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Fox on company's decison to stop inscribing Bible verses on military rifle scopes: "The Bible Loses"

January 22, 2010 8:47 am ET by Media Matters staff

From the January 22 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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From a January 21 Army Times article:

A company under fire for etching biblical references on rifle scopes used by the U.S. military said Thursday it will stop the practice, and offered to provide modification kits to the Pentagon to enable their removal on existing optics.

Michigan-based Trijicon Inc. made the announcement in a statement released by Levick Strategic Communications, a Washington, D.C.-based firm that specializes in crisis management.

"Trijicon has proudly served the U.S. military for more than two decades, and our decision to offer to voluntarily remove these references is both prudent and appropriate," Trijicon president Stephen Bindon said in a statement. "We want to thank the Department of Defense for the opportunity to work with them and will move as quickly as possible to provide the modification kits for deployment overseas."

Trijicon also said it will remove the inscriptions from all products it has made for the military, but not yet shipped, and that it will provide foreign military services that purchased Trijicon products the same options.

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    • Author by nerzog (January 22, 2010 8:52 am ET)
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      And the Constitution wins.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 22, 2010 8:55 am ET)
         
      "...our decision to offer to voluntarily remove these references is both prudent and appropriate"

      Hey, FOX, even the manufacturer, Trijicon, says it's appropriate to remove the Bible inscriptions.

      Once again, though, FOX will attempt to perpetuate the myth that Christians are persecuted and discriminated against in this country.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 22, 2010 8:56 am ET)
         
      Very good. Thanks to Rachel and ABC News for running the story. They may have been doing this for decades, but they shouldn't have been. I am glad they are trying to fix it. It is not appropriate to put Bible verses on a weapon. It isn't appropriate to sell these Christianized weapons to the Government, which is Constitutionally prohibited from establishing a religion. But, lastly, it is insulting to sell these weapons to non-Christian militaries.
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 9:00 am ET)
         
      First, we need to understand that they weren't actually inscribing the bible verse on the scope but rather; were inscribing the biblical referance to the verse. (8:12)

      Second, we also need to understand that when fighting a war against religious extremeists you don't need to give them a reason to claim that the U.S. is fighting a war against Islam.


      Personally, I didn't have an issue with the reference inscribed on the scope per se. I do believe that for a piece of equipment that only has military usage that it was out of place. If they want to use it on equipment sold to civilians that is a different matter.
      Considering this was a night vision scope the bible verse:
      "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." is kind of appropriate, in a way.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (January 22, 2010 9:06 am ET)
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        "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." is kind of appropriate, in a way.

        Somehow I don't think that quote from scripture can in any way be applied to illuminating a human target for a sniper.
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 9:45 am ET)
             
          Yeah, I know. the irony of the verse and the equipment was not lost on me. That is one of the reasons I thought it didn't fit on military equipment and, depending on your point of view, wouldn't fit on civilian gear either.
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      • Author by New Frontier (January 22, 2010 9:21 am ET)
           
        "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." is kind of appropriate, in a way.
        What happens when the enemy has the exact same words on his weapon and is coming up behind you?
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      • Author by worrierking (January 22, 2010 9:22 am ET)
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        Sorry, I can't ever remember disagreeing with you before , but mixing God with warfare is sacrilegious. There is enough hatred already and this only adds fuel to the fire. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a spiritual person or a believer necessarily.

        It's another way of saying that God is on our side. And when we choose to kill each other, he is not.

        Regardless of what it says, soldiers at war always walk in darkness. The only light for them is peace.
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        • Author by canaanxing9025 (January 22, 2010 9:47 am ET)
             
          worrierking:

          Perfectly articulated. Kudos.
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 9:48 am ET)
             
          Read closer, I guess. I thought I said it was not appropriate on military equipment. Not even considering the whole seperation of church and state, we don't need anything, in our military, that might indicate that we are at "war" with anyone based on religious reasons.
          Just the fact of what this region of the world has lived through, such as the crusades, should tell us not to cross that line.



          Of course, W did say he talked to god.
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    • Author by rtejon (January 22, 2010 9:16 am ET)
         
      Hate to break it to these folks, but if they would take the time to look at Afghanistan's current constitution, they'll see that it's just one more new Islamic republic we've helped create in the past decade. I would have expected them to at least remember the existing law about desecrating any copy of the Qu'ran.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (January 22, 2010 9:31 am ET)
         
      I really don't think the soldiers care - as long as it does its job, they like it.
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    • Author by DellDolly (January 22, 2010 11:17 am ET)
         
      Has MMFA mentioned that the company said that they understood how it might be bad to have bible verses being used in what the enemy is calling a war against Islam?

      Or that Steve Doocy quoted his wife as saying that SINCE Al Qaeda will say Allah Akbar before fighting us that it's okay for US to do that too? Like we don't have an amendment to our Constitition that says that we should keep any religious support out of our gov't?
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    • Author by raygun (January 22, 2010 11:35 am ET)
         
      I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." is kind of appropriate, in a way.


      How about this bible verse...

      "...the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." (Mark 12:28-31)
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