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October 12, 2009 9:22 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Right-wingers are being encouraged to descend upon "liberal" media outlets in their hometowns on October 17, and protest all the unfair coverage. It's part of Operation: Can You Hear us Now, and it's a continuation of the Tea Party and heath care mini-mob madness, as activists follow the lead of their "American heroes" Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. 

Reading about the plans, this part made me chuckle [emphasis added]:

Be peaceful, respectful, but let them HEAR you and SEE you. Remember, they are hard of hearing and their eyesight isn’t what it used to be the last 8 years prior. They accidentally missed 2 million people protesting in D.C. in one of the biggest protests in US History.

And this:

Maybe we cannot repeat an assembly of 2 million mad-as-hell taxpaying patriots in one place, but surely those who longed to go and couldn’t would love to be a part of Operation "Can You Hear Us Now?"

Boy, irony doesn't get much thicker than this, does it? Right-wingers are going to protest "liberal" media outlets for being unfair and unprofessional. For being blind to the truth! And how do `wingers know the news orgs aren't fair? Because they "missed" the anti-Obama rally where "2 million" people were protesting in D.C.

Laugh along as I highlight the press didn't miss that story...because 2 million people never showed up in D.C. According to best official counts, there were actually 1.9 million fewer people than that; about 70,000. But choosing to inhabit their own parallel universe, tea bag protesters continue to cling to the fabricated 2 million number to show how the other guys aren't playing fair. 

Honestly, I don't think `wingers hate the press just because it's supposedly so "liberal." They hate the press because journalists won't accept the concocted version of reality that conservatives are constructing for themselves under Obama.

UPDATED: You know trouble is brewing when protest organizers have to urge activists not to show up with posters that feature a "racial epithet."

Can't wait.

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    • Author by AverageTodd (October 12, 2009 9:34 am ET)
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      This makes perfect sense. Operation: Can You Hear Us Now is calling for all these mini-protests and they will inflate the numbers of each and every one, and several that don't exist. By the 2010 elections their numbers will estimate that one billion separate Tea-Party-ists have participated.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 13, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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        Sorry to piggy-back on you here, Todd, but if anyone wants a quick laugh, go to the bottom of the page and check out the wave of new trolls. The "there were 2 million in D.C.; I know because my sister was there and she asked someone to count" entry being particularly funny. It's obvious that this article was linked to by some neocon site. That's fine--let the truth spread, even where it isn't welcome!
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (October 12, 2009 9:35 am ET)
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      I think I see the problem here. We expect the opposition to accept reality and they don't want to. It is an expression of mob mentality. If you can get the rest of the mob to believe in what you tell them, that becomes the reality.


      Other than that, what do we really expect?
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      • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 10:06 am ET)
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        Losing elections badly and the consequences of losing elections badly makes clear to me that this ideological minority has never been more angry with reality. The reality is that the economy is improving and America's standing in the world is also improving. This fake outrage on the part of fake news consumers is truly amazing. They're simply demanding more Fox News. Their NYC 'Can You Hear us Now' route actually includes a stop at Fox News from 4:30-5:00 to "give them a thumbs-up". Very strange time we're living in.
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        • Author by kydem09 (October 12, 2009 10:09 am ET)
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          The economy is improving? Talk about needing a dose of reality.
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          • Author by all your eyes (October 12, 2009 10:26 am ET)
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            Check the index of leading indicators, over the last three months or so:

            Latest Press Release

            Released: Monday, September 21, 2009


            The Conference Board Leading Economic Indexâ„¢ (LEI) for the U.S. increased 0.6 percent in August, following a 0.9 percent gain in July, and a 0.8 percent rise in June.

            Yes, the economy is getting better. Now, I believe this post was about denying reality?
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            • Author by kydem09 (October 12, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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              Let's look at jobs: employers cut 263,000 jobs in September and the unemployment rate for the month was 9.8 percent, the highest since June 1983. The number of job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs rose; the number of
              long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) rose; the civilian labor force participation rate declined; there were declines in construction, manufacturing, retail and government jobs; the GDP continues to decline. The economy is not getting better.
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              • Author by ScienceBuff (October 12, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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                So, in your alternate reality, current jobs is the only measure of the economy? You're definitely displaying your ignorance of economics. In any economic recovery, job growth is a trailing factor. We are seeing improvement in the leading factors which strongly suggests that the employment numbers will soon be following. In fact, we've seen the first sign of that in that jobless claims have begun to decline.
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              • Author by DellDolly (October 12, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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                That post by kydem looks suspiciously like a copy and paste - note the formatting with colons and semi-colons, for example.

                Must have come from the talking points that paid trolls get each morning.

                I just don't get why these posters who are obviously so uneducated think that they should be pretending to educate anyone else???

                If you don't know that job creation and unemployment stats will lag behind other economic indicators, you shouldn't be trying to educate anyone else.

                It's not like we created the way that economic recoveries are measured, after all! It's almost certain that those who do measure that will say that the recession ended in the summer quarter. And have you seen the stock market lately?
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                • Author by Brabantio (October 12, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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                  It looks like he copied the "The number of long-term unemployed" phrase from here. I'm not sure why that was necessary, since if that's the case he's just summarizing what that says anyway.
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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 12, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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                Hey moron, you do realize that JOBS are traditionally a LAGGING indicator, and usualy the LAST sector to recover right?

                Whatever I guess you know more than Wall Street does.

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                How's that Earl Grey treating you?
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              • Author by bintx (October 12, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
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                You do understand that the bleeding of jobs has slowed, right? BTW, do you know when the unemployment trend started? December 2007. Who was President at that time? Were you complaining then? I sure as hell was.

                BTW, have to taken a look at the stock market today? It's knocking on 10,000's door. My 401K tanked twice during Bush's administration. In the past 8 months, I have recovered everything that I lost beginning in March of 2008.

                Next time you post a C&P, you should really cite your source. Makes you look a bit dishonest if you don't.
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              • Author by The_Cat (October 12, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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                Here
                you go, kydem09. If you look, you'll notice that the numbers seem to indicate unemployment is leveling off. It will be at least another six months before it begins to drop in any kind of significant way. You'll notice that it begins to climb around the Spring of 07.

                The GDP is once again moving in a positive, rather than a negative direction. Wall Street is up. There are no strong indications of inflation.

                The long and short of it is that the economic slide has been halted, and things should begin improving across the board next year, which is much sooner than would have been the case had nothing been done.
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            • Author by NG_Officer (October 12, 2009 10:54 am ET)
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              I think kydem09 is conducting his own, one-man Operation: Deny Reality
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            • Author by ammy (October 12, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
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              Check the unemployment rate - which is reaching ever higher and even at that number doesn't include recent college grads, those whose unemployment benefits have run out and those who've given up looking. Great recovery. Guess you missed the lines of people looking for free cash in Detroit. Join us here on planet earth, where the economy sucks. Thanks to the stimulus and it's continuing stimulation of the deficit.
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            • Author by Commonman (October 12, 2009 11:37 pm ET)
                 
              check unemployment the last three months or so.
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          • Author by bintx (October 12, 2009 10:29 am ET)
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            I'm thinking you are the one who needs a "dose of reality." The economy IS recovering . . . we were on the brink of worldwide economic catastrophe a little over a year ago [a catastrophe which was CREATED by Bush administration policies, btw].
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          • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 10:30 am ET)
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            Go ahead, cherry pick and pop off, I don't really care what you and the rest of the naysayers think. Please, by all means, deny that close to all economic and financial market data is pointing to a recovery. And fear not, Fake News will continue to accept and report that America is rebounding under President Obama.
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            • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 10:32 am ET)
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              Fake News will continue to refuse to accept and report that America is rebounding under President Obama.
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              • Author by rms (October 12, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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                Oh, they'll accept it, but they will give credit to "everything is cyclical," and/or the Republicans in Congress for doing whatever they did - or didn't - do.

                Confusing, I know, but remember that the recovery in the 90's was credited to, in the eyes of the right, Tom Delay, Ronald Reagan, and the Repubs in Congress, not President Clinton.
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                • Author by DellDolly (October 12, 2009 11:39 am ET)
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                  Oh, no, Rush Limbaugh did this months ago. He started saying that the economy will recover in spite of Obama's actions when he realized that the economy was going to recover, and that Obama's policies were going to avert a Depression. He had to set the stage for denying credit where credit was due.
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                  • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
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                    DD, you're right about that, a few months back I heard a bit of Rush's show, I think on two consecutive mornings.

                    Day one was doom and gloom, end of the world "explanations" of how Obama was destroying our economy, pushing policies that were sending us into an irreversible downward spiral into ruin.

                    The next day I stopped by his clown show, he was more calm, telling the dittozombies that, of course, our economy was going to recover, and it had nothing to do with Obama (I believe he framed it as "in spite of" changes in the thinking that led us to this recession).

                    I've said it before, but it's still scary how many conflicting ideas the True Believers can accept in a short period of time.
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          • Author by Midnight Kevin (October 12, 2009 10:31 am ET)
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            It may not be improving as fast as expected, but the economy is slowly getting back on track. The DOW is at 9915, up from it's low of 6469. Unemployment is still higher then average, but the economy is repairing itself.

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            The Midnight Review
            Mum Is The Word
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            • Author by kydem09 (October 12, 2009 10:49 am ET)
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              The Dow means nothing in terms of economic recovery.
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              • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 12, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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                Then why, when there was an occasional downturn in the Dow during the Clinton administration, did some people on your side call it a "Clinton Crash"? I also remember times when the Dow was used as proof of economic health during Bush's reign.

                Obviously, the Dow isn't everything. But neither is it "nothing."
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              • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 10:58 am ET)
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                There you go again, denying that close to all economic and financial market data is pointing to a recovery. You're a cherry picking cutie!
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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 12, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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                You. Are. An. Idiot.

                The Dow Jones Industrial Average is the single most commonly used economic indicator.

                In trying to argue otherwise you are removing all doubt that you are a fool. Better to keep quiet and just let us THINK it than to remove all doubt, as you have done.

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                You do realize the earth is round, and that Santa was actulayy your parents, right?
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              • Author by bintx (October 12, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
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                Since when?
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                • Author by The_Cat (October 12, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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                  My guess since it became a traitor that appeared to support the idea that the stimulus President Obama signed is having some positive effect.
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            • Author by DellDolly (October 12, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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              In actuality, the economy is improving faster than what they thought it would do. The stimulus has been working pretty well.
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              • Author by pete592 (October 12, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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                I'd like to add that the stimulus was and still is a plan designed to be implemented over the course of a couple of years, not a few months. Much of it has yet to be dispersed and put to work. It took 30 years of Reaga-Clinto-Bush-anomics to get where we are, yet the Campaign For Obama's Failure is declaring failure because the ship isn't being righted overnight.
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                • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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                  Pete, that brings up yet another of the wingnuts self-contradicting two-pronged attacks. I recall getting into this one with a few posters here, at least until I tired of bashing my head into a wall.

                  The two main whining-points from the Dittobots were as follows;

                  1. The Stimulus Plan is doing too much, too quickly.

                  2. The Stimulus Plan is doing very little, and taking too long to do it.

                  These were not coming from different con posters who were in disagreement, but from individuals covering their crazy-bases by arguing both points.

                  Denying reality seems to be a way of life on the far right.
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                  • Author by DellDolly (October 12, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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                    Yes, you make a good point. They act like they're just finding out that much wasn't intended to be spent immediately, and forgetting that there are very good reasons to still be enriching the economy today.
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              • Author by bintx (October 12, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
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                Exactly. Most economists have said that, without the stimulus, the unemployment figures would be MUCH higher.
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (October 12, 2009 11:04 am ET)
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          The problem with the comments below is that they follow the deny anything that doesn't jive with your version of reality.

          It is a given that, if you don't have a job, then things are not improving, from your perspective. An argument can be made either wasy about just what is going to happen to the economy and what the causes are.

          If things improve more than what was expected, certain people will say that it improved "in spite of" the current policies.
          Others will say that the improvement was "because of" current policies.
          You can bang heads about this all day long and not "prove" anything.

          When economists can't agree about what does and doesn't work, how can we expect a politician, or John Q. Public, to have a clue.
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          • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 11:20 am ET)
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            I hear yeah, but my opinion of things improving was really just an aside to my post, which was meant mainly to point out that these so-called protesters are planning to rally at Fox News headquarters at 4:30. Here's hoping Fox News trains its cameras out the window at that time to catch the 32 or so fake news consumers.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (October 12, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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              You have obviously not seen the newest morphing technologies at work. Thirty two people in the parking lot can be morphed into 2 million.

              Hey, maybe that is where they are getting their tea bag numbers.
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
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                Early projections from the Fox Division of Future Reporting Time Machine Dept. are indicating that the "Can you hear us still whining?" protest will draw people in numbers that humans are not able to comprehend, and don't even have words for.

                They will all be handsome, well dressed,physically fit, and have very reality based, coherent complaints about specific policies..

                The group will be composed of a diverse, bi-partisan group of patriotic Americans who were bottling up their unhinged hysteria for eight years of the Bush administration, but could no longer take it as a president who they claim has done nothing attempts to destroy everything they believe in and take their country away from them.
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        • Author by krique (October 14, 2009 5:35 pm ET)
             
          Economy improving? What alternate universe do you live in? I have two grown sons, 34 and 27 who are out of work here in California. We have the highest sales tax, gas tax in the nation and now with Obama we can thank him for the new higher costs in health care! Love the improvement.As for the "ANGRY MOB" holding up signs in the public square to show their concern for governmental take over of health care and the dismantling of a large part of the of the free enterprise system, I'll be sure to let my soccer mom, church goer, neighbor, and senior friends know they need to keep it down the next time they are utilizing one of their Constitutional Rights.
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      • Author by ammy (October 12, 2009 5:55 pm ET)
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        You're speaking about the left, of course. Ask for a reasonable, rationale explanation of positions and you get name calling and tantrum throwing. And they call the right wingnuts. lol
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        • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 13, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
             
          You're speaking about the left, of course. Ask for a reasonable, rationale [sic] explanation of positions and you get name calling and tantrum throwing. And they call the right wingnuts. lol

          If that's your view of the left, you certainly are a wingnut. Enjoy your visit here on Earth.
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      • Author by david286 (October 14, 2009 10:10 am ET)
           
        Kind of like the Health Care take over reality?

        Mob rule = Democracy - ie Democrats

        Rule of law = Republic - ie Republicans

        If you no longer want to live under the Republic set down by the Constitution and would rather live in a socialist fantasy world move to Canada or the UK. If you are really desperate for totalitarian control of your life, Russia, Cuba, or Venezuela would be perfect for your reality check. Either way stop trying to socialize America and leave.

        PS. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
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    • Author by Bad News (October 12, 2009 9:38 am ET)
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      Irony, Now there is a Word to describe the Right-Wing Policy.
      It's a Sad Day when Lies & Deceit are your best Quality.
      Limbaugh & Beck are two Pigs at the same Trough.
      It wouldn't surprise me at all if each weekend they got together and played Golf.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by MrPlow99 (October 12, 2009 10:08 am ET)
         
      One of their "sign ideas" is, wait for it... "Lessons on Counting"

      I guess that means counting those 70k people about 28 times each in order to come up with 2 million.
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    • Author by allanbrauer (October 12, 2009 10:17 am ET)
         
      Well, New Yorkers, your mission is clear. See you all in front of Fox News HQ this Saturday.
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    • Author by vysotsky (October 12, 2009 10:24 am ET)
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      Oh now this is just pathetic. Will the next protest be called, "Operation: We Have No Coherent Message But We Demand Attention!"?

      This is a media event designed to get attention for no other reason than to protest how they will not be given attention because newsmedia are so terribly biased. Will this protest feature speakers who get up on stage and repeat "Testing, one, two... is this thing on?... testing..." over and over again as well?

      I'm not against demonstrations demanding to be heard when a group has actually been silenced or its grievances have been systematically ignored. But this group's grievance is what? That they're "mad as hell"? I mean for goodness' sake, look at some of their suggested signs:

      "This is a marathon Not a sprint" (What is "this" exactly?)
      "Truth or Consequences" (A lovely town in New Mexico)
      "Silence in Consent" (Not to nitpick, but shouldn't that be "Silence IS Consent?)
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 12:46 pm ET)
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        Very nice, Vysotsky, summed up perfectly the absurdity of these "protests". Truth or Consequences was also a popular 1960s tv game show hosted by Bob Barker, and may have been the last thing many of the teabaggers understood completely, as the world has refused to stand still for them.

        I also think that the "mad as hell" theme fits pretty well, but more in the British usage of "mad" than in our use of it for "angry". As in, "Stark-raving batsh*t crazy as hell, and we don't know why!!".
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        • Author by vysotsky (October 12, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
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          Not just the British usage: this is precisely the pun from Network that's lost upon the Tea Partiers and 9/12'ers and the rest. Howard Beale wasn't just "mad as hell", he was also the "Mad Prophet of the Airwaves."
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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            Right, I only meant that it's used more commonly by Brits to mean crazy, rather than angry.
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            • Author by vysotsky (October 12, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
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              Oh agreed, I'm just adding that they don't seem to appreciate even the original context either. You're absolutely right, though, about the more common meaning of "mad" by British English speakers. (I imagine that the Tea Party crowd would consider the British English usage to be, what, too European Elitist?)
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        • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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          They know why they're "mad as hell" -- they woke up on the morning on November 5, 2008 and learned that they, the later dubbed "teabaggers", are the minority. This is a golden age. [g]od bless America[!]
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 12, 2009 10:30 am ET)
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      So please stay away from the following messages:

      No Anti-Obama, Anti-Pelosi, Anti-Reid, etc messages
      No Obamacare / Healthcare messages
      No "Liar" related
      No name calling (e.g. dumb, stupid, racial epithet, etc.)
      No Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh for President



      LOL...! What...none of the above!?! The tea baggers will be wondering what's the point...how the hell can they protest without name calling? ;>)
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      • Author by Max Credits (October 12, 2009 10:40 am ET)
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        Seriously, this is going to be the worst protest march ever.
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        • Author by rms (October 12, 2009 10:47 am ET)
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          ...but I bet that Fox will report somewhere between 80 and 100 million paricipants, give or take.
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      • Author by vysotsky (October 12, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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        "So please stay away from the following messages..."

        Stay away from the following messages? Uh-oh, it sounds like the organizers are trying to silence and censor and discourage dissent among the demonstrators! Well I for one won't stand for this. I invite those of you planning to attend these rallies who feel that the "Can You Hear Us Now?" organizers are deaf to their concerns to protest the protest with your own counter-demonstration. I would suggest holding up signs like, "We Will Not Be Silenced By Those Who Refuse To Be Silenced!", "[Censored Racial Epithet Here]", and "Hey, Over Here!"
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (October 12, 2009 11:03 am ET)
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          Yea...what happened to their First Amendment rights? Censorship...! <sarcasm>
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 12, 2009 11:08 am ET)
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        At least they're admitting, sort of, that those signs are not good for their cause. I would add the following:

        No "Get a Brain Morans" or other embarrassing projections

        No pandering to Fox News in the hopes of being put on camera

        No taking video of Fox News working up the crowd

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
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          No "Get a Brain Morans" or other embarrassing projections


          They also could have included some advice to have a 6th grader check all protest signs for grammar and spelling, so the embarrassment can be confined to content.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 12, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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        What I love is the explicit acknowledgement that the previous tea parties haven't had coherent and on-point messages.

        Without these directions and prohibitions, the signs were obscene and truly offensive and racist and sexist.

        It just points out how lacking in a real point these protests are - if they have a problem with deficit spending or losing rights or government takeover, they should have been out protesting during the Bush Administration, but they weren't.
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        • Author by dunesleeper (October 12, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
             
          Thousands Protest Bush Policy

          United for Peace and Justice

          Protest Bush

          Protesting Bush: If Not Now When

          These came up on the first page of a google search. There were protests of Bush. They were not well-reported.

          I was horrified by Bush -- could not stand to look at him. However, all I see with Obama is another power-hungry dictator enjoying the lap of luxury, spending our tax dollars on fine foods and jet fuels, and leading this country down into socialism. I say down into socialism because I think that socialism is an inferior style of government.

          Bush let this happen. He screwed up so badly that the whole country went for this hope and change that Obama was spewing. The problem is, in my opinion, that it is the same government. Government is going to screw you if it can. The more power you give government, the easier it will be for them to screw you.

          So, if indeed conservatives are a minority now, so be it. I really don't know the numbers. I stand for myself only.
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    • Author by phredicles (October 12, 2009 10:42 am ET)
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      Sounds like someone's having yet another temper tantrum, this time over no one buying their blatantly made-up (= "You LIE") claim of 2 million teabaggers in one place. They're acting more and more like a cult all the time.

      On a somewhat related note, does anyone know approximately how many people were demonstrating for civil rights for gay Americans in DC yesterday? I've seen articles saying "tens of thousands", but how many tens: 2? 5? 8?
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      • Author by Übermensch (October 12, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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        We had a university, I think it's University of -- I don't remember which university it is -- um, look at the pictures. And you know, they can do body space and calculate, 1.7 million, that crowd was estimated.
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    • Author by Ecotopian (October 12, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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      So has anyone figured who is actually funding this campaign? The website is cloaked in suspicious anonymity.
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    • Author by The_Cat (October 12, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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      Well, they're wising up. Now, when folks like Dick Armey, David Koch, and Rick Berman get together to astroturf a protest, they keep the names of those responsible, including affiliated organizations, out of sight.

      They are not proud of what they are doing, which is why, when you visit the site, they refuse to divulge who is behind it and who is funding it. Rather, they would have you believe that the entire thing sprang into existence overnight because that many patriotic flag-lovin' commie-hatin' Amurcans finally found their voice.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 12:35 pm ET)
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        Rachel Maddow did a good job with the 9-12 / Teabagger protests, connecting the dots as far as who was pulling the strings. Glen Beck really should watch that show, Maddow puts on a clinic as to how to demonstrate real, meaningful connections between people and groups that actually exist, as opposed to scribbling a bunch of hieroglyphs on a chalkboard.
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      • Author by The_Cat (October 12, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
           
        Awwww, isn't that sweet? The cowardly drive-by thumbs downer didn't take the holiday off. :)
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    • Author by brian.briandonohue7464 (October 12, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
         
      I see that the Times has already started the very campaign you warned about last week. This kid Stelter appears to think that calling the President (among other things) a Nazi is healthy skepticism. At FOX, it all comes straight from the top
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (October 12, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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      not to show up with posters that feature a "racial epithet."

      Geesh, what will they put on their signs if they pay attention to this rule?
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      • Author by USRevolution2 (October 12, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
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        When Liberals organize a protest they have to remind everyone not to bring Molotov cocktails,slide dumpsters into parked cars on the streets,smash windows and take a bath . . . LOL
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        • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 13, 2009 2:04 pm ET)
             
          Ha-ha! Excellent sarcasm! Well, not really, but a terrific example of what a wingnut moron might say. Congrats!
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (October 12, 2009 4:33 pm ET)
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        They don't need to use any racist stuff, rw. Just clever political satire, like "Lyin' African", "It's the WHITE House", and Aunt Jemimah boxes.
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    • Author by mustardman (October 12, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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      I thought is was 2 Gazillion?
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      • Author by pete592 (October 12, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
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        Brazillion
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        • Author by Nobama2012 (October 12, 2009 10:18 pm ET)
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          by The_Cat
          "Rather, they would have you believe that the entire thing sprang into existence overnight because that many patriotic flag-lovin' commie-hatin' Amurcans finally found their voice."

          Hmm, "patriotic", "commie-hatin'", well, obviously "The Cat" scoffs at Patriotic Americans who don't want their country to slide into communism. Hmm, pretty obvious where you're coming from.
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 13, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
               
            Hmm, pretty obvious where you're coming from.

            Yes, he's coming from the side that doesn't have delusional paranoia about Obama sliding the country into communism. Bummer that you haven't got the sense to join us.
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        • Author by Commonman (October 12, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
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          I guess we will just wait until 2010 to see how much of a minority or majority those who don't see eye to eye with you all, are. Let's see whether all the dewy eyed voters for hope and change liked what they got.
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 13, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
               
            Yes, we'll see, but I'm not at all worried. You see, every poll shows that the Republicans are even more marginalized and unpopular now than they were a year ago, and are certainly much more so than the Democrats. Furthermore, in the one place they currently have power, their ideologies are being fractured by the pundits (Limbaugh, Beck and other crazies on one side; Scarborough, Brooks, etc. on the other).

            I don't see any kind of recovery for the right until 2020 at least, at this rate.
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    • Author by flowers78 (October 12, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
         
      We really hate these guys, don't we. We know that some things aren't covered in the news because THEY ARE NOT REAL. The Van Jones incident was a smear even though he really was a self-proclaimed communist, so what....they just didn't want a more blacks that could actually accomplish something. They are truly ignorant about the economy also...the price of gold has gone through the roof and they still seem to think we are doomed.
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    • Author by hollywd (October 12, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
         
      I think if any of you were actually there, or maybe just speaking with someone else in person, what you were saying here might be different. And you might actually live up to your name. You could actually be a source for the truth. There were definitely over a million there, my sister had someone do their own count while they were there. It was hard, but there was nowhere close to 10's of thousands, and anyone that watched the Washington cameras showing the moving masses for hours on end know the truth. Now if you are just talking about around the monument, then you might be close to the truth with 10's of thousands. Why do you think they would "descend" on the media? Do you really think it has to do with being part of the "fanatical right" or "Rush or Glenn"? Well, if you, you are showing your lack of knowledge and understanding. It is the average citizen who is TIRED of no real reporting, not hearing exposes on people like communist Van Jones, or pedophile protector new school safety advisor... Many, many corrupt people surround this president. Where is the reporting? Are you all afraid of something? This is why the average citizen both from the left and the right are "descending" on the media. To show them how many of us are tired of the manipulation of the media, the corruption in government, and we are mad. So we are fighting to support our families, and keep government out of our lives, and the media from arrogantly twisting the facts. That's basically it...
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    • Author by USRevolution2 (October 12, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
         
      I was there in DC on 912 and there were a lot of people . . . 1 million, 2 million what's the difference? What I don't like is painting us as "racists." What a joke! I never heard one racial remark the whole day. I also saw a lot of black, Asian and hispanic people in the crowd.

      I grew up in Detroit, where the race card has been dropped so often it no longer has meaning. During the 1967 riots my uncle traveled to the most dangerous parts of the city at night to help found Focus Hope with Father Cunningham and Eleanor Josaitis. Focus Hope has helped thousands of kids, primarily black and hispanic, get high-tech skill, which have resulted in an opportunity out of poverty for many.

      I don't dis-like Obama because he is Black. I dis-like him because he is a Marxist/Socialist and so are many surrounding him. This country will have other Black Presidents in the future. I predict the next one will be Conservative,and when the Liberal MSM disagrees with him in the future, I won't paint them as racists. I will argue the issues like an adult wearing "big-boy" pants.
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    • Author by joespendo (October 12, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
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      "fake reality"? Boy oh boy does that post say it all! The opposition has no clue. They cannot fathom the reality, or the reasons behind the reality, that their "formerly" mainstream media that they still rely on for their like minded propaganda, has lost its standing because they have stopped reporting, and began promoting. The "reality" is that Americans have tuned them out in large numbers. FOX has the vast majority of viewership because they can be relied on, most of the time. Americans have tuned the others out. Instinct alone tells us the "former" mainstream media can no longer be believed.
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    • Author by Dac (October 12, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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      I was one of the 2 million in DC on Sept. 12. This article did a good job of giving me my best laugh of the day. I especially like the part about "choosing to inhabit their own parallel universe". If you only knew how much we would love to be out of your evil and evil loving universe.
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    • Author by Elizabeth293 (October 12, 2009 4:15 pm ET)
         
      You liberals aren't happy unless you're calling someone who doesn't agree with you a name. Just pick one, surely ya'll haven't exhausted your vocabulary. I didn't even know about the march until I heard about it on the internet. I had no idea Glenn Beck was involved, and I never listen to Ruch. But when I tuned in, there was an enormous crowd of peaceful, concerned citizens, you know, Americans. That the government controlled media didn't report it and still don't report the truth, is too bad for the country.

      You can laugh and call us names, but you can't change the facts. And though I'd love to be mean and spiteful, it doesn't serve any purpose what-so-ever. All I need to say is, I hope you don't have to feel the consequences of what's happening in Washington. And if the 2 million marchers and the continued effort of the Tea Party protesters have anything to do with it, ya'll will be spared. Sad thing is, you won't even know, but that's okay. You can keep your heads buried in the sand and still stay smug and all-knowing.
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