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Zero tolerance? Fox News misidentifies Rep. John Shadegg (R) as "Arizona Senator"

November 25, 2009 2:22 pm ET by MMFA Staff

From the November 25 edition of Fox News' Live Desk:



Congressman John Shadegg (R) represents Arizona's 3rd congressional district.

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    • Author by John Paradox (November 25, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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      What? You mean you didn't know that Arizona has three senators?

      Kyl
      McCain
      [your name here]
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    • Author by pilotshark (November 25, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
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      Just wondering which senator is worried about losing his seat.
      kyl
      mccain
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    • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
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      Jesus Christ on a popsickle stick. You guys are actually calling for some chyron operator to be fired for something as petty as this?

      Seriously, dudes. Life's way too short.

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      • Author by Max Credits (November 25, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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        You've picked an odd way to lash out at Fox News for its new edict of firing those responsible for on-screen errors.
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        • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:17 pm ET)
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          I'm saying this is not only heartless, Victor, it's small, and frankly, a bit bizarre.
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          • Author by Max Credits (November 25, 2009 3:19 pm ET)
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            http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html
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            • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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              Yeah, what about it, Vicotr?

              Probably some twenty-something at MMFA getting paid to sit and watch Fox for any kind of chyron error, no matter what it is or how insignificant. He has his job. His job is to see to it that some guy who probably can't afford it, loses his.

              And it wasn't a case of a Republican in trouble being labeled a Democrat, which drives you guys crazy. It was a Republican Congressman being labeled a Republican Senator.

              Good grief.
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              • Author by Max Credits (November 25, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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                Wait a minute, are you blaming Fox News for it's new policy on mistakes? I was giving you their contact info becuase I thought you were angry with Fox News, I mean, here's THEIR memo:

                Effective immediately, there is zero tolerance for on-screen errors. Mistakes by any member of the show team that end up on air may result in immediate disciplinary action against those who played significant roles in the "mistake chain," and those who supervise them.


                Seriously, it's up to them. And, apparently, they'd love to hear from you.
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                • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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                  I have no doubts that not only have several employees of MMFA have already called/emailed Fox, but quite likely so have a few of the commenters here.

                  Have you, Victor? This your good deed for Thanksgiving?
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                  • Author by Max Credits (November 25, 2009 3:48 pm ET)
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                    OK, hoosier, on behalf of Fox News, I hereby apologize for its new policy on quality control.
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    • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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      MMFA's Thanksgiving good deed of the day.

      "Hey Fox, fire somebody there for calling Shadegg a Senator instead of a Congressman. You said you would. C'mon."
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      • Author by peace4all (November 25, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
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        well, with the amount of times it happens it would seem it would be a good idea to fire him. after all this is not even an almost isolated incident.
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        • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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          Just exactly what kind of a incident is this to you, peace4all?

          How would you describe this incident such that you want someone you know nothing about to get the ax one day before Thanksgiving as some sort of sacrificial lamb?
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          • Author by peace4all (November 25, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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            well, if fox wants to be considered legit they should fire the responsible person. do you deny that this is not a very common error at fox? if it is a common error then it shows great incompetence on the part of this person. if i keep making the same stupid mistake at work you can bet i would be fired for it or do you only want people from the left held to the standard of personal responsibility?
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 25, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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        Yeah, because it's our fault that they announced that it's FoxNews' policy to have little to no tolerance for any more of these kinds of mistakes.

        Like it's our fault that he did it the day before Thanksgiving.

        Stop playing the victim, or making someone else who is NOT a victim into a victim.

        Someone made a mistake. He's not a victim. He's someone who made a mistake.
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        • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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          A perfect example of the pettiness that goes on here, DellDolly.

          What's the offense? Who was harmed? What was the damage?

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          • Author by MrPlow99 (November 25, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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            The truth was harmed, hoosier, like it always is by Faux News.
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          • Author by Publius39 (November 25, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
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            Well Hoosier, I know this point will probably be lost on you because I have read posts from you in the past, and logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit. If you are going to call yourself something, especially a news organization, then error-free reporting is part of the professionalism of that trade. You make sure all your i's are dotted and all of your t's are crossed. This is what is expected from the media, to make sure everything that they do is based in the truth, edited, corrected and re-edited to ensure that things are broadcast to the people in the clearest way possible. I did have an analogy for you, but I think it would be lost, so I will leave it at that.
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            • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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              And like I said, Publius39, some of you guys need to seriously consider getting a life. This isn't about MMFA's stated goals of correcting conservative misinformation, it's only about "Aha, gotcha, Fox. When ya gonna fire someone now?"

              And that's just sad.
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            • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
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              And like I said, Publius39, some of you guys need to seriously consider getting a life. This isn't about MMFA's stated goals of correcting conservative misinformation, it's only about "Aha, gotcha, Fox. When ya gonna fire someone now?"

              And that's just sad.
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              • Author by New Frontier (November 25, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
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                seriously consider getting a life
                At last count, you have at least 10 posts here about this "petty" matter you're obsessed with. WTF? Zero tolerance is Fox News' policy. The question is: Will they abide by it or not. Since you have this weird, vested interest in Fox News, ask them about their "pettiness".
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              • Author by Max Credits (November 25, 2009 5:38 pm ET)
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                So, for the simple sake of clarity, I got to ask - yes or no; are you against Fox News' "zero tolerance for on-screen errors" policy?
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              • Author by Publius39 (November 25, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
                   
                It has nothing to do with having a life or not. This is not my life, but I do expect people and organizations to hold themselves to the standards set by society and also by themselves. Don't sit here and say that you will fire people for making errors and then turn a blind-eye when it happens. When that occurs, an organization's word becomes arbitrary and non-binding.
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                • Author by hoosier (November 25, 2009 6:40 pm ET)
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                  Victor Colorado keeps checking back here hoping for the breaking news that some 24 year old recent college grad Fox chyron operator with a mortgage and a wife and a kid on the way just got the pink slip for the grave mistake of call John Shadegg a Senator.


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          • Author by DellDolly (November 26, 2009 1:03 am ET)
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            Damn you're dense, or dishonest, or both.

            You were suggesting that FoxNews was a victim of us, when in fact it's their own policy. They aren't a victim, and so now you want to suggest that it's not a big deal? FoxNews is who gets to decide how big a deal it is, but in any case, they aren't a victim of MMFA! And that was my point, you dum-dum.

            I hope your stuffing makes you sick tomorrow, so that you can spew real stuff tomorrow instead of polluting this site with your vomit.
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            • Author by hoosier (November 26, 2009 8:14 am ET)
                 
              No need torsort to personal attacks, DellDolly, unless that's your way of admitting you have no argumnent.

              Last night I happened to be watching MSNBC and the topic was the usual day before Thanksgiving report on how many people were expected to be travelling over the holiday. MSNBC went to a video of traffic congestion, and it was apparent that the video of long traffic lines was taken last summer based on the trees, plants and other factors. Why did they try to give the impression of heavy traffic the day before Thanksgiving with footage from last summer. I was watching PBS later that evening and also Fox and they both did the same things.

              I was wondering if any of the eagle-eyed kids here in the comments or the ones at their monitors at MMFA would report on all three networks deceptions or if they would just bring up the Fox deception and demand that someone there be fired also.

              I'm not claiming victimhood, DellDolly. I'm saying you and MMFA are being extremely petty in this instance because it is a totally insignificant and blatantly obvious mistake of absolutely no consequences to anyone whatsoever. Yet you folks seem to think it's important. The last Fox incidence was the same way; you thought you were all super-sleuths on the Palin book-signing incident but no one here or at MMFA could square how showing video of two different Palin rallies from the summertime was supposed to be a deception practice by Fox for a book signing in freezing cold Michigan. Nor could anyone explain why the videos they showed only had at most 15 people in one, and less than 10 people in the other, yet you claim they were trying to show bigger crowds than there actually were....when the actual crowd had 1,500- 2,000 people at it! You couldn't explain why Palin had on two different outfits from the two different Palin rally videos if they were trying to make the viewer believe the video snippets were from the booksigning, either. No, DellDolly, nobody thought at all logically about what they were claiming as Fx=ox being caught 'red-handed' trying to deceive.

              Just like the Sparkman case, liberals tend to be paranoid conspiracy theoritsts who come to dire conclusions first when their theories fit things they desperately wish to be true. They jump to conclusions without thinking them through logically, and they expect people to take them seriously. When commonsense questions are asked on here about their conspiracy theories, all that is offered up is gobbledygook answers. Like I said, no one had an answer for how Fox could've been trying to be deceptive by showing 15 people in the background at the Palin rallies.

              I won't get personal like you did, DellDolly, but no one is so blind as those who refuse to see.
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              • Author by Brabantio (November 26, 2009 12:35 pm ET)
                   
                If these sort of mistakes are so inconsequential, why would they bother instituting a no-tolerance policy on it?
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              • Author by MickD (November 26, 2009 10:59 pm ET)
                   
                Hoser..er Hoos, the Beckenstein Monster goes on TeeVee daily and practically drools on a chalkboard and you accuse liberals of being "paranoid conspiracy theoritsts" (sic) I defy you to find someone on the left as lunatic, and the catch is that person has to have a Beckian platform.
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    • Author by almaevans6781 (November 25, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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      What do you expect from a bunch of right wing hacks? Sense?
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (November 25, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
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      I actually think Arizona got a third Senator to go along with one of those non-existent Congressional Districts that "just happened" to post job gains because of the stimulus package. Oh, I know, that was just some "accounting errors".
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 26, 2009 1:07 am ET)
           
        Hey, dum-dum jerk, those "accounting errors" were made by the employers, not by the Federal Government. And whenever the Federal Govt has been able to identify those errors, they have fixed them. So how is this something that you should use to pick on the Obama Administration for?

        On top of that, this has nothing to do with this posting. The posting is about Shadegg being incorrectly identified as a Senator, remember?
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