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October 08, 2009 8:18 am ET by Media Matters staff

From an October 8 column by WorldNetDaily columnists Floyd and Mary Beth Brown:

As a moderator of discussion on the blog www.exposeobama.com, Floyd has observed the discussion of impeachment is mushrooming amongst conservative activists.

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Impeachment is no more or less than the recall of an elected official who isn't up to the job. Obama deserves recall much more than Gov. Gray Davis, and he was replaced by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in a special recall election Oct. 7, 2003, in California.

America is a monument to the triumph of freedom. When Barack Obama thinks about freedom, he sees a world in which some people, due to personal initiative and good fortune, will do better than others. In that regard, he is right. But Barack Obama sees that as unfair. Where you see freedom, liberty and the opportunity for any American to be all that he or she can be, Obama sees greed and bigotry.

Like so many on the far-left before him, going all the way back to Karl Marx, he believes that it's his mission to promote "equality of outcome" over "equality of opportunity." This worldview makes Barack Hussein Obama a very dangerous man, and a threat to your personal liberty.

Worldview explains why he has gobbled-up major banks and why the government now controls more and more of our money. And if you wake up one day to discover you're broke, don't be surprised. Barack Hussein Obama is Bernie Madoff with the political power of the presidency at his disposal.

Worldview explains why Obama intends to take away your freedom to choose your own doctor and your own treatment. Wherever government controls health care, bureaucrats decide who gets treatments, transplants, dialysis and costly medication.

The groundswell of calls for the impeachment of Barack Hussein Obama is growing.

In the column, WND promoted its "Exclusive!" "IMPEACH Obama Magnetic Bumper Sticker" with the promotional text, "Let the world know your solution to tyranny and socialism in America with the magnetic bumper sticker: 'IMPEACH OBAMA!'"

WND also has an online poll asking readers, "FIRED WITH ENTHUSIASM: What do you think of the call to impeach President Obama?" From the poll's top 5 responses:

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    • Author by goesto11 (October 08, 2009 8:24 am ET)
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      Man, I love it when morons get hold of science.

      In terms of the unquestionable validity of their research, I think I can go them one better:

      What do you think of the call to impeach Obama? (Sorry, that should be "Barack Hussein Obama")
      1. Definitely
      2. Absolutely
      3. Certainly
      4. Positively
      5. Immediately

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      • Author by tennisstar142571 (October 08, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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        Please! your really reporting on a right-wing blog site?!? MediaMatters, i'm disappointed! i'm surprised you didn't do a fact-check of the SNL skit yet, or did you?? how many left-wing bloggers were calling for Bush's impeachment! their just as crazy and this ain't news ...
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        • Author by steeve (October 09, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
             
          Media Matters likes to have this stuff in their database for when it becomes news.

          Major republicans will at some point call for impeachment as surely as the sun will come up. This is just putting a marker on the trail.

          (And of course Bush actually deserved impeachment.)
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    • Author by goesto11 (October 08, 2009 8:29 am ET)
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      Incidentally....

      How many people's opinions make up a "groundswell"?

      After all, there's a "groundswell of calls" in my household to buy a bigger TV. The groundswell was just my wife, and she convinced me this might be a good idea.

      So now there's two of us, which I guess means the groundswell is "growing."

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    • Author by LORISNJ (October 08, 2009 8:45 am ET)
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      The groundswell is the 22 percenters - the same 22% that are part of the birther movement, the tea baggers, the deathers, etc. It is the same people who love Sarah Palin, Rush, Beck, Fox News, and hates anything liberal or Obama related.

      These are the gun toting, bigotted, evangelical, anti-government, pro-life wingnutters who accept medicare and cash their social security checks at the check cashing store because they don't have bank accounts; these 22 percenters think that they have a right to overthrow the lawfully elected President just because they don't like him. They are the ones that disrupt town halls because they are told by Fox News that Democrats want to kill granny. But if you ask them specifically what they are protesting - most won't be able to give a coherent reason. They show up when they are told to but only because whatever corporation is funding the protests, provide transportation to the events. These people will never change, never listen, and never compromise and therefore should be ignored - they are lost and we need not try to appease them.

      It is the other 25% of the moderates and independants that we need to concentrate on and acknowledge that they do have some stake in getting these reforms correct. We should try and get those people on board to keep moving forward.
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      • Author by walstib (October 08, 2009 8:54 am ET)
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        That 22% is roughly 55,000,000 Amercans gosh darn it.

        There were roughly 129,000,000 votes cast for President.

        So, according to MATH, those out and proud real Amercans are 42.5% of the votes!!

        That's how you do Amercan electoral MATH!!
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        • Author by Conchobhar (October 08, 2009 9:18 am ET)
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          Glad you used the word "roughly," because your thinking has some road bumps. Even if we accept that the 22% represents 22% of all Amercans (I'm assuming you mean Americans) that doesn't translate to 42.5% of the vote. I'll speak real slowly, here, and you try to follow: Not all Americans are registered voters, and not all registered voters vote.

          However, the polls that the 22% comes from don't contact children, etc., but potential voters. That 22% is roughly 22% of the potential vote.

          But thanks for pointing out why our kids are, roughly, 17th in the world when it comes to math and science. "Amercan electoral math is to blame.
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          • Author by neon desert (October 08, 2009 9:41 am ET)
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            I think you got a little caught up in your disgust at this article, Conchobar, and missed the sarcasm of walstib's comment. I'm sure you're forgiven, however, as most of us understand how the type of garbage as in this article has given credibility to unreasoned and biased thinking among the American public, polluting the political process and nudging this country toward a more ignorant state. And no doubt it's frustrating and maddening when the promise of a government composed of talented and intelligent people who make decisions of national importance is obstructed by an ignorant minority of the public.
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            • Author by Conchobhar (October 08, 2009 10:00 am ET)
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              Well, I feel sheepish. Thanks for the heads-up, and apologies to walstib.
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              • Author by A Big Fat Slob (October 08, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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                Don't feel sheepish -- I fell the same way you did.

                I should have noticed the name -- WALSTIB -- that's a dead giveaway (and one of the first on-line names i used, like, 20 years ago it seems).

                Even 'though, I admire your restrained response when you thought 'e was serious about dat . . . .
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                • Author by Conchobhar (October 08, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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                  Now I feel even more sheepish. If this gets any worse I'll start bleating. Why is WALSTIB a "dead giveaway?"
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                  • Author by Herman Newticks (October 08, 2009 12:54 pm ET)
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                    an acronym for a quote in the Grateful Dead song, 'Truckin'. the letters stand for the line "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been".
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                    • Author by neon desert (October 08, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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                      I've joined the flock, Conchobar. Didn't know that myself.

                      Baaa...
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                    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 08, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
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                      I didn't know that, either. I thought it was "bit slaw" spelled backwards, which is a term for a muddled up program that shouldn't run, but does anyway.
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                      • Author by Conchobhar (October 08, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
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                        Thanks, folks. I don't feel quite so woolly-headed now.

                        As the shepherd once said, "Let's get the flock outta here."
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      • Author by rosesru (October 08, 2009 10:36 am ET)
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        That was absolutely correct, we MUST make sure for the midterm elections that we get everyone out to vote because the Republicans are depending on the only voters that will come out will be the older white male voters who typically only vote Republicans.

        We must be vigilant, if you notice the Republicans in some sense has try to pull away from the media so that they won't be seen as the "PARTY OF NO" they are hoping to hold out until the midterm election and if they are lucky, they hope to take over a large percentage of the seats and they will be able to stop President Obama on anything that he is not able to pass now and if they are successful, they will hope that President Obama will be a one-term president.

        WE MUST GO OUT AND VOTE DURING THE MID-TERM ELECTIONS TO HOLD THE SEATS IN BOTH CONGRESS AND THE HOUSE!!!! PLEASE GET THE WORD OUT!!!!
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (October 08, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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        LORISNJ, VERY WELL SAID AND 100% TRUE.
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      • Author by papa bear3 (October 08, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
           
        FOX-Math
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    • Author by all your eyes (October 08, 2009 9:02 am ET)
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      It's unfortunate that our politics has descended to these lows. They're so concerned with the constitution, but what of "high crimes and misdemeanors?"

      Hmm.. Methinks wanton, unilateral violation of treaties to which the soverign is a ratifying party, as well as summary abbroagation of civil liberties by George W. would be a much stronger case to meet the constitutional requirement for impeachment than anything we've seen since Nixon.

      Good thing the current Speaker of the House has some respect for democracy, and the fabric of the nation, or else we might have gone through another impeachment fiasco in 2006, albeit deserved.

      So let's not go throwing around impeachment as a political tool. That's not what it's supposed to be used for. Now, to convince WND and friends to show some discretion in their political discourse, that's probably asking too much...
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    • Author by bintx (October 08, 2009 9:14 am ET)
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      Unless these idiots MAKE UP a "high crime and misdemeanor" which Obama has committed [kind of like they did with Clinton], they've got bupkis. 'Course, that didn't stop them with Clinton. I think that they are underestimating the disgust shown by the American public for this kind of BS. I wasn't a Clinton supporter, but as a member of the legal profession, the total disregard for our legal system shown by the House managers and the Republican Party in the Clinton impeachment proceedings DISGUSTED me.

      Obama's only crimes are that he won and he's a black Democrat.
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    • Author by wookie (October 08, 2009 9:17 am ET)
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      >>Obama deserves recall much more than Gov. Gray Davis, and he was replaced by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in a special recall election Oct. 7, 2003, in California.

      Seeing as how that was another fake controversy designed to give Republicans a win, it's a low bar to set.

      >>The groundswell of calls for the impeachment of Barack Hussein Obama is growing.

      But you can't impeach him over his name.

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      • Author by neon desert (October 08, 2009 9:49 am ET)
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        Gee, we can only hope that - based on how well the "Kleefoanya" recall has panned out - a presidential recall would be as beneficial to the country...eh?
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 08, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
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        Yeah, that's what I thought when I read this - that Gov Gray Davis didn't deserve the recall that he faced either.
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    • Author by BrianInSC (October 08, 2009 10:09 am ET)
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      It's hard to believe they're serious but if they can read Article I and find a need to provide a specific document to meet the "natural born citizen[ship] requirement it shouldn't be shocking to have "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" characterized as "not being up to the job".
      Let's see them get more than half the House to say that out loud without laughing, then we'll talk.
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    • Author by fstory (October 08, 2009 10:27 am ET)
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      I found this amusing: "Impeachment is no more or less than the recall of an elected official who isn't up to the job."

      Actually, the Constitution is very clear as to what impeachment is: "Section 4. The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

      Needless to say, WND doesn't have any Constitutional scholars on staff... apparently they also lack people who can read plain English.
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      • Author by Tiredog (October 08, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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        "Needless to say, WND doesn't have any Constitutional scholars on staff... apparently they also lack people who can read plain English."

        Please tell me that you're not surprised at that...
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    • Author by psychobroad (October 08, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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      Just can't stand the idea of a n***er in the White House, can you?
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    • Author by worrierking (October 08, 2009 11:26 am ET)
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      I'm surprised that only 5% of those polled chose:

      "I CAN"T BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING IMPEACHMENT WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN SETTLED THE QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY"

      SHOW US YER SMALLPOCKS VACINEATION!!!!!
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 08, 2009 11:58 am ET)
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      These people need a dictionary.

      Add "impeachment = recall" to their list of words that the use, yet have no idea what they mean:

      facsist = socialist
      reconciliation = nuclear option
      voter registration fraud = voter fraud

      (It goes on and on.)

      -----------------------------------------------------------------
      These people are sofa king stupid.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 08, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
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        Add "impeachment = recall" to their list of words that the use, yet have no idea what they mean
        "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to be impeached!"
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    • Author by swiftandrewm4525 (October 08, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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      Floyd Brown has a long history of sleazy behavior. He was the guy behind the Willie Horton ad, the John McCain's black baby stuff, etc.
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    • Author by sluggo (October 08, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
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      I go to the WorldNutDaily web site and find a bunch of ads by companies like AT&T and Dell Computer. I guess these corporations are ok with sponsoring violent revolutionary talk against our government. I'm not sure how such sponsorship works with their long-term business strategies. I would assume that they would sell more products in a stable country, but I guess I don't understand the business mind of these companies.

      I am emailing the CEO's of AT&T and Dell and asking them why they are supporting a web site that is calling for the violent overthrow of our government.
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      • Author by Democracy Boy (October 08, 2009 1:49 pm ET)
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        That is a very, very, very good idea. It's amazing how much nuttery and outrageousness in the guise of opinion journalism is given some legitimacy by ads from mainstream advertisers.
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      • Author by toombsie (October 08, 2009 1:57 pm ET)
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        They might do it because they think liberal's will never see the ads so won't complain. If they get a large amount of emails on it they might change their mind.
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    • Author by lewislaw7153 (October 08, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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      Impeach him [for what] . .

      Then, the Senate w-i-l-l- ??
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    • Author by toombsie (October 08, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
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      They should have added an poll - "Should Obama be impeached because he is black?"

      I can see the results:

      98% - yes
      0% - no
      2% - undecided
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    • Author by snoopy (October 08, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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      REPORT: 'We Will Overthrow The Government' — Calls For Violence Repeatedly Stoked By Conservative Voices

      While discussing the Newsmax column on his XM Sirius radio show last week, Michelangelo Signorile heard from a caller, "Jim from Oklahoma," who explained that the idea of a coup is already being planned by a group of at least 200 people:

      Pulling our government down, pulling our President out, and putting him back where he should be [...] [using] the right to bear arms, it's in the Constitution. [...] We need a coup, there needs to be a coup and if the United States military won't do it, we'll do it.

      Jim confirmed that he was "dead serious." Although he was coy about specific details, Jim said that he was motivated by homophobia and an interest in bringing back slavery. A second caller confessed that her own mother has been scheming against the government because she has been captivated by racist thoughts and a belief that "Jesus is coming to overthrow Barack Obama." She pleaded for people to recognize the extremist threat against Obama.


      Imagine that, advocating an overthrow of a democratically elected president because he's black. Who was it again who said that conservatives could give a rat's @ss about the color of a man's skin again?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 08, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
           
        I find it hard to believe that a homophobe would be listening to Signorile's show.
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    • Author by RRKWISCONSIN (October 08, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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      I CAN NOT EVEN BELIEVE THAT THIS IS EVEN BEING DISCUSSED...IF A FEW MORE PEOPLE OFFER COMMENTS ON THIS IDIOT'S STORY, THERE WILL BE MORE PEOPLE DOING COMMENTS THAN WERE EVEN IN THE WHOLE "POLL"...
      (496 PEOPLE ACCUALLY TOOK TIME TO "vote" IN THIS POLL). IT JUST GOES TO PROOVE THAT ANYONE WITH A COMPUTER AND A LITTLE TIME CAN MAKE MONEY OFF OF A BLOG...CUZ THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE WITH NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO WITH THEIR LIVES BUT SCRATCH THEIR BUTTS AND COME UP WITH SOME MINI-CONTOVERCY...PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS VOTED IN BY A MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS...SO GET OVER IT.
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    • Author by shaggles (October 08, 2009 2:54 pm ET)
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      That's too funny. They were against impeaching Bush even though he lied us in to war, spied on people with out a warrant, ignored supreme court orders, etc. yet they want to impeach Obama because they don't like the healthcare plan Congress is proposing.

      I'm glad he mentioned this though:

      "Obama deserves recall much more than Gov. Gray Davis, and he was replaced by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in a special recall election Oct. 7, 2003, in California."

      Not the Obama part. That's just stupid. But why no recall of Arnold? The state is in much worse shape now than when Davis was Gov.
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    • Author by paul8616 (October 08, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
         
      I wish these dumbasses would figure out what they're really afraid of.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (October 08, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
         
      Three monster things jump out at me, two netted before I'd finished the first sentence of Floyd and Mary Beth's excellent dementia.


      #1 - It took two people to craft this? Really? Floyd couldn't piece it together on his own, eh? Swell.

      #2 - Let me get this straight (forgive me a moment, I don't watch Glenn Beck, so I'm suuuuuuper dumb at getting how things work):

      Floyd, a moderator on exposeobama.com, observed discussion about impeachment between conservative activists on said website and he considers this to be a groundswell? Was he shocked to hear such talk there or something?

      #3 - I hear so much about what he's gonna do or what he intends to do or what he wants to do that deserves action, but I hear so precious little about what he has done already to deserve impeachment/scorn/ridicule/whathaveyou.

      --

      Frankly, I wish these people would have a nice, hot cup of STFU, so thinking people can spend their time properly taking Obama to task for failing to do what he said he came to do (get out of Iraq, get a public option done, ax Blackwater, etc etc etc) instead of swatting down moonbat (f)lies all the time.
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    • Author by RealTruthseeker (October 08, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
         
      In a way, I'd love these people to emerge from the veil of the kooky-con WND into the mainstream.

      If anything will show how superbly asinine and crazy these people are, it would be bringing these cockroaches out of their rotted woodwork into the light.


      It would be a pure joy to see these crackpots try to put together a case of impeachment against a President who won office by a comfortable margin.
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    • Author by ajaye (October 08, 2009 8:18 pm ET)
         
      Da kidz in da townhall wanna a do over! S'not fair, not fair, not fair! We hates him, we hates him, we hates him! He's not our friend! Waaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Author by doncl (October 08, 2009 9:52 pm ET)
         
      This is absurd. Even if there were any factual basis to the drivel in the argument above, there's no evidence of the high crimes and misdemeanors the Constitution requires for impeachment.

      As to Obama being a Socialist/Marxist, WAKE UP! He's barely a liberal. He's further to the right than Eisenhower was (who financed the highway system with a straight tax; if Obama did it, it'd be some kind of goofy 'private-public' partnership in an attempt to appease the dragons on the right).

      Wake up and smell the coffee, guys.
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    • Author by steeve (October 09, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
         
      This is a step forward. When they first wanted to impeach Clinton, they pretended there were crimes involved. Now they openly admit that they want Obama impeached over ideological differences.
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    • Author by captain dan (October 09, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
         
      There are not nuts in or out of the House for this to ever reach the floor. Besides being an uppity niger is not an impeachable offense.
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    • Author by SelectiveAbstraction (October 10, 2009 12:10 am ET)
         
      Avoid the rush later....IMPEACH OBAMA NOW.
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