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AP: statisticians reject Drudge-pushed global cooling myth as "not scientifically legitimate"

October 26, 2009 5:41 pm ET by Media Matters staff

From the October 26 Associated Press article:

In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented. The experts found no true temperature declines over time.

"If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," said John Grego, a professor of statistics at the University of South Carolina.

Yet the idea that things are cooling has been repeated in opinion columns, a BBC news story posted on the Drudge Report and in a new book by the authors of the best-seller "Freakonomics." Last week, a poll by the Pew Research Center found that only 57 percent of Americans now believe there is strong scientific evidence for global warming, down from 77 percent in 2006.

Global warming skeptics base their claims on an unusually hot year in 1998. Since then, they say, temperatures have dropped - thus, a cooling trend. But it's not that simple.

Since 1998, temperatures have dipped, soared, fallen again and are now rising once more. Records kept by the British meteorological office and satellite data used by climate skeptics still show 1998 as the hottest year. However, data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA show 2005 has topped 1998. Published peer-reviewed scientific research generally cites temperatures measured by ground sensors, which are from NOAA, NASA and the British, more than the satellite data.

The recent Internet chatter about cooling led NOAA's climate data center to re-examine its temperature data. It found no cooling trend.

"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record," said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze the trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means warming."

The AP sent expert statisticians NOAA's year-to-year ground temperature changes over 130 years and the 30 years of satellite-measured temperatures preferred by skeptics and gathered by scientists at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.

Statisticians who analyzed the data found a distinct decades-long upward trend in the numbers, but could not find a significant drop in the past 10 years in either data set. The ups and downs during the last decade repeat random variability in data as far back as 1880.

Saying there's a downward trend since 1998 is not scientifically legitimate, said David Peterson, a retired Duke University statistics professor and one of those analyzing the numbers.

Identifying a downward trend is a case of "people coming at the data with preconceived notions," said Peterson, author of the book "Why Did They Do That? An Introduction to Forensic Decision Analysis."

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    • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (October 26, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
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      Identifying a downward trend is a case of "people coming at the data with preconceived notions," said Peterson, author of the book "Why Did They Do That? An Introduction to Forensic Decision Analysis."

      I'll betcha David Peterson is wanna them liberal-biased Jesus-horse Deniers.
      ~
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (October 26, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
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      Don't expect logic and scientific evidence to mean anything to these people. All you have to do is ignore the evidence that shows an upward trend and only use the evidence that supports their "theory.

      The problem with the whole global warming thing is that if everyone believes it then they have to also accept that something needs to be done.
      (well, except the ones that think global warming is actually a good thing)
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    • Author by wesley (October 26, 2009 11:02 pm ET)
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      -- There has been a sharp decline over the past year in the percentage of Americans who say there is solid evidence that global temperatures are rising. And fewer also see global warming as a very serious problem -- 35% say that today, down from 44% in April 2008...

      Over the same period, there has been a comparable decline in the proportion of Americans who say global temperatures are rising as a result of human activity, such as burning fossil fuels. Just 36% say that currently, down from 47% last year. -- [url=Over the same period, there has been a comparable decline in the proportion of Americans who say global temperatures are rising as a result of human activity, such as burning fossil fuels. Just 36% say that currently, down from 47% last year.]PEW[/url]

      It looks like the Algore blitzkrieg on the American public has stretched its supply lines too far...and we know how that same tactic worked out for the Germans attempt at the conquest of Europe.
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      • Author by pete592 (October 26, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
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        So you've got public opinion polls and another paranoid Nazi comparison. Wow, I'm really impressed, Wesley.

        The Great Depression, Black Monday and the Mortgage Crisis all happened because America was mostly oblivious or living in denial. The majority that you so faithfully fall back upon has an absolutely abysmal record at predicting and averting disaster.

        Thanks, but no thanks. I'll keep paying attention to records, statistics and to those who have done their homework (and I'm not talking about Gore).
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      • Author by Salamandastron (October 27, 2009 12:25 am ET)
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        Wesley, you're smarter than that.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 27, 2009 12:33 am ET)
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        And it's stuff like this that makes it necessary and desirable to stop the nonsense coming from FoxNews and outlets similar to them. If they lose their credibility with other true news organizations, then their nonsense won't spark others to cover it and it won't mislead so many people.
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    • Author by wesley (October 26, 2009 11:07 pm ET)
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      -- There has been a sharp decline over the past year in the percentage of Americans who say there is solid evidence that global temperatures are rising. And fewer also see global warming as a very serious problem -- 35% say that today, down from 44% in April 2008....

      Over the same period, there has been a comparable decline in the proportion of Americans who say global temperatures are rising as a result of human activity, such as burning fossil fuels. Just 36% say that currently, down from 47% last year. -- Pew

      It looks like the Algore blitzkrieg on the American public has stretched its supply lines too far...and we know how that same tactic worked out for the Germans attempt at the conquest of Europe.
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      • Author by jonpin (October 27, 2009 12:26 am ET)
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        Well one of the awesome things about facts is that it doesn't matter how many people believe them; they're true all the same. I'm sure you wouldn't agree if I said that a decrease in the percentage of Republicans in the US meant that all of their ideas were automatically wrong, or that people withdrawing from Christianity was a sign that there was no god.

        I'm not even sure how to approach the Al Gore = Nazi Germany comparison. I guess it makes sense in your head... nowhere else, though.
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    • Author by wesley (October 27, 2009 8:51 am ET)
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      Settle down boys and girls...my comparison of Algore to Germany was not about Nazism.

      It was about the war tactic of blitzkrieg...making rapid and early strikes to overwhelm the enemy...only to find that the conquest was unsustainable.
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