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Media Matters confronts Rupert Murdoch about Obama's supposed "very racist comment"

November 19, 2009 2:24 pm ET by Karl Frisch

Last week we learned that Rupert Murdoch, chairman of News Corp., the parent company of Fox News, agreed with Glenn Beck's assertion that the President was a "racist", because, in Murdoch's words, Obama made a "very racist comment." Of course, no one knows what "very racist comment" Murdoch was talking about.

Fox News was then forced to clean up the boss's mess issuing a statement saying that Murdoch "does not...think the president is a racist" regardless of what he may have otherwise said.

Statements and spin aside, we still don't know what "very racist comment" Murdoch was talking about. Perhaps if he was just asked directly, Murdoch would be able to clear up the confusion.

In an effort to do just that, Media Matters confronted Murdoch today on Capitol Hill for a little chat.

We are through the looking glass people. Murdoch isn't even spinning what he said about the president, now he's denying it outright. And to think we sometimes wonder where the folks at Fox News get their ethics from. Sigh.

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    • Author by pete592 (November 19, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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      Crikey!
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    • Author by Bad News (November 19, 2009 2:36 pm ET)
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      Rupert Murdoch looked Embarrassed.
      I didn't think he would after all the innocent people he let Bill-O the Clown Harass.
      It seems Mr. Murdoch can dish it out but he can't take it?
      Way to go MMFA, keep the pressure on & make them all have a Fit.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by goesto11 (November 19, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
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      This is all a huge misunderstanding.

      When Murdoch said, "But he did make a racist comment..." he wasn't talking about Obama. The "he" is actually Glen Beck.

      Glad we can finally put this controversy to rest.
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      • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 4:33 pm ET)
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        Can someone clear this up for me? So now, if you say someone is a racist, it is YOU who is actually the racist?

        If I say that the KKK is racist, am I racist, or would I only be racist if I suggest that militant black organizations spouting conspiracies like "whites created AIDS to kill blacks" are racist?

        Such mental jujitsu.
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        • Author by open_mind (November 19, 2009 6:54 pm ET)
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          The flaw in your reasoning is here:
          So now, if you say someone is a racist, it is YOU who is actually the racist?
          Beck be a racist, but not necessarily solely based on Beck calling the President a racist. Your premise is false.
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          • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
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            Your name is "open_mind," so can you tell me what makes you think that Beck is racist then, if it's not necessarily his calling Obama racist?
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            • Author by open_mind (November 19, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
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              I never said Beck was a racist. It was a typo above. It was supposed to say "Beck could be a racist". Sorry about my mistake.

              Personally I do not care one way or the other if Beck is indeed a "racist" or not. I think most of Beck's comments and views on "race" are very ignorant (along with most of his views on everything else) to put it mildly.
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            • Author by DellDolly (November 20, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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              Yeah, you should know by now that people who "ask" for help understanding something aren't actually "asking" for help understanding anything.

              People who say "can someone clear this up for me" don't want any help clearing anything up.

              These people are often trolls who are trying to derail threads.
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              • Author by k1dork (November 20, 2009 12:25 pm ET)
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                Sure, it's much easier to write someone off as a "troll" instead of discuss what they brought up.
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                • Author by DellDolly (November 20, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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                  Actually, I DID discuss what you brought up, but I ALSO discussed how you weren't really interested in getting ANYTHING cleared up.

                  And I know that trolls hate having their trollish behavior pointed out. Too bad, so sad.

                  I DID discuss both what you brought up, but I also brought up the underlying issue in the way that you did it.

                  You aren't a victim here. You were trying, and in some ways succeeding, in making us YOUR victim, because you didn't really want anything cleared up, despite your request that we do so. And I know that trolls like you don't like having their demands for us to 'clear stuff up' for them called out for the dishonesty that hides under the surface, but again, too bad, so sad.
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        • Author by goesto11 (November 20, 2009 7:11 am ET)
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          Calling Obama a racist doesn't make Beck a racist.

          Hating non-whites is what makes Beck a racist.
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    • Author by neon desert (November 19, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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      I'm shocked. This is the first I've heard of this. Normally, I'm pretty up-to-date on the state of the media, however this is the first accusation I'm aware of that the folks at Fox News have ethics.
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      • Author by mary59 (November 19, 2009 7:18 pm ET)
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        They bought them on sale for $19.95, one of the first 20 callers. With their ethics, they got a shamwow and a mandolin.
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (November 19, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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      "GREAT" work Media Matters. Oh, maybe Murdoch was talking about his employee at FoxNews - Glenn Beck, LOL.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (November 19, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
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      He might have Bill-O send one of his lackeys for a counter-ambush...
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    • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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      Perhaps he means this one...

      "I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

      And his "explanation"...

      "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know - there's a reaction in her that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society."
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      • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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        So basically, "typical white people" (whatever that means) fear black people on the streets.

        Nothing racially divisive about that, right?
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        • Author by jason10006 (November 19, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
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          But Murdoch said he never said Obama is a racist, so its all moot.

          And even so, its hardly a secret - as has been shown by hundreds of empiracal studies - that the typical white person does indeed react differently to black people than to white people, all else equal. A dozen 20/20 and Dateline hidden camera shows, all sorts of studies of people's reactions to people's faces and naegative words across a screen, people's reactions to otherwise identical resumes and transcripts with pictures of different raced people attached, etc.

          In fact there has never been a study on the topic that did NOT find that race plays a factor in people's snap judgments. Ever.
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          • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
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            Newsflash: The "typical" black person does indeed react differently to white people than to black people, all else equal.

            It works both ways.
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            • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 19, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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              Listen, you dork...

              We're talking about Rupert Murdoch here. We want to know what very racist comment the president made that led this elitist jackass owner of Fixed News to agree with Glenn Beck that the president is a racist.

              Like most conservatives, he runs and hides under the kitchen table when the heat is on.

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              • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
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                I'm not running.

                I posted two comments MADE BY OBAMA that can be considered racist, and if NOT racist, they are at LEAST racially divisive.
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                • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 19, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
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                  Okay,
                  You win the false equivalence of the decade award.
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                  • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
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                    Is this the scope of your ability to engage in a rational discussion?

                    Can you put your hatred of Murdoch aside for a second, and tell me whether or not Obama's statements are problematic?
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                    • Author by open_mind (November 19, 2009 7:55 pm ET)
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                      The remark regarding "typical white person" is only problematic if you take it completely out of the context in which it is delivered.

                      Typical has more than one sense. It can be derrogatory, in some cases, but it can also be a neutral word (like Obama seems to have used it) - as in today was a typical fall day. That does not mean it was a terrible day. Sweet Jesus!
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                      • Author by Brabantio (November 19, 2009 9:06 pm ET)
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                        I think it's also relevant that there's a difference in time here. Racism was more prevalent and acceptable in past decades than it is today, and that has some bearing on how the comment is perceived.
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                        • Author by bsherman (November 19, 2009 10:14 pm ET)
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                          Any discussion of racism could be construed as "racially divisive." Maybe we should just stick our heads in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist.
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        • Author by pete592 (November 19, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
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          The charge was racism, not being racially divisive.

          Perhaps it is the quote that Murdoch was referring to, but the point is we don't know because MURDOCH WON'T SAY.
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          • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 5:20 pm ET)
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            Racially divisive and racist go hand in hand.

            If you are really an honest person, you know DAMN WELL that if a conservative let the words "typical black person" come out of his mouth, he would be called racist. Honestly.
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            • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 19, 2009 5:26 pm ET)
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              That's not necessarily true at all, but you want it to be true so badly.

              But it certainly is a phrase that can be totally blown out of context if one is desperately looking for ammunition to call a person a "racist."
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              • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 5:29 pm ET)
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                Bro, I don't want it to be true, but that doesn't mean that it isn't. Sure, context would matter, and I get that.

                All I'm saying is that I can understand how some people could hear basically "my grandmother is a typical white person who gets scared when she sees blacks on the street," and have some reservations about the comment.
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                • Author by MickD (November 19, 2009 5:34 pm ET)
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                  One of the great speeches on race in the last generation and you cherry pick one statement.
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                  • Author by k1dork (November 19, 2009 5:36 pm ET)
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                    I thought it was a pretty good speech as well. That doesn't mean that if he says one ridiculous line in the speech that it should not be addressed.

                    "He gave a great speech, so never mind that one ridiculous line in it."

                    Really?
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            • Author by pete592 (November 19, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
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              "you know DAMN WELL that if a conservative let the words 'typical black person'"
              If it was a conservative white man saying the same kind of thing about his black grandmother (now there's a stretch), he wouldn't be called a racist by me.
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        • Author by open_mind (November 19, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
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          k1dork,

          You need to look at the context of what Obama was saying. He meant "typical" in the sense of "ordinary" or "regular". Conservatives are changing the context to make it seem cynical - which it was not.

          Obama was talking about his grandmother - who he loved. Only someone who was being deliberately dishonest would take his comments the way conservatives have.
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          • Author by k1dork (November 20, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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            Are you a "typical white person"? If so, then is it perfectly reasonable for me to assume that you fear blacks when you encounter them on the street?
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            • Author by open_mind (November 20, 2009 8:06 pm ET)
                 
              It might be a fair assumption of a typical white person in the 1960's and 1970's especially - which is the time period in which Obama was referring.

              Personally, I am a typical white person in many ways and I was once afraid of black folks as I was raised in a white monoculture. So I can confirm Obama's statement.
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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (November 19, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
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          So basically, "typical white people" (whatever that means) fear black people on the streets


          YOU must be the ONLY African American in America that needs an explanation for what Obama said!

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          • Author by k1dork (November 20, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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            I don't need an explanation. I think you need some understanding if you can't see that such a statement is racially divisive.
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            • Author by open_mind (November 20, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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              "racially divisive"? That wasn't what Beck called it. Beck said it was "racist". Nice back-pedalling. Are you a unicyclist?
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        • Author by New Frontier (November 20, 2009 12:01 am ET)
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          Obama was bemoaning and deploring the fact. Sheesh, you guys cannot grasp any concept that isn't purely black or white, can you. Like you're proud of your ignorance.
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      • Author by wookie (November 20, 2009 8:57 am ET)
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        Yeah, you're right. Typical white people were color blind during the time when blacks couldn't vote or attend public schools.
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 20, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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        We know what comments Murdoch meant. It was Obama's comments about the Harvard professor and the cop that riled Beck, and it's those comments that Murdoch was referencing.

        They weren't racist comments, first off.

        And secondly, Murdoch is trying to claim that Obama could have said a racist thing but still not be a racist.

        Because, don't you know, non-racist people say racist things all the time - NOT!
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    • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 19, 2009 10:23 pm ET)
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      Wasn't mmfa leading the cheerleaders and crying foul when Bill O was ambushing people?!

      All's fair eh mmfa?
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      • Author by New Frontier (November 19, 2009 11:59 pm ET)
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        MMFA didn't "ambush" Murdoch at his home, or at the grocery store, or while Murdoch was on vacation. That's what the lowlife O'Reilly has done and would do.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (November 20, 2009 9:38 am ET)
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        "All's fair eh mmfa? (sic)

        More than fair. There's something delicious about seeing a bully get a dose of his own.
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      • Author by open_mind (November 20, 2009 8:09 pm ET)
           
        Wasn't Murdoch in a Public building paid for by taxpayers? Why shouldn't anyone be able to walk up and ask a question in a building We the People own?
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    • Author by Lorraine (November 20, 2009 8:19 am ET)
         
      I do not know why Americans have to put up with Murdoch who was not even born in the USA, who renounce his Aust citizenship and is now speading h ate and li es in the USA and calling our President a ras cist. Mr. Murdoch please mind your own business and go back to where ever you orignated from. Stop spreading your hatr ed and li es.
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