UPDATED: Limbaugh and the NFL: Let the pity party begin!
October 15, 2009 9:49 am ET by Eric Boehlert
We assume today's Limbaugh program will be insufferable as the host wallows in his humiliating NFL defeat, emphasizing that his long history of hateful speech had nothing to do with the football league resoundingly rejecting his bid presence, and that he's simply a victim in this play; that he's the victim of misinformation! In fact, if you hear the sound of pounding in the background of the radio show today, it's probably Limbaugh trying to nail himself to the cross.
Of course, the talker already has lots of support within the GOP Noise Machine, which has decided that multi-millionaire Limbaugh's failed attempt at a vanity business deal represents the most pressing matter facing the conservative movement and America today. They've whipped themselves into a frenzy as they work overtime to convince themselves that Limbaugh's humiliating failure doesn't say anything about how the radical right in perceived by mainstream America. And that Limbaugh's humiliating rejection shouldn't for a moment be considered a slap in the face of the right-wing hate movement that Limbaugh leads.
Good luck with that.
UPDATED: To get a true sense of the incoherent right-wing reaction to the NFL public rejection of Limbaugh, please go read professional Palin pal John Ziegler's name-calling screed at Big Hollywood. It's priceless, as Ziegler asserts that everyone/anyone who dislikes Limbaugh's brand of hate is ignorant. (And yes, that includes pretty much the entire NFL.) And nobody has permission to criticize Oh Mighty Rush because he has free speech rights....or something. (Note to Ziegler: Free speech protects your right to say things. That doesn't mean people have to agree. Just sayin'.)
Here's what's so satisfying about watching the screaming and foot-stomping on the right: Limbaugh makes his living smearing and insulting anyone who disagrees with him. And then when he ventures out of his protected right-wing talk radio bubble and tries to become a player in mainstream American culture and he's resoundingly told to get lost because people don't like the the type of smears and insults he wallows in for a living, his allies announce it's not fair. They claim nobody is allowed to question Rush or his motives.
Oh brother.
UPDATED: In an effort to explain away Limbaugh's failed bid, conservatives are now depicting the NFL (owners, players, etc.) as a collection of brain-dead fools. Specifically, writers like Andy McCarthy at NRO claim it was Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who alone turned the tide against Limbaugh in the NFL, and that the multi-billion dollar football industry was completely hoodwinked by a pair of "race baiters."
Hey, if makes you feel better Andy, then by all means keep believing it was Sharpton (who belatedly penned a single letter to the NFL) and Jackson (who also belatedly wrote a letter in protest) who ultimately convinced NFL millionaires to tell Rush to get lost.
P.S. McCarthy has no idea why people think Rush has a problem with race, because he treats people just like Martin Luther King did.
Right. And which MLK quote does this Limbaugh quip remind you of:
"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black."
UPDATED: More from the right-wing's stellar, the-NFL-are-a-bunch-of-jerks-anyway defense.
UPDATED: Notes Salon's Joan Walsh:
Even as he denies it, Limbaugh is making himself the face of the Republican opposition, and today that face is puffy and tear-streaked and red with self-pitying rage.
UPDATED: Surprise! Limbaugh is serving a vintage whine this afternoon. And suddenly, the NFL, that GOP bastion which Limbaugh praised earlier this week as the undying object of his love and admiration, is a nothing more than a snake pit. It's "an outpost of liberalism and racism."
Now he tells us!
UPDATED: Rush dips into the classic rock archives and announces he's been the victim of a "high-tech lynching."
UPDATED: No, wait. It's all Bob Costas' fault!
UPDATED: And for the record, Limbaugh on his program today also blamed sports writers, Democrats, the players union, Al Sharpton, and Obama (among others) for the talker's humiliating purchase fiasco.
Like I mentioned at the top, that pounding you heard in the background of Limbaugh's show today was the sound of him trying to nail himself to the cross.
Bill O'Reilly's Cracker Box Team couldn't seem to find that Racist Quote.
Rush Limbaugh made this statement with full knowledge of its Racial Division.
Now he wants us all to believe he never mady any Racist Statements in his latest Revision?
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
I cant wait to see the tears flow down your sad little pathetic faces lol
1. I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.
2. You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.
3. Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?
4. Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa , you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia . You do the same thing.
5. Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.
6. The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.
7. They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?
8. Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).
9. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.
10. Limbaugh attacks on Obama. Limbaugh has called Obama a ‘halfrican
American’ has said that Obama was not black but Arab because Kenya is an Arab region, even though Arabs are less than one percent of Kenya . Since mainstream America has become more accepting of African-Americans, Limbaugh has decided to play against its new racial fears, Arabs and Muslims. Despite the fact Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School , Limbaugh has called him an ‘affirmative action candidate.’ Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ using an antiquated Jim Crow era term for black a man who many Americans are supporting for president. Way to go Rush.
11. I think the guy's wrong. I think not only it was racism, it was justifiable racism. I mean, that's the lesson we're being taught here today. Kid shouldn't have been on the bus anyway. We need segregated buses -- it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama's America .
On second thought, why don't you just foam at the mouth some more.
Your point is specious.
He can dish it out, but he can't ......
Do you have a link to the story here on MMFA with the false comments? Eagerly awaiting your response (not).
You'll have to try harder to accuse MMFA (which didn't even write the quote in question) of making "false comments".
Your racist hero has been hoisted on his own petard?
How dare America repudiate the fetid puss-filled spewings of the your rhetorical messiah!
Why, it's almost as if America - both side of the political spectrum no less - want no part of you and your ilk.
Rise up and shake your tea-bags you lovers of Rush! Show us who you really are! Please?
WOW!!! YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT? Those two words have never described anyone in the Republican Party!!! Good try, try again!!! If you were the least bit rational, you wouldn't be defending with such fervor a man who uses incendiary commentary to make a dollar.
When will all the media and MMFA apoloize for calling Limbaugh a racist?
I'm sure he'll feel better now.
When H*LL freezes over!
When will all the media and MMFA apoloize for calling Limbaugh a racist?
How bout when it's no longer true?
What I'm saying is that you are gripping about TWO QUOTES which may or may not be true and which MMFA has reported, accurately, are UNDER INVESTIGATION. It's the man's entire BODY of work which has created his problems and he alone is responsible for them. His racist comments have been available for all to hear on a daily basis. When those TWO QUOTES are determined to be false or true, I'm sure MMFA will do what you've asked. They REPORTED that there were two quotes under investigation, I'm really not sure what else you want them to do at this point.
BTW, this isn't a "leftie" v. a "rightie" issue, no matter how much Rush and his Rushbots want it to be. The man said stupid, racist things throughout his career and the NFL wants NO part of him. I mean, he got FIRED for one of his televised racist comments.
No, I just don't think he's a racist. Period. Offensive commentary does equate to racism in my book.
please insert foot into mouth
DOES equate?
And you are that thick to not think Rush is a racist?
Do you really think at all?
I have yet to see anything quoted anywhere about anything that MMFA has said about good ole Rush.
I think most of the people who frequent MMFA will be the first ones to defends Limbaugh's right to free speech, in the same way they also point out that a lot of his speech is at least devisive and sometimes possibly racist.
What we should not forget is that Limbaugh is an entertainer (I know that is really stretching the term) who has identified his core audience and works at keeping them tuned in. He does not have a problem with the fact that his core audience is perfectly happy with the devisive and sometimes racist rhetoric that he spews and he will not be changing this format, as long as the money keeps rolling in.
For all the pure capitalist out there this is nirvana. Finding a product, selling it to the market place, and getting rich.
Now, if Limbaugh, or anyone else, wants to complain that he isn't allowed to purchase the Rams, because of the product he has been selling, then they only have themselves to blame.
"...failing to retract the story it trumpeted here that listed those false comments." Again, what false comments? Where? No link, no citation, no evidence. Just pouting.
Did you mean this story? Because, each quote is directly attributable to Limbaugh, and each is shown in context.
Please show evidence of MMfA touting or creating propaganda, if you can, kydem09. It's quite a charge, but it is also completely baseless.
Well, all the other quotes that MMfA compiled from Rush's own lips still stand. There is this one quote from a newspaper article, which Rush denies and is still being researched, and you think that this lone quote is the only reason the NFL have decided they want nothing to do with him? Take a step back, gain a little perspective, and ask yourself if you really believe that to be true.
But can someone honestly say that it sounds FALSE?
Kydem repeatedly states that no-one here has said that the quote shouldn't have been used.
So here it is.
You don't seem to be able to comprehend what was written.
And if you're just talking about the fact they didn't fact check it, think about the why?
Why fact check every quote attributed to a racist scumbag if those quotes are DIRECTLY in line with his normal dialogue? If O'Reilly is quoted as saying "Obama is a plague on this country", do you REALLY need to fact check it? Of course not!
Conversely, if Olbermann was quoted on Fox as saying "Conservatives are a bunch of whiny hypocrites" I wouldn't need to check that either. Even if he didn't say it, it's EXACTLY in line with his usual commentary.
Now, if Rush didn't have a loooooong history of racism and that quote wasn't checked, yeah I would totally agree with you that MMFA blew it. But he does. And you're well aware of it.
The fact that MMFA is bothering to verify it after it was called into question and will (I guarantee) print a retraction if the quote turns out not to be correct puts them far above the right wing media you're trying (and failing) to compare them to.
Let's see, after reading the whole thing what I find is a blog entry that then quotes a local (St Louis) sports writers column.
This column puts forth, in no uncertain terms, how that sports writer feels about the whole Limbaugh Rams bid. In this column he does mention the whole "slavery/streets are safer" item that was linked to Limbaugh.
Then, in the blog item, there are several updates.
One is a quote from the sports writer where he notes, in his column, that the attributed quotes in the previous column may not be true statements. Also, there are other updates where the blog notes that the paper also made the same note.
I don't know where you came from but; that sounds like good journalism to me.
They posted a quote and noted who, where, and when.
When it was noted that there might be an issue with some of the items in the quote, they posted an update that listed these issues, and kept updating as the story changed.
The only way MMFA would need to post a retraction was if they had made the erronous statement themselves, not because they quoted someone else.
By stepping up and updating the story, as it evolved, MMFA has done what was right. Can you say that Rush, or Fox News, have been shown to live up to this simple standard? I think not.
Dear Kydem09,
Please cite a single falsehood from the above link. Can you find just ONE....
Again, one wrong quote is irrelevant to the big picture: Rush has a history of racist remarks demeaning African-Americans. You haven't refuted that.
It's as if you expect people to provide some sort of evidence to back up their misguided ideas. That's not the way it works in the Excellence in Broadcasting world.
Kydem09: I'm sorry I had to fight in the middle of your Rush Pity party.
------------------------------------------------------------------------Why don't you call into his show and cry along with him, you fool.
Just ignore
The slavery statement is racist but Limbaugh saying the "NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips" isn't racist?
The slavery statement is racist but Limbaugh calling illegal immigrants an "invasive species" isn't racist?
Is that it?
The bloods and crips thing -- I've read the transcript and I don't think it was racist either.
The invasive species comment was certainly politically incorrect, but again, I don't think it was racist.
And thanks for telling me how I live my life.
This statement says more about you than anyone else.
And it says, "You're a moron."
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Rather clearly.
OK, now you rock.
As long as we can all have fun with it, keep it all in perspective, it's all good.
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You're OK in my book. LOL
LIKEWISE! ;)
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LOL
How do you know these things were never said, Kydem ? I'm not asking you to prove a negative here, if there is no tape, they should be treated as unverified, or ignored.You don't know that they're false any more than anybody knows them to be true.To say that they were never said makes you a liar.
You said MMFA was "patting itself on the back for its complicity in the media hatchet job on Limbaugh."
So HOW were they complicit? They have NEVER misquoted the man. (If you can find so much as one example, that wasn't immediatley retracted if there even WAS one, then I'll take it all back.) Find. Me. ONE.
The misquotes you provided are totally superluos here. Limbuagh has more than enough ACTUAL, DOCUMENTED verbal coprophagia to get himself in hot water with ANY industry that 70% Black. (Or, really, any industry that not decidated to spewing right-wing b*llsh!t 24/7/365.)
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He reapt what he sewed. Screw 'im.
(torches it)
Burning MAN!!!
That describes just about everybody in the Democrap (sorry for the typo) party, mainstream media, union leadership, and left-wing posters to this web site!
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It's like projecting in 3-D or something!
"In Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering"
"Obama's entire economic program is reparations"
Obama is "more African in his roots than he is American" and is "behaving like an African colonial despot"
Obama "wants us to have the same health care and plan that he had in Kenya" and "wants to be the black FDR"
Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers"
"you can't criticize the little black man-child"
"The days of minorities not having any power are over, and they are angry"
"NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips"
Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an "invasive species"
Limbaugh repeatedly calls Native Americans "Injuns"
To name a few
If there's no crying in baseball, you can damn sure bet your rear there ain't any in football.
"In Obama world white kids get beat up by black kids while other black kids cheer them on".
Come on folks, Rush made so many racist comments in JUST this year alone. Too numerous to count
Y'know, this repeat until true tactic no longer works, bub. When you can actually show proof that what you say is true, we might listen. Until then, why don't you go and hide under your Glenn Beck sheets and wait for the liberals to make America work again.
Big bag full of mashed-up jackass, here.
Even though the Dittoheads tell themselves otherwise, Rush and his ilk are listened to and liked by a tiny, tiny portion of Americans. They believe their own rhetoric and convince themselves that they are somehow "mainstream"... until they appear in other areas and get ridiculed and chased off the stage. And then, of course, THEY are the victims (in their own minds).
It's a really, really pathetic group of people - they go on and on about personal responsibility etc, but as soon as they are made to actually stand up for what they say and believe, they run screaming and yell about "free speech!" as if that meant "You have to accept what I say!".
But beyond that, are the many black activists and NFL players who called out Rush just stupid? No -- they know racism when they see it. Rush and his minions might want to believe it was a liberal conspiracy that undid his effort to buy the Rams, but the players and the league (namely Commissioner Roger Goodell) whose words spoke loudest.
Oh, and you can believe what you want, the NFL made the comments on their own. MMFA and other media outlets simply reported what they were saying.
I call BS on that. Almost every NFL player I saw speak about this or read quotes of, referred to his comments about McNabb. I think that comment alone would have the vast majority of players lining up against any bid by Rush to own a team.
These "false quotes" played little or no role in the whole thing, it's the divisive and racially insensitive persona that Rush has cultivated over the years that did him in. The NFL doesn't WANT controversy. And if you don't want controversy, you don't want Rush.
"In Obama world white kids get beat up by black kids while other black kids cheer them on".
Come on folks, Rush made so many racist comments in JUST this year alone. Too numerous to count
Why do you wingnuts always have plenty of time to repeat yourselves over and over, but seem too busy to offer any evidence for the thing you're mindlessly repeating?
You've been asked several times here. Got anything yet? (Look at the part I put in bold in your quote, if you're still having trouble understanding this)
Even if no one can't tie many of those notorious past incendiary comments to Rush, what does it matter? Look at all the recent comments, on a daily bases, this racist idiot said since Obama came on the scene. "Obama the magic Negro".
"In Obama world white kids get beat up by black kids while other black kids cheer them on".
Come on folks, Rush made so many racist comments in JUST this year alone. Too numerous to count
As I'm sure some football players do. If you're parsing, it just doesn't work. Beck, as well, is the sum of all his scum. They have the right to say what they want but people may fight back. Fox has been spewing lies for years and they seem so aghast that people are calling them on it.
Perhaps this type of entertainment is over. Perhaps it was all a publicity stunt. If so, I think it backfired.
Of course not one mention on this link about Jackson's or Sharpton's horrible pasts which include much more abrasive racial comments than Rush has "supposedly" said. Like I said, go to Webster’s (for you lefties this is a dictionary), look up the word hypocrisy and you'll see the synonym is liberal.
Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm
But that still dose not give him the right to yell fire or scream his hate right!?
just asking.
Oh, and they are racially offensive to this conservative white woman. Racism really doesn't have a political ideology. It is what it is.
That would be figuratively, if you had shown it to be true in any way. Sorry, I know you probably picked up that misuse of the word from Hannity, but it's a pet peeve of mine.
Do you know what a token is, retardedinsf? Even one who has been black for over 20 years?
AND?????
Is that suppose to be some type of proof that Limbo can't be a racist because he employs ONE Black man?
The man's been Black for 20 years?
Once again, is that suppose to be proof that Limbo isn't a racist?
The fact that YOU think that knowing Black folks and employing ONE Black man excuses the outrageous, racist comments Limbo has made, says you couldn't buy a clue!
And back to Rush, he has always endorsed hard work as the way to success so what's wrong with this? He also has given millions to charity as opposed to Joe Biden, Al Gore, and countless other liberal hypocrites who give a few hundred dollars.
I'll skip the mmmm, mmmm, mmmm this time.
Is that why he brings it up so often?
The wingnuts just seem to be getting lazier and dumber all the time.
You leftists are so transparent. Like taking candy from babies (literally).
Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm
Talk about transparent.Literally. Mmmm mmmm good.
"Barack Obama has picked up another endorsement: Halfrican American actress Halle Berry." (Here)
"[I]n Obama's Amercan, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering." (Here)
See how Rush Limbaugh disregards skin color, retiredinsf? I mean, race never ever even appears in any of his comments, right?
Oh, I don't know if it's "political incorrect" but it's telling, when a person defending Limbo, feels the need to state they have Black/Brown friends and family members.
Let's experiment. Why don't you sing Barack the Magic Negro to your Black/Brown friends and family and see how they react.
It's too bad that too many people don't see this for what it is.
Rush....KARMA...you've earned it.
How dumb is Rush and how dumb do he think people are? Rush never denied making these comments, UNTIL NOW.
Even if no one can't tie many of those notorious past incendiary comments to Rush, what does it matter? Look at all the recent comments, on a daily bases, this racist idiot said since Obama came on the scene. "Obama the magic Negro".
"In Obama world white kids get beat up by black kids while other black kids cheer them on".
Come on folks, Rush made so many racist comments in this year alone. Too numerous to count. Feel free to add to my list.
Yes, Bloods Vs. Crips, McNabb only highly regarded because the media wanted a black quarterback to do well ... genius stuff. Hilarious! <SARCASM>
The guy has elitist racism painted on the inside of his skull. I try to give everyone a fair shot, but he's used stereotypes to make fun of Blacks, Native Americans, Women...you name it, he's done it.
The wild thing is, that MMFA has these quotes in their context on this very site!
I found them in literally 30 seconds...granted I think they were just re-cataloged today, so that may have helped me out, but they're right here:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910130049
Just because you like someone, that doesn't mean they're infallible.
I imagine Mr. Limbaugh, sans ownership of a pro football team, will be just find at his castle residence in sunny south Florida.
Unbelievable.
Economic Fascism is just another branch of collectivism. I think some of the confusion stems from the fact that the fascist and the communist were trying to recruit the same types of minds. This does not mean they were opposites,though. One day an Italian man was a Marxist and the next week he was a National Socialist. This is only possible when you are recruiting the same TYPE of mind. As Hitler said, " The communists are the purest of socialism." The Nazi intellectuals claimed that they were, in fact, not fascists. They preferred to be identified as National Socialists. That aside, the Italian and German states were, in fact, the same from a strictly economic perspective.
National Socialism was actually a response to the International Socialism of Marx and Lenin. The International Socialists didn't recognize "artificial nation-states," but, rather, they saw a man in terms of class and profession. Because of this, it was very hard to recruit new members who were, quite often, very nationalistic. This is where National Socialism filled the void. It was still a collectivist ideology like International Socialism, but it relied heavily on race and national identity rather than class or professional identity. The National Socialists were not "purest of socialsim," as Hitler put it, though. They didn't want to entirely get rid of the concept of private property. They did nationalize some parts of the economy outright, however, but the rest of it was just heavily directed, taxed and regulated. They enacted numerous socialist programs and set up various cartel arrangements.
The fascist bargain works something like this for the large business: the state will allow you to keep your private property, but it will be heavily regulated and directed. Your market share will be protected through various regulations and subsidies. In return, the business is expected to go along with the social agenda of the state in return. It's a great deal if you can get it. Companies like Archer Daniels Midland(ethanol lobby), Halliburtion (military industrial congressional complex), and General Electric(parent company of MSNBC) come to mind when I think of fascist arrangements in this country.
General Electric is an especially egregious example of a modern day fascist arrangement. They invested heavily in various "green" projects that failed in the market place and now they look to the government to bail them out with subsidies and mandates. I noticed that G.E. was able to get themselves classified as a bank in less than a week to be eligible for the TARP money. Other companies have tried for years without success to get permission to engage in banking activity. I wonder if G.E.'s close ties to the Obama administration has anyhting to do with that? G.E. cynically goes along with the government's social agenda( "green energy," global warming, etc.) and in return they get their market share protected by bailouts and favorable regulations that hurt smaller market participants disproportionately.
The regulations are always justified in the name of consumer safety, the children, or the environment. It makes it harder to oppose the regulations when they are couched in this way. Our political capitalists, as oppoosed to market capitalists like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates, understand mass psychology very well, you see. Some of you are getting played(again). You're just not aware of it.
Cheers!
Hannity meat head Mark Lavin bla bla radio drivel they can,t handle the truth.
I'll never forget the quote from the failed Socialist Party candidate Norman Thomas:
"We will achieve every plank of the Socialist Party platform under the banner of liberalism."
He was almost right. Not everything in the platform has gotten through, but most of it has. None of you are liberals in the classical sense of the word anyway. Your intellectual heirs in the "progressive" movement hijacked the term and turned its original meaning on its head. Your statist ideology didn't spring from the enlightenment. It came out of the ideas of late 19th-early 20th century European and American intellectuals. You collectivist drones don't give a damn about the truth. If your leaders cared about honesty, they wouldn't be so deceptive in their selling of socialism.
The socialism has been sold to the American people gradually over many decades and it has been done piecemeal. It's always given another name like so-called single payer health insurance. Don't correctly identify government-run Ponzi schemes(Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security)as socialism, either. Musn't be upfront about the nature of these programs.
So spare me the lectures about truth and honesty.
I second you, Congero...Zzzzzzzzz. Wingnuts, if you're going to be ridiculous, at least try to be entertaining about it.
Healthcare was still affordable when we had something approaching a free market a couple of generations back. When there were people who couldn't afford healthcare or insurance(health insurance was affordale then too absent all the mandates)a moral civil society made up of charitable doctors, fraternal organizations, families, charitable hospitals and local communities stepped in to fill the void. The state has crowded much of this out. People have been programmed to think that the Levaithan State will take care of it. Now people think that they are doing there part for their fellow man by filling out a couple of lines on a tax form.
The caring, efficient civil society that springs up naturally out of society has been replaced by the cold, inefficient coercion of the state.
Congratulations leftists! You've done a great job!
You're never going to learn anything if you keep answering your own questions. This is about the continuing victim mentality of the right, and how Rush is using his failure to successfully negotiate a business deal to promote his liberal "media" myth, and, as usual, whine for some sympathy.
Sometimes propaganda is a little more subtle than "2 + 2 = 5". If you're confused in the future here, try to resist answering your own question (after all, if you weren't ignorant, you wouldn't be asking) and have a friendly "socialist" help you out.
Sort of. Have you read the mission statement?
wws
media vs. news...
Media:
News:
Now compare and contrast.
She seems to understand the nature of socialism better than the rest of you.
One last thing. I noticed one of the collectivist drones mentioned that this site was a nonprofit. I imagine that they have a staff that gets payed. Are they not profitting from this arrangement? I notice with sites like this one on the left and the right that the individuals who operate and run them inevitably get a seat at the table of power when their side gains the White House. That is a kind of profit as well. Is it not?
By the way, a poster misidentified me as welfare-warrior. That kind of amused me. I chose welfare-warfare state because the welfare-warfare state proceeds apace regardless of the gang in power. For proof of that, I would site the current administration as exhibit A.
Narcissist much?
Sometimes a post is soooo silly it gets a lot of responses to poit out the silliness.
Now tell me that you know the difference btween "media" & "the news".
It's the walking-down-the-street-peeing-your-pants conservative view of the world. "People are pointing and laughing, I must be doing something great!"
You really are wasting your time debating the liberal morons here. After racism and other name-calling, they have absolutely nothing.
They do not think, they just act on the orders of demagogues like Obama. And they act against their self-interest (and claim the right does that) as their leaders have no regard for them whatsoever.
If it were electricity, the collective smarts of the dozen or so regulars here wouldn't run a toaster for more than 2 minutes.
Have you noticed that just about everything you post here gets exposed as utter BS, and you lose every argument? You probably haven't.
Oh, and W/W? Nonprofit doesn't mean that the employees don't get paid. That would be volunteering.
It must be so frustrating for these wise men to try to debate the moronic leftist lemming name-callers.
I hadn't read welfare whiner's entire post the first time, I was so bored after the first few words, but I'm glad you mentioned the "non-profit" confusion.I read the rest of it, It was more unintentionally funny than I expected it to be.
Apparently, any non-profit organization that provides some benefit to anybody is, by definition, not a non-profit.Brilliant.I guess in the world of these numbnuts, in order to qualify for NP status, a group must prove they're absolutely worthless as far as making a positive difference for anybody.
Sounds like they're trying to skew it towards right wing groups.
Oh, then I guess his analysis did make sense after all! :)
Doesn't it seem that it's always the people who have the least idea what they're talking about who sound the most confident that they've made a really excellent and original point? Maybe it's the mentality you described above - if everyone disagrees with me, I must be on to something!
Other variations seen here from the wingnuts, when their metaphorical trouser-dousing is noted and laughed at;
"Looks like I struck a nerve!"
"Wow, you all are really obsessed with me !"
" Looks like the truth hurts !"
"I notice none of you have refuted my wet pants !"
" I can't believe the vitriol, intolerance and name-calling directed at my pants-pizzing.Where are those tolerant liberals I'm always hearing about?"
" I notice you pointing at my wet pants, but none of you has engaged me by addressing the substance of my wet pants"
All of the above may include some "lol"s
Posters who LOL at their own jokes is my personal favorite . . .
Human: I believe our health care system is badly in neeed of reform.
Wingnut: LOL ! So you're saying that you want to steal hard-working taxpayers money to pay for face lifts for welfare queens on drugs just to punish real Americans ????? LOLOLOLOL!!!
Have a great weekend!
Nope. (1) This site isn't socialistic, (2) it is dedicated to exposing conservative misinformation in the media, and (3) has never claimed to do anything regarding the lies of libertarians.
If you can be that fantastically wrong in your first sentence, I guess we can safely dismiss the rest of whatever thoughts you manage to assemble.
If his goal was success, and not more self-promotion, bragging, and general blow-hard noise-making, he would have kept it quiet until it was a done deal.
But nooooooooo, that's just not Boss BlunderRush's way...
There, all fixed for you. You're welcome.
As for Soros . . . his real crime was bailing GWB out of his last business failure and knowing what an incompetent he was. Since he actively tried to keep Bush from being re-elected in 2004, he's become a devil with horns.
And he justified it to 60 minutes because 'it would have happened anyway.'
He is a self-hating anti-semite.
What was that about the Nazis being right wing? Yeah right!
By the way, Soros has worked to destoy the dollar and has done quite while. More proof that the left who has thrown in with Soros -- MMFA, Think Progress, MoveOn.org -- are destroying America ON PURPOSE. That is the true mission statement.
Now this neanderthal chauvanistic pig is going to judge the Miss America Pagent? Can you imagine having to walk around in a swim suit (and high heels) in front of him? These women will be subjected to Mr. Drool's most hideous leers and sneers. And what will happen off camera?
Eeeeeeeyouuuuuuuu! Dog this dog!
Tell that to Plaxico Burress. And...Michael Vick did go to prison for his crime, too.
But there is NO such benefit for Rush to take into consideration here - he's doing just fine on his own, and neither his nor the team's success hinges on this deal's completion. It was a lose-lose for the NFL to allow Limbaugh to become part owner, so a much easier decision.
pity party. In fact, I have listen to Rush since he started.
After we retired, having lived in Europe for many years running our own business, we found that when we returned to the states we developed "Culture Shock" due to listening to the main stream media. We couldn't believe all the lies that were fed to us. All the time that we have listened to Rush we have really not heard any racist comments. His sidekick is black (Snerdly) and often he has Walter Williams substituting for him. the liberal media hate him, just as they hate Sarah Palin, and do their best to tear him down. What a bunch of hypocrites! I do know that any time the media does their dirty work, he becomes more popular.
Maybe you need to get your hearing checked...
BTW, have you ever actually seen Snerdly?
The libs just make up things all the time.
Ummm... I'm not sure, Aunty M. Do you mean that Snerdly is black? That's super.
The libs just make up things all the time.
For example?
Really? That seems a little out of whack. What did you use for a source of information while in Europe?
But that leads to uncomfortable questions about what type of business she was running there at that time.
C'mon Boehlert, Brock and the rest of you weasels, you now must prove the comments were never posted here. Can you prove it??
In fact , it would probably be pretty reasonable to expect you to provide that first, especially if you're going to call other people weasels.
You're not even really trying to be a first string troll anymore, are you?