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Daily Caller columnist defends Robertson's remarks about Haiti: "The Haitian pact with the devil is historical fact"

January 20, 2010 4:44 pm ET by Media Matters staff

From Tommy De Seno's January 19 column on The Daily Caller:

Last week political correctness tried to kill history. No one from the media tried to stop the murder. Instead, most media outlets became willing accomplices to the crime.

When Pat Robertson said the Haitian slave rebels made a pact with the devil to throw off their French enslavers 200 years ago, media liberals drooled, believing they had caught a religious person saying something awful.

Of course there's one fact media liberals left out of their reports about Pat Robertson's statement: That it was, you know, true.

How can citing a historical fact possibly make someone like Robertson a bad guy? Is he supposed to ignore the history that happened? Cover it up? Pretend to change it?

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Robertson didn't say God caused an earthquake. He said Haiti is "cursed," but not who is responsible for the curse.

Yet on NBC's Good Morning America, Claire Shipman and George Stephanopolous tag-teamed Robertson on a piece where they jumped right to the conclusion that Robertson alleged the earthquake was God taking revenge on Haiti for the 200 year old devil pact (that pact, by the way, expired in 1991).

The Haitian pact with the devil is historical fact. Whether there is a curse on Haiti because of the pact is a matter of religious interpretation. Why is the media pretending to be surprised that Robertson, a religious leader, speaking on a religious show, would offer a religious analysis?

Feel free to religiously disagree with Robertson's analysis, but let's not pretend his facts were historically inaccurate because they weren't.

Previously:

Robertson's "true story": Haiti "swore a pact to the devil" to get "free from the French" and "ever since, they have been cursed"

Rose Tennent defends Robertson's claim that Haiti "swore a pact to the devil": "Do you know that they didn't?"

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    • Author by magnolialover (January 20, 2010 4:48 pm ET)
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      The devil isn't real, that's the entire problem with this.
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    • Author by watershed (January 20, 2010 4:51 pm ET)
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      This kind of commentary is becoming WAY too common in America.
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (January 20, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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      What does this nitwit do?

      Sit around watching reruns of the 700 Club, so that now his brain has completely ceased to function?





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    • Author by shaggles (January 20, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
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      Even if the Haitians thought they made a pact with the Devil the Devil would still be fiction. So who's making all these bad things happen to them?
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 20, 2010 5:06 pm ET)
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        I think it's more likely plate tectonics in this case.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 20, 2010 5:34 pm ET)
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          This is hilarious. When this Robertson item first came up at this site, there were a few wingnuts demanding for people to point out where the statement wasn't true. I thought they were just being deliberately annoying trolls, but I may have been wrong.

          These are people who recognize a contract with a fictional party as a historical fact.

          I'm going to type up my contract with Daily Caller CEO Mr. Mythical P. Nonexistent, wherein he passes on ownership of the entire organization, including the bank accounts, to me, Col. Harlan Sanders, Esq. I hope Mr. DeSeno likes the clause that makes him my butler for life.
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    • Author by Gaspar (January 20, 2010 5:34 pm ET)
         
      I have studied history all of my life. I have almost 200 volumes on history on my book shelves at work and at home. I have NEVER heard of such a pact. I have attempted to find any reference to it out side of this story and been unable to find a single reference.

      Could you please point me to any evidence, citation or factual account of this event? Can you tell me who (as in the specific individuals) made this pact? Do you have the wording of this pact?

      The brief details given would say that in 1791 a 200 year pact was made. Well that would have meant that it would have expired in 1991, 19 years ago.

      To sum it up, it is accused that unknown persons two centuries ago made a pact that expired two decades ago. Because of this pact many people have been injured and killed. The casualties include possible decadents of those pact makers (possible because we don't know who they were) along with many innocent persons who have immigrated to Haiti or were visiting Haiti. Note that many of the clergy were injured as well.

      This entire scene is contrary to the teachings of Jesus. It is contrary to any known history. It is repugnant to human decency to tell victims who have lost there parents, children, siblings and friends that it is there fault because some person allegedly did something 200 years before you were born.

      If you disagree, if you believe this is factual, please PRESENT THE FACTS. Please produce any evidence what so ever that this event took place. Please cite one source that isn't "I heard someone else say it" or "it is common knowledge that this happens".

      This is why I love living in a free democracy. Fallacy withers in the light of day and the truth speaks for it self.
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    • Author by DellDolly (January 20, 2010 6:09 pm ET)
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      IF it were true* that more than 200 years ago, some people actually "made a pact with the Devil", then THOSE PEOPLE would be condemned forever.

      A NATION of people can't make a pact with the devil. And the sins of people 200 years ago are not going to continued to be asssessed upon the generations that are alive today.

      It's a ridiculous assertion that the Haitian people today are being punished for the sins of people 206 years ago.

      *I don't believe that the people of Haiti MADE a pact with the Devil just because they sacrificed an animal and prayed to the gods they worshipped to be released from slavery.

      MY God doesn't treat people that way.
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      • Author by getit (January 21, 2010 10:39 am ET)
           
        You are right in that statement ! What everyone seems to be misssing is that God does not bring about all of this .When Satan wins a Soul he does not give them room service and airconditioning . You might enjoy his deal for a short while ,but eventually you will be in Hell.I don't know what happened there and neither does anyone else for sure . But I am sure of one thing ,,It is way past time for us to Bless God. So lets just help these poor people in Gods name .
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    • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (January 21, 2010 12:04 am ET)
         
      The "Bois Caiman Ceremony" is folklore, deeply imbedded in contemporary Haitian culture and somewhat entangled in its politics. Like America's "Midnight Ride of Paul Revere", and both stories are riddled with mythology.

      There are many versions of it on record as the organizing event that triggered the first wave of the slave revolt. There is historical controversy over the vodou ritual being a part of it, with many, many versions of who was there, and who did what, etc. There is even some controversy that the "meeting" ever took place at all. (some historical versions mention two meetings that may be conflated into a single meeting) At least one version includes some sort of "pact with the devil".
      Start to get the picture?

      Remember Dana Carvey's Church Lady? "Could it be......SATAN?"

      Pat Robertson's embarrassing distraction is patently ridiculous on several levels already mentioned. Its importance, or lack thereof depends on different belief systems anyway.
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      • Author by getit (January 21, 2010 8:47 pm ET)
           
        Exactly ,,,who is to say who has the correct beleif system? Do you? Do I ? does anyone know for sure? I feel this ,,that Pat Robertson spoke from his beleif system ,,and who are we to say that he is anything but sincere ? I know only that my God does not hurt his followers ,,,he loves them ! But,, again this is my beleif system.. The ability to choose between Heaven and Hell are the things that set our destiny , was there a deal made with the Devil? History says there was,,,or at least the history we have ...Pat did not just make this up while having his coffee did he ? I do agree with one thing you stated ,,history like many other things are only to be translated by what we beleive,,or feel ,,and I beleive that good and evil are very real !! and Haiti is dealing with way too much evil ! so let us all just help these poor folks . I beleive that this is all Pat was saying.......that is my beleif system. Bless him for caring ..it matters.
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