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Religious freedom, Fox News style

January 03, 2010 11:56 am ET by Jamison Foser

Fox's Brit Hume says Tiger Woods' faith is inadequate, urges him to become a Christian:

"The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith," said Hume. "He is said to be a Buddhist. I don't think that faith offers the kind of redemption and forgiveness offered by the Christian faith. My message to Tiger is, 'Tiger turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world."

If this wasn't Fox News, I'd take "Tomorrow, 2 pm" in the when-will-Hume-apologize pool.  But it is Fox, so "the Fifth of Never" seems like a safer choice.

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    • Author by wookie (January 03, 2010 12:10 pm ET)
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      Fox tolerates both religions. Catholic and Protestant.
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      • Author by Bad News (January 03, 2010 12:30 pm ET)
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        The Extreme Right & Fox News.
        The True Believers who believe only they can walk in God's Shoes.
        If you don't believe exactly as they believe, then to them you're already Dead.
        Brit Hume is just the Symptom, News Corp. is the Disease who uses to Heartland to keep itself Fed.

        Speak truth to power.


        Mr. News
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        • Author by Bad News (January 03, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
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          Who uses "the" Heartland to keep itself Fed.

          Sorry for the transposed word.


          Mr. News
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        • Author by DellDolly (January 03, 2010 3:31 pm ET)
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          Your post is NOT a reply to what 'wookie' said.

          Stop making troll posts that are attached as replies but aren't actually replies at all! It's unfair to the other posters who follow patterns of not simply getting their posts up to the top of the pile.
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 03, 2010 3:54 pm ET)
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            To say nothing of writing poetry that would make a Vogon wince.
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (January 03, 2010 4:42 pm ET)
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            Gosh DD, are you the comment police now?

            If you have an issue with a post, use the abuse link.
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            • Author by steeve (January 03, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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              I'd imagine the abuse link is much like a job as a TV pundit.

              Anything that's offensive is gone. Anything that's manifestly unskilled, spectacularly wrong, or skullcrushingly inane stays.
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              • Author by bilbo_dies (January 03, 2010 6:44 pm ET)
                   
                Not to drag it through the mud but; you're saying that no one monitors why someone clicked the abuse link, it is just automatically deleted?
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                • Author by steeve (January 03, 2010 7:20 pm ET)
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                  No, I presume it's automatically not deleted unless it triggers MM's "offensive comment" alarm. Just like a big media pundit is never, ever penalized unless they make an offensive comment.
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            • Author by DellDolly (January 04, 2010 12:17 am ET)
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              I do that TOO. But to get the message through to the original poster, I occasionally let him know why he gets thumbs down. Too bad you think that it's not okay for people to express their opinion here.

              If YOU have an issue with my post, Bilbo_dies, use the 'report abuse' link, why don't ya? Or don't you see the irony in your post? Somehow it's okay for you to express your opinion about MY post, but it's not okay for me to do the same for someone else's post?

              And if you don't see the same problems that I do with troll posts and the useless poetry and self-promotion that the poster "Bad News" contributes, then you can feel free to give him thumbs up and cheer him on. And I will continue to express my opinion.
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              • Author by bintx (January 04, 2010 8:06 am ET)
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                You cite your right to express your opinion here, yet, you repeatedly deride people who share that exact same right if they do not follow YOUR very narrow rules of proper blog decorum. Why not stop telling everybody else what to post and to whom they should or should not respond? You are the one who derails discussion with your scolding posts. Just let EVERYONE post their opinions . . . address those which appeal to you and ignore those which do not. Will make life SO much easier for you and everyone else on the thread. Just a friendly suggestion.
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                • Author by DellDolly (January 04, 2010 10:11 am ET)
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                  Actually, I don't do what you claim.

                  And when I decide that I need your advice on how to run my life, as I've told you before, I'll be sure to let you know.

                  And no, I won't just let everyone post their opinions unencumbered if I believe that they are trying to make troll posts. I 100% disagree that it's beneficial to everyone to allow troll posts and trolls go unchallenged.

                  I don't have "narrow rules of proper blog decorum", much less "very narrow" rules. I follow very standard protocols in that respect.
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                  • Author by betogrande (January 04, 2010 2:43 pm ET)
                       
                    DellDolly, yes you do. We are here to share opinions and you would be well served to remember that others' opinions are not wrong just because they differ from yours. PLEASE follow bintx's advice above.
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                  • Author by rrastro (January 04, 2010 11:11 pm ET)
                       
                    tis true...one easy rule...bow to dolly and agree
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      • Author by bintx (January 04, 2010 8:01 am ET)
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        Fox tolerates only SOME Protestants. Non-fundamentalist Protestants [the overwhelming majority of Christianity] is not acknowledged by Fox.
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    • Author by tiredofit10 (January 03, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
         
      The principles this country were founded on is under assault. If we let it succeed it will be our own damn fault
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    • Author by steeve (January 03, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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      Lets bypass the offensiveness of this and behold Hume with his pants down.

      People who are actually religious realize that religions make assertions of fact that are either correct or incorrect. They hope to follow the one that is correct in real life, regardless of its "ingredients".

      People who fake religion for the rubes don't have the slightest interest in what is real. All that's left for them is the "ingredients".

      The story here shouldn't be that Fox News is biased for Christianity. It should be that Fox News doesn't care a bit about Christianity and is peeing all over it.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 03, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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        "The story here shouldn't be that Fox News is biased for Christianity. It should be that Fox News doesn't care a bit about Christianity and is peeing all over it."

        As usual.
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    • Author by New Frontier (January 03, 2010 1:30 pm ET)
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      Imagine the host of a major news program who is Asian (difficult to imagine in itself) and a Buddhist, telling a Christian that the way to become a great example to the world is to convert to Buddhism.

      Think there'd be any repercussions??
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      • Author by GreenLantern (January 03, 2010 3:10 pm ET)
           
        Imagine the host of a major news program who is Asian (difficult to imagine in itself) and a Buddhist, telling a Christian that the way to become a great example to the world is to convert to Buddhism.

        Think there'd be any repercussions??


        As a practicing Christian, your example above is so true and one of the biggest problems for real Christians in todays media society! Instead of being an example to follow, they are example of whats wrong with Christians. Sad!
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      • Author by News Corpse (January 03, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
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        Repercussions? For Fox?

        C'mon, they already have a show hosted by the Rev. Huckabee. And then there is the holy Gospel According to Beck.

        [http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2779/4104042788_40147b3e60.jpg]

        It's clear what path they're on.
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    • Author by spooky3 (January 03, 2010 3:38 pm ET)
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      And as evidence that Hume is right, just look at all those "Christian great examples" such as Ensign, Sanford, Foley, convicted child-abuser priests, etc.
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    • Author by jgibson349687 (January 03, 2010 3:49 pm ET)
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      Brit Hume, proselytizing belongs on CBN, TBN, or EWTN, not Fox.
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      • Author by rrastro (January 03, 2010 7:35 pm ET)
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        why not?
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (January 03, 2010 7:54 pm ET)
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          Because overt religious proselytizing should be kept in dedicated religious programming. It's irresponsible for a serious news channel to overtly support a particular religious sect, therefore Fox News should not ... um, ... er, ... I did say "serious news channel," didn't I? Ok, maybe it is ok for Fox since they don't qualify.
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        • Author by leftofwhat (January 03, 2010 10:13 pm ET)
             
          Separation of state and rational thought.
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        • Author by DellDolly (January 04, 2010 12:19 am ET)
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          Legitimate news organizations don't allow religious proselytizing.
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          • Author by j238 (January 04, 2010 11:02 am ET)
               
            Agree. Unfortunately, no one calls out ABC, when it happens on Good Morning America.
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        • Author by pilotx (January 04, 2010 3:00 am ET)
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          Because they are assuming two things 1. their religion is the only correct one and 2. everyone watching the show agrees with them. Guess they don't care about offending Buddhists.
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        • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 9:59 am ET)
             
          why not?
          You'd feel exactly the same about an Arab-American news anchor urging Christians to make better examples of themselves by converting to Islam, we're sure of that.
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          • Author by rrastro (January 04, 2010 11:13 pm ET)
               
            yes since moslems are called to spread the good news of islam. I dont slam the dooe on jehovah's witnesses and as long as bombs are NOT involved am pleased to see faithful people anywhere.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 04, 2010 9:59 am ET)
             
          Because they claim to be a "Fair and Balanced News Network"... but we all know that's a joke, right?
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (January 03, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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      That is an unjustified religious conceit on Hume's part, pure and simple.
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (January 03, 2010 4:19 pm ET)
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      Maybe Hume should think of becoming a Buddhist:

      Redemption:

      Each Buddha and Bodhisattwa is a redeemer. I notice here Ti-tsang-wang p‘u-sa. He is called Yeu-ming-kiau-chu, "Teacher of the unseen world." Full of benevolence and grace towards mankind, he opens a path for self-reformation and pardon of sins.
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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (January 03, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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        Bart Simpson:

        "Christmas is a time when people of all religions come together to worship Jesus Christ."
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 03, 2010 4:44 pm ET)
             
          Subtle




          (or not)
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 03, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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            These sort of remarks, like Hume's idiocy here, are funny to me, I guess because I'm not religious at all. But I always feel a sympathetic cringe for the real, actual decent Christians( or whoever's religion is being represented by a particular loudmouth)in response to these pinheads.
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    • Author by jeff191 (January 03, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
         
      brit please turn to AA OR NA and try to make a total recovery for yourself, because you got to be trippin with this crap
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    • Author by highlyunlikely (January 03, 2010 7:05 pm ET)
         
      ironically, Hume's facial expression is absolutely soulless.
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    • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (January 03, 2010 8:43 pm ET)
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      How long did it take Ted Haggerts (sp) church to forgive him for being gay and then not being gay? Did anyone ever forgive Swaggert for his tears and the prostitute? Or Jim Baker? And how about the gang over at c-street? D. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Limbaugh....the list of self proclaimed christians who commit "sin" after "sin" is daunting, and yet absolution is their way out....seems to me this is an age old problem, perhaps B.C. ;)
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    • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (January 04, 2010 9:28 am ET)
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      Not surprisingly,, MMFA ignorantly finds 'intolerance' in Hume's remarks.
      Not considering that the ideas of redemption, forgiveness and restoration are Christian doctrines, and are not possible in the Buddhist religion/philosophy, making Hume's assessment accurate.
      Here's a quote: "Countless rebirths lie ahead, both good and bad. The effects of karma (actions) are inevitable, and in previous lifetimes we have accumulated negative karma which will inevitably have its fruition in this or future lives. Just as someone witnessed by police in a criminal act will eventually be caught and punished, so we too must face the consequences of faulty actions we have committed in the past, there is no way to be at ease; those actions are irreversible; we must eventually undergo their effects."
      His Holiness the Dalai Lama, from 'Kindness, Clarity and Insight' (emphasis mine)
      So this is just another example of MMFA's ignorant religious bigotry.
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      • Author by Mr Blifil (January 04, 2010 9:37 am ET)
           
        Maybe it's just me but I always hear a lot about how there's no redemption until one accepts Christ in one's heart, which involves renunciation of sin, which is exactly the advice the Dalai Lama offers. I don't think your theological argument means what you think it means.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 04, 2010 10:09 am ET)
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        Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal
        with the intent of throwing it at someone else;
        you are the one getting burned.
        --Buddha


        Anger will never disappear so long as thoughts of resentment
        are cherished in the mind. Anger will disappear just as soon
        as thoughts of resentment are forgotten.
        --Buddha
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    • Author by vipervisor766 (January 04, 2010 12:08 pm ET)
         
      Feed yourself to a tiger Brit. That would be a great example to the world.
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    • Author by Joe Truth (January 04, 2010 3:52 pm ET)
         
      Fox is as any other television show. A revenue generating machine. It is sad that people actually think they are reporting reality and facts... The news is contrived and spun to fit the net work owners agenda and beliefs. This is not brain surgery here people. The television programs you watch are there to fill time between commercials. That is how the money is generated by TV ADDS! I mean do people really watch CNN or FOX and really believe that garbage and propaganda? The real question I have is why do people get so emotionally invested in these politicians? They are nothing special as far as humans go. We should stop re-electing the same garbage. Then maybe the results would change.
      Garbage in, garbage out. It is that simple.
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