UPDATED: So, what really happened to Lou Dobbs?
November 12, 2009 11:52 am ET by Karl Frisch
So, what really happened to Lou Dobbs? According to The New York Times: "Months ago the president of CNN/U.S., Jonathan Klein, offered a choice to Lou Dobbs ... [he] could vent his opinions on radio and anchor an objective newscast on television, or he could leave CNN." This after months of intense pressure from those concerned with the content broadcast nightly on Dobbs' CNN program -- leading some in the press to describe the host as a "publicity nightmare" for the network. It is in that environment, that Dobbs announced last night his immediate departure from CNN, his cable news home for nearly 30 years.
Media Matters released the following statement responding to the late breaking news:
"For too long, CNN provided Lou Dobbs with its stamp of approval as he pursued a dangerous, one-sided and all too often false conspiracy tinged crusade against immigrants," said Eric Burns, president of Media Matters. "This is a happy day for all those who care about this nation of immigrants and believe in the power of media to elevate the political discourse."
Since CNN's Lou Dobbs first began spreading false, racially charged conspiracy theories about President Obama's birth certificate in July of this year, Media Matters for America has published 299 research items, video/audio clips, column, and blog posts about his misinformation and hate speech. Below are some of the most significant examples of work Media Matters has done -- this year and in the past -- to combat Dobbs' pernicious influence on the national dialogue.
The Drop Dobbs campaign and other efforts. Media Matters played a leading role in the Drop Dobbs Coalition (DropDobbs.com), which was launched to call attention to Dobbs' incendiary hate speech and falsehoods. Through this coalition, Media Matters worked successfully behind the scenes to persuade major corporations to stop advertising on Lou Dobbs Tonight. The coalition includes numerous national civil rights and other groups concerned about the kind of hate promoted daily by Dobbs on his television and radio programs. In addition to Media Matters in partnership with NDN, the coalition, representing over 2 million people, includes the National Council of La Raza, LULAC, the National Hispanic Media Coalition, America's Voice Education Fund, The Hispanic Institute, the Southern Poverty Law Center, Netroots Nation, Voto Latino, Labor Council for Latin American Advancement, the Center for New Community, Reform Immigration for America, the Dolores Huerta Foundation, the National Puerto Rican Coalition and the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials. There were also many others around the country involved in complementary efforts including the amazing grassroots organizing and activism conducted by Presente.org through their BastaDobbs campaign.
Media Matters released ads -- which CNN refused to run -- calling for Dobbs to be held accountable. In August, CNN refused to air a Media Mattes ad calling on the network to credibly address Dobbs' continued promotion of birther conspiracy theories. In October, CNN refused to air an ad produced by America's Voice and Media Matters calling out the network for giving Dobbs a prominent platform. Both ads ultimately ran on competing cable networks.
Dobbs repeatedly advanced false conspiracy theories about Obama's birth certificate. As Media Matters extensively documented, Dobbs suggested on his July 15, 2009, CNN show that the birth certificate Obama provided to FactCheck.org was not "the real document" and suggested on his radio show that day that it was not "the real deal." After asking if Obama should be "more forthcoming" about his birth certificate, Dobbs added: "One of our callers, by the way, pointed out that he didn't release -- he didn't release his medical records, either. Now isn't that interesting? And hasn't produced some other documents. What's the deal? What is the deal here? I'm starting to think we have a -- we have a document issue. Do you suppose he's un -- no, I won't even use the word undocumented. It wouldn't be right." On his July 21, 2009, radio show, Dobbs faulted "certain quarters of the national liberal media" for "absolutely trying to knock down the issue of President Obama's birth certificate." On his July 23, 2009, radio show, Dobbs addressed media reports on his conspiracy theories by declaring, "I do believe in a national left-wing media conspiracy in which they work in concert and attack like hell."
Dobbs used CNN to engage in wild conspiracy theories and legitimize hate groups. Dobbs' birth certificate obsession wasn't the first outrageous theory that he promoted on CNN. As Media Matters documented, Dobbs has repeatedly accused the U.S. government of secretly plotting with the governments of Mexico and Canada to merge the three countries into a "North American Union" -- a charge his own CNN colleagues labeled a "conspiracy theor[y]." Dobbs has promoted the smear that Mexican immigrants are conspiring to reclaim the U.S. Southwest for Mexico and at one point illustrated this theory by using a graphic sourced to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a hate group that "oppose[s] all efforts to mix the races of mankind." Dobbs famously aired a false report about a purported spike in leprosy cases linked to illegal immigration and repeatedly defended his show's reporting even after it had been proven wrong.
Dobbs had close ties to "hate group" FAIR. In September, Dobbs helped lead the annual "Hold Their Feet to the Fire" radio host rally organized by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) -- an organization the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated a "hate group." On August 28, Media Matters president Eric Burns wrote an open letter to CNN president Jonathan Klein urging him to prohibit Dobbs from participating in the FAIR event. Media Matters also documented that Dobbs used his CNN show to report on the FAIR rally without disclosing during those reports that he was helping lead it. A year earlier, Dobbs had broadcast his CNN show from the FAIR rally. In addition, the group has given Dobbs an award for "his continued efforts in leading the immigration reform movement through both his talk radio show and his television show." In the past year, Dobbs has cited FAIR as a credible source on immigration issues at least six times and has routinely failed to disclose his close association with the group.
Dobbs smeared U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce as sympathetic to "Mexico's export of drugs and illegal aliens." On March 10, 2009, Dobbs criticized Obama for delivering a speech on education to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Dobbs accused Obama of "pandering to the pro-amnesty open-borders lobby" and aired a clip of a FAIR spokesman saying, "We don't want the president to make it appear as if he's favoring one particular group in the disposition of public benefits." Dobbs also said, "Making a decision to talk about a national initiative on education from the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, which is effectively an organization that is interested in the export of American capital and production to Mexico, and Mexico's export of drugs and illegal aliens to the United States. This is crazy stuff." On March 17, 2009, Dobbs said he "made a mistake," explaining, "I, of course, do not believe that the chamber supports or condones either drug or human trafficking. My apologies to the ... U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, and I hope that they will forgive me for that misspeaking."
Report: CNN's Lou Dobbs problem and the immigration debate. In September, Media Matters released a report on the most egregious conspiracy theories, hate speech, and undisclosed conflicts of interest in Dobbs' immigration reporting. Among other things, Media Matters documented that Dobbs used his CNN show to report on and praise a Hazleton, Pennsylvania, ordinance targeting undocumented immigrants without disclosing that he had been helping to fundraise for the town's legal defense fund.
Report: "Dobbs' immigration obsession out of step with CNN's news coverage." In July, Media Matters released a report documenting the extent to which Dobbs' broadcast was consumed by the topic of immigration, and undocumented immigrants specifically. Media Matters showed that over a period of six months, Dobbs had more than three times as many broadcast hours that included briefs, segments, and panel discussions on immigration -- often focusing on undocumented immigrants -- as The Situation Room, which is three times as long as Dobbs. In word count, the difference was even starker, with Dobbs devoting about 528 words per hour to discussions of immigration -- 13 times more than The Situation Room's 40 words-per-hour average.
Report: Conservative guests outnumber progressives on Lou Dobbs Tonight. In May, Media Matters released a report documenting that in the first four months of 2009, 52 percent more Republicans and conservatives appeared as guests on Lou Dobbs Tonight than Democrats and progressives. These results were consistent with a 2006 Media Matters study on Dobbs' guest lineup.
Lou Dobbs' right-wing war on health care reform. In August, Media Matters released a report documenting Dobbs' repeated use of discredited right-wing smears about health care reform efforts, including the notions that end-of-life counseling could lead to "euthanasia" and that Obama said he "doesn't even know what's in" the House health care bill. Dobbs also touted GOP Sen. John Barrasso as "one of the leading experts on ... health care" and provided a forum for serial misinformer Betsy McCaughey to falsely claim that the economic recovery package would allow the federal government to eliminate "whatever" it deems to be "unnecessary" health care.
Dobbs declared, "Mexico has become our enemy." As Media Matters documented, Dobbs complained on his March 3, 2009, radio show that there are people "trying to control our political agendas" and "social agendas with political correctness, trying to control thought, and, of course, speech through political correctness." He added that while it may be "politically incorrect," it is "absolutely factually correct" that "Mexico has become our enemy."
Online videos used to boost campaign against Dobbs. Media Matters effectively used its official YouTube channel to generate pressure against Dobbs through new media outlets. The ad addressing Dobbs' continued promotion of birther conspiracy theories that CNN refused to air in August generated nearly 168,000 views online, and at the same time, led to a huge media presence both in the traditional and new media. Moreover, a mini-documentary Media Matters produced for DropDobbs.com received more than 60,000 views since the launch of that site. In late July, when Dobbs was repeatedly advancing false conspiracy theories about Obama's birth certificate, Media Matters was able to expose his efforts through rapid response videos, releasing four videos from July 27 through July 30 on its YouTube channel exposing CNN's Dobbs problem; the videos generated well over 80,000 views. All together, Media Matters' special rapid response videos exposing Dobbs have generated well over 300,000 views.
So, what’s next for Dobbs? In October, The New York Times reported that "Dobbs ... met for dinner with Roger E. Ailes, the chairman of Fox News, last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the meeting" and that one of those sources "said Mr. Dobbs is a potential hire for the Fox Business Network." Well, that move may be a bit tough to pull off. Fox News' Geraldo Rivera recently ripped Dobbs for his Latino-bashing rhetoric saying he "is not coming to Fox News." Following news of Dobbs' resignation, Fox Business anchor Liz Claman tweeted, "Clearly Geraldo won." Rivera is by no means Dobbs' only obstacle. Dobbs had recently been involved in an on-air spat with new Fox Business hire John Stossel. After the former reporter of ABC's 20/20 said "I don't subscribe to Lou Dobbs-kind of rants about immigrants wrecking America," Dobbs went on the attack, calling Stossell a "self important ass" and his criticism, "myopic idiocy."











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Mr. Dobbs was CNN's version of Sean Hannity.
By losing this Racist they have begun the process of regaining their Sanity.
This was the only way of avoiding a Journalistic Calamity.
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
If anyone "spoke truth to power", it was Dobbs: he to a good extent tried to interfere with attempts by the GOP, Dems, crooked business, and racial power groups to profit from illegal activity. The combined power of the illegal activity-supporting establishment is far greater than anything Dobbs had. Perhaps you should try your best to think this through in a bit more depth.
As for MMFA's screed, if you follow the links they don't tell you everything about what Dobbs has discussed and they don't really disprove anything. Not only that, but when it comes to the NAU, they're quite willing to take the Bush administration's word for things. In MMFA's world, the Bush adminisration was lying about just about everything, except for the things the Bush admin did that MMFA supported. In that case, the Bush admin was right (per MMFA). That doesn't sound too much like "speaking truth to power", now does it?
And, regarding the groups that MMFA is closely linked to, you might want to do your research before trusting what MMFA tells you. See my extensive coverage of the National Council of La Raza and of the League of United Latin American Citizens.
The first group gave an award to someone who'd proposed genocide.
The second group has a national official who's made "reconquista" remarks and whose CA chapter doesn't think the U.S.-Mexico border is valid.
And, MMFA is locked at the hips with them.
By the way, I read Lonewacko's links. Really, linking to your own site is juvenile, but where do you have any proof that MMfA is "locked at the hips with them"? Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. I believe that I can fly; if I jump off a building guess what's going to happen?
By the way, I read Lonewacko's links. Really, linking to your own site is juvenile, but where do you have any proof that MMfA is "locked at the hips with them"? Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. I believe that I can fly; if I jump off a building guess what's going to happen?
CNN along with all the other main stream media have their days numbered and nothing could make me happier. Justice comes to all.
Oh, right. 'Cause that's lame.
Did someone actually shoot a bullet into Dobbs house that just missed his wife? Sheriff's Dept. said it didn't happen . .
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Nobody was shooting at Dobbs, OR his wife.
I know all of this because I too am a secret agent of sorts.
Plus my new foil hat fits just perfectly.
No one was calling for his dismissal in the 90s when he was the loudest voice out there against NAFTA. He's fiscally liberal.
Congrats on your so-called "victory" MMFA, that you had nothing to do with. Someday your dream of every anchor and pundit sounding like Olbermann and Maddow will come true.
Follow this link if you want to learn something...
It's too bad that MMFA has no better grasp on their influence (which is zip)than to claim victory on this one. At least when Bush landed that jet on the aircraft carrier, someone had done something.
Because 'Anti-American' people -- of the same ilk of the jerk in the White Hoouse -- were leading the petitions.
"Congrats on your so-called "victory" MMFA, that you had nothing to do with. Someday your dream of every anchor and pundit sounding like Olbermann and Maddow will come true."
True, but their reports won't be heard over the chirping crickets.
That actually doesn't sound too bad. At least we would have some journalistic integrity back in the news.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Puh-leeeeze.
If Mr Dobbs had spent more time on tying specific American businesses to the use of undocumented labor, and showing their efforts to keep that supply of labor flowing through political contributions and the politicians involved, I would be curious to see if he would have lasted as long as he did. But he would have at least been doing journalism, and providing the evidence needed to drive the debate in the general direction he sought. Instead he wound up resorting to fear, and falsehoods that only muddy the debate. Don't you think the Chamber of Commerce appreciated the fact that their opposition was becoming increasingly seen as paranoid and racist? Moving to Fox or running for President will only further erode his credibility, and the audiance for his message.
The one positive thing I would say about Mr. Dobbs was his willingness to appear on "The Colbert Report", where Colbert went so far as to appear as his own"Mexican cousin" and spoke in Spanish. One can only imagine the reaction of some of his associates in the anti-immigration crusade when faced with that.
Oh, and the world would be a much better informed place if every one on air was as fair and civil as Rachel Maddow.
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Yes, Dobbs is now gone from CNN...but it's yet to be determined if he is off television.
You remember how this one worked out...
He's got many millions tucked away in the bank, and he's still got over 450 listeners on his radio show.
I just think the whole situation was pathetic. If Dobbs was a little more honest about his own reports, I would not think he should quit.
My main problem is how Dobbs would promote birtherism and then deny he was doing it or that he did not believe in it himself. Dobbs also claimed immigrants carried leprosy and then refused to address his own comments honestly. Dobbs claims he is a journalist, so that puts higher standards on him. When he gets the facts wrong, he needs to address it in an open and honest way. Dobbs lost his job by shoddy journalism.
I'll take your word for it, OM...because I don't watch/listen to his programming.
Anyway, MMfA mentioned some of the things I previously mentioned for further reading.
To be completely honest with you, Wes, I have only watched clips of Dobbs on this site and others (I've never watched his show in its entirety). Some (of the clips) defend Dobbs and some attack him and some just show parts of Dobbs' show. I think Dobbs was once a brilliant journalist - even on issues where I deeply disagreed with him, but MMfA did a pretty good job pinning down some examples of bad journalism on Dobbs' part. Dobbs oddly chose to be defiant from what I saw - instead of just admitting his mistakes.
I think a lot of the charges of "racism" against Dobbs are wildly overblown. I do not think Dobbs is a racist at all. He is married to a latina - which does not entirely give him a pass, but it is pretty dang good evidence he at the very least does not summarily hate latinos.
And that's the whole issue.
It's never been the goal to stifle debate or shut them up. It's been to make them lose credibility and stop them from being able to poison the debate with their inflammatory, distorted commentary as if they deserved lots of credibility! I think this works towards that goal.
The drop in pay coincides with a huge influx of illegal immigration.
Explain why?
That's easy, SOMEONE found they could hire more illegal immigrants to work for cheaper wages and longer hours, without complaining, making SOMEONE a small fortune.
And here's a clue, that SOMEONE wasn't the illegal immigrant!
Gee, I wonder why people like Dobbs are railing against the worker, but not who hired him. Seems to me that's where the problem lies. So why wasn't Dobbs making hay of that fact? Instead he chose to devote his time to claiming things like illegals murdering people and bringing leprosy into the country. Seems like a mighty back door way to hold the companies that profit handsomely from the illegal's labor to account. Oh, but that was never his intenton I guess.
I'm not saying they aren't true (though they seem ridiculous) but I'm certainly not going to just take your word for it.
My guess is you certainly won't be able to provide them.
Hope that helps you out.
There was an original birth certificate that would have been given to Obama's parents. Who knows where that one is now? It wasn't given to the infant child, right, you know that? It was either held by the mom or the dad, and who knows (or really cares) what happened to it?
What one does as an adult when you need a birth certificate - for ID, for a passport, whatever, is you go to the state you were born in, and you ask their Dept of Vital Statistics to go into their vaults and pull the original that they have in their possession, and you ask them to create a duplicate copy from their records.
That what we've seen, the COLB, which in Hawaii is what one gets nowadays if you need a replacement for the original birth certificate.
And the Hawaiian officials have stated that this is what they did. Obama was born in Hawaii. End of story.
Sarcasm can be tricky for conservatives. Good sarcasm is usually indistinguishable from genuine zealotry. Apparently you think using double exclamation marks substitutes for carefully crafted writing.
Yes, there is a leftwing conspiracy, but not of the media. That leftwing conspiracy wants to heal our nation from the rifts people like you have been tearing in the fabric in our nation. We want to stop allowing people to poison the well. The toxic nonsense keeps us from being able to spend the time we need to debating topics of national interest and instead pay attention to death panels that don't exist and conspiracy theories that are based upon lies, like the birther nonsense.
http://www.theonion.com/content/index
This was a battle won by many. Not a victory. Victory will be a half a dozen threads on MMfa a day. Not the spread that can take hours to cross as it is today.
Bids Earth Farewell, Boards Rocket
NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) - Controversial CNN host Lou Dobbs bade the people of Earth farewell today as he embarked on a long voyage back to his planet of origin.
Standing on a launching pad with his rocket ship at the ready, Mr. Dobbs addressed a crowd of dozens who came to wish him a safe trip and godspeed.
"People of Earth, farewell," he said. "My work here is done."
In his farewell speech, Mr. Dobbs acknowledged the irony of his being an alien but insisted that he had been on Earth legally.
By the standards used by Lou Dobbs (and many others, to be sure), I can simply use "some say" without having to specify who or how many makes up "some". As long as "some say", I have the duty to report it.
I really don't see it as a problem. Mr Rupert Murdoch, rumor has it, is looking to acquire another network. Possibly NBC/MSNBC. If he does, I doubt any fair and balanced news person whose only interest is the well being of our country, will be out of a job long. The problem, as I see it, will be for "reporters" like Olbermann, Matthews and Maddow. Mr Dobbs will have no problem with viewers as was the case with Glenn Beck. Conservatives will survive. It's the radical left wingers who will become dinosaurs.
We do have a problem with illegal immigrants and we should also do some investigative research into how this president was vetted. The media didn't do it and congress just rubber stamped him. Someone needs to find out for sure to remove all doubt.
Umm..... What does congress have to do with vetting the president? I thought we voted for him. I guess members of congress can also vote for whomever they want, but there are 435 members of congress, so I don't think they would change the electoral landscape too much. By the way, what "doubt" are you talking about concerning President Obama? Agree or disagree with his policies, it is completely clear that he was elected democratically. So what's your point? My guess is you just don't like him and have nothing of substance to say.
Face it. This is your game just as much as it is anybody elses (if not moreso). Dobbs got sloppy. He made some pretty huge mistakes and did not correct them. Any credible news organization takes a lot of heat and unwanted criticism when things like that happen. Dobbs was a liability to the network probably most comparably to the Dan Rather situation.
he was abducted by (illegal) aliens and anally probed. he was then replaced with a "pod" person, who looked suspiciously like kevin mccarthy.
it's all in sarah palin's book.
Dobbs is going to Fox News. QED