That "-gate" suffix is useful in a way. Anytime I hear somebody use it, I can be pretty sure they're trying to make a scandal out of something they want very badly to be a scandal.
You rarely hear anything-gate said by anybody but the excitable and misinformed, or those with an interest in misinforming. "-gate" is like a little light that goes on to tell us "ignore this person".
(And to our celebrated dimbulbs on board, that's a double-entendre with "a fence," which is similar to "a gate"; I hate having to explain, but it saves a lot of time later.)
Correct. If you want to know what the wingnuts are doing, just look at what they accuse the "liberals" of doing. The wingnuts will be up to their necks in the activity, while the liberals may have only the soles of their shoes soiled.
Well, come on, flounder--don't you know that ACORN paid for all that manufactured climate-change scince? Don't believe me? Just wait for Glenn to put it all up on his chalkboard...
Not "possibly getting the facts wrong." Actually changing the facts to suit a political agenda. That is NOT science and that would blow this whole "consensus" right out of the water. And as for the seriousness of this how about legistlation that would make energy costs soar in the United States. Very poor people spend up to 50% of thier income on energy costs and would be hurt most. And what do you think this would do to our economy? And taking our power to decide for ourselves and handing it over to the UN all in the name of having to do something radical quickly to save the planet when the planet may not even need saving. And when they aren't certain enough to know what to do or even how to tell if it will work.
There needs to be an investigation. If Hansen is blameless he has nothing to fear.
Was Hansen implicated in the hacked emails, I don't remember him being a part of CRU? I supposed there could have been correspondance between him and someone at CRU.(?)
Although I understand it, what bothers me most about the whole Climategate scenario is that the GWDs have already decided that this "proves" that global warming is a hoax. They don't even consider the fact that someone hacked the emails, which would bring their whole legitamacy in question.
(if you hack em, you could edit them too)
A similar call is being made over here (Oz) - probably the worst thing about the internet is that th excesses of wingnuts like Beck et al now go global. I must admit though I had to laugh ( i think ) when he all but endorsed a move to a theocracy - not quite but almost --
Two of the main protagonists over in Australia are employees of Murdoch - an Andrew Bolt and Tim BLair - they are whiping up a virtual lynch mob baying for the incerncration of AGW advocates -
God forbid I get accused of starting my own "apology tour", but sorry to hear that you get to hear Beck and company. There is no way the U.S. can ever make up for that offense.
But to one of your Points, these wingnuts always "almost" endorse theocracy, rebellion, violence and assassination, but know when to stop before overtly endorsing such actions. It is almost as if they hope their listeners take the next step and Beck etal can claim it wasn't their fault.
Hey wesley, I have a simple question for you: Do cigarettes cause cancer?
And, if big tobacco told consumers that cigarettes were perfectly safe, and even healthy, because they paid doctors and scientists to concoct evidence to that effect, what if anything would they be guilty of?
Because that's exactly the same situation you have here. Burning petroleum, especially leaded petroleum, introduces a wide array of toxic chemicals into the environment, many of which are carcinogens. And CEOs of fossil energy companies have been creating evidence that their products are 'safe', and paying off politicians on both sides of the aisle to protect their profit. Who owns NiMH battery technology which could be used to build viable all electric cars that would meet the needs of 90% of Americans? Exxon. And will they build those batteries? Of course not. There's still oil in the ground, and until the last barrel has been pumped out and paid for, they will not build those batteries.
Yer right, it's not about the number of words...it's really about the difference in one man's twitter post and another man...like Hansen...making the same type of argument to law makers in congress.
Was he proposing state-sanctioned execution, as Breitbart suggested in his tweet? Not even remotely. You live in a very frightening world of relativistic reality that bears little semblance to real reality. Check your meds, buddy.
Of course you don't really read the articles you link to. Hansen did not say those words to Congress. The quote was from his 2008 op-ed piece for Worldwatch Institute. Below is the quote in context. Please note that he did NOT advocate capital punishment for CEO's, like Brietbart did.
Special interests have blocked the transition to our renewable energy future. Instead of moving heavily into renewable energies, fossil fuel companies choose to spread doubt about global warming, just as tobacco companies discredited the link between smoking and cancer. Methods are sophisticated, including funding to help shape school textbook discussions of global warming.
CEOs of fossil energy companies know what they are doing and are aware of the long-term consequences of continued business as usual. In my opinion, these CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature.
Here's another difference: There is, so far as I know, no legal charge of "high crimes against humanity and nature," so Hansen's statement can be chalked up to rhetoric. There is, on the other hand, a very real legal charge of "treason," so Breitbart's statement can't be dismissed the same way.
But did he say capital punishment for them? Maybe I'm just spinning but Hansen only said they should be tried. Breitbart's assertion that he deserves capital punishment and is guilty of high treason skips that step and goes straight to the lynching.
Yes, Weaselly has once again shown that he doesn't have an ounce of integrity in his whole body with this posting.
But he does have skills in successfully trying to derail conversations! He's desperately trying to avoid talking about the sinister and inappropriate posting by Breitbart.
Hansen had good reason to say what he said last year. It doesn't in any way justify or explain what Breitbart does here.
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You rarely hear anything-gate said by anybody but the excitable and misinformed, or those with an interest in misinforming. "-gate" is like a little light that goes on to tell us "ignore this person".
(And to our celebrated dimbulbs on board, that's a double-entendre with "a fence," which is similar to "a gate"; I hate having to explain, but it saves a lot of time later.)
A very clever and most excellent pun, to be sure, young man! (snicker) But a pun nonetheless.
We hope that the "dim bulbs" forgive you, if not for arrogance, then at least for ignorance.
Threatening the US gov't with his "videos" for example.
Blowing the cover of a CIA agent for political purposes: Not Treason.
Lying about a nation being an imminent threat to the US by claiming it has non-existent weapons of mass destruction: Not Treason.
Conducting an illegal war based on that lie: Not Treason
Possibly getting facts wrong (I doubt it, personally) concerning Global Warming: Treason, and worthy of the death penalty.
There needs to be an investigation. If Hansen is blameless he has nothing to fear.
Although I understand it, what bothers me most about the whole Climategate scenario is that the GWDs have already decided that this "proves" that global warming is a hoax. They don't even consider the fact that someone hacked the emails, which would bring their whole legitamacy in question.
(if you hack em, you could edit them too)
Two of the main protagonists over in Australia are employees of Murdoch - an Andrew Bolt and Tim BLair - they are whiping up a virtual lynch mob baying for the incerncration of AGW advocates -
But to one of your Points, these wingnuts always "almost" endorse theocracy, rebellion, violence and assassination, but know when to stop before overtly endorsing such actions. It is almost as if they hope their listeners take the next step and Beck etal can claim it wasn't their fault.
-- CEOs of fossil energy companies...should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature" --
And now you know "the rest of the story"...which mmfa failed to acknowledge.
And, if big tobacco told consumers that cigarettes were perfectly safe, and even healthy, because they paid doctors and scientists to concoct evidence to that effect, what if anything would they be guilty of?
Because that's exactly the same situation you have here. Burning petroleum, especially leaded petroleum, introduces a wide array of toxic chemicals into the environment, many of which are carcinogens. And CEOs of fossil energy companies have been creating evidence that their products are 'safe', and paying off politicians on both sides of the aisle to protect their profit. Who owns NiMH battery technology which could be used to build viable all electric cars that would meet the needs of 90% of Americans? Exxon. And will they build those batteries? Of course not. There's still oil in the ground, and until the last barrel has been pumped out and paid for, they will not build those batteries.
Breibart wants to go after Hansen for the dubious scandals coming out of hacked and stolen e-mails that prove nothing.
There is a big difference here, Wesley. To be honest, I am glad that you pointed it out, so that this could be discussed.
But he does have skills in successfully trying to derail conversations! He's desperately trying to avoid talking about the sinister and inappropriate posting by Breitbart.
Hansen had good reason to say what he said last year. It doesn't in any way justify or explain what Breitbart does here.