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Here's another weather-related headline Drudge wouldn't touch

January 22, 2010 2:53 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

It was from the Toronto Star and was for an article about the upcoming Winter Olympics:

Warm, wet weather causes shutdown of Cypress Mountain: Officials are hoping to preserve snowboarding and freestyle courses

Yep, there's no way Drudge would ever highlight a news article about how unseasonably warm it is in Canada because that would run counter to the conservative, anti-reason argument that becomes it sometimes gets cold in the winter, that means climate change doesn't exist.

FYI, from the Star [emphasis added]:

Olympic officials who have been dreaming of a white Winter Games are instead being met with a brown, muddy nightmare as unseasonably warm weather, heavy rain, and lack of snow forced them to close the mountain where next month's snowboarding and freestyle skiing events will be held.

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    • Author by twseattle (January 22, 2010 3:10 pm ET)
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      Yup, possibly the warmest January on record. But Why look at the facts.
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      • Author by marionetta (January 22, 2010 4:40 pm ET)
           
        Two things:

        It is not wet here. It hasn't rained for a number of days. It is sunny.
        And this kind of weather is not that unusual in Vancouver (we're not Seattle, BTW).

        That's why some of us always thought it was a joke to have a Winter Olympics up here in February.

        I've suntanned on my patio in February some years.
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      • Author by marionetta (January 22, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
           
        Latest weather forecast is for snow on the 1st and 2nd of February. In Vancouver. Now, that's unusual.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (January 22, 2010 3:14 pm ET)
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      And that is after 2009, tied for second as warmest year on record.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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        Oh, you guys.

        Why do you keep pulling facts out or your hats, when that isn't what the current meme is about.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (January 22, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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          You're right, I shouldn't be using facts.

          Brrr, it's winter now. That means the globe can't be warming.

          Is that better?
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          • Author by all your eyes (January 22, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
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            Where are the global cooling trolls? Shouldn't they be here telling us the sky isn't really blue? That NASA's satellite measurements are somehow fudged?
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    • Author by mustardman (January 22, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
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      Cypress Mtn. is a giant ball of mud right now. I can't say I didn't see it coming. Every year the ski season gets shorter. The local Vancouver hills are always a crap shoot but it has definitely gotten worse in my lifetime.

      http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/19077--no-snow-in-forecast-means-vanoc-goes-to-plan-c-at-cypress-mountain



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      • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 3:31 pm ET)
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        But; but; certain ski resorts in the west opened early because of record snow fall. Can't we cherry pick the data we want to use when we are trying to prove/disprove a point?
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (January 22, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
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          That one was especially funny. They act as though you can't have record snowfalls at the same time as above average temperatures. In Minnesota they often go together.
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        • Author by hoosier (January 22, 2010 3:49 pm ET)
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          Your scientists already did that, bilbo, when they told each other to hide the decline. Remember?

          Now you want to keep doing it?

          You sound like Ed Schultz when he says he'd have cheated to keep Scott Brown from winning.
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          • Author by The Ombudsman (January 22, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
               
            Sorry, but that whole bit has been debunked many times.
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
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            There we go.

            I knew if we waited long enough a troll would come out.
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            • Author by John Paradox (January 22, 2010 6:45 pm ET)
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              I knew if we waited long enough a troll would come out.

              On today's edition of Trolling For Trolls...
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (January 22, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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            It's amazing that there are morons out there who still think that "hide the decline" actually referred to concealing a drop in temperatures.
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            • Author by ScienceBuff (January 22, 2010 4:09 pm ET)
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              To be fair, not all of them are morons. Some are just incredibly ignorant. And some are unabashed liars.
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              • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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                Partisanship knows no bounds. Be it politics or whatever.

                People will believe what they will, no matter what the truth.
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                • Author by bilbo_dies (January 22, 2010 4:28 pm ET)
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                  BTW Just to make the trolls feel better.

                  Just because it is now warmer than usual doesn't mean that it proves global warming. (obviously)
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              • Author by galileonardo (January 23, 2010 12:21 am ET)
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                ScienceBluff, what's amazing is that there are still morons out there who think that "hide the decline" actually doesn't refer to concealing a drop in temperatures. What do you think the tree-ring proxies reconstructions measure, ocean salinity?

                As I have thoroughly explained here and here, and too many other times, the defense for hiding the decline is, in the words of Kevin Trenberth, a travesty.

                What's amazing is that there are still morons out there defending the CRU crumbs and in denial about the reality of the decline, not only the "divergence" decline, but the decline in the AGW theory and its stranglehold on the science.

                The Church is losing its flock, at least the extreme branch of the AGW cultists. The impact of the CRU scandal cannot be contained and flat-Earthers like you will eventually become relics. That won't stop you from not going gently of course. What else would one expect from a member of a doomed cult?
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                • Author by ScienceBuff (January 23, 2010 9:29 am ET)
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                  Ah, yes, our leading denialist liar pulling out his old bag of tricks. Lot's of bluff and bluster, lots of links that don't actually support your claims (actually, you showed a little restraint this time. I've come to expect more of them), lots of bland insults and lots of broad, sweeping generalizations presented in a confident, authoritative manner.

                  You remind me so much of creationists, I could almost forget the actual topic. Years from now, you and your ilk will be dredging up those emails the way creationists still dredge up Piltdown Man, even though both are irrelevant to the actual science.

                  For the period for which that select batch of tree ring data indicates a decline, we know positively that there was not an actual decline in temperatures. Ergo, I am correct. And that makes you the moron/liar/ignoramus of which I spoke.

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        • Author by pete592 (January 22, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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          We had early openings on Mt. Hood this year, but the season quickly deteriorated. One resort in particular is scraping by on a weekends-only basis with a dismal 22-inch base.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 22, 2010 5:00 pm ET)
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        "Every year the ski season gets shorter."

        I was going to say 'But isn't this just more local weather rather than an indication of climate change?' until I got to your post. If the onset of spring is getting earlier each year that's a much better indication than an unusually warm January one particular year.
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        • Author by twseattle (January 22, 2010 7:19 pm ET)
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          True shaggles,
          My post really was only meant to reflect (relatively) local conditions. Been anticipating these (relatively) nearby games for a while. I love all that snowy-slidy-jumpy stuff and started thinking a few weeks ago how they are going to need it to cool down and snow. Bad luck with the El Nino and it's predictable effects. The link from Science Buff tells the bigger story, can't deny that.
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    • Author by snewkirk (January 22, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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      It's now obvious that the Toronto Star is part of the liberal media.

      *sarcasm
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (January 22, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
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      Lets play like the global warming deniers play.

      I live in the Northeast, and it is nearly 50 degrees. We have been in the mid forties for the last couple of days. During lunch today, I went out for a walk and saw kids playing basketball in shirt sleeves. I am looking out my window now, and most people are wearing just heavy sweaters, no hats, no gloves - it is that warm out. And for crying out loud, it is January!

      A nasty cold snap in December does not make for global cooling, and a few lucky warm days in January does not make for global warming.

      Climate change measures a thirty year trend. It is the climate stupid.

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