ET)
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          I don't really care what Beck says about his mother or her death. He can say she died from a unicorn bite, as far as I'm concerned. There are so many other important things he should be criticized for, this is not one of them.
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      • Author by Dem02020 (September 27, 2009 10:58 pm ET)
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        You're wrong.

        Your sympathy and respect for a malicious rotten liar who would never ever extend the same to you, is misguided.

        These monsters feed on weakness, and that's exactly what compassion and feeling for a monster is, it's human weakness, not virtue.

        Save human feelings for humans, and save your sympathies and respect for those who are truly worthy of them, and who would trade with you in them... you invite and encourage monsters, by treating them as equals.
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        • Author by pointofview (September 27, 2009 11:59 pm ET)
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          Dem02020

          Feel better now. Wow...and you have the nerve to talk about hate.
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          • Author by Dem02020 (September 28, 2009 7:48 pm ET)
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            I sure do hate that malicious destructive rat named glenn beck, because he deserves it. I hate rush limbaugh too, and like that rat beck, he deserves all of the hatred directed at him.

            You have a problem with that?
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        • Author by fawltylogic (September 28, 2009 12:28 am ET)
             
          I have no sympathy for Beck, that doesn't mean this isn't irrelevant to what he does for Fox News.
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        • Author by fawltylogic (September 28, 2009 12:34 am ET)
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          These monsters feed on weakness

          Ignoring someone isn't weakness. Beck feeds on attention. You can bet that Beck and his followers would LOVE if MMFA wrote more about this - it reinforces their "us vs the world" mentality. They love their paranoia, and this would just be another example of the mean liberals going after them where it hurts.

          I'd prefer to deal with facts to show the unconverted (Beck's fans are a lost cause), and this doesn't do much for that.
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        • Author by magnolialover (September 28, 2009 8:57 am ET)
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          I disagree with you on this one. Just because Beck is a rotten human being, doesn't mean that we have to be. I'd like to think, and actually, I know, that I'm a better person than Beck.
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        • Author by WorldViewer (September 28, 2009 4:30 pm ET)
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          And what of the other surviving family members? If Beck has indeed lied about this, then he has a special spot reserved in hell for him. But it's not particularly relevant to policy or political debates.

          And, while I have neither sympathy NOR respect for this malicious rotter liar, there are other surviving family members whose feelings I WILL respect until given convincing reason not to. If he's lying, let them hate him for it privately, and not have to encounter his lies publicly any more than they already do.
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      • Author by wesley (September 28, 2009 8:25 am ET)
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        -- This isn't a topic that we should be getting involved in. There are hundreds of other instances where Beck can be criticized. -- worrierking

        Well said King.

        mmfa comes off like...well...like...Glen Beck.
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 28, 2009 8:56 am ET)
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        Agreed. Fully. His mother died when he was young, regardless of how, it's tragic.
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    • Author by spooky3 (September 27, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
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      Wow, aside from the main points the article is making - what is with the use of "divorcée mother"? What an obnoxious, 1950s-style term--it's a misuse of a noun as an adjective, sort of like "the Democrat Party". And sexist - would we EVER see in print an article about Beck's "divorcé father"? Time to retire the terms altogether, since people should not be defined by their marital status. If Beck's mother's status is relevant to the story, the Tribune should have said, "Beck's mother, who was divorced from his father..." or something along those lines.
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      • Author by spooky3 (September 27, 2009 6:51 pm ET)
           
        not sure why the website can't accept the accented e in my post, but that's what was typed in place of the é.
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    • Author by WorldViewer (September 27, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
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      I agree with the above posters. If the issues that the headline of this article promises had in some way implicated Beck or anyone else in some sort of foul play, or of some sort of direct exploitation of the death, that would be one thing. I see nothing like that here. Not good, MediaMatters.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (September 28, 2009 3:56 am ET)
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        Beck constantly exploits her death. And if turns out to be a lie, that's a valid story. Beck brings her up, nobody else.
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        • Author by WorldViewer (September 28, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
             
          It's still dangerous ground to tread on. I have no idea what happened with his mother, and I have no idea what his relationship with his mother was. For all I know, it wasn't a suicide, but for whatever reason Beck has become convinced as a personal balm that it was (who knows). I think this is playing with fire, and when there are so many other things to go after him for, at this point this should be left alone.
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    • Author by raine315 (September 27, 2009 8:18 pm ET)
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      Oh I'm not gonna touch this one. I am sure Beck suffers from "Mommy Issues" but I say let the Momma Beck rest in peace



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      • Author by canaanxing9025 (September 27, 2009 8:35 pm ET)
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        Beck was thirteen years old when his mother died, and how she died is a mystery. Before her death she abandoned him. Anyone with compassion can just imagine the hurt and confusion in his adolescent mind. You can certainly understand why he would think his mother committed suicide.

        Leave it be.
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (September 28, 2009 3:58 am ET)
             
          It also makes a better sob story. And if his first wife never heard about it, it's gotta be a lie.
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        • Author by bintx (September 28, 2009 9:28 am ET)
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          No, that's part of Beck's lie. Beck was 15 when his mother died. The authorities didn't find that there was a mystery, they determined that the deaths of Beck's mother and her friend were accidental drownings. Also, Beck was living with his mother, the custodial parent, at the time of her death, so she didn't abandon him, except in the sense that she was an alcoholic and addict.

          The media is doing the right thing. They are pointing out Beck's lie and his disgusting use of his mother's death. Beck is the one who brought the phony story of his mother into the forefront.
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    • Author by Deschanel (September 27, 2009 9:21 pm ET)
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      Must agree, this is below the belt- I don't understand the point trying to be made. This is an incoherent article that threatens to discredit the good work MM does- it's ammunition for the other side. You don't bring someone's mother into it, much less make something of a tragedy. What is the point again? Bad call. I fear there will be blowback- I don't know what her death has to do with a fair argument against Beck's craziness. Not sportsmanlike, not germane, and i wonder if Drudge will make this article a screaming headline tomorrow: "MM Attacks Beck's Dead Mother".

      Incredibly unwise, this whole post.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (September 28, 2009 4:02 am ET)
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        What is the point again? Bad call.... I don't know what her death has to do with a fair argument against Beck's craziness.

        The point is that Beck is probably fabricating a story about his mother -- that he, and ONLY he-- brings up all the time to score points.

        1) the cops said it was an accident

        2) his first wife never knew about it.

        And hey guys-- something is being forgotten here-- it's BECK who brings up his mother, not MMFA and not Salon.
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      • Author by bintx (September 28, 2009 9:29 am ET)
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        He even lied about the age he was when his mother died. He was 15. His parents divorced when he was 13 and he went to live with his mother.

        Beck put the false story out there . . .
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    • Author by erworthing (September 27, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
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      I used to turn to media matters for some civility. Has there been a change in management?
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      • Author by bintx (September 28, 2009 9:30 am ET)
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        What is "uncivil" about reporting fact? Glenn Beck is the one who constantly speaks of his mother's suicide when he was 13 . . . only, it wasn't a suicide, according to the authorities, and he was 15. All Salon has done is report the truth to Beck's lies.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 27, 2009 10:14 pm ET)
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      Can Glennn Beck PROVE that he didn't kill his mother? Can he PROVE the woman in question was actually his mother? Can Glennn PROVE that Mormons haven't covered up the true facts? Why aren't the media covering this important story? I've got it all outlined on my blackboard, Glennn...

      Glennn Beck is nothing but a publicity junkie and IMO he had a reason for publicly discussing his mother's alleged suicide in the first place. I wouldn't believe a word this nut case says.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (September 27, 2009 10:44 pm ET)
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        Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if Glennn accused ACORN of killing his mother...with the help of SEIU "thugs".

        Nothing is private with Glennn Beck...
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        • Author by WorldViewer (September 28, 2009 4:34 pm ET)
             
          But it is private with other family members who may or may not be bastards. Let them have peace. Even if Beck himself is the only one starting off by disturbing that peace, let only Beck be the one to deserve fault.
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      • Author by fawltylogic (September 28, 2009 12:30 am ET)
           
        He would say exactly what you said if this was about one of his targets. Which is why MMFA shouldn't do it. Emulating Beck isn't a good long term course of action.
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    • Author by fawltylogic (September 28, 2009 12:24 am ET)
         
      Let's not stoop to the right-wing level. I'm sure they would love to do something like this against a "liberal", but MMFA should leave this one be.
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    • Author by steeve (September 28, 2009 1:01 am ET)
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      This might be bad tactically, but it isn't an inch out of bounds.
      Here is what Beck's own medicine tastes like. (Read the very bottom if you don't get it.)
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    • Author by Jen7 (September 28, 2009 3:16 am ET)
         
      Don't make it personal. Leave family out of it.
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    • Author by bintx (September 28, 2009 9:20 am ET)
         
      "But a recent report in Salon Magazine questioned Beck's version of his mother's death, stirring anger among Beck's followers.

      Now, news accounts from the time, interviews and official records obtained by The News Tribune largely describe the death of Mary Beck as an accident."

      Actually, it is a topic to be involved in . . . it shows Beck's lack of honesty and character. The news reports of the time don't indicate that there was a suicide, they also indicate that Beck was 15, not 13, as he states consistently in reports. Beck uses his mother's "suicide" as a prop. It is BECK who is demeaning his mother's memory, not the news media which is reporting the inconsistencies. He's lying, again, and he's using his mother's death to make himself a more sympathetic figure. More disgusting behavior by Mr. Beck.
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    • Author by Conan (September 29, 2009 9:46 am ET)
         
      I think this isn't an appropriate topic for a few of reasons. The first is moral. It just isn't right. I dislike Beck, and think he is a dangerous speaker, but he is still a human being, and criticism against him should be substantive, not personal. Doing this actually sinks beneath his level. The second is practical. This writer has just energized the Beck audience. No doubt Beck can now point out how the "mainstream media" is attacking him by going deep into his personal life, even looking into the tragic death of his mother, to tarnish his repuation. You have just handed him a bucket load of good PR. The third is it doesn't matter what the accounts and police reports say. This is about interpretation. Beck may simply have reached a different conclusion than the authorities. And drudgin up the old accounts proves nothing about Beck's intentions.
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