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Beck's latest bigoted rant targets India and Indian-Americans

December 10, 2009 11:05 am ET by John V. Santore

In support of health care reform, SEIU's website recently highlighted the case of Karlyn Zimbelman, an American who received successful medical treatment abroad because she couldn't foot the $40,000 bill for hip replacement surgery she would have been forced to pay in the United States. And so, she went to India, where the surgery and 13 days of medical care cost her $12,500 -- $16,500 with travel and other costs.

Beck ran parts of a video testimonial from Ms. Zimbelman, who had the audacity to say the following: "I think the American health care system is excellent, but I just think it's so expensive. Where's the money going?" Beck then offered the following explanation of the cost differential (emphasis added):

The best I can figure is all that money goes to high-tech hospitals and doctors who studied at Harvard rather than Gajra Raja medical school. Oh sure, yeah, you know, it's weird. You can buy a Gucci bag on any New York street corner for like four bucks. No different than the 3,000 dollar real thing. They're identical!

But he wasn't finished. Beck continued (emphasis added):

And also, in our research that it took us, oh about 40 seconds, we figured out that some of that money here in America winds up in the pocket of a skilled doctor that helps off-set the 20 years of schooling that he endured and the loans he took out. And - you're not going to believe this one, Karlyn - some of that money seems to go to the 1 million SEIU workers in the healthcare industry that make slightly more here than in India. Because, you know, they have an American lifestyle, maybe a couple of cars, great union benefits, and homes with something that we in America like to call flush toilets.

And finally (emphasis added):

I don't want a discounted doctor. I don't want discounted wages. I don't want any of this stuff. If I wanted to live in India, I'd live in India. I want not the Indian lifestyle, I want the American lifestyle. I'm sure, no offense to India, I'm sure it's beautiful and everything. I've heard especially this time of year, especially by the - you know that one big river they have there that sounds like a disease? Come on, it does. I mean, if somebody said, 'I'm sorry, you have a really bad case of Ganges,' you'd want Cipro." 

Thus, within the span of a few minutes, Beck implied that there are no quality medical schools in India; implied that medical care in India is a shoddy imitation of real health care; implied that the entire nation is an undeveloped backwater without even so much as indoor plumbing; and compared the Ganges River, a holy body of water for one of the world's oldest and largest religions, to a disease.

What does this say about Beck's respect for the millions of Indian-Americans living in the United States, let alone the Indian people? What does it say about his respect for the faith traditions of others? What does it say about his views on the tens of thousands of doctors who graduate Indian medical schools every year in the hopes of serving the world's second largest nation? Or on the tens of thousands of doctors who studied medicine in India but now practice it in the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, or Australia

Most importantly, why does Beck feel that ignorant, bigoted rants like these are funny? Or does he simply have so little respect for his viewers that he thinks he must resort to this kind of xenophobia in order to maintain his ratings?

You can watch the clips here:

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    • Author by Max Credits (December 10, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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      Glenn Beck gets paid $23,000,000 in salary to disparage non-whites. It's really that simple.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 10, 2009 11:24 am ET)
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        And how can he say "I don't want discounted wages" in what was, in partm, an anti-union rant?!

        These guys talk about about Obama never having a "real job."

        How much of the "real world" have you experienced if you think decent wages for labor and service jobs come from management's generosity, rather that union clout?!

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        No one making less than $250,000 a year should ever vote for or listen to these clowns.
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      • Author by aquatwerp (December 10, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
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        I know. If Beck was really as benevolent as he says he is, he would have some of his production facilities over in India so that he could provide them with more jobs. Oh wait, that would mean that he doesn't have to pay as much in salary which would mean that he makes even more money. Hmmmm. Dilemma. I think the unions need to get involved and create a global minimum wage to even things out.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 10, 2009 11:26 am ET)
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      LOL - was I the only one who confused Indian-Americans with American-Indians and thought that he had made a "dots versus feathers" kind of statement?

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    • Author by The_Cat (December 10, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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      The funny thing is, Glenn, that India's middle class is actually doing better than America's middle class. The reason is simple. Quite a few of our white and blue collar jobs have been sent there. Do they get paid less? Yes, because their cost of living is lower. But on the difference, those in corporate power have saved enough money gutting the American middle class of jobs that they can pay you to say pretty much whatever they tell you to. You are a part of what's trying to wreck Amercia, Glenn, and I like to think in your more lucid moments you are aware of that. And ashamed.
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      • Author by miles2go (December 10, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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        "You are a part of what's trying to wreck Amercia, Glenn, and I like to think in your more lucid moments you are aware of that. And ashamed."

        Da nile aint just a river in egypt. And it sounds like a disease? Come on, it does. I mean, if somebody said, 'I'm sorry, you have a really bad case of denile,' you'd want Cipro.
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      • Author by rtejon (December 10, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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        The folks we talk to at the call centers are typically graduate students and the $5/hour they make is pretty good money for where they are in life. Personally, if I ever have a complaint about dealing with them, it's the fault of whatever script the employer (the worst being Charter Cable) gave them and not their own. Best of all, they never give me any attitude like US-based customer support often does.
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        • Author by Midnight Kevin (December 10, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
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          The Indians I have spoken to over the phone were much nicer then the call centers I reached that were located in New Jersey...
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          The Midnight Review
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          • Author by rtejon (December 11, 2009 8:38 pm ET)
               
            I'd love to hear why someone voted thumbs-down on our comments here but I seriously doubt they'll explain themselves.
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          • Author by jeff191 (December 12, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
               
            Im sure that statement could be spun by beck to mean you hate americans
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 10, 2009 12:57 pm ET)
           
        You got it!

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        Great post
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    • Author by Good Creon (December 10, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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      Most importantly, why does Beck feel that ignorant, bigoted rants like these are funny?

      Maybe he thinks he's this generations Archie Bunker? You know, without the heart.
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    • Author by Leftym0m79 (December 10, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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      I...ah...wow. This is a prime example as to why some animals eat their young.
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    • Author by jeff191 (December 10, 2009 11:44 am ET)
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      strange, when Beck was on CNN,he did a profile of the"nightmare" that was the American health care system. now its the best in the world
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    • Author by nerzog (December 10, 2009 11:49 am ET)
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      Beck is just doing his job, here. The Republican Base is comprised primarily of White Southern Christian Conservatives. Beck doesn't have to make sense to get them all lathered up; all he has to do is point out that somebody, anybody, who is not a White Southern Christian Conservative is threatening their fantasy of what America used to be.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (December 10, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
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        "...is threatening their fantasy of what America used to be."--nerzog

        Good line!
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      • Author by RadicalAmericanPatriot (December 10, 2009 4:14 pm ET)
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        nerzog you are cdertainl a racist. Is the best you can do is insult the intellectual capacity of anyone who disagrees with you? In your fantasy world liberals (read that: Neo-Marxists) are superior intellectually and if someone disagrees with you obviously is a stupid moron. That's called an 'ad hominem' attack. Convenient, since you never have to answer the arguements of disagreement. Of course, you really don't have answers, just threats of use of power against those that disagree.
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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (December 10, 2009 5:34 pm ET)
             
          Of course, you really don't have answers, just threats of use of power against those that disagree.


          Yeah, knock it off and quit threatening everyone, Nerz! =>
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        • Author by rtejon (December 11, 2009 8:42 pm ET)
             
          RAP (did you realize that's your screen-name initials?), there's a certain quote by Mark Twain that you should really take to heart. Hint: it's alluded to in the item about Ed Morrissey's take on the Jennings thing.
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    • Author by carlosjl48 (December 10, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
         
      Fascinating. We are already living the Indian lifestyle since telecoms like Verizon and credit card companies like Master Card already have shifted a lot of American jobs to India. These out=sourced American jobs already pay for the Indian health system. If the sobbing entertainer was serious, he would probably never use his credit card again. Oh, silly me, I forgot he works for international media mogul Rupert Murdoch whose only reason for becoming an American was so that he could own TV stations here and pollute our airwaves with the Foxy Newsy Network. Maybe Beck and Rupert can move together to Australia or share a condo in Dubai.
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    • Author by quicksilvertogo (December 10, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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      mediamatters should send this to some kind of Indian American lobbying group.
      After calling the President a racist Glenn Beck should not be allowed to say things like this on a national "news" network
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      • Author by SoloPocono (December 10, 2009 7:17 pm ET)
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        I already did-many of my friends in India are FURIOUS over this. We can only hope that IBN or the other major outlets will pick it up. Of course, they already laugh at us-feeling Obama is almost as Conservative as Bush. They were NOT very impressed with his speech this morning-Indian's are very good at analyzing subtleties....
        Anyways, I can't tell you how many times my friends have asked me WHY WE, (Progressives), are not out in the streets protesting what is going on--instead of the wacky teabaggers they see in YouTube videos.
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    • Author by shaggles (December 10, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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      I would think Beck would be all for the Indian lifestyle. You know: the caste system, low, low wages, filthy rich people living right next to slums and completely ignoring them... SOunds like his ideal society.
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    • Author by Deviated Septum (December 10, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
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      Good to know that voters are lining up to get into the pup tent that is the conservative movement/Republican Party. If Glenn is to be believed they are so popular that they can alienate every single group that isn't old, white and wealthy.

      Ideaologically pure and completely politically irrelevant. That is how I like my GOP. GO GLENN!!!
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    • Author by HistoricallyCorrect (December 10, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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      I guess he hasn't heard of cost of living.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (December 10, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
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      I wonder how many Indian doctors studied in america. Beck is phoney and he wears thin. His ratings are falling as people are finally strating to see through him as the true rodeo clown that he is.
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      • Author by bintx (December 10, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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        Again, he's no rodeo clown. Those guys are very courageous and do their jobs fearlessly. Beck is simply a clown [with apologies to all the really funny clowns out there who make people laugh].
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    • Author by soze169880 (December 10, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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      Why is Glenn Beck treating us to another ill-informed racist rant and getting paid to do it?
      A. Alcohol
      B. Cocaine
      C. Schizophrenia
      D. It is written
      Glenn Beck in "Dumbf___k Millionaire"... coming soon to a 17-seat theater near you.
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    • Author by jediknight65 (December 10, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
         
      the Ed Wood of Cable news everyone!
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    • Author by Übermensch (December 10, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
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      you stay classy fox news

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      • Author by soze169880 (December 10, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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        I love how that headline about "Holiday Cards" is the EXACT SAME THING the Bushes did.
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      • Author by epkklk851 (December 10, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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        Well, good, the U.S. is a wonderful country, but it is not exempt from the rules or laws. The sooner we discover that, the better off we will all be.
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    • Author by dunman1 (December 10, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
         
      Noo... it's too easy.
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    • Author by snoopy (December 10, 2009 2:06 pm ET)
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      So beck, if indians suck so bad, why is it all of corporate america is busting tail to quickly train indian replacements for american jobs that are being outsourced to india? You know, those same corporate shills who pay your salary by advertising on your show? You know something they don't?
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    • Author by Jungle Kng (December 10, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
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      Beck has not the slightest clue about Indian medicine and indian doctors. The man would stoop to any levels for ratings.I think the medical community should come out against his racist rants; This guy needs a reality check and some history lessons. No one goes to india if it weren't for their highly skilled doctors with experience and their speciality hospitals. The recent highly complex surgery on a girl with 8 limbs just shows their capability.

      Regarding, the quality of the doctors there. To get into some medical specialities in india, it is so competitive, very hard and requires quick and vast knowledge and skills. Comparitively, the medical exams to enter into US practice are easier. Many easily ace them. (99% in all). Beck needs some history lesson too. Indians were poineers with medicine with invention of Ayurveda; that being around from 2000 BC.

      If I had a surgery requirment and my insurance is willing to pay roundtrip to india and give some cash as incentive,then why not take it? I will take it. May be I will call Beck and ask him about some tips about saving healthcare costs. Btw, 'ganges' - is an old lame joke, Dont copy, Beck! be original.
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    • Author by Conchobhar (December 10, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
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      Thumbs up to all who've posted so far. I think this says all you really need to know about Glenn Beck, his intellect and integrity, "40 seconds of research!?", and his qualifications to opine on national and international politics.
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    • Author by ProperPerspective (December 10, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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      This guy continues to be a total enigma to me. He's clearly not too bright and he is infamous for melodramatic (and oftentimes false) tyrades. Someone PLEASE explain to me how this guy has any following whatsoever...
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    • Author by Yankees_Universe (December 10, 2009 3:35 pm ET)
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      No wonder people hate American attitude overseas. It is because of idiots like Beck. He has audacity to insult the entire country and religion for no reason. Just because health care system in America is broken he takes shot at India? wow..classy..only on Fox..Fair & Balanced.
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    • Author by Yankees_Universe (December 10, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
         
      Does he have guts to call Dr.Deepak Chopra and tell him this on his face? He is an India and a Doctor and did his education in India.
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    • Author by RavenRog (December 10, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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      Remember when Joe Biden said on the Presidential campaign trail in 2007 that you can't walk into a 7/11 without a slight Indian accent?

      You don't?

      Ok then...back to ripping the right as they of course are the only bigots in news/politics. Sure...
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      • Author by Conchobhar (December 10, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
           
        And you consider whataboutery to be a powerful argumentative tool?
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      • Author by thinkequality (December 10, 2009 7:30 pm ET)
           
        I don't think we are talking about Joe Biden here. *looks around*

        You could also say, "...back to bringing up some random event in the past, when a Democrat did something similar, to take attention away from the current situation." I don't see anyone here making excuses for Biden's statement.

        Being a part of the right had nothing to do with why we are "ripping" Beck.
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    • Author by Porkeater (December 10, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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      This kind of jingo invective is just not okay. All Americans should be ashamed that Beck is allowed to speak this on a national broadcast. Of all the many issues and problems in America, there is none more hateful than hate like this... except the companies who support it, and the people who let it slide.
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    • Author by Conchobhar (December 10, 2009 4:18 pm ET)
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      Has anyone ever done a study comparing acceptance rates at MIT between Beck listeners and graduates of Indian secondary schools?
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    • Author by rkcomments (December 10, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
         
      I feel sorry for his mom. One bigoted apple does not fall far from the tree.
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    • Author by RadicalAmericanPatriot (December 10, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
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      It was very convenient for you to leave out the part comparing the average per capital wage in India, appr. $1,076 USD, versus $27,000 in the US. Glenn was not attacking India, but the SEIU suggestion that India provides lower priced medical care. You also left out where Glenn accurately points out that Andy Stern, who acknowledges his goal is world-wide communism, "Workers of the World Unite!". The average doctor in India is paid around $5,000 per year; many of the top doctors pay that much in taxes, in a month. Hey, if we eliminated many of the taxes and malpractice, lawsuits doctors could reduce their rates!? Nah, how can we control people's behavior if we don't use the tax system?

      You use words like "implied" to accuse Beck of attacking the Indian healthcare system. The caste system is still in existence in India, many would not even be allowed to get the surgery because of their social status, is that fair? The woman herself acknowledged that the US healthcare system is excellent, even the best in the world. That obviously implies that it is inferior elsewhere. After 1984 Canadians have voted with their feet; The waiting time there and in England for even basic procedures are ridiculous! Accusing Beck racism is silly and ignores the real issue, I assume deliberately.
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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (December 10, 2009 6:00 pm ET)
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        After 1984 Canadians have voted with their feet;


        Liar.

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      • Author by gryphonheart (December 10, 2009 8:27 pm ET)
           
        US system best in the world??? really... You still feeding that lie...
        37th my friend.. it ranks 37th in the world.. hardly the best...

        BTW: Nobody in India is denied treatment because of their "caste". There have been no cases of such a thing happening in recent memory. Yes.. a lot of people miss out on quality health care... because they dont have money.. or they dont have access to a high standard of care. There is a great disparity between socio-economic levels and people get health care according to their level... But hang on.. isn't it the same in the US... Isnt that what people like Becky here STRIVE to achieve...
        Beck DID attack Indians... He had a point to make... and he could have made it... instead of comparing Indian doctors to "$4 gucci bags" and calling our Holy River synonymous with a fictional disease... That's bigotry... racist ... and insensitive..
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      • Author by rtejon (December 11, 2009 8:46 pm ET)
           
        Does any of that justify insulting an entire people?
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    • Author by jimhum (December 10, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
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      I visited India a few years ago, and here is what I found. I have talked to people from India recently, and they say this is still true.

      In Manila my ship picked up a bunch of Indian Diplomats, to take home to Calcutta. Those Indians were being thrown out of Manila because they had collaborated with the Japanese during the war. No one would even help them load their belongings onto the ship, so they had to take just what they could carry. What dirty, dirty people, even the ones who were very, very rich!

      I remember that the Indian Diplomat with the highest rank came to the Chief Steward and said, “We are of different castes, so you must feed us in separate dining rooms.” The Steward replied, “Those tables right there are for all of you, and the meals are served between these hours, and if that's not fine with you, some of you will just have to starve.” (You can bet those weren't his exact words, but this is a family publication.) And they found they could sit in the same room and eat next to each other, just fine.

      When the ship got to Singapore the Captain tried to put the Indian Diplomats ashore, but he wasn't allowed to do that. They not only were living like pigs, but since they had a couple of sewing machines they were stealing white sheets to make clothes for themselves, among the more minor things.

      When we got to Calcutta and they left the ship, their rooms were an awful mess, and smelled terrible. It was difficult to get them clean enough for other people to use during the trip home.

      At the dock in Calcutta, India, they were removing a huge concrete slab, several inches thick. Several hundred men dressed in loincloths, shoulder to shoulder, squatted on their heels, with a small chisel, and a small hammer. At best they removed an inch or two of the slab each day.

      I was surprised when I saw beautiful US Army Nurses, and Red Cross ladies, walking the streets of Calcutta. I was even more surprised when I saw little boys holler “Bakshee,” (gift) then holler other phrases containing four-letter-words in English, not usually said to nice girls. After they boarded our troop ship, I asked a couple of the ladies why those boys said what they did. They responded, “The blankity, blank GIs told the kids that we would consider that a complement, and would donate more.”



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      • Author by gryphonheart (December 10, 2009 8:30 pm ET)
           
        A few years ago??? This sounds more like something from the 40's!! maybe even 1840's!!
        U sure u even went.. or did you just read some Kipling?
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    • Author by jimhum (December 10, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
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      I forgot to say that I have ancestors from India.
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      • Author by i_r_squared (December 11, 2009 11:12 am ET)
           
        Well, yes, jimhum, you're right. It IS only a few years since 1945. India hasn't made much progress since.
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      • Author by wackapalooza (December 11, 2009 8:30 pm ET)
           
        You have ancestors from India... a likely story. After your rant above, it's very likely you're as racist as Beck himself. If you're going to be so openly racist, at least come up with a better "excuse."
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    • Author by gryphonheart (December 10, 2009 7:40 pm ET)
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      Well.. Becky...
      There are about 35000 indian american doctors. (Go here to see what some of these "$4 gucci bags" are doing for you http://www.littleindia.com/news/139/ARTICLE/1945/2007-12-03.html). So next time you end up in the hospital (from a public beating one hopes) there is a good chance that you will be treated by a "Gajra Rajah" graduate... who probably teaches at harvard as well.
      As an Indian and a Medical Scientist I find this highly offensive. Currently 68% of Indian Americans hold a bachelor's degree... compared to the national average of only 28%. Globally, and especially in first world countries such as US, Canada, UK and Australia Indians provide invaluable services as doctors, nurses and scientists. So we can do without the abuse thank you.
      And the Ganges is more than a river to us... she is considered to be a godess and a mother. The giver of life and the cleanser of impurities. So please refrain from insulting our religious figures in the future. And it's pretty much coming from someone whose religion sounds like a chocolatey snack ("could I have some Bonbons, Tim Tams and some mormons please?") and where you have a river which sounds like a funny name little boys would give to female genitalia (mississippi).
      Next time you are with an Indian doctor... be careful my friend... hope you dont end up with an air bubble in your veins.
      "Thank you... come again."
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    • Author by NobodysFool (December 11, 2009 10:45 am ET)
         
      How many times have I heard Beck evoke the name of Ronald Reagan? After that stream of ignorance he spewed against the Indian People and their religion, he should be banned from even thinking about our 40th President. For Ronald Reagan loved America - her people, her diversity, her inherent ethic messiness. With the possible exception of Russia, he never disparaged any other nation. And even in the case of Russia, he trashed its leadership, not its people. I would challenge anyone to find one bigoted remark Reagan ever made during his entire tenure in office.

      Glenn Beck certainly is a bigot. He is not a true American.
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    • Author by gordonmansley (December 11, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
         
      My dad went to Thailand and got dental work done. he got a really nice implant, and a bridge. The alternative in the US would have been 1,000s more. Our AMERICAN dentist inspected it and said it was "really good work".

      US Citizens are sometimes very ignorant of what goes on outside our borders. People question medical tourism in this dismissive way, but know nothing except their own prejudices.
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    • Author by linda60 (December 13, 2009 12:19 am ET)
         
      While I agree with some of what Mr. Beck said concerning the difference in the standard of living between our two countries, he didn't consider how much profit hospitals make. I have read several articles lately that show that people without insurance will be billed more for a procedure than people with insurance for the same operation. When the price of an aspirin in a hospital cost $5.00 a piece, or a box of Kleenex $3.00 that's greed. Ex-Senator Bill Frist's father became a billionaire when he founded HCA Inc. (Hospital Corporation of America). Hospitals and healthcare insurance companies should have never been allowed to be for-profit.
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