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With O'Keefe arrest, Breitbart develops newfound appreciation for "facts"

January 27, 2010 11:23 am ET by Simon Maloy

Not a good day for Andrew Breitbart.

As his hand-groomed protégé, undercover ACORN video auteur James O'Keefe, sat in a Louisiana police station under arrest for attempting to tamper with a U.S. senator's telephone system, Breitbart's media empire went into lockdown, issuing only a terse statement denying any knowledge of O'Keefe's activities. This morning, however, Breitbart broke the silence, posting a missive to BigGovernment.com announcing that he, Andrew Breitbart, was going to "[w]ait until the facts are in" before "jumping to conclusions" like Media Matters and everyone else in the media.

Imagine that -- Andrew Breitbart chastising the world for passing judgment before the facts are in.

Sort of like when Breitbart used O'Keefe's deceptively edited videos to issue broad condemnations of ACORN's willingness to aid in child prostitution, even though later investigations found that ACORN had done nothing to violate the law or eligibility for federal funding.

Or like when BigGovernment.com attacked the White House for playing host to ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis, only to find out later that it was a different Bertha Lewis.

Or like when Breitbart worked with a private detective who rooted through ACORN's trash, and then told the world that ACORN had conducted a "document dump" in advance of an investigation, even though the "documents" turned out to be mainly fliers and old newsletters.

Or how about when that same private detective, in the course of investigating the "document dump," posted a video on BigGovernment.com of "ACORN operatives clearly engaged in some kind of discussion - likely related to the activities of that evening." Some solid factual grounding there.

And there was the time that BigGovernment.com accused Obama of stealing his own Nobel Prize winnings, even though Obama hasn't received them yet.

And who can forget the "political statements" the Obamas made with their Maoist Christmas tree ornaments? Turns out those were decorated by local community groups, and the image of Mao on one of the ornaments was actually a reprint of Andy Warhol's paintings mocking the Chinese dictator.

Oh, and the time that Breitbart posted a video claiming that a group of community organizers were "praying" to Obama, and later had to walk it back because he didn't have any -- what's the word I'm looking for... ah yes, facts.

So by all means, Andrew, wait as long as you like before commenting on the alleged illegal activities of your employee and star pupil. Both you and he are still entitled to a fair hearing of the facts, even if you rarely extend that courtesy to others.

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    • Author by all your eyes (January 27, 2010 11:32 am ET)
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      Well done. Any apologists out there? Or are you all content to lurk silently, perhaps thumb-down a post or two on this one?
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      • Author by Good Creon (January 27, 2010 11:47 am ET)
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        I have noticed a lack of troll postings on all the recent O'Keefe topics. Reality finally hits home, I suppose.
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        • Author by RKAllen (January 27, 2010 11:52 am ET)
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          Fairliberal had been particularly vocal about ACORN for many months... but, mysteriously absent now.

          Its a shame. Of the many posters here, Fairliberal is one of the few I enjoy debating with, and the one I most wish to hear opinions from on this subject at the moment.
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          • Author by bintx (January 27, 2010 11:55 am ET)
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            Well, since O'Reilly has been silent on the issue, she has nothing to say. Most of her posts are just regurgitated O'Reilly rants.
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          • Author by open_mind (January 27, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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            To be fair, the conservative trolls are probably waiting for their betters in the movement to tell them what to think about the whole situation.
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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 27, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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              Yeah, I mentioned that yesterday. They all get mysteriously "busy" simultaneously. Look over some old ACORN-related threads, and notice how available they all were.

              Of course, most of the crazy lefty posters here saw right through O'Keefe from the beginning, and were called blind partisans for defending ACORN.

              It is 9:45 here on the left coast, meaning Boss Hogg has had almost an hour of hypnotic repetition and spinning to give them instructions.

              The only wingnut I've seen dumb enough to go out on short notice was Pat BUchanan last night on MSNBC. He seemed to be going with a dismissing of the crime because it was so incompetently executed.

              Basically "This is so silly, they weren't going to get any good information from this office !", backed up with a little "They must have had some information that Landrieu was up to something to have tried this".

              In other words, he's defending some some dimwitted bank robbers for breaking into a bank with very little money, but adding that they must have heard there was a lot of money in there, or they wouldn't have bothered.

              Hopefully, the Head Propagandists came up with something better on the overnight shift.
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            • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 27, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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              Many of them are upset about Palin's decision to go to Arizona and campaign for McShame, and about the fact that some of the religious fundamentalists are having second thoughts about Scott Brown. They claim to not have known that Brown voted for HCR in Massachusetts, and that he approves of civil unions for LGBTQ persons. They're also having to grapple with the issue of whether or not they need to modify their "purity test" when they meet up in Hawaii. Oh, and they're organizing to protest the 'bagger convention in TN next month and/or plan another non-profit venue during the same timespan.
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        • Author by leatherhelmet (January 27, 2010 7:50 pm ET)
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          If the guy broke the law, he should pay the price.

          (Unless of course he is a black panther intimidating voters, then he should be let off scott free).
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          • Author by all your eyes (January 27, 2010 8:12 pm ET)
               
            You get a thumbs up for being the first troll with the gumption to speak up. Frivolity aside, three cheers.
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          • Author by vysotsky (January 27, 2010 9:49 pm ET)
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            Thumbs up for entertainment value.

            Just out of curiosity, who here has ever claimed that a black panther intimidating voters in violation of the law should be let off scot-free?
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            • Author by mrhebert74 (January 27, 2010 11:24 pm ET)
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              I believe leatherhelmet is referring to Mr. Falsequivalence Strawman.
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      • Author by thaneb (January 27, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        Waiting for, "It was government entrapment/payback" or "O'Keefe was a left wing, false flag operation all along." Probably already in comments sxn WorldNetDaily/NewsMax soon to be a Drudge headline.
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    • Author by mikelartist (January 27, 2010 11:33 am ET)
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      What conclusions has Media Matters jumped to? This Breitbart guy is duller than a dimbulb in a dark closet. Media Matters, and so far most of REAL journalism, hasn't done anything but report what is known and asked questions.

      Hallucinate much Breitbart?
      Speculate much?
      Project much?
      Obfuscate much?
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      • Author by DellDolly (January 27, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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        Well, they 'jumped' to the conclusion that O'Keefe might be guilty here after O'Keefe admitted that he was guilty. You know, that kind of irresponsible behavior.
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        • Author by RKAllen (January 27, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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          Someone called me out last night for calling him a criminal before he had "been proven guilty," never realising that O'Keefe had already admitted to having committed a crime.

          Posters at BigGov are losing it and are convinced that this is all part of some greater scheme and O'Keefe is sitting on some huge story. I suggested that Mr. Breitbeart might want to speak to O'Keefe about full disclosure before we have to go through the process of debugging and sweeping every federal office and building for possible security breaches.

          The response I got was that it must have been O'Keefe trying to show how weak our National Security is. These people are desperate to believe anything, and in the end, regardless of evidence or conviction, they will still keep him up on their pedestal.
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          • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (January 28, 2010 8:54 am ET)
               
            technically he's not considered a criminal until a conviction. Until then he's just a creep who PROBABLY committed a crime, or crimes...
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            • Author by rumpleteasermom (January 28, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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              The word you are looking for is LEGALLY - "Legally he's not considered a criminal until a conviction."

              TECHNICALLY he is a criminal the moment he commits a crime. Criminals who don't get caught are just lucky/skillful criminals. But they are still criminals ethically, morally and spiritually even if the law can't call them that yet.
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    • Author by Dradeeus (January 27, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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      "Or how about when that same private detective, in the course of investigating the "document dump," posted a video on BigGovernment.com of "ACORN operatives clearly engaged in some kind of discussion - likely related to the activities of that evening." Some solid factual grounding there."

      Is that real? I laughed so hard at this.
      "Here we CLEARLY see a bunch of people in an office, having some sort of 'meeting.' Probably about ILLEGAL stuff."
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      • Author by RKAllen (January 27, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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        Yep, its real. You can follow the link to the BigGovernment site and actually watch the video. Apparently workers standing around having a cigarette and conversations out side constitutes proof of a conspiracy to destroy incriminating documents.

        However, admitting to and being involved in a plot to infiltrate Federal property under the guise of phone maintenance workers bears further scrutiny, before a label of guilt can be applied.
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    • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (January 27, 2010 1:03 pm ET)
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      With O'Keefe arrest, Breitbart develops newfound appreciation for "facts"

      Which stands in stark contrast to the absolute disdain for facts that typifies tHe liars at MMFA
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      • Author by congero6189599 (January 27, 2010 1:14 pm ET)
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        Drop a little pooh then run. Hahaha...liar...ouch!
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 27, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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        MMFa uses video clips and print material from original sources, and if there are lies being propagated, they can be found at the source locations/web sites. I could understand your attitude if the documentation didn't exist, but it does, so suck it up, buttercup.
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      • Author by Good Creon (January 27, 2010 2:28 pm ET)
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        I'd be willing to pay you $100 if you manage to find one lie within MMfA's articles. Like cugagcmu805031 said, MMfA does an exceptional job providing citation and sources. It's not enough to simply complain MMfA lies, you need to back that claim up with facts if you want to be taken serioulsy.
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        • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (January 28, 2010 9:43 am ET)
             
          I don't take checks. Cash or money orders only.
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        • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (January 28, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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          In at least six of those instances, either the activists did not clearly tell the ACORN employees that they were planning to engage in child prostitution; or the ACORN employees refused to help them or apparently deliberately misled them;


          Poor MMFA, they must have forgotten to watch the videos.
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          • Author by rumpleteasermom (January 28, 2010 11:45 am ET)
               
            Okay, I've hunted down the source of your quote and read the whole thing.

            http://mediamatters.org/research/200912080007

            Now show me the lie.

            By the way, posting a link is pretty simple and there is more than one way to do it. I prefer highlighting the address, clicking CTRL+C, moving to where I want it to be and hitting CTRL+V.
            You can also use the tool above that looks like a chain and do it this way. Click the chain button, paste the address there and click Okay. Then type a description where is says "Your text"
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 27, 2010 1:20 pm ET)
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      Breitbart and his cohorts are just as delusional on this issue as they are on others. MMFA is in their crosshairs because it documents their actions and points out their hypocrisy. MMFA just reported the facts and linked them to O'Keefe's previous actions/words. The lights are on and the roaches are scurrying into the cracks.
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      • Author by News Corpse (January 27, 2010 7:12 pm ET)
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        Did you catch Breitbart's interview with Hugh Hewitt when Hewitt asked what Breitbart would have done if he had known what O'Keefe was up to:

        Hewitt: Would you have told him don't do that, if he had asked you?
        Breitbart: No, I have nothing to do with what James OKeefe does. James O'Keefe is an independent filmmaker.

        So if O'Keefe had told Breitbart that he was on his way to New Orleans to bug Sen Landrieu's phones, Breitbart would have said nothing to dissuade O’Keefe from his felonious mission. Even though O'Keefe was, at that very time, on Breitbart's payroll. This is an outstanding display of the ethical deficiencies at work in Breitbart's sphere.

        [http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Humor/acorn-borat.jpg]
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    • Author by toombsie (January 27, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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      Ouch - solid takedown. I'm sure this story won't be reported on biggovernment.com
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    • Author by scanlontodd9871 (January 27, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
         
      throw a terroist charge at them and then see how fast the reich will pounce.
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    • Author by AB-001 (January 27, 2010 4:27 pm ET)
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      If news sites via Google News are correct, then O'Keefe and his pals were trying to prove that Landirau's (SP?)office phones were always busy when people tried to call up to speak out against the health care bill. In this version of the events, he was filming his cohorts with a phone camera to document this theory.

      Well, not as bad as wire tapping, but still highly illegal and lacking in a basic understanding of ethics; this guy passes himself off as some sort of guerilla journalist but that doesn't absolve him from basic honesty in representing who he is in getting that story. Woodward and Bernstein never resorted to dirty tricks to uncover Watergate...and a senator's telephones being busy (if this is the case) is certainly nothing remotely like Watergate.

      The wingnuts are going to have to work hard to extricate themselves from the bed they got into when they promoted this guy. I'll bet that behind the scenes Gretchen Carlson is really fun to watch right about now!
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      • Author by vysotsky (January 27, 2010 5:15 pm ET)
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        "If news sites via Google News are correct, then O'Keefe and his pals were trying to prove that Landirau's (SP?)office phones were always busy when people tried to call up to speak out against the health care bill. In this version of the events, he was filming his cohorts with a phone camera to document this theory."

        Seriously? That's what he was up to? If that's all he wanted to document, why not just get a robodialing service to try to get through to senator's office and find out whether or not the calls are answered. That would be... oh what's the word? Oh, right: legal.

        Of course it wouldn't give O'Keefe and company a chance to play their favorite game: dress up.
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    • Author by skuttr (January 27, 2010 4:38 pm ET)
         
      Sounds like O'Keefe became overzealous. Unfortunately for the liberals wetting their pants because of this incident, it does very little to make Obama and his closely tied ACORN buddies look any better. "You want a house to run a prostitution ring with underage foreign girls out of? We can get you government help with that! Tight election? You need some false voter registrations? No problem!"

      How foolish you appear looking for apologists. It might be what you would expect from yourself, but we are fundamentally different from you. We actually believe in something called principles, so we don't defend wrong doing just because it was perpetrated by a conservative. The ends don't justify the means. If O'Keefe did wrong, shame on him.

      There are many shades of untruth, and not all are classified as lies. For instance, this article states:

      Imagine that -- Andrew Breitbart chastising the world for passing judgment before the facts are in.


      While not a direct lie (it doesn't technically say that Andrew Breitbart publishes false information) it makes that implication through sarcasm. It is a very clever way of avoiding the "lie" label, while still practicing dishonesty. I must admit this is a sophisticated technique for a liberal -- usually they just prefer to forge and air documents to back up their lies.
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    • Author by meg6216 (January 27, 2010 5:20 pm ET)
         
      With a heartfelt hat tip to Media Matters, BuzzFlash gives its Media Putz of the Week Award to Andrew Breitbart:

      Andrew Breitbart Goes on First Fact-Seeking Rampage Ever in Defense of James O'Keefe

      Enjoy!

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