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No, the lefty Web won't get credit for Lou Dobbs' departure

November 13, 2009 3:19 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

To answer the interesting question Greg Sargent raised yesterday. As he noted, the Beltway press in the past has often been generous in crediting conservative bloggers for changing the game:

When right wing bloggers got Dan Rather fired from CBS, traditional news orgs widely hailed the role of right blogostan in exposing the shortcomings of Rather’s story on Bush and the National Guard and gave the right full credit for bringing him down.

Now that Lou Dobbs — also a major media figure — has quit CNN, it remains to be seen whether the online left will get anywhere near the same level of credit.

With the initial news cycle surrounding Dobbs' resignation complete, it's safe to say that most news outlets did not credit the lefty Web for making life difficult for Dobbs and CNN over recent months. In fact, most news outlets didn't even mention the role the liberal blogosphere and the larger netroots movement played in helping drive Dobbs from his longtime CNN perch.

This is isn't surprising at all. As I noted in Bloggers on the Bus, Beltway media elites have for years gone out of their way to downplay, if not flat-out ignore, the extraordinary impact liberal bloggers have had on both politics and the press.

From Bloggers:

Perhaps driven by feelings of competitive jealousy for the fresh generation of citizen journalists and their new found clout, or fueled by contempt for the bloggers who so effectively critiqued the Beltway media's often shoddy work, the press corps mostly kept its distance and chose not to shine a spotlight on the new generation of citizen journalists busy reinventing politics and as journalism. (That's when the press wasn't being openly contemptuous: During the 2004 campaign, a New York Times writer expressed his "half-sickening feeling" at the realization that the news agenda was being set by a "largely unpaid, T-shirt-clad army of bloggers.")

Instead, the press clung to its outdated blogger caricatures, portraying them as polarizing, amateurish extremists, downplaying their concrete achievements, and reluctant to tell the personal stories behind the creation of the blogosphere; the unlikely personal, and professional, odysseys bloggers took before securing leadership positions within the vibrant political community. (How reluctant? As of January 2009, the normally media-obsessed Washington Post still had not published--ever--a single feature profile of an A-list liberal blogger.)

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    • Author by reanna-mator (November 13, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
         
      I still have heavy suspicion that he was urged to resign, and that the fiasco may have even been nearly involuntary on Dobbs' part.

      This is precisely why "the lefty web" won't get any credit: because an attempt at a graceful resignation, no matter how awkward and indignant, can always be made to look like a personal choice.
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    • Author by wookie (November 13, 2009 3:29 pm ET)
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      If the left were credited it would be strictly in the form of "Stalinist speech police silenced a brilliant newsman!"
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      • Author by reanna-mator (November 13, 2009 7:36 pm ET)
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        True, but the Right's current message is "the democrats are floundering, conservatism is back."

        Which is funny in itself.
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      • Author by Publius39 (November 14, 2009 12:09 am ET)
           
        Wookie, you hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer.
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    • Author by historygeek001 (November 13, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      I imagine that the right wing is trying to decide whether to blame "far-left radicals" or to claim that Dobbs' leaving was coincidental and that they (those they claim are radicals) are not numerous or powerful enough to force Dobbs to quit -- except that there are somehow enough commie nazi socialists that in power that now Acorn is secretly running the government and any minute now they will be sending death panels to everybody's house to kill grandma.

      My guess is that they will do both; they will claim that Dobbs' "enemies" forced him to leave while simultaneously claiming that most people share Dobbs' views. They will not, of course, acknowledge any of Dobbs' inaccurate, race-baiting, extremism because that would show that their own positions are ridiculous.
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    • Author by historygeek001 (November 13, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
         
      I imagine that the right wing is trying to decide whether to blame "far-left radicals" or to claim that Dobbs' leaving was coincidental and that they (those they claim are radicals) are not numerous or powerful enough to force Dobbs to quit -- except that there are somehow enough commie nazi socialists that in power that now Acorn is secretly running the government and any minute now they will be sending death panels to everybody's house to kill grandma.

      My guess is that they will do both; they will claim that Dobbs' "enemies" forced him to leave while simultaneously claiming that most people share Dobbs' views. They will not, of course, acknowledge any of Dobbs' inaccurate, race-baiting, extremism because that would show that their own positions are ridiculous.
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    • Author by jpeagle21 (November 13, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
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      "Whaaaaaaaaaa! We don't get the credit we believe we deserve even though there is no proof that we deserve it! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"

      You want some cheese with that whine?
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      • Author by SFnomad (November 13, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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        There isn't any cheese left, the poor hurt creatures over at Faux Noise are still whining about the mean old White House.
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        • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
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          You got it wrong, all the whines are coming from the White House and the Obamanation. Help Michelle, Fox is picking on me again.
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          • Author by mary59 (November 15, 2009 3:45 pm ET)
               
            ? I hope that you are prepared to do a silly walk after this posting. With a few raspberries and a little French taunting thrown in.
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    • Author by paul8616 (November 13, 2009 5:57 pm ET)
         
      If media figures admit that there is a lefty noise machine (which we should probably call 'lefty signal machine'), then there's the whole issue of culpability to the right-wing noise machine. And nobody wants to admit that David Brock has that much power.
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    • Author by fairliberal (November 13, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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      CNN has stated that outside influences had nothing to do with Dobb's departure, who could possibly know better?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (November 13, 2009 7:01 pm ET)
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        The fact is that only Dobbs and his bosses know exactly why he's leaving. They've also decided what will be said about it, which may or may not reflect reality. Everything from the outside, including whether or not to believe their statements, is pure conjecture.
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      • Author by New Frontier (November 14, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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        CNN has stated that outside influences had nothing to do with Dobb's departure, who could possibly know better?

        That's funny, because that's what both CBS and Dan Rather said about Rather's departure from CBS. I don't recall the wingnuts saying, "Who could possibly know better?" at that time, or now.
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    • Author by johnny u (November 14, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
         
      is there enough space for me to say something?
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    • Author by Marge (November 15, 2009 10:11 am ET)
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      I wish the liberal bloggers would get with the fact that Coburn from OK is single handedly blocking a bill that would improve health and other services for veterans. This could make a big difference because the main media has ignored it. I know of hundreds of emails sent to CNN and I have yet to see a story. In fact they haven't even mentioned it. Telling the country continually that the republicans love our military.

      How about it fellow bloggers can we get with it and see if we can make a difference in the life of one of our veterans. Something the republicans are not doing.
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      • Author by mary59 (November 15, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
           
        Amen sis. I'm just glad that Dobbs is off the teevee for now, and let's get something done for the vets!
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