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Sarah Palin: Going Birther

December 04, 2009 10:44 am ET by Simon Maloy

One of the few legitimate grievances Sarah Palin had regarding the way she was treated during the 2008 presidential campaign centered on the ludicrous questions about her son Trig's birth. There was never any real reason to question whether she was, indeed, Trig's mother, and the few online media types who flogged the bogus story line certainly didn't do themselves any credit.

That said, you'd think Palin would be particularly sensitive and careful regarding questions of birth and parentage. Alas, no ...

As Salon's Alex Koppelman detailed, the former Alaska governor appeared on a conservative radio program on Thursday and was asked if she would "make [Obama's] birth certificate an issue" should she run for president. Palin said that "the public, rightfully, is still making it an issue," and that "it's a fair question" to wonder whether the president was born in the United States. She went on to denounce, once again, the "weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about, that Trig isn't my real son," but then counseled that "maybe we should reverse that and use the same type of thinking on [Obama]."

There are lots of things to unpack here, so let's get to it.

Lying: President Obama's birthplace and nationality have been established beyond any credible doubt -- he was born in Hawaii, in 1961, and is and always has been an American citizen. It is not a "fair question" to suggest otherwise.

Hypocrisy: What little credibility her attacks on the media had were based largely on the poor treatment she received from isolated quarters of the blogosphere regarding the birth of her son. For her to continue to complain about that while simultaneously questioning the president's birth, and suggesting that she would be justified in doing so, is hypocritical and disgusting beyond anything I thought Palin capable of. And let's not forget that when Palin's family first became an issue in the press shortly after McCain tapped her, Obama came to her defense: "I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."

Political stupidity: If Palin does, indeed, have political ambitions, then she's doing everything she possibly can to scuttle them by embracing Birtherism. There's a reason that national-level elected Republicans don't (for the most part) wade into the Birther swamp -- because the issue is so radioactively crazy that it would be political suicide to do so. If news reports are to be believed, Lou Dobbs was dropped by CNN because he indulged his Birther curiosities. It was hardly the first crazy thing Dobbs did while at CNN, but it was that special kind of crazy that made CNN say "enough." In short, anyone who has the Birther stain is not going to be a success in the political mainstream.

But let's not lose sight of the fact that the only reason we're talking about this at all is because John McCain selected Sarah Palin to be the next vice president of the United States. Perhaps David Gregory can ask the Arizona senator his thoughts on Palin's Birther tendencies on this Sunday's Meet the Press.

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    • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 10:55 am ET)
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      Nice try, but it is not hypocrisy at all. Obama's problem is OBAMA's problem not his child's problem. Totally different.

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      • Author by Major Tom (December 04, 2009 11:01 am ET)
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        Nice try but a conspiracy theory is just that, no matter what it is referring to... It's all lies, hyperbole, and ignorance...
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        • Author by president96southern (December 04, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
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          then why dosn't obama produce his real birth certificate and put this to rest? answer : he was born in Kenya.
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          • Author by snoopy (December 04, 2009 7:24 pm ET)
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            answer: he did. Y'all are just to racist to acknowledge it.
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          • Author by Onyxcat (December 04, 2009 8:39 pm ET)
               
            Why not get your original birth certificate. All you will get is a copy. The original of all birth certificates are kept at your birth place hospital.
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          • Author by Brabantio (December 05, 2009 12:44 am ET)
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            The last I checked, each of the fifty states gets full faith and credit in their assertions as to who was born in them. In simpler terms, if Hawaii provides their documentation that Obama was born there, then the country as a whole accepts that as fact.

            Except for rabid right-wing idiots, apparently, who are not beholden to any concept of objective reality whatsoever.
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            • Author by snoopy (December 06, 2009 11:57 am ET)
                 
              Anyone who wants to send Sarah a message she deserves please sign the petition!
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              • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 5:44 pm ET)
                   
                Actually he did not. A registration of live birth is not a birth certificate. It is quite easy really if you have one. It certainly would shut a lot of people up. lol
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            • Author by zamfir273114 (December 06, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
                 
              Wrong Merlin. Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution explains that other "states" will respect the assertions, judgements, etc of other states. It says nothing about the Federal Government. Nice try though.
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              • Author by Brabantio (December 06, 2009 5:41 pm ET)
                   
                You're right, I'm using the wrong term. However, are you telling me that the federal government does not accept official state documents as a matter of default? That is, without some evidence of fraud or egregious error on the part of state officials?
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          • Author by JLP (December 05, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
               
            I think he was actually born in a madrassa in Saudi Arabia, at least that is what Glen Beck told me.
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          • Author by 3252279519 (December 06, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
               
            da
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      • Author by jediknight65 (December 04, 2009 11:23 am ET)
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        hey dick. well ya know what.....if the presiden't is being questioned about his birth? well then we have every right to question trig palin.

        you can't have it both ways bucko.
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        • Author by TX (December 04, 2009 11:39 am ET)
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          difference is that she is not the president of the united states, she isn't even an official governement official now...so the question is legit to ask him
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          • Author by bintx (December 04, 2009 11:58 am ET)
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            Why ask a question which has already been answered OFFICIALLY by the State of Hawaii . . . the state where he was BORN? It's not a legitimate question if it's been asked and answered.
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            • Author by hugacat7374 (December 04, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
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              Why ask the question at all? For how many past president's has this been an issue? None. Which would lead a logical person to begin to believe that the birthers are only questioning because the current president is black. It's the one big difference between Pres. Obama and all past president's and it's making all birthers sound like bigots.
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              • Author by Brabantio (December 05, 2009 12:55 am ET)
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                Logically, people who are rumored to be born outside of the USA have a pretty good chance of belonging to a minority race anyway. If your father was a citizen of another country, the odds are pretty fair that you're not white. You have Canada, Russia, most of Europe, Australia. All of South America, Asia, Africa, the Middle East, Central America all the way up to Mexico pretty much insures another race being involved.

                And also logically, when you consider the behavior of right-wingers towards the left in general, it's patently absurd to believe that they would refrain from such an opportunity based on skin color. They're going to make idiotic criticisms of Al Gore "inventing" the internet, but if some relative said he was born in Canada, those same people wouldn't jump all over that without hesitation?

                The accusations have no basis, but there was an opportunity presented for them to be made, while that same opportunity was never there for others.
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                • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
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                  I have to disagree with you on this one, Brabantio. I agree that no matter what they would find a reason to hate the president. They hated Gore and Clinton for nonsense. But, the fact that they have chosen "he is not like us, he is different" with this birth certificate nonsense, is CLEARLY racist to me. It would NEVER have come up with a white president. That seems fairly obvious to me. I absolutely do not think the "Gore was born in Canada" nonsense would still be going today. (This born in Kenya stuff is just as nonsensical and still has nuts like Dick and alerted defending it.) This is true race-baiting at its worst.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (December 05, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
                       
                    I absolutely do not think the "Gore was born in Canada" nonsense would still be going today.
                    You're saying that the degree would be different, then. It would have ceased by this point, maybe. And maybe not, considering the rather silly nature of the attacks against Gore that are still repeated today. But this is what I responded to:
                    Why ask the question at all? For how many past president's has this been an issue?
                    It's just not plausible that the same people that bring up the "invented the internet" nonsense would not ever make that an issue for Gore. I dare anyone to try to really try to imagine that, because their character makes it virtually inconceivable.

                    I agree that it's worse for Obama because of racists and the racial aspect of this case. But if you try to put yourself in the shoes of someone who deeply hates Obama for purely partisan reasons, would you really not harp on this nonsense because it involved Kenya? I can't see that person restraining themselves for that reason (I will add that the post-COLB effort to claim that Obama wasn't eligible to be President even if he was born in Hawaii made all the people who brought up Kenya look like racists, because it's hard to explain why they kept bringing it up if it wasn't relevant).

                    The alternate possibility is there, so it's impossible to reach the conclusion that one possibility must be true for everyone.
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                  • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
                       
                    Will you all get off the race kick. He was elected by a whole bunch of "white folk". Just produce the Birth Certificate and all will be well. duh. This needs to be done for all presidential elections and I am surprised that it was not.
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            • Author by president96southern (December 04, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
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              It has not been answered. Hawaii showed a certificate of live birth not a birth certificate. a certificate of live birth is issued to anyone who needs proof of birth from outside of the state or country where they were born. In fact Obama has not released any records. How about his college records or the fact that he went to school in Indonesia where you have to be a citizen of Indonsia to go to school there.
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              • Author by johntwodogs (December 04, 2009 7:11 pm ET)
                   
                So, by using your argument I could get a certificate of live birth from Hawaii even though I was born in Missouri? I don't think so. Also, do you have any proof of your legitimacy to even be commenting on this subject? Where are your credentials. From where do you get your knowledge on these matters; Glen Beck?
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              • Author by snoopy (December 04, 2009 7:26 pm ET)
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                Yes, it has been answered. It's just racists refuse to acknowledge it.
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              • Author by Lord of Light (December 04, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
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                There was also an article in a Hawaii newspaper announcing the birth.

                president96southern: Your ignorant, racist xenophobia makes me wanna puke.
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              • Author by open_mind (December 06, 2009 8:15 pm ET)
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                Hawaii did not show anything. They have stated that they have seen Obama's birth records and that he is a "natural born citizen". The State of Hawaii says that a "certification" (which is what you likely meant to say) of live birth is indeed itself a "birth certificate".

                Most Presidents and Presidential candidates do not release their school records for that matter, so that really doesn't mean anything - just more right-wing whining.
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            • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 5:50 pm ET)
                 
              Because it's not the same as producing a valid birth certificate. Duh.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (December 04, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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            yeah but this was being whispered during the campaing.

            when the question of mccain's eligibility came up. Obama and Clinton slammed the door on it fast with a congressional resolution.

            nice to see the favor being returned
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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          Hey Luke Sywalker:

          Never said EITHER was legitimate. Just saying it is NOT hypocrisy
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          • Author by kromecom48 (December 04, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
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            "The media beat me up "UNFAIRLY" about Trig's birth certificate. So I think Obama should have to show his too."

            First of all what media outside of CONSERVATIVE/REPUBLICAN columnist Andrew Sullivan ever called Trig's birth into question? The blogosphere is not the MSM, so let's dismiss that at the outset.

            She thought questions about Trig's birth were beyond the pale, but questioning Obama's birth by wingnuts isn't? That's called hypocrisy.

            And you choose to forget that Obama's birth has been officially confirmed by the State of Hawaii. That's Offiical!!!!

            To gain a passport, you only need what Obama has already provided as proof. He also could not have gained a top level security clearance. But then again, most wignuts never leave their state --let alone the country so passports and birth certificates are like Greek to them. They're also racist, since no POTUS has ever had to produce a birth certificate in the past.

            P.S.

            Privileged G.W. never travelled abroad even though he had the resources to do so as a young. That's not a sign of patriotism, it's a sign of willful ignorance about the world in which we live.
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            • Author by wzwriter (December 04, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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              Seeing as Caribou Barbie has raised the question of Trig's maternity, there are a few aspects of the story that have been bothering me for some time now.

              Trig was born in April of 2008, yet pictures taken of Palin in February and March of that year show no maternity bump. This seems very unusual in a woman as thin as Sarah Palin.

              When Trig's due date was near, Sarah Palin made a trip to Texas to deliver a speech. She said that her water broke just before she was supposed to go on stage, so she went ahead with the speech, got back to the airport, flew from Texas to Alaska, drove for two or three hours to get to Wasilla, and finally gave birth at her local hospital. Doesn't that seem to be a long time to go AFTER HER WATER BROKE before delivery, including a long airplane flight? Why didn't she give birth in Texas?

              Unless it was actually Bristol's baby. Which is why that rumor was going around Alaska for so long...
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              • Author by debwilldo (December 04, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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                I believe(for the same reasons) that Bristol is the mother of Trig.
                You notice that during the campaign, she managed to hide her medical records, right up until election night.

                Meanwhile Oabama and McPain made theirs available(tho'grandpa took great pains to be secretive).
                Could it be because she knew that it would show that she had not recently given birth?One has to wonder...and she's such a LIAR!
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              • Author by president96southern (December 04, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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                what does Trigs birth have to do with anything. It does not matter who's baby it is. Trig is not running for anything. Who's baby do you think it is. It can't be Sarahs daughters baby. The time line does not work.
                What we are talking about is an muslim alien born in kenya that is now the president of the United States
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                • Author by wzwriter (December 04, 2009 5:42 pm ET)
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                  What we are talking about is an muslim alien born in kenya that is now the president of the United States
                  No, stupid. We're talking about a half-black, Christian, natural-born US citizen born in Honolulu, HI in 1961 who is now our President.

                  Get with the program, you birther moron.
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                • Author by snoopy (December 04, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
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                  Palin could just put the question to bed if she just provided DNA samples of her, trig and bristol. Her refusal to do so only proves that she's covering up for her moraless daughter. We also need to see proof that she's not a racist, because we have seen a few articles on her referring to eskimos as "sand n!@@#rs". Please provide copies of every single thing she's ever uttered to prove us wrong.

                  Thank you.
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                  • Author by angels4light (December 04, 2009 10:49 pm ET)
                       
                    I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that Trig has Down's Syndrome. It is also my understanding that Down's Syndrome is almost exclusively associated with an older mother. Now, if I am correct about Trig, and Down's Syndrome, doesn't that suggest that it is highly unlikely that Bristol is the mother - even if Sarah is not the mother?
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                  • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (December 06, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
                       
                    Yeah, snoopy, there are reports about that "sand n!@@#rs" slander out there, and I think it's incumbent on her to clear up this important matter.

                    Next: "Questions Being Asked about Palin 'Sand N!@@#rs' Comment" by Keth, Rachel, Thom Hartmann, and Ed Schultz. They'd "just be asking questions," Fox News-style, after all!

                    Oh, how I wish this reverse-Fox-News fantasy scenario would play out in real life...
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                • Author by Onyxcat (December 04, 2009 8:49 pm ET)
                     
                  There is so much wrong about this that I'll leave it to the experts. But you can't say the President is a Muslim, since he is a christian. And, even if President Obama were a Muslim, what of it? Also, remember there is no religous test for being the president.
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                • Author by Onyxcat (December 04, 2009 8:50 pm ET)
                     
                  There is so much wrong about this that I'll leave it to the experts. But you can't say the President is a Muslim, since he is a christian. And, even if President Obama were a Muslim, what of it? Also, remember there is no religous test for being the president.
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            • Author by debwilldo (December 04, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
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              WELL SAID!!!
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
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          OK...Obama should the birth certificate. Simple, right?
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          • Author by jediknight65 (December 04, 2009 1:36 pm ET)
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            i will agree as soon as every other person who is alive that has run for president does as well.
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (December 04, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
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            OK...Obama should the birth certificate.

            Presumably, you meant "show," or "produce," after "should."

            And the answer, whether you like it or not, is that it has been produced and verified by those with the power to do so. In other words, you have no legitimate ground for doubting it. Anyone who is still pushing the birther idea is, frankly, an idiot.

            Simple, right?

            "Simple" is a fairly apt adjective for you, yes.
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            • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 5:58 pm ET)
                 
              If the Birth certificate was produced as you say then it would be out there for all to see. Sooooo, where is it? The certificate of live birth is on record but not an actual Birth Cirtificate. This will only get bigger so get used to it.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 04, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
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            Obama should ... WHAT? ... the Birth cirtificate, exactly?

            [mock those who are worried about] ?

            [associate political rivals with those who are worried about]?

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            Either of those work for me! You got any?
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        • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
             
          Get a life...since when are children fair game? You are stretching it here and showing your ignorance.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (December 04, 2009 11:26 am ET)
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        You really ARE Dick Chenney, aren't you? The same sort of nonsensical comments based on a skewed version of reality that only you can see.

        And, in a way, you are correct. It is Obama's problem that crazy people continue to push this wacko theory, about where he was born, based soley on the fact that their guy didn't win the election. Because you know, if he hadn't won the election, it wouldn't be an issue.
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        • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
             
          Exactly so. It just so happens to be a requsite for being president is all. So, where's the beef. Quite simple for most folk.
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      • Author by HardJustice (December 04, 2009 11:41 am ET)
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        But Obama doesn't HAVE a problem, Cheney. It's people who have a problem with Obama - and they'll try anything to de-legitimize him.

        FACT: Obama was born in the United States.
        FACT: John McCain was born in the country of Panama.

        Birthers question Obama's legitimacy but not McCain's? Anybody who says Obama's skin color has nothing to do with it is an idiot. The birther movement is born of racism plain and simple.
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        • Author by angels4light (December 04, 2009 10:59 pm ET)
             
          Senator McCain was born specifically in the canal zone, which at the time was a protectorate of the United States, and thus was treated as U.S. Soil. Similarly, children born on U.S. military bases in other countries are also considered natural born, because military bases and embassies are considered to be U.S. soil.

          As for President Obama, he can only authorize the government of Hawaii to allow an entity with a legitimate reason to view his original long form birth certificate, and the general public does not have a legitimate reason to see it. I suspect he, like most Americans, does not have a copy of his long form. Even if he does, though, there is no reason for anyone to see it except on official government business - except those who cannot accept the outcome of the last presidential election, and those who have to see a conspiracy around every dust mote.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:14 pm ET)
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          I find it impossible to disagree with you, Justice. It seems pretty clear this is only an issue to those who have an issue with a black man being in a postion of power.
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        • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:02 pm ET)
             
          Oh get a life will you. We wouldn't have this mess if McCain won the election.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 04, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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        It's called HAVING PRINCIPLES.

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        Not surprised to find you lacking, Dick.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (December 04, 2009 12:01 pm ET)
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        Obama was born in the US, and this has been established beyond any possible doubt. It is NOT his problem; the problem is with those who pretend otherwise. Once again, you're being dishonest.
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        • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
             
          Ok, geek. Tell us all where do we find this info on the legitimate Birth Certificate. That would be the honest thing to do. Otherwise lay off.
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      • Author by New Frontier (December 04, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
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        Obama's problem
        It's clearly your and the Birthers' problem--and not in any way Obama's.
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (December 04, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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        If Sarah can't find the Birth Certificate I don't know who can? She's relentless!

        Sarah, start by asking Lou Dobbs, he's the go-to guy for lunacy.
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        • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
             
          I think if anybody could come up with proof it would be Hillary and since she didn't it is well buried for all time. What a bunch of left wing loons.
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      • Author by wzwriter (December 04, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
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        And your problem seems to be putting two consecutinve words together to form a cohesive thought. It's beyond your ability, but what else should we expect from someone who names themself after the Smirking War Criminal.
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      • Author by louee (December 04, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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        You're kidding with this simpleton remark, aren't you? Whatever. Sarah Palin is a pig and a stupid one at that. Surely her 15 minutes are up. Only birther types would deign to listen to anything this moron has to say.
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      • Author by reasonablethinker (December 04, 2009 4:21 pm ET)
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        obama is our first HAWAIIAN president
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      • Author by rkcomments (December 04, 2009 8:36 pm ET)
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        When will we be liberated from the Sarah Palin and birther freakfest? The rightful place of the birthers and the Palin clan is in the Barnun and Bailey Circus.
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      • Author by mari2jj (December 06, 2009 12:59 am ET)
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        Well, I refuse to discuss Sarah Palin even in this context. As a Republican I find her totally 'ditzy' and inappropriate. There is no problem for Obama as far as his Hawaiian birth is concerned. Hawaii's Republican Governor and now her Director at the Health Department of Hawaii have both categorically stated that Barak Obama was born in Hawaii and is thus, a U S CItizen. Being born in Hawaii to an Americam mother makes him automatically an American citizen. Even a baby whose mother is an illegal still the child is considered to be a U S Citizens. Of course, the entire Birther issue is simply a cowards way to display innate racism. I find my own party to be so racist that I cannot stay. And the more I hear this tripe, the more motivated I am to switch parties. It is positively un-Christian to make these wild accusations about Obama, who was well qualified in every way to run for the Presidency. The problem for Republicans is that the McCain Palin ticket flunked out and Palin with her ditzy interview with Couric is still the lead person who flunked out for the party. Then of course, there was her inane comment that she could see Russia from her window. The woman sounds like she simply has a low IQ.
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        • Author by retiredinsf (December 06, 2009 10:13 pm ET)
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          mari: "As a Republican I find her totally 'ditzy' and inappropriate."

          Uh, yeah. The 4 or 5 clear thinking Republicans (redundant) who surf this site all believe you mari. Especially since you bought into the leftist’s lies about Palin supposedly saying she could see Russia from her window. And your comments about Republicans being racists when it's well known and provable it's the democrats who have held back minorities (aka as slavery) for decades confirms you are no Republican. Our disagreements with Obama's policy decisions have nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with him running the Country as if it's Chicago with all of its corruption and thugary. At the rate Obama's going, after 4 years our beloved Republic may well be past tense. Not to mention completely broke. By then he will have saddled all of us with at least $50,000.00 in debt for every man, woman, and child in America!

          We don't want you elitist stereotyping bigots in our GOP. Run, don't walk, to re-register as a Democrat (as if you need to, you obvious Liberal wienie).
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      • Author by 3252279519 (December 06, 2009 2:22 pm ET)
           
        I so agree.I dont think OBOMA should have children do all the work of talking to there parents why not just talk to the parents himself.....Ill tell you why he lazzy, afraid ,and childish
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    • Author by terrapin53 (December 04, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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      David Gregory will be busy kissing McCains rear end to bother asking any "controversial" type questions.
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    • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 10:59 am ET)
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      BY the way MMFA conveniently leaves out Palin's later statment. Ommission by conservatives is always harped on hear at MMFA so it's 'fair game' to point out Simon's ommission here:

      "Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States."
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      • Author by pete592 (December 04, 2009 11:15 am ET)
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        Palin says it's "a fair question" in an interview then turns around and plays innocent by saying she never asked the president to produce his birth certificate. She's being equivocal at best.
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      • Author by walstib (December 04, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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        Vitter.
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      • Author by bintx (December 04, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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        Well, she kind of lied in the rest of her statement. See, folks in Alaska were "badgering her doctor and lawyer" for proof of that Trig was her child LONG before anyone in the lower 48 even knew who the heck this woman was. It wasn't the "left." She threw her own daughter under the bus in order to try to diffuse those rumors which had drifted south after McCain made the unfortunate and cynical decision to foist this incompetent, dishonest nutjob on the rest of the country. As a woman and a mother, this person's lack of respect for her children, her disdain for the truth and her overt use of her own sexuality [while decrying "sexim"] to achieve her goals makes me want to hurl.

        The letter following her name is irrelevant.
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        • Author by thundavolt (December 04, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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          You pointed out a fact that most people don't know. On the very day she was announced as the selection google searches gave results pointing to the trig story. No matter what people would like to say to make this a partisain issue it is something that existed long before. The McCain campaign handled the whole Vice Presidential pick so badly. I almost feel sorry for Palin because she was enabled. It was like giving a coke head a key. It took 48 hours to find out that the daughter was pregnant. They tried to get rid of tracks and cached pages were popping up everywhere. I don't really care much for the Trig story but the circumstances behind her daughters pregnancy were suspect. She was out of school at the time of conception.

          Let's not even mention her attack on Levi. I don't think she wants to go down the mud slinging road because once the facts ar broken down all the people who have been defending her will have no leg to stand on and if Levi says something the media will listen. There's always a fire in Palin smoke.
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          • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
               
            Yeah! Levi is one confused young man who was spurned and you really should listen attentively to what he has to say. Ye Gads!
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        • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:13 pm ET)
             
          So hurl and get it over with.
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      • Author by bewildered (December 04, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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        It's good to point out that Sarah Palin attempted to clarify her opinion on her Facebook page. Appropriately titled "Stupid Conspiracies"

        Unfortunately, in her radio interview she still admits that attacking Obama on other non-issues such as his associations would be considered acceptable and should've been stepped up even beyond the attacks that took place during the campaign. My question is this, at what point should a politician or partisan pundit stop talking about "Stupid Conspiracies" and accept that they have been debunked or talked to death?

        Straightforwardly, Obama came out and stated that the issue regarding Palin's children is off-limits. What has Sarah done?

        A final point which I think is an ultimate 'fail' by Palin, Time and again Palin and other conservative commentators have been fervently outraged by the attacks on Sarah Palin, and now suddenly she posts on Facebook that when the left-wing badgered her they had every right to. First she complains about the attacks and now they are acceptable. What are we to believe?
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        • Author by latichever (December 04, 2009 11:57 am ET)
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          Her retraction is like a lawyer who deliberately raises a point to inflame the jury, and then meekly accedes to the judge who says she's out of order.

          The point is to get it out there, but with deniability.

          I actually didn't think she was clever enough to do that.
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      • Author by New Frontier (December 04, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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        Palin's later statment

        Then why does Palin say, "it's a fair question" to wonder whether the president was born in the United States? Was she against it before she was for it? Does she even know what her own position is??
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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          Do you disagree with this statement?

          "Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose"

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          • Author by jediknight65 (December 04, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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            but its been answered and that should be the end of it.
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          • Author by New Frontier (December 04, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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            Do you disagree with this statement?
            I asked you three questions. You answered none.
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          • Author by debwilldo (December 04, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
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            Yeah.

            Like the questions asked of the "CHICKEN HAWKS" who used every deferment (excuses)to avoid serving this country, until the baloon heads put them in office!

            Then they suddenly became "Commanders in Chief'??
            FOOLS will always try to make excuses in order to think/act like fools.


            Your handle fits, and the fact that you'd want THE DICK in office in 2012 says more about you than you may have wanted to share!.
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          • Author by wzwriter (December 04, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
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            Do you disagree with THIS statement?

            "Cheney2012 is a moronic buffoon."
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          • Author by angels4light (December 04, 2009 11:08 pm ET)
               
            Voters can ask any candidate any information they like, but they need to understand they may not get answered, and even if they do they may not like the answer. Further, should a voter ask for information that has been exhaustively covered, the voter should expect to hear "you can find the information here, here, here, and here. Next question?"
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:18 pm ET)
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            Right, we know, Dick. You believe everything is a fair question except any questions about which periodicals you read. That's the tipping point for you simple minds on the right.
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      • Author by rms (December 04, 2009 2:39 pm ET)
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        'Cheney: "BY the way MMFA conveniently leaves out Palin's later statment [sic]. Ommission [sic] by conservatives is always harped on hear [sic] at MMFA so it's 'fair game' to point out Simon's ommission [sic] here:

        "Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I've pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask..."'

        Unless, of course, if it is "gotcha" questions about what newspapers Ms. Palin may have read. Then it is unfair.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (December 04, 2009 11:08 am ET)
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      "In short, anyone who has the Birther stain is not going to be a success in the political mainstream."

      That sentence is cause enough to celebrate! Let's hope you are correct. This woman is doing a lot of things that make a legitimate candidacy less plausible on a daily basis. She is also now charging for pictures with her to raise money. I thought that was something that seedy has-been atheletes did to raise legal fees. But she should really take her own advice, if it is "'weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about, that Trig isn't my real son,'" then she shouldn't go there, it is just tacky. I never paid any attention to those rumors, and only became aware of them because she brought them up. I had not heard them in the mainstream media. Families, especially children, should be off-limits for political potshots.
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      • Author by rtwmd1230 (December 04, 2009 11:29 am ET)
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        "I thought that was something that seedy has-been atheletes did to raise legal fees."

        Substitute "politicians" for "atheletes."
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (December 04, 2009 11:18 am ET)
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      What a small-minded woman...who only an ignorant boob could admire. So much for the state of American politics...
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    • Author by shaggles (December 04, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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      The fact that a few bloggers tried to push the idea that she wasn't Trig's mother does not make her claim that she was treated poorly legitimate. Obama got and gets much worse yet we are constantly told by those on the right that the media fawns over him. The media fawned over Palin (and still does to a degree.) I never once heard a question about her son's parentage outside the bloggosphere yet CNN had Lou Dobbs questioning Obama's legitimacy nightly. The fact that Palin is willing to jump on that bandwagon now is no surprise to me. She's a politcal opportunist. However the chance of her winning the Republican nom and going head to head against President Obama in 2012 are laughably small.
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      • Author by bintx (December 04, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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        Those bloggers just picked up on the rumors which had been flying around Alaska from the minute a pin-thin Palin announced that she was 7 months pregnant. As someone who looked about 4 months pregnant when I was 6 weeks away from giving birth to my almost 10 pound daughter, I can say that it IS possible . . . well, if you are almost 5'10" and gain only 23 pounds. However, for Palin to blame "the left" for long-circulating rumors which drifted southward after she was named McCain's running mate . . . doesn't wash.
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        • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
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          The Trig rumors are just as illegitimate as the birth certificate.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (December 04, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
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            so go and tell joe farah and orly taitz to shut up then.

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          • Author by bewildered (December 05, 2009 5:13 am ET)
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            The Trig rumors are just as illegitimate as the birth certificate.


            Cheney,

            This is something I totally agree with you on. Then why is Palin still saying that the allegations against Obama are 'legitimate'?

            I wish people like her and other right-wing talking heads would just come out and say how ridiculous such allegations are so that everybody can go on to bigger issues. When popular conservative voices allow for such "Stupid Conspiracies" to continue and give the nutjobs that spew such conspiracies a voice on their TV and radio shows only further supports such nutiness.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
               
            "The Trig rumors are just as illegitimate as the birth certificate." - Dick

            Exactly, Dick. That's the whole point of the article. Do you feel even a little bit stupid that it took you this long to figure that out?
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
               
            "The Trig rumors are just as illegitimate as the birth certificate." - Dick

            Exactly, Dick. That's the whole point of the article. Do you feel even a little bit stupid that it took you this long to figure that out?
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      • Author by SMTDL (December 04, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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        You are exactly correct .The equivalent would be if there was a whole "birther" movement demanding to see Trig's birth certificate.I have no idea if Alaskans demanded that but the state of Hawaii has verified his birh,the official certificate has been posted and the nutjobs still question it.Anybody with half a brain would know there is no way this would not have come out in the democratic primary fight if there was anything legit about it!!!!Palin is too stupid to realize her giving this credibility will only help her with those already believing the nonsense.To then whine about conspiracy theories is just so hypocritical!! Obama was defending her as well when he said families were off limits.Somehow she turns it into a so called double standard .How so?? ..Michele Obama'a patriotism was attacked quite regularly and far more aggressively than Todd Palin's documented ties to the Alaska secessionist party.Good that the right wing didn't go after Malia and Sasha!!!There was nothing in the Obama family that didn't come up.They scaped the bottom of the barrel daily for weeks as much as they coudld with Rev Wright,Bill Ayres,etc.Only lines from 2 Wright sermons(out of a 1000) ever shown ..why was that? Of course McCain's connection to Rev's Persley and Hager and Palin's exorcism were hardly mentioned by comparison.Nothing about McCain being buddies with terrorist/felon G.Gordon Liddy!The same double standard as always..and there is no liberal bias to it!!!
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (December 04, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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          Nothing about McCain being buddies with terrorist/felon G.Gordon Liddy!

          Yes, but; Liddy is a true blue american patriot.
          I know because someone told me so.






          <sarc>
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
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          "How so?? ..Michele Obama'a patriotism was attacked quite regularly and far more aggressively than Todd Palin's documented ties to the Alaska secessionist party." - SMTDL

          Excellent point. Also, one that should be repeated often whenever the preposterous notion of a left-wing media comes up.
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      • Author by barbr (December 06, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
           
        Actually you should be rooting for her to win the nomination because you think she is so dingy. Guess you aren't as smart as you think you are.
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    • Author by lookoutoftheyard2251 (December 04, 2009 11:39 am ET)
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      Anybody else getting a really bad "sour grapes" vibe off this?
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      • Author by epkklk851 (December 04, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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        Yes, but that seems to be a huge part of her record. Forget the lipstick and I think the pit bull would be nicer.
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      • Author by Cheney2012 (December 04, 2009 1:36 pm ET)
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        Not nearly as bad as the 'sour grapes' we got from people like you and so-called Progressives and Democrats between Jan. 20, 2001 and Jan. 20, 2009.
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        • Author by thundavolt (December 04, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
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          Bush winning through the court can only be compared to OJ being acquitted. everyone knows what happened but they accept it because it's the law. If you can show me anyone who pushed for a legal procedure after that I will be the first to call them an idiot.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
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          That brings up a good point, though, Dick. I know you didn't mean to, but you did.

          Does anyone doubt that there would be a monumental difference in the way the right-wing would react if their nominee got the votes and lost the presidential election in court? Can you imagine the reaction? How about if there was a terrorist attack today during Obama's presidency? Remember how everyone got behind G-Dub after that? Does anyone actually think the right-wing would support Obama after such an attack?

          That's the difference between the two parties today, and a big reason why I left the Republican party. They have chosen partisanship over true patriotism. They have chosen party over country. There is no level of shamelessness so low that they will not go there if led there by their entertainers disguised as political leaders. Truly sad and pathetic.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (December 05, 2009 8:45 pm ET)
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            Does anyone actually think the right-wing would support Obama after such an attack?

            Hate radio and Fox would be in 24/7 "I told you Obama was weak on terrur" mode.
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    • Author by bigrod4u (December 04, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
         
      is it too much to to ask if Sarah Palin can provide a birth certificate for Trig as well? i mean if she lied and tried to cover it up, she is as fake as it comes...so prove it.
      as for President Obama..he proved it, he showed his birth certificate, documents show in local newspapers his birth in Hawaii.
      So the real question is who is firing this up. Well its racist right wingers who can't stand a liberal & who don't know any better. any negative attention on the President is what the right wing loves, whether its the truth or not.
      Conservatives aren't interested in the truth.
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    • Author by victhpooh (December 04, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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      It seems to me that anything the right-wing media chaotic echo chamber wants to put out there gets put out there with tons of attention and tons of dodoheads believing every word.

      We learned early on that its about framing the conversation (thomas frank: what's the matter with kansas) yet we continue to fall into their traps.

      Now its the stupid stolen and pasted together emails from the climate dudes in England. There is NO END to the damage the righties want to do to Obama and this country and we all need to remember that almost everything they say is either a lie or serious manipulation of the truth and that at least 15 MILLION americans believe them
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      • Author by hugacat7374 (December 04, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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        Sad but true, Vic. And, unfortunately, the reason they want to damage Obama and the left is out of greed. At least that's the way I see it. They're so afraid they won't be getting their multi-million dollar bonuses or that they might have to contribute more than the lower class that they're willing to buy conservative politicians and talking heads to make the left look as bad as they possibly can. Even if it means out right lying about the issues on the table or contradicting themselves in the same sentence.
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    • Author by erock33 (December 04, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      I think she would make a great president. And even if she wasn't that great at the job it would still be fun to watch the liberals with their hate, explode in flames on election night after she won.
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      • Author by Onyxcat (December 04, 2009 9:17 pm ET)
           
        We would have another president, if she gets elected, who can't put nouns and verbs with adjectives together in a coherent sentence. I prefer the current one for another term. At least one can understand what he is talking about. The ex-governor is hard to understand.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
           
        Michelle Obama?
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      • Author by wzwriter (December 05, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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        I think she would make a great president.

        What was it like when you were a kid, riding to school on that little bus??
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    • Author by DAWUSS (December 04, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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      So what if he wasn't born in the US? Who the hell cares now? Does that have any impact on his ability to serve?


      Besides, does anyone remember the RWTP when Arnold was running for Governator of Kahlifoania, and they all wanted him to run for President?
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      • Author by president96southern (December 04, 2009 4:22 pm ET)
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        No what matters is his incompetense. I keep hearing how intelligent obama is. someone better tell him there is only 50 states.
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        • Author by Brabantio (December 05, 2009 1:08 am ET)
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          Do you think Reagan was incompetent? Funny how the patron saint of conservatism thought he played President Grover Cleveland in a movie when he actually portrayed a baseball player instead, but an obvious slip of the tongue by a Democrat has far-reaching implications about his intelligence. As if you can graduate from Harvard and genuinely not know how many states there are or something.

          Buy a new talking point, you're embarrassing yourself.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
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            I particularly enjoy it when someone attacks the competence of others while mis-spelling the word. Usually, I could care less about spelling and grammar, but sometimes it is just too perfect not to notice.
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        • Author by wzwriter (December 05, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
             
          It's pretty bac when you have to recycle Limbaugh talking points from over a year ago. I guess dealing with us libs is too much for your shiveled-up conservatibe brain to handle.
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        • Author by snoopy (December 05, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
             
          What matters is your atrocious spelling and sentance structure. If you're going to question someone's intelligence it's usually a good idea to not look like some ignorant hick from a trailer park when you write.
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (December 06, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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          No (insert comma) what matters is his incompetense (sic). I keep hearing how intelligent obama(capital O) is. someone (capital letter O) better tell him there is (sic; are) only 50 states.


          And he has the cojones to complain about Obama's lack of intelligence? I'd ask you to produce your birth certificate, president96KKK, but it would be more interesting to produce your last report card instead...
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (December 05, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
           
        I agree, Dawuss. I think Arnold should be able to run for president, too. I also think we should do away with the electoral college. If we choose the president through an election, then we get the president we deserve. Even when they suck. That's a democracy.
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    • Author by barbrajeanne3947 (December 04, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
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      So the "Queen of Face Book" went Birther. That's okay, Sarah, I am of the belief that if you clap your hands real loud, the Fairies will hear you.
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    • Author by manofmystique (December 04, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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      This goes to show you that Sarah Palin should never have been considered or chosen to be a VP. She can not accept a fact when there is absolutely no evidence to the contrary.
      Because Sarah doesn't want to accept the fact or truth, she keeps the lie alive for political reasons only, believing it will hurt the President in some way.
      This is the same nonsense the misguided Tea Baggers and the mentally-challenged Birthers engages in (stupidity). Not only is Sarah unqualified to run for the Oval office, she seems to be unstable (you know, do and say anything).
      As a Republican candidate Sarah was a divisive figure willing to call her opponent "someone who pals around with "terrorist" (that is a terrible thing to say).
      In other words, Sarah will say anything to win. If that wasn't enough she quit her job as Governor of Alaska. How can anyone take Sarah serious, and how could anyone, including the media, think she should run for anything other than a soup kitchen?
      The question is why in the hell did John McCain pick this hussy in the first place? Was he thinking "country first" or was he using Sarah as a ploy hoping Obama would attack her knowing this would offend white people (black man attacking white woman)? This could be the ONLY logical reason (cynical) why John McCain picked this woman.
      Well McCain, it backfired, because Obama knew better than to attack a white woman in America politics.
      Now you have a black President and your VP choice will stay in the limelight and haunt you for a long time.

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      • Author by tbone (December 04, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
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        McCain picked Sarah because he was weak with women and with the evangelicals. While he gained with the latter, poor vetting caused losses with the former due to her anti-abortion and socially regressive politics. The pick also damaged him with independents and fiscal moderates because of her lack of qualifications.

        Sarah was qualified to be mayor of Wasilla, that's it.
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        • Author by wzwriter (December 05, 2009 8:46 pm ET)
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          She was a lousy mayor, too. Remember when she made rape victims pay for the rape kits used to gather evidence?
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      • Author by angels4light (December 04, 2009 11:26 pm ET)
           
        Actually, unless I misremember my Constitution, Mrs. Palin is qualified. She is over 35, a natural born citizen, and has spent the requisite number of recent years in the USA. Would I hire her for the job? No, I would absolutely not!
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    • Author by tbone (December 04, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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      Dear RNC,

      This is the highest profile party member you've got out there making news. Doesn't she just make you beam with pride at her reasoned, in-depth, and articulate advocacy of the ideals and principles of the party?

      Sarah, the gift that keeps on giving.
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      • Author by wzwriter (December 04, 2009 3:56 pm ET)
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        When people hear the words "Republican Party", I don't want them to think of famous Republicans of the past like Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Everett Dirkson, or Ronald Reagan.

        I want then to think of Caribou Barbie.
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    • Author by Publius39 (December 04, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
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      Well, it seems that the drive-by thumbs downer hit all you guys simply because we all know that this birther conspiracy is complete idiocy and needs to be put to bed once and for all. We've seen the birth-certificate several times, both on his campaign website and printed in Newsweek for the whole world to see, so this is pretty much a non-issue. It really is a shame that the respect that was given to McCain during the presidential race concerning his birth in Panama wasn't extended to Obama, which shows the classiness of the right-wing.
      The problem is, I don't understand what Palin is trying to do. She quit her constituents in Alaska based on idiotic reasoning, and had a chance to go get educated on the issues that she obviously had no clue on during the race. She ignored that possibility and is conducting a schizophrenic tour of the nation which is further demonstrating her ineptitude and her inability to hold any position that involves responsibility.
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    • Author by ImUrBigotH8Me (December 04, 2009 9:40 pm ET)
         
      who says she was endorsing the Birthers? She didn't, she was using it as a comparison or the Lefts Hypocrisy! you crazy Liberals are still trying to find dirt on her... still trying... no dirt yet... why are you so afraid of her? the AP 11 reporters for her book! no dirt... MM no dirt... Bristols kids father no dirt... still trying...
      I'm no birther but it is interesting that the service member who went to court over it was not required to deploy because the US Military couldnt prove Him as US born.
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    • Author by angels4light (December 04, 2009 10:41 pm ET)
         
      While I agree that the idea that President Obama is not a natural born citizen is pure fantasy that some have convinced themselves is plausible, it is as false to say that Mrs. Palin has gone "birther" as it is to say that President Obama is not a natural born citizen. Let her hoist herself on her own petard, as she is doing so amazingly well - don't fall into the same pit that she has dug for herself.
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    • Author by StHarding (December 05, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
         
      A great time-wasting argument, the "birther" question. Let me propose a thought experiment: Suppose all of the "birther" assertions are true. We have a radical Kenya-born Muslim Communist in the White House with a hidden agenda to enslave all freedom-loving christian conservatives. All of the MSM and leaders of both parties have dismissed the issue and moved on. So, if this is true, what happens next? Islamic banking reform? Cede Afghanistan to the Taliban? Maybe something even more sinister that you will never know because you are WASTING YOUR TIME ON A DEAD ISSUE? At least MM is paying attention. More reading and less ranting!
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    • Author by NotDumdedDown (December 06, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
         
      I'm extremely disappointed to read about this huge LIE on this of all web sites. "One of the few legitimate grievances Sarah Palin had regarding the way she was treated during the 2008 presidential campaign centered on the ludicrous questions about her son Trig's birth. There was never any real reason to question whether she was, indeed, Trig's mother, and the few online media types who flogged the bogus story line certainly didn't do themselves any credit".

      Mr. Maloy, you really need to educate yourself regarding Sarah's faked pregnancy. You've really discredited yourself and the whole Media Matters organization.

      Please go to this website www.palindeception.com
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    • Author by retiredinsf (December 06, 2009 10:30 pm ET)
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      Man, you people are really scared of Palin, eh? And worse, you are a very SICK hate-filled group. With your silly allegations about whom gave birth to whom. Are you that upset with her not aborting a down baby as per the normal leftist policy of kicking to the curb those who can't defend themselves?
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      • Author by wzwriter (December 07, 2009 9:04 am ET)
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        Man, you people are really scared of Palin, eh? And worse, you are a very SICK hate-filled group. With your silly allegations about whom gave birth to whom. Are you that upset with her not aborting a down baby as per the normal leftist policy of kicking to the curb those who can't defend themselves?

        We fear for our country if an unqualified imbecile even dumber than George W. Bush gets into the White House.

        And when it comes to hate-filled groups, you righties are the ones who have cornered the market in hate.
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        • Author by retiredinsf (December 07, 2009 10:12 am ET)
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          wz: "We fear for our country if an unqualified imbecile even dumber than George W. Bush gets into the White House."

          In case you missed it we already have an unqualified imbecile in the White House. For example Obama has no private sector experience and has surrounded himself with same. 92% of his cabinet / aides have no experience in actually working for a living. Like Obama, they have spent their entire adult life sucking on the teats of Government. This is why unemployment is over 10% (after Obama promised it wouldn't exceed 8% if he could have our almost $trillion in stimulus money!). He and his staff don't have a clue on how to stimulate job growth. This is why they must lie about how many jobs they have created or "saved".

          BTW: Bush was and is MUCH smarter then Gore, Kerry, and even Obama. He was smart enough to stop terrorism for over 7 years protecting you and yours - the most important issue facing our Country. Nothing else matters if we aren't safe on our own soil.
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          • Author by retiredinsf (December 07, 2009 10:25 am ET)
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            2BTW: For you leftists who have so much trouble with science and math, a trillion is $1,000,000,000,000.00. Enough money to spend a million a DAY since JC was born and still have almost $250 Billion left over.
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