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Surprise! Breitbart and Big Government don't know how the law works

November 30, 2009 12:56 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

This is getting to be an embarrassing habit. Right-wing activist Andrew Breitbart has already shown us he doesn't know what a "hate crime" is," and that he doesn't understand what "blackmail" means. And now, apparently he can't read Supreme Court rulings.

Breitbart's been wildly (over) hyping a batch of ACORN documents that a San Diego private investigator (and failed GOP candidate) by the name of Derrick Roach stuffed into his car one night back in October. Roach got the docs after a dumpster dive behind ACORN's office. Breitbart has been claiming the latest ACORN installment is Watergate-meets-the-Lindbergh-kidnapping in terms of blockbuster news, even though, to date, his site hasn't produced the goods yet on San Diego, which is why the story's gone nowhere.

But in a recent post, note how Big Government pushed back against claims that the ACORN docs may have been obtained illegally; a claim that California AG's Jerry Brown seemed to endorse. Here's how Breitbart's site defended the charge [emphasis added]:

At age 71, California’s top cop and erstwhile Gov. Moonbeam might benefit from a refresher course in current law.  Attorney General Brown cited a case from the 1960’s where items placed in the garbage were considered private; however, in 1988 the United States Supreme Court ruled in a case, California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988), that there was no expectation of privacy when items are thrown in the garbage since it is common knowledge that plastic garbage bags are readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public.  As for the local National City ordinance prohibiting scavenging through garbage that the ACORN office and its supporters cite, that law was enacted in 1984 and was nullified by the United States Supreme Court ruling just four years later.

Breitbart's Big Government pointed to a 1988 Supreme Court ruling to suggest that everything Roach did in obtaining the ACORN docs was okay.

Not quite.

From CALIFORNIA v. GREENWOOD, 486 U.S. 35 (1988):  

Here, we conclude that respondents exposed their garbage to the public sufficiently to defeat their claim to Fourth Amendment protection. It is common knowledge that plastic garbage bags left on or at the side of a public street are readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public. See Krivda, supra, at 367, 486 P.2d, at 1269. Moreover, respondents placed their refuse at the curb for the express purpose of conveying it to a third party, the trash collector, who might himself have sorted through respondents' trash or permitted others, such as the police, to do so. Accordingly, having deposited their garbage "in an area particularly suited for  public inspection and, in a manner of speaking, public consumption, for the express purpose of having strangers take it," United States v. Reicherter, 647 F.2d 397, 399 (CA3 1981), respondents could have had no reasonable expectation of privacy in the inculpatory items that they discarded.

Furthermore, as we have held, the police cannot reasonably be expected to avert their eyes from evidence of criminal activity that could have been observed by any member of the public. Hence, "[w]hat a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection."

The 1988 ruling clearly dealt with garbage disposed "on or at the side of a public street." And today, Breitbart's Big Government claims that that decision means their actions were legit. But where did Big Government obtain the ACORN documents? Did they come across them in garbage bags that "could have been observed by any member of the public" and "left on or at the side of a public street"? Were the documents "knowingly expose[d] to the public"?

Of course not. According to Big Government's own telling of the tale, the docs were taken, under the cover of night, from a dumpster located behind ACORN's San Diego office. In fact, here's the photo Big Government posted showing the dumpster in question. And yes, the dumpster was caged:

In 1988, the Supreme Court ruled there was no claim to privacy regarding garbage bags placed on the side of a public curb from pick-up. Today, Breitbart says that law pertains to them, even though Big Government's docs  were taken from a caged dumpster; a dumpster that Breitbart even concedes was located not on the side of a public curb, but "behind ACORN in San Diego."

And get this: Roach himself even admits that he drove by a no trespassing sign to get to the ACORN dumpster!

UPDATED: Big Government itself has referred to the San Diego document retrieval as a "dumpster dive." Obviously, the 1988 Supreme Court ruling did not concern itself with late-night dumpster dives into caged containers located beyond a no trespassing sign.

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    • Author by Good Creon (November 30, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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      Apparently it's not illegal if it's in the name of preserving American values, such as keeping minorities away from the voting booths.
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    • Author by historygeek001 (November 30, 2009 1:30 pm ET)
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      Oh, c'mon. I don't know if it's fair to say that Breitbart doesn't understand the difference between the Supreme Court decision and what actually happened -- I think it's far more likely that he knows, understands, and doesn't care. What possible event in Breitbart's past leads anybody to expect him to be HONEST?
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      • Author by mk3872 (November 30, 2009 2:04 pm ET)
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        Actually, doesn't all of the Breitbart & Drudge conservamedia empire fall under the category of "made-up news" ??
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    • Author by DellDolly (November 30, 2009 2:29 pm ET)
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      This one-time Republican candidate for statewide office, running in a Democratic district solely to provide an opposing candidate, just happened to see trash bags going into a private dumpster?

      And then he just happened to grab multiple trash bags, and inside those trash bags happened to discover that some low-level employee had mistakenly trashed personal information that should have been shredded or disposed through a specific vendor who protects that data?

      And then when he finds that data, he doesn't go to the cops, which he should have done, to report that data breach?

      And then he doesn't give the data back to ACORN, so they can inform the people whose data was breached that their personal information was not disposed of properly?

      And somehow this all reflects badly on ACORN?

      It reflects badly on this guy, and on Breitbart and Big Government that they wouldn't understand their legal responsibilities.

      This guy had no right to go snooping in a dumpster. He had no reason to believe that there was going to be personal data in those bags, and therefore has no 'justification' for going through them to 'protect' those who data was incorrectly disposed of.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (November 30, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
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      Well, since the documents are supposed to contain smoking gun information, and they haven't been released, it would seem that it might just be garbage after all. Breitbart doesn't seem to let silly things like laws stop him from releasing what he considers juicy information before it has been thoroughly examined. Don't you think that the dumpster diving Mr. Roach is aptly named?
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 30, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
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        A few of the documents have been released, with redacted personal information. All I've seen has been employee info, not client info, but it all has not been shown.

        An ACORN employee did improperly dispose of personal information. There's a pdf of someone's SSN card and their Calif driver's license with personal info blacked out I've seen.

        I suspect that there were bags of trash - I think the PI said that he got 10-12 bags total, and in going through it over 6 weeks, he found a few inappropriate documents that had been thrown out in the trash rather than being shredded. They found a few needles in the haystack.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (November 30, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
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          I work with a lot of confidential information. Mistakes are made occassionally, by the best employees in the best of offices. It happens, no one likes it, but it does. If it was really good stuff, it would be out and about. Again, this is just more Conservative smear on an organization that was doing a fairly effective job of protecting poor people from bad bosses and cheating loan companies.
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    • Author by PurpleState (November 30, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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      Andrew who?
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    • Author by progressiveright (November 30, 2009 3:25 pm ET)
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      I guess by this interpetation of the law a police officer does not need a warent to look in the trash inside my house or in a locked cage in my backyard that has a fence, or in my garage. The fact is that all of these need a warrent.
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    • Author by markbfoot199 (November 30, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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      Is the information found correct or not, is ACORN breaking the law. Ok, so this individual broke the law, give him the punishment for the law he has broken. Keep focused on the real story here, is ACORN breaking the law. See, Media Matters wants you to focus on the dumpster diver, not ACORN.
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      • Author by PurpleState (November 30, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
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        Well, if they broke the law to get the evidence, wouldn't that make the evidence inadmissible?
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        • Author by RKAllen (December 01, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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          It absolutely would be and is inadmissable. The chain of evidence was broken the moment he picked up the bags of trash.
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      • Author by pilotx (November 30, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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        What law is ACORN breaking?
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      • Author by bintx (November 30, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
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        What law did ACORN [not an employee of ACORN] break? While they may be responsible under the doctrine of respondeat superior, it would have to be proven that they had tacit knowledge, they gave permission and they approved of the employee's wrongdoing. Gonna be tough to prove.

        It won't be nearly as difficult to prove that the idiot who took the documents from a fenced and locked dumpster while ignoring a No Trespassing sign [which he admits] broke the law.

        Looks like you're as uneducated as your heroes.
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        • Author by DellDolly (November 30, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
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          I don't think that's required. I think the organization could get in trouble due to the errors of the employee.

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