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UPDATED: Uh-oh, another bump in Obama's approval rating; that's not a story the Beltway press wants to tell  

December 22, 2009 10:34 am ET by Eric Boehlert

You know the drill. Inside the Beltway, only polling trends that show Obama's popularity declining are considered newsy and important and worthy of trend stories. Polls that show Obama gaining support? Not so much.

In other words, good news is no news.

And that's why you haven't heard much about the latest CNN poll that has Obama's approval rating spiking six points in just the last two weeks. Heck, even CNN didn't think that was the news hook for the polling data, which is why in its online write-up, CNN didn't mention Obama's approval bump until two-thirds through the article.

Question: If CNN's poll, on the eve of controversial health care reform passing, showed that Obama's approval rating had dropped six points since early December, do you think that would qualify as 'news'?

Yeah, me too.

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    • Author by DellDolly (December 22, 2009 10:49 am ET)
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      I predict, and I hope, that his numbers continue to improve once the health care bill passes in the Senate and then the Conference Committee does their work.

      Keeping my fingers crossed that they can find a compromise that enough people can vote for.

      Being a Democratic leader is like herding cats. And I don't think another President has faced the same polling problem that Obama faces. Even when Bush was making it clear that he was a really incompetent leader, he still had the support of the core Republicans. But Obama has (hopefully, just temporarily) lost some of his core support when pollsters call Americans. He's not only lost some of his independent voters, and some moderate Republicans who were those fed up with Bush, but he's oozing support from far left Dems too. The very partisan Dems and Republicans don't typically 'leave' the fold.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (December 22, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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        I've been a democrat since 1972, so I've seen a lot of what happens under dem and repub administrations. I've been trying to get the dems I come into contact with online to see that if, at this point in Obama's administration they want to take their balls and go home, it'll be a huge mistake, and they will be saying President Palin in 2012. I'm hoping that they will come to understand that if they think things in Congress, especially in the Senate, are bad now if they stay home from the polls, we'll have bigger problems. I saw it in 1980 when dems let themselves be swayed by the "liberal media" that Carter was a totally ineffective president and didn't support his run for a second term. That was the beginning of trickle-down economics which culminated in the economic meltdown of 2008-09.
        Call me stubborn, but I have no intention of giving seats in Congress to teabaggers, conservatives, or republicans voluntarily, as I believe they should have to fight like he!! for every seat they gain.
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        • Author by slowtyper (December 22, 2009 9:06 pm ET)
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          you've hit it exactly correct..except as i've seen it..1980 was the beginning of the end of the middle class..and the trashing of America..

          the fight to bring us back will not be won in a year..or by a single piece of legislature..i will take strong.. steady leadership..both from president Obama and the congress...if democrats make the mistake of 1980..we only have ourselves to blame..
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        • Author by bluestate69 (December 22, 2009 10:44 pm ET)
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          imagine if carter had won reelection. we wouldn't have had a huge deficit, and our social programs (for working poor families), would be a lot stronger. the media's popular opinion, is that the cold war would have dragged on longer under carter. the soviet union would have collapsed anyway. it was more about the soviet union than it was about reagan's policies. the rich won under reagan, and they won in a number of ways. they got the huge tax cuts, and they were victorious in cutting off funding for social programs. at the same time, corporate welfare skyrocketed under president reagan, especially in the form of money to the defense industry(to build weaponry that would be obsolete in 5 to 10 years).
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    • Author by mk3872 (December 22, 2009 10:55 am ET)
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      Well, the press can always rely on the old Republican standby Rasmussen who skews their polls to their own "secret sauce" based on voter intensity instead of just polling based on party ID.

      Today, Rasmussen claims Obama has a 56% disapproval rating!!
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      • Author by proudbeckfan (December 22, 2009 11:36 am ET)
           
        Rasmussen is the MOST accurate pollster there is.
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      • Author by proudbeckfan (December 22, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
           
        Rasmussen is the MOST accurate pollster hands down.
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      • Author by Brian in FL (December 22, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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        Exactly...

        The latest Rasmussen poll is the ONLY major poll showing Obama currently with a net negative approval. Of course, that lands it the top headline spot on the Drudge Report while Drudge does not mention all of the positive polls. Even Gallup has Obama with a net +5% bounce today (which is based on the average of the last 3 days, so it only includes one day of polling after the Senate health care vote).
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        • Author by mk3872 (December 22, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
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          Rasmussen is only counting what they feel are "likely voters".

          It's ridiculous.

          This is not a poll for a campaign. This is meant to gauge the country's feelings about the president.

          There's a reason why you'll find links to Rasmussen from Drudge ... It is Drudge-bait.
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          • Author by DellDolly (December 22, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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            Their polling of "likely voters" was the excuse they gave for not publishing Bush approval numbers in the last months he was in office.

            I had challenged them on the fact that they stopped doing it, and what seemed clear to me, that his numbers were tanking, were said to not be the reason for them not having that data readily available.

            But don't you know, after the inauguration, magically those final polling results were published by them - they had been gathering them all along, and simply had stopped publishing their daily tracking poll for Bush. So, they lied when they told me that there was no reason for them to have been collecting that info.

            That disappearing of Bush's approval numbers was the same time that they started with their bogus "Presidential Approval Index", which subtracted the strong negatives from the strong positives, ignoring the "fair" and "good" responses. They couldn't give Obama a high number, so they created this bogus measurement. If you look at Bush's "Index" number, he was like a -30.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (December 22, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
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        The best advice I could offer is to ignore most opinion polls.

        Daily tracking of opinion polls mean even less.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (December 22, 2009 11:19 am ET)
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      While this bill is not the ideal bill... it's certainly better than leaving the current disaster in place!

      Pre-existing conditions is a big one... but I fear that the private (very little) insurance will simply find every possible way to NOT pay for badly needed treatment except for those too poor to pay (meaning the gov't pays) and doing all they can to make a profit on the pain, suffering, and likely death of people!

      I'm not a fan of this bill, to be sure... but it is not too late to still put in he lowering of Medicare age to 55 or even 50 or even open in up to everyone as another potential insurance option? (which would be the best option!)

      As for Obama's poll numbers going up or down...

      If Obama wants them to hover around 75% or more and guarantee re-election in 2012... all he has to do is govern like the Socialist, Communist, Marxist, leftist, pinko liberal that the crazy out-of-control sleazy right-wing is accusing him of being now!
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      • Author by nerzog (December 22, 2009 11:29 am ET)
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        I think what may happen is that they'll steer the undesirables into "Health Savings Accounts", which amount to little more than major medical policies. I have one myself; the premiums are relatively low, but it has a $6,000 deductible before it pays for anything. Not a bad deal for the insurance company.

        But, it's better than nothing.
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (December 22, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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          I keep hearing about some "high risk" pool for people with pre-existing conditions. What ever happened to insurance being a way to average the cost over a large number of people?

          I paid into insurance pools for years and took very little out.
          Now I have developed a chronic condition that tends to be very expensive. Does that mean that I will have to pay extra, now that I am actually using the insurance?
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          • Author by steeve (December 22, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
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            Show me an individual person who got more out of insurance than they themselves put in, and I'll show you an insurance executive who didn't do their job.
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            • Author by rumpleteasermom (December 22, 2009 8:47 pm ET)
                 
              As I write this from the hospital after a minor (for me) surgery, I can honestly answer ME!

              But I still think we need insurance reform and some health CARE reform (two different things). The insurance reform we need is to take the obscene profits out of it. If insurance companies use 90% of the premiums they collect to pay for medical treatment, things would be vastly better.

              We also need some more complicated reforms in our health care delivery system, but those are problems for another day.
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        • Author by Janeyz (December 22, 2009 9:07 pm ET)
             
          Obama should have done "Medicare for All", as Dr. Dean has suggested. Then I would have respected him.

          As is, it's a terrible bill and it is a terrible shame because it wasted a once in a lifetime opportunity to get it right.
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    • Author by nerzog (December 22, 2009 11:31 am ET)
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      Well, this poll is news to me. I watched a good portion of Morning Joe, and they didn't mention it, at least while I was watching. They did, however, spend a lot of time on Michael Steele's dumba$$ remark about "giving the finger" to the American People. Mika agreed with him, by the way.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 22, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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        The media spends a lot of time looking at Obama's numbers hovering around 50%, where any bump above that is ignored, and a dip below it is always called "plummetting".

        Obama may never have the approval ratings that Bush had immediately after 9/11. It was a time when Americans were feeling very united, and wanted to support their country, and their president. Reaching those kind of numbers relies on having reasonable people on the other side of the political aisle, something the Dems just don't have lately.
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        • Author by MickD (December 22, 2009 3:43 pm ET)
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          The obsession with polls, either way, is the nancy part of the "journalism."
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    • Author by jeff191 (December 22, 2009 11:32 am ET)
         
      I have noticed lately that some ultra conservative friends of mine are starting to smirk when they mention what they saw on Fox. one lady who 5 years ago swore that Fox was the only unbiased news channel now says that Hannity, OREILLY etc cant be taken seriously, and she wont even watch Glenn Beck, she thinks its demeaning, akin to watch Jerry Springer. So maybe the right wing media have overplayed their hand, maybe some of the people who supported them before have started to tire of their act.Americans , like people everywhere can get all riled up when someone plays on their fears and insecurities. but in the long run nobody wants to be on the side of bullies. people see the massive unfairness of the Republican and media smear campaign against Obama and they start to empathize with him. Then they start to see that hes done a decent job in the face of a lot of adversity and his numbers start to rise.
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    • Author by jeff191 (December 22, 2009 11:33 am ET)
         
      I have noticed lately that some ultra conservative friends of mine are starting to smirk when they mention what they saw on Fox. one lady who 5 years ago swore that Fox was the only unbiased news channel now says that Hannity, OREILLY etc cant be taken seriously, and she wont even watch Glenn Beck, she thinks its demeaning, akin to watch Jerry Springer. So maybe the right wing media have overplayed their hand, maybe some of the people who supported them before have started to tire of their act.Americans , like people everywhere can get all riled up when someone plays on their fears and insecurities. but in the long run nobody wants to be on the side of bullies. people see the massive unfairness of the Republican and media smear campaign against Obama and they start to empathize with him. Then they start to see that hes done a decent job in the face of a lot of adversity and his numbers start to rise.
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    • Author by Clearbrook (December 22, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
         
      Really...

      Ok. CNN Poll numbers were going up leading to the vote. It could be positive for the Health Care bill. But I just checked both Rasmussen (the most accurate predictor of Obamas win last November) and Gallup (not exactly a right-wing mouthpiece) and both are showing a *drop* after the vote went through. Could it be that your spin was wrong? Could it be that majority of Americans which want ObamaCare Dead were hopeful that by staying out of the Picture, Obama might help this monstrosity to die? Really, your depiction that this was not covered was bull. I saw at least three other news feeds that were gushing over this same trend and saying "Glory, Glory, Glory -- Here Comes the Messiah Riding in on a Donkey!!!" Of Course they were Left wing mouthpieces like the New York Times, etc, with just as much distortion as CNN has. The CNN poll doesn't carry the credibility that Rasmussen earned by being *accurate* mk3782. So if their "secret sauce" is what keeps it accurate, I'll take that instead of your brand of Koolaide...

      Just remember history. They nailed that previous "Messiah" to a cross soon afterwards. The public is fickle. And Obama may or may not be doomed. But this little bump is really not that important. The long trend is what he (and any Democrat hoping for a ride on his coat-tails in 2010 elections) should be worrying about...

      ;'{P~~~
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    • Author by Janeyz (December 22, 2009 8:30 pm ET)
         
      I voted for Obama, and unfortunately he's a huge disappointment.

      Of course, he's going to try to sell this bill like it's a huge success and pretend all his campaign promises are in it. But it's pretty evident he sold out.

      As soon as he got power, he became completely submissive to the insurance companies... he gave up everything we fought for and sold out 30 million people to an unfair mandate that has little cost control (a mandate he is on the record as being against!!!) He's putting 30 million plus people into the hands of the corrupt insurance industry that will always game the system.

      The Truth: His real fear is not getting their contributions for 2012. I for one won't be voting for him, I've lost faith and his words ring hollow now. They were always hollow, but I just wanted to believe. I'm very sorry I did.
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    • Author by bluestate69 (December 22, 2009 11:02 pm ET)
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      the news media love conventional wisdom. they like "trends" and "predictability". obama's win in 2008 was a surprise to the news media. they expected obama to win, but not win in indiana and north carolina. what they saw was a popular figure (in obama) the was going to transform the country. obama was the "first" in a lot of ways, other than the first black president. when you have a "first", you have a narrative that is yet to be written. so what did the media do? they went back to the old narrative of 1994. a better story for the media is an "unpopular" obama, and a "rebirth" of the right (fright) wing in america.
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    • Author by Riperooo (December 23, 2009 12:36 am ET)
         
      This is a joke, right? A mainstream media that has been breathlessly fawning over Obama for 2 years is supposedly more interested in reporting falling approval ratings than rising ones? News flash: the majority of the public doesn't want trillion dollar spending or the lefty version of healthcare "reform" now in front of us. That's why Obama's numbers are dropping.
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    • Author by p287000 (December 23, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
         
      Carter - did you people even live through that time. Carter had all he needed and what exactly did he do ? Oh yeah signed a peace agreement in the middle east , and boy that worked. Remember 18% home loans and long gas lines and oh yes the Iran Hostages . A wrecked helicopter.
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    • Author by Janeyz (December 24, 2009 1:49 am ET)
         
      There's no use in being in denial. Obama's poll numbers are down because independents and liberals are not happy that his actions don't match his rhetoric. Selling out 30 million folks to a mandate and putting them into a bureaucratic nightmare is not the change liberals like me were looking for. We wanted a single payer system that offers universal health care, or at the least, a public option. Obama has flailed on those options, and he instead gave the insurance companies their best Christmas present ever. This is sad but true.
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