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What's the WashPost's source for claiming 10,000 protesters gathered in D.C. on Thursday?

November 06, 2009 8:46 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Like Politico did yesterday, WashPost states as fact that 10,000 health reformer haters gathered in D.C. And like Politico, the WashPost provides no sources for that (generous?) estimate:

With the stage set for a historic House vote on health-care reform this weekend, an estimated 10,000 conservative activists descended on Capitol Hill on Thursday for a campaign-style rally in a last-ditch effort to defeat a bill they demonized as "Pelosi-Care."  

Question: Rather than relying on official D.C. estimates, did the WashPost simply rely on Politico, which seemed to rely on nobody for its 10,000 number? i.e. Was the WashPost just cribbing off Politico?

As we noted yesterday, here's the proper way to report on political protests, courtesy of MSNBC's First Read [emphasis added]:

NBC's Luke Russert, reporting from the West Front of the Capitol, passes along this photo of a cartoon Pelosi with the words "UNAMERICAN MCCARTHYITE" scrawled across. The crowd, per Russert, is so far about 3,000 to 3,500, according to Capitol Police estimates...

*** UPDATE *** Three Capitol Hill police officers all guessed that the crowd numbered at about 4,000.

Isn't that fascinating? NBC relied on actual police estimates and reported the crowd was 4,000 strong. Politico and WashPost relied on phantom sources and reported the crowd was 10,000 strong. Which report seems more credible?

UPDATED: Do we even have to mention that right-wing media outlets invented all sorts of numbers for Thursday's modest protest? (Two million? Do I hear 2 million??) The WashTimes, for instance, went with "tens of thousands." But we expect that from propaganda outlets. The WashPost and Politico though, ought to be much more precise in their reporting.

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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (November 06, 2009 8:50 am ET)
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      What's the WashPost's source for claiming 10,000 protesters gathered in D.C. on Thursday?

      Rush Limbaughs a** ??????
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    • Author by Fist (November 06, 2009 9:26 am ET)
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      The lawn area in front of the Capitol Building on the west side can hold 180,000 people. This is the amount seated at an inaugaration. It was not as tightly packed as an inaugaration event, but yesterdays protest filled the lawn down to the street to past both right and left "sidewalks". One can safely say there was one third to one half the inaugaration totals in attendance...
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 06, 2009 10:38 am ET)
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        One can safely say there was one third to one half the inaugaration totals in attendance...
        One can safely say that, because we have freedom of speech in this country. But that also means that others have the freedom to tell you you're full of it. Estimates of 3,500 were said by the Capitol Police to be a bit large.
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        • Author by Fist (November 06, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
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          I have the pics to prove...you got anything?
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (November 08, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
               
            If you have pictures to prove that there were really 60,000 in attendance, don't you think your friends in wingnutville would have some, too, and would have produced them by now?

            Furthermore, claiming you have pictures means nothing. Produce them, and we can discuss it.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (November 08, 2009 4:46 pm ET)
           
        The lawn area in front of the Capitol Building on the west side can hold 180,000 people. This is the amount seated at an inaugaration. It was not as tightly packed as an inaugaration event, but yesterdays protest filled the lawn down to the street to past both right and left "sidewalks". One can safely say there was one third to one half the inaugaration totals in attendance...

        Are you saying there were 60,000 people there? Good heavens, man, get on the horn to Hannity and tell him to stop claiming that there were only 20,000 in attendance! What is he trying to do, belittle Bachmann's protest?! Maybe he's secretly in favor of PelosiCare!

        By the way, it's "inauguration"; type it the way it should be pronounced, not the way you pronounce it.
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    • Author by Fist (November 06, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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      The lawn area in front of the Capitol Building on the west side can hold 180,000 people. This is the amount seated at an inaugaration. It was not as tightly packed as an inaugaration event, but yesterdays protest filled the lawn down to the street to past both right and left "sidewalks". One can safely say there was one third to one half the inaugaration totals in attendance...
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    • Author by mk3872 (November 06, 2009 9:53 am ET)
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      Let us not be surprised here ... Today's U.S. conservative movement is all based on and being led by misleading data, falsifications and conspiracy theories ...
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      • Author by Fist (November 06, 2009 6:03 pm ET)
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        hhmm that's odd...I actually was there, saw the crowd, can fairly accurately estimate the numbers based on previous events overhead photos and their corresponding estimates, and you accuse me of misleading?
        wow.
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    • Author by mk3872 (November 06, 2009 9:53 am ET)
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      Let us not be surprised here ... Today's U.S. conservative movement is all based on and being led by misleading data, falsifications and conspiracy theories ...
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