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Why does the LAT allow Andrew Malcolm to continue to misrepresent polling?

December 10, 2009 6:19 pm ET by Jamison Foser

Los Angeles Times reporter -- and former Laura Bush flak -- Andrew Malcolm struggles with many aspects of his current career, but reporting on polls may give him the most trouble.

Lately, the erstwhile Bush aide has appeared to be auditioning for a gig with Sarah Palin by -- among other things -- repeatedly offering absurd apples-and-oranges comparisons of Palin's favorability rating with President Obama's job approval rating.

But Malcolm outdid himself today, shoe-horning in a sentence about Palin's favorability rating into a blog post about public skepticism that Obama has done enough to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize:

Almost nearly not quite one-in-five Americans believes that President Obama has accomplished enough to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize that he had to go to Norway in December to collect.

...

Doing the math from those numbers, that means that during the past eight weeks or so the proportion of fellow countrypersons who think the Chicago Democrat is undeserving of the global-peace-prize distinction has gone from an overwhelming 67% majority up to a gargantuan, ground-shaking tsunami landslide majority of 80%.

Perhaps having something to do with the same award-winning U.S. president having just ordered another 30,000 combat soldiers into the increasingly unpopular and peaceless battle for Afghanistan. A subject Obama might address in his address. (Text here later.)

Meanwhile, the favorability rating of Republican Sarah Palin, an unemployed itinerant author, have climbed back up to 46% from a summertime low of 39%.

So now Malcolm is comparing Palin's favorable ratings to the number of people who think Obama deserves the Nobel?  That isn't apples and oranges, that's apples and ... I don't know, rattlesnakes, maybe.  Or frisbees.  Something very much unlike an apple, anyway.

Meanwhile, that Palin favorability rating Malcolm thinks is so darn impressive?  It's 46 percent -- with a 46 percent unfavorability rating.  Palin's unfavorable rating is just one point lower than John Edwards'.  Her net fav/unfav is significantly worse than that of Vice President Joe Biden, who Malcolm mocks daily.  Palin's numbers, in other words, are not good.  Malcolm has to invent bogus comparisons in order to make them look good.  (Well, that's not quite true: He could simply note that she has lower unfavorable ratings than Dick Cheney.)

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    • Author by The_Cat (December 10, 2009 8:05 pm ET)
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      Running a close second to his difficulty with poll numbers would be his difficulty with language.
      Almost nearly not quite one in five Americans...

      What is that? The new math? And that's the first eight words of his entry!
      Doing the math from those numbers, that means that during the past eight weeks or so the proportion of fellow countrypersons who think the Chicago Democrat is undeserving of the global-peace-prize distinction has gone from an overwhelming 67% majority up to a gargantuan, ground-shaking tsunami landslide majority of 80%.

      So, yes, it is the new math. Mr. Malcom, unlike those who read your work uncritically, I went and did a little of my own research on the CNN poll you are hawking.
      Guess what? You missed a few things in your haste to call bad news down on our President's head.

      You can find the poll here.

      Among other things, the second sentence of the article in which the poll appears:
      But according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, a majority of the public believes that the president will eventually accomplish enough to merit the honor.

      Then there is the second paragraph:
      Nineteen percent of people questioned in the poll released Wednesday afternoon say Obama currently deserves the prize, with another 35 percent saying that it's likely he will eventually accomp0lish enough in office to deserve the award. Still, greater than four in 10 believe the president will never deserve the prize.

      You had little difficulty seizing on the 19 percent (Almost nearly not quite one-in-five Americans, remember?), but skipped over the majority who say he either does deserve it, or will earn it before he leaves office. Then you said:
      If he waits much longer, it'll be down to 1-in-10.

      Really? Based on what, wishful thinking? You go on to claim that, according to news reports earlier in the day, President Obama's decision to cancel some of the traditional stops of Peace Prize recipients 'isn't going over to well up there.' From the article you linked to, at the Guardian (UK):
      According to a poll published by the daily tabloid VG, 44% of Norwegians believe it was rude of Obama to cancel his scheduled lunch with King Harald, with only 34% saying they believe it was acceptable.

      "Of all the things he is cancelling, I think the worst is cancelling the lunch with the king," said Siv Jensen, the leader of the largest party in opposition, the populist Progress party. "This is a central part of our government system. He should respect the monarchy," she told VG.

      The Norwegian Nobel committee, which awards the peace prize, dismissed the criticism. "We always knew that there were too many events in the programme. Obama has to govern the US and we were told early on that he could not commit to all of them," said Geir Lundestad, secretary of the committee.

      So, it's not a majority of Norwegians who are upset over the President's decision, and the committee itself understood that a sitting President may have a busy schedule that would not allow for all the traditional activities.

      By the way, even though they didn't lunch together, Obama did still meet with the Norwegian king. Just my guess based on the recent past, but a luncheon photo up might've given you another chance to see Obama bow, right? Stir up a little more of the right's favorite brew? Tempest in a Teapot? I hear it's not as good warmed over.

      What next? Oh, right. Back to the new math:
      [quote][Doing the math from those numbers, that means that during the past eight weeks or so the proportion of fellow countrypersons who think the Chicago Democrat is undeserving of the global-peace-prize distinction has gone from an overwhelming 67% majority up to a gargantuan, ground-shaking tsunami landslide majority of 80%./quote]
      So, neither math nor the English language are your friends, are they Mr. Malcom? You claim that just because 20% think Obama deserved the Peace Prize, 80% must automatically be opposed, but the poll doesn't bear that out, does it? Really, neither does common sense, but I suspect you are just as deficient in that as well.
      Uh-oh. You didn't stop there? Ooops.
      Meanwhile, the favorability rating of Republican Sarah Palin, an unemployed itinerant author, have climbed back up to 46% from a summertime low of 39%.

      First mistake? You linked to the LA Times piece that claimed to interpret the poll, rather than the poll itself, which is here.
      Also, you are conflating job approval ratings for Obama with favorability ratings with Palin. Palin stands at 46% favorable, and 46% unfavorable. So, I did what you should've done: research.
      When you compare favorability ratings--apples to apples--Obama still leads Palin by a distance. The latest Gallup poll puts Obama's favorability 16 points ahead of Palin's, ABC puts his lead at 18 points, and CNN says it's 18 points higher. (Only Fox has the gap in single digits, with a seven-point spread.)
      (from Slate.com)
      So, basically what you've written here is propaganda. It wasn't properly researched, it wasn't properly sourced, and it certainly never saw the dark red pen of an editor. It also failed to reflect reality as it is, but it gives a good picture of reality as you wish it to be. If only there was a market for news from Neverland.
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      • Author by The_Cat (December 11, 2009 1:08 am ET)
           
        Gonna have to start using the 'preview' button for these longer posts...
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      • Author by Icewalker (December 11, 2009 1:17 am ET)
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        ooh please the man with all due respect of his monumental achievements and status as president has not earn the coveted prize but rather it was foreign attempts at swaying the US decision to further add troops to the war effort continue the bush strategies and policies in regards to the war effort. they tried to influence the decision of our president to apply there values to the detriment of our mission and goals as a country
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (December 11, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
           
        Excellent take-down, Cat. I would add three quick points:

        1. Malcolm, like every other Nobel naysayer, declines to name someone whom he thinks would be more worthy for the award. This makes his entire contention meaningless.

        2. Malcolm thinks, erroneously, that labeling someone a "Chicago Democrat" is a tremendous insult. By doing so, he is (a) not showing proper respect for the office of the president, and (b) insulting Chicagoans. This foolishness is on a par with his writing and math skills.

        3. Malcolm identifies Palin as an author, when it is an open secret that her book was ghostwritten (as will be anything from George & Laura, no doubt).
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    • Author by Icewalker (December 11, 2009 1:01 am ET)
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      what makes her so interesting is the determination of the left to ruin her credibility thru viscious coordinated attacks in sinc with the lefts media machine and repeatedly attacking her trying to affect public perception of her and her ideas as a average american with conservitive values that fly in the face of the liberal idea of a female presidential prospect cause she does not comply with the feminist values and agenda.
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    • Author by Icewalker (December 11, 2009 1:24 am ET)
         
      I cant wait til i earn the respect of the blog managers for my contribution and ideas even tho they show differant goals and purpose they should be allowed as an opinion that sheds differing views. I am amazed at the perspectives and charges of differing views. I enjoy differant perspectives and directives for ones beliefs and the intensity of the responses and answer the calls of the oposition
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