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O'Keefe: "On reflection, I could have used a different approach to this investigation"

January 29, 2010 11:39 am ET by MMFA Staff

From James O'Keefe's statement, posted on BigGovernment.com and BigJournalism.com:

As an investigative journalist, my goal is to expose corruption and lack of concern for citizens by government and other institutions, as I did last year when our investigations revealed the massive corruption and fraud perpetrated by ACORN.  For decades, investigative journalists have used a variety of tactics to try to dig out and reveal the truth.

I learned from a number of sources that many of Senator Landrieu's constituents were having trouble getting through to her office to tell her that they didn't want her taking millions of federal dollars in exchange for her vote on the healthcare bill.  When asked about this, Senator Landrieu's explanation was that, "Our lines have been jammed for weeks."  I decided to investigate why a representative of the people would be out of touch with her constituents for "weeks" because her phones were broken.  In investigating this matter, we decided to visit Senator Landrieu's district office - the people's office - to ask the staff if their phones were working.

On reflection, I could have used a different approach to this investigation, particularly given the sensitivities that people understandably have about security in a federal building.  The sole intent of our investigation was to determine whether or not Senator Landrieu was purposely trying to avoid constituents who were calling to register their views to her as their Senator.  We video taped the entire visit, the government has those tapes, and I'm eager for them to be released because they refute the false claims being repeated by much of the mainstream media.

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    • Author by MickD (January 29, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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      This will be the defense? Let's hope the federal prosecutor will do his job.
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      • Author by goesto11 (January 29, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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        Yes, it's the John Wilkes Booth defense: "I was simply doing what I thought was best for the country."

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        • Author by MickD (January 29, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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          His dying words were..."tell my mother I died for my country"
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        • Author by Savoir Faire (January 30, 2010 9:33 am ET)
             
          Many believe that the JFK murder was a lone assassin crime, rather than a Mafia-CIA co-op. Consider that if John Wilkes Booth was a Shakespearean actor, then could he have been in the employment of the European Banking Cartel, who profited most from the Kennedy murder. After all, they own and control the FED.
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      • Author by rkcomments (January 29, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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        These goons are an insult to every serious journalist in the world.
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        • Author by borealis (January 29, 2010 2:28 pm ET)
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          These goons are an insult, but not to journalism. They are an insult to Donald Segretti and the rest of Nixon's "ratfu*kers," which is what they are really trying to be. Segretti, Dwight Chapin, and pals had a little more panache, but they were caught and punished, too.
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    • Author by Max Credits (January 29, 2010 11:45 am ET)
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      Number of gag order violations as of January 29, 2010 11:39 am ET: 2
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    • Author by RKAllen (January 29, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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      Uh, he is under a gag order isn't he?
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      • Author by acmetech (January 29, 2010 11:51 am ET)
           
        FOX just plugged O'Keefe for Monday night's Hannity show.
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      • Author by acmetech (January 29, 2010 12:06 pm ET)
           
        So you'd feel comfortable advising an admitted child trafficker how to perform business undetected? Or maybe my definition of "corrupt" is different from yours.

        ACORN wisely got rid of those employees.
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      • Author by acmetech (January 29, 2010 12:07 pm ET)
           
        So you'd feel comfortable advising an admitted child trafficker how to perform business undetected? Or maybe my definition of "corrupt" is different from yours.

        ACORN wisely got rid of those employees.
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      • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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        Yep, and from what I understand the Federal judge for that court is a by the book kind of guy. Expect contempt of court charges to be filed directly.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (January 29, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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      As an investigative journalist, my goal is to expose corruption and lack of concern for citizens by government and other institutions, as I did last year when our investigations revealed the massive corruption and fraud perpetrated by ACORN. - O'Keefe

      The only problem with that is that he didn't expose any actual corruption or fraud by ACORN. None at all.

      Please, feel free to show me wrong. Be specific, please.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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        That caught my eye, too. Even if his ACORN tapes were not deceptively edited, how many people did he "expose"? A handful? Hardly what I would call "Massive".

        This little twerp seems to be living in a fantasy world.
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        • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (January 29, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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          "This little twerp seems to be living in a fantasy world."


          [http://costumzee.com/view/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/captain_america.jpg]
          "I'm ready for my next assignment, Mr. Brietbart"
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          • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (January 29, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
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            Judging from the comments at BigGovernment.com, this is how the overwhelming majority of the posters see this guy. The savior of journalism, truth, justice, and the American way. O'Keefe has a lot of company in his fantasy world.
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      • Author by chana3812 (January 29, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
           
        Yes, I watched the Acorn tapes three times. Where was the fraud? They knew this joker was not real, and they were trying to throw his ass out.
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    • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 11:54 am ET)
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      "Investigation"??? Right.
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    • Author by dimes (January 29, 2010 11:56 am ET)
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      So why were O'Keefe's cohorts wearing phone company worker costumes? And why tell the staff their credentials were "in the car" if they were simply there as 'journalists' to ask about the phones?

      I think O'Keefe will soon be able to continue his passion for dress-up, if you catch my drift. Hope he likes orange.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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        Conservatives prefer black and white.

        [http://www.splcenter.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/maricopab.jpg]
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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          I don't think the Federal prison system uses that type of uniform.
          I'm probably wrong but; I think they have gone with jail house orange.
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        • Author by SLRTX (January 29, 2010 5:48 pm ET)
             
          Conservatards to view everything in black and white.

          The O'Keefe gang will soon know what the term "fresh meat" means.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 29, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
           
        They've seen too many old A-Team episodes.
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    • Author by goesto11 (January 29, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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      "...my goal is to expose corruption..."

      Sorry, I stopped reading at that point. Was there something funnier after that?

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    • Author by Reinhard (January 29, 2010 12:05 pm ET)
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      He just thought the costumes and listening devices were for a costume party. Simple mistake. Everyone walks into Federal offices dressed like utility workers, right?

      His lawyers must be having fits.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2010 12:07 pm ET)
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      We video taped the entire visit, the government has those tapes, and I'm eager for them to be released


      Here's a deal for the Cub Reporter: give us all your unedited ACORN footage and we'll release your Phone Scam footage.
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      • Author by MidnightWriter (January 29, 2010 4:06 pm ET)
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        Isn't it strange how being on the wrong side of the prison bars can suddenly make a guy in favor of releasing unedited video footage that might exonerate him?
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    • Author by worrierking (January 29, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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      You video taped the entire ACORN visits, the government doesn't have those tapes, you do, Mr. O'Keefe, and we're eager for them to be released because they refute the false claims being repeated by much of the wingnut media.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (January 29, 2010 12:26 pm ET)
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        Here's an imaginary scenario:

        Someone gets hold of the original O'Keefe/Giles ACORN videos by some devious means. Review of those videos proves that those made public were edited to such a degree that they were extremely misleading, with questions and comments from O'Keefe and Giles dubbed in over those that were actually made and exonerating statements from ACORN workers completely edited out.

        Where would the media focus be? On the discredited original videos, or on the dishonest way they were obtained? There's no question where the conservative commentary would focus. They'd do anything and everything to distract from the videos' discrediting and skew the discussion toward those who stole the originals. But where do you think the MSM would focus?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 29, 2010 12:17 pm ET)
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      LOL...! Investigative journalist...?

      Is this guy delusional? Maybe he's Glenn Beck's bastard child...
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    • Author by freddiethej (January 29, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
         
      The court can't gag the defendant. Free speech and all. But I am sure his lawyer probably told him to keep his mouth shut in any event. Of course, he's too smart to take his lawyer's advice.
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    • Author by clearstate (January 29, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
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      What tapes is he talking about? I thought he was recording the whole thing on his cell phone. Last I checked, cell phones don't have tapes.
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      • Author by For.America.2600 (January 29, 2010 12:53 pm ET)
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        They were supposedly recording the audio feed also from outside the building by the 4th person.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
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        "Tapes" sounds more dramatic than "digital video clips". O'Keefe is pretending he's Woodward and Bernstein.
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    • Author by Russ139 (January 29, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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      He'll plea bargain, take one year probation, and blame it all on the left wing attack machine. Make a few $$ speaking at conservative venues, and if he doesn't mess up again, become a paid analyst on News By Fox.
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      • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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        I don't think so. From what I hear about the Federal Court judge for that district, he doesn't put up with BS. This little twerp has already committed contempt of court by ignoring the judge's gag order . . . TWICE.
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        • Author by whatIthink (January 29, 2010 1:50 pm ET)
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          Actually, there is no gag order. But, the idiot does continue to dig his own grave making these inane statements. His lawyer should tell him that the smartest thing he can do right now is keep his mouth shut. But , I guess that would go against the whole narcissitic personality that endeared him to the right wing in the first place.

          Also, Breitbart made a big deal about how he has nothing to do with this, but I think it's kind of suspicious that the first outlet O'Keefe goes running to are two websites owned by Breitbart.
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          • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 3:16 pm ET)
               
            Really? It was my understanding that the judge place one on this little jerk. What a shame he didn't. 'Course, if he keeps this crap up, the judge might. You don't mess with federal district judges. They are appointed for life and they really don't care about ticking people off. They are the judge and you aren't!
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            • Author by whatIthink (January 29, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
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              From http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/okeefe_posts_statement_on_phone_tampering_allegati.php?ref=fpb

              "O'Keefe also appears to be correct that there was never any gag order in the case, despite media reports. A clerk at the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana told TPMmuckraker he knew of no such gag order."

              But, like I said, the more this idiot spouts off, the deeper the hole he's digging for himself.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 29, 2010 1:16 pm ET)
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        I think they have an empty speaking slot at the upcoming Teabagger Convention...
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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          He could run as Palin's VP candidate in 2012.

          Well, if he is out of jail by then.



          What are the rules for convicted felons serving in government?
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          • Author by John Paradox (January 29, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
               
            None, essentially (unless laws have been passed recently). When Michael Moore had TV Nation, one ongoing bit was that he had a convicted felon running for President because there were no restrictions. I remember the guy, who looked, talked and acted like a 'mobster'.

            Of course, there was also 'Ficus'...
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (January 29, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
               
            He could run as Palin's VP candidate in 2012. - bilbo_dies

            Simp/Pimp 2012
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      • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 3:23 pm ET)
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        I agree with Russ. He will do no time. His corporate masters need him to play Pied Piper to the WalMart Masses.
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    • Author by John T. (January 29, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
         
      Why did MMFA edit his statement rather than posting the full text?
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    • Author by JDStears (January 29, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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      "we decided to visit Senator Landrieu's district office - the people's office - to ask the staff if their phones were working."

      So...the way you "ask" is by disguising yourself, misrepresenting who you are and why you're there, and then video tape people's reactions with a cell phone without their knowledge? Maybe that's how I'll "ask" the wife if it's ok to go hang out with the guys next time. Moron!
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    • Author by overmars jr. (January 29, 2010 12:45 pm ET)
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      Ummm, I'm sorry... didn't he already say publicly that he was trying to clog up their phones to see how they'd react to that?

      Ooooooh, I can't wait to hear what tomorrow's living explanation will be! It evolves everyday!
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      • Author by Good Creon (January 29, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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        I was thinking the same thing reading this. I really hope the prosecution is on the ball with this case, and brings up O'Keefe's contradictory public statements.
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      • Author by internet soldier (January 29, 2010 4:20 pm ET)
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        Yeah, and then he said he'd doctor the video of her angry reactions and use that against her in the next election. Now that's investigative reporting!
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    • Author by Drew Mac (January 29, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
         
      "On reflection..." indeed. Mr. O'Keefe, by calling yourself an "investigative journalist," you do a great disservice to the real investigative journalists of the past and present. You are nothing but a callow prankster. The incredibly stupid misadventures of you and your three accomplices have not only ruined your chances of ever being taken seriously --you have actually hurt any "cause" you supposedly support. Time to go away, grow up, do some REAL "reflection.." You're young; there's still time for you to regain some measure of personal dignity in your life. But "investigative journalist?" No, you're not. Not now, not ever.
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    • Author by RKAllen (January 29, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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      Reading over his statement again, I would suggest that his lawyers quickly adives him to SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!

      "Our lines have been jammed for weeks." I decided to investigate why a representative of the people would be out of touch with her constituents for "weeks" because her phones were broken. In investigating this matter, we decided to visit Senator Landrieu's district office - the people's office - to ask the staff if their phones were working.
      Senator Landrieu never stated that her phones were "broken" for weeks. Never, at anytime has she made that claim. What she has said was that her phones were "jammed" with calls and the reasons why people were getting busy signals and voice mail was because of the number of calls that had made it through ahead of them.

      Oddly enough, the frequency of calls to her office had dramatically increased after these accusations were reported by an oposition group to the Senator. This increase in calls compounded on already present problem and as I understand it has gone straight out of control since the information has been coming out about O'Keefe's arrest.

      I also love his use of the term "- the people's office-" as if this is some excuse for his criminal trespass. Apparently Senator Landrieu is not entitled to a secure and safe environment where she can conduct her business, but must be ever watchful and vigilent of a possible sting operation to accuse her staff of indifference towards her constituents.

      Seriously, Mr. O'Keefe... if you have not been advised already, then let me be the first to do so... for your sake and the sake of the men you are involved with... stop making statements about this case. Any lawyer who allowed you to make this statement publicly will only serve to do you futher harm. Seriously reconsider the council that is currently representing you.
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 29, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
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        Ha, that is amazingly weak, hearing "our phones have been jammed", and interpreting it as "Our phones are broken". This idiot may not realize what an idiot he is for years, and only with much careful reflection.

        A sad example of the result of opportunists (the right wing media) feeding the ego of a person with very little intelligence or talent. O'Keefe was dumb enough to believe his own hype. Sucker.
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        • Author by RKAllen (January 29, 2010 2:30 pm ET)
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          How about this one Col.?

          If I were thinking like him, it wouldn't be to difficult to coordinate a larger number of people to begin calling into the office at a prescribed time to increase the number of calls for maximum effect during recording. Perhaps even get the phone calls going an hour earlier to compound perhaps a level of frustration amongst the employees, before coming in. It could be coordinated with a few dozen people through Twitter, or text messaging, and would not be at all difficult to execute.

          I would be curious to see what the frequency of calls were prior to O'Keefe's visit vs. the frequency of calls while he was there. The list of incoming calls to this office at the time of O'Keefe being there could be very important. If there was a coordinated effort by a number of people to begin making calls into the office of the Senator, and these people could be connected to O'Keefe, the other three men, or Breitbart... could lead to a much larger and coordinated effort to embarass the Senator and her staff inentionally.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 29, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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            That's a good point, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to check it out. However, the more I see of O'Keefe and his clown troupe, the more I believe even that may be too multi-layered a caper for them.

            They're basically a less funny version of The Jerky Boys (for anybody who remembers them) with a fanatical political agenda and less talent.

            As a teenager, I planned (and executed successfully) many practical jokes that were more sophisticated than O'Keefe's failed attacks on ACORN or Landrieu.

            Another thing I'd like to see; ACORN offices aren't federal buildings, but shouldn't there be some repercussions for going into a business and planning crimes ? I mean, for the meatheads who still believe ACORN employees were involved in aiding a child prostitution ring, wouldn't their role be more as a witness to the crime, an accomplice at most ?

            There is documented video of O'Keefe stating his intent to import underage sex slaves. This should be looked into as well.
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            • Author by magnolialover (January 29, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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              Good thought. I didn't think of the possible crimes O'Keefe was going to commit by importing sex slaves and pimping them out. Seems as though, if ACORN is guilty of this "crime" then, O'Keefe is the ringleader, since he was going to import the women and sell them into sexual slavery.

              Nice call Col.
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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            I think someone already got into trouble for something similar.
            Something about a call center phoning the dem ride line during elections.
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          • Author by John Paradox (January 29, 2010 3:44 pm ET)
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            On the Internet, such 'overloading' is known as Denial Of Service (DOS) attacks (or Distributed DOS = DDOS). Since neither the phone system nor the Internet can 'verify' the legitimacy of incoming calls, a fake request for contact gets the same priority as legitimate ones.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 30, 2010 11:57 am ET)
               
            it wouldn't be to difficult to coordinate a larger number of people to begin calling into the office at a prescribed time - RKAllen

            Well, maybe he was harking back to his collegiate days, you know, when you and 20 of your buddies would call Domino's Pizza at the same time, knowing they couldn't fill all the orders in 30 minutes so most of the pies would be free.
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            • Author by RKAllen (January 30, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
                 
              Flash Mobs in our pop culture are growing quickly in popularity from...

              Zombie Walks

              Finger Gun

              Dance

              Oprah

              Pillow fights

              Ninja

              Even flash mobs where people just stop doing anything at all

              Very popular amongst those of college age and I would be very interested to know if he would have known about these types of activities or maybe participated in one.

              When they use words like "stunt" and "prank" and the authorities keep refering to an attempt to disrupt the Senator's phones my mind keeps leading me here.
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      • Author by mattcable250650 (January 29, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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        I reacted to this paragraph as well. Sorry, but "jammed" and "broken" are two ENTIRELY different things! One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. They defendants present absolutely zero evidence that the bugs/cameras would have caught Senator Landrieus' people napping or ignoring calls.
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      • Author by GreenLantern (January 29, 2010 3:41 pm ET)
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        This makes me think of the computer hackers that do damage to business and then claim, I was just showing them how someone could hurt them via unethical computer work......
        It would be like me going to a bank and throwing a brick through the window to "show them" how their security can be broken.
        Only idiots use that kind of excuse and they need to be held accountable so others know it is a CRIME!
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    • Author by pete592 (January 29, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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      I'm getting so confused...

      What is a stunt or an investigation?
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      • Author by RKAllen (January 29, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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        You ask people who want to support him, it was a stunt.

        You ask people who want to beilieve in him, it was an investigation.

        You ask the Federal Law Enforcement Officials, it was a crime.
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        • Author by okiepoli (January 29, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
             
          "For decades, investigative journalists have used a variety of tactics to try to dig out and reveal the truth."

          Perhaps his next "tactic" could be kidnapping and tourtur... er, ahem, "enhanced interviewing" of his subject.
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      • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 3:18 pm ET)
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        Felony.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 1:43 pm ET)
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      Um, YEAH! You could have NOT BROKEN THE LAW, @$$hole!

      This is what you get when you follow an ideology that delusionally believes in it's own inherent goodness. The ends justifies the means.

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      What a f---ing nimrod.
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      • Author by overmars jr. (January 29, 2010 2:02 pm ET)
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        Fact is, ends can never justify means. They can only follow them chronologically.
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 3:42 pm ET)
             
          I mentioned that at work and got a different answer from some people I work with.

          I guess the ends justify the means, as long as YOU believe they do.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 29, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
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            Which is exactly why no principled person will ever use that way of thinking: It's too easy to delude yourself.

            The scientists were wrong to use bogus or suspect data in the IPCC Report.

            Just like...

            We are wrong to torture people or hold them wihout charge our trial, (or POW status) in the war on terror.

            Just like...

            It's wrong to put a bullet in the head of an OB/GYN as he leaves Sunday services, in order to prevent aboutions.

            Or change the rules in the Senate because the opposition is filibustering. (Both then AND now!)

            Principles sometime work against you, but they're still important. Actually they're all that really matters. And when you mistake CONVICTION for Principle, you become the enemy of whatever you are fighting to defend or accomplish. (Assuming it was even GOOD in the first place!)

            Never expect a courtesy you aren't willing to extend. Never assume a power you won't grant your opponent, and never place a limit on your opponent that you wouldn't have placed on you. TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO TREAT YOU. You have no right to expect any more consideration than you are willing to give yourself. And recieving none STILL does not justify giving none.

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            IMHO
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    • Author by The Ombudsman (January 29, 2010 2:04 pm ET)
         
      Regarding O'Keefe being under a gag order or not -

      It appears not.

      A gag order is typically an instruction not to speak of the case *at all*.

      However, under Mr. O'Keefe's conditions of release - there is a line on page 2, item 7 j that is similar, but (in my opinion) does not constitute a "gag order" as it is typically defined.

      http://www.legal-explanations.com/definitions/gag-order.htm

      http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2010/01/james-okeefes-conditions-of-release.php?page=2

      Gag orders typically involve talking to "the public", whereas the conditions of release specify contact with "victims" or "potential witnesses".

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    • Author by Publius39 (January 29, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
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      As an investigative journalist, my goal is to expose corruption and lack of concern for citizens by government and other institutions...


      ...by lying, cheating, and doctoring footage about groups that I don't agree with because they are poor and minorities.
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    • Author by congero6189599 (January 29, 2010 2:48 pm ET)
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      O'Keefe: "On reflection, I could have used a different approach to this investigation"

      No sh&t Sherlock! Hahaha!
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    • Author by pete592 (January 29, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
         
      After prison, I think we should set Ashton Kutcher loose on him. O'Keefe needs a serious and brutally humiliating punking.
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    • Author by shaggles (January 29, 2010 2:54 pm ET)
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      Intent doesn't matter.
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    • Author by raddave43 (January 29, 2010 2:59 pm ET)
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      See the difference little Jimmie O'Keefe, you mischief maker is that you have been charged with a crime, no one from ACORN has been.
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      • Author by So Fain (January 29, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
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        Great point.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 3:45 pm ET)
           
        Only because there were no crimes committed.


        However; if it was up to some on the right wing, the entire ACORN organization would currently be in a military jail somewhere.
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        • Author by raddave43 (January 29, 2010 3:52 pm ET)
             
          being waterboarded?
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
               
            If they thought they could get away with it.



            "Talk, we know you work with Al-Queda. The water doesn't stop until you talk."
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    • Author by MagCynic (January 29, 2010 3:43 pm ET)
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      It's funny how you all are coming down harder on this guy then the underpants bomber or the Ft. Hood shooter.
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      • Author by raddave43 (January 29, 2010 3:52 pm ET)
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        WTF are you talking about?
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      • Author by pete592 (January 29, 2010 3:52 pm ET)
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        I'm coming down on O'Keefe for his stupidity, not because he presents a threat to national security.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 29, 2010 3:56 pm ET)
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        And finally, after 50+ comments, a neocon shows up. To defend O'Keefe? No, even they know that's not possible. It's to make a nonsensical sweeping jab... at liberals!

        If you can find any evidence (try to overcome your well-known allergy to this) that anyone on these boards has expressed anything amounting to leniency regarding either of the other two people you name, kindly present it. Until then, you stand convicted by your own words as a fool of the first order.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (January 29, 2010 3:56 pm ET)
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        Thats is one of the most absurd things I have read from you Mag. Please enlighten us on how you arrived at this conclusion.
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        • Author by MagCynic (January 29, 2010 4:02 pm ET)
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          I'm talking about the left in general. When the Ft. Hood shooter hit the news it seemed like the left was hesitant to speak ill of him being connected with Islamic terrorism. They sort of danced around the issues and what not. It was a similar situation with the plane bomber. It seemed as if they were hesitant to comment to much about it until more information was released. In both cases they were not quick at all to start spewing venom at the accused. With O'Keefe though it came instantly. The guilty verdict was reached within seconds of the story breaking and sites like MMFA and Huffpost instantly pounced on it. Go to HuffPost and compare the comments from the two stories and you'll see what I'm talking about. I didn't necessarily mean specific posters from MMFA. I'm talking about members of the left-wing community.
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          • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 29, 2010 4:08 pm ET)
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            When the Ft. Hood shooter or the Underwear Bomber get named "Power Player of the Week" by an American propaganda channel that brags that it's the most popular cable "news" outlet, you might have a point.

            Until then, you're just thrashing around in your own stupidity.
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          • Author by whatIthink (January 29, 2010 4:46 pm ET)
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            Just another strawman argument. The whole right wing goes into collective attack mode when one of their own gets caught breaking...let me correct that, admitting to breaking the law. The whole "well, you didn't say this when this happened, blah, blah, blah" is always their fallback position. It didn't work in kindergarten and it's not working now. What you're conveniently leaving out (see? I can play this game also) is that the entire wing tried, convicted and wanted to sentence not only the Ft Hood shooter and the panty bomber, but the entire OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. What you also conventiently left out is the right wing claiming, numerous times, in response to these two incidents, that there was no terrorist attack under Bush, despite what reality says. Another thing you leave out is that the right wing used the two incidents to try and score cheap political points by trying scare the crap out of the country. You also left out that the right wing also basically accused the FBI of being incompetent and unable to handle the situation when infact they did a superb job. You also left out that the right wing media and politicians used the two incidents to further smear the President and tried to pant as being somehow more concerned with the rights of terrorists than Americans. You also left out that the right wing used the two incidents to dig up the old meme of Obama being muslim. You also left out that the right wing used the incidents to try and further their policies of torture, racial profiling, religious profiling, inciting racial discrimination and ignoring the very principles that drive the terrorists crazy. You also left out that the right wing nitpicked about the amount time it took Obama to comment on the panty bomber, trying to infer that Bush did a better job with the shoe bomber when it took Bush almost twice as long to relase a far less informative statement. You also left that the right wing downplayed the shoe bomber incident, saying it didn't happen on US soil, that it doesn't count as a terrorist attack because it happened in the air and the suspect was stopped by passengers...EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE PANTY BOMBER.

            I don't what's worse, you blatant hypocrisy or your stunning stupidity. Oh by the way, did it ever occur to you that O'Keefe has, not once, denied the charges and in fact has admitted them?

            Jeebus, like Rep Grayson wants to say to Cheney, STFU!!!!
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          • Author by overmars jr. (January 29, 2010 4:57 pm ET)
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            If you saw some people saying some things somewhere else, why don't you go back over to that place and ask them?
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 4:58 pm ET)
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            I live in the St. Louis area and a guy went off and shot 5 people where he works.
            I didn't call him out as a terrorist.

            Based on your logic I should have.

            O'Keefe got caught in the commission of a felony, and admitted it.
            I haven't called him out as a terrorist, either.


            I will admit to having a lot of fun with this issue though.

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          • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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            A clue, Mag. In the arrest affidavit, O'Keefe ADMITTED that he had entered the offices of Landrieu on FALSE PRETENSES. He gave the guilty verdict himself. I'm sure, in his small little mind, he thought that the admission of guilt [HIS] would be thrown out, but it will, most likely, be admissible as an "excited utterance against interest" which is an exception to the hearsay rule. He did it to HIMSELF, Mag.

            Why not keep up beter.
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          • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 29, 2010 6:15 pm ET)
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            It seemed as if they were hesitant to comment to [sic] much about it until more information was released.

            Well, duh! That's what intelligent people do. The contrast to this is not O'Keefe (who has admitted his guilt), but the behavior of those who are too quick to make such judgments, such as the legion of right-wingers who said that the Oklahoma City bombing was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists, or that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.

            In other words, it's the knee-jerkers on the right who repeatedly get things goofed up by not waiting until the information is available.

            Honestly, do you enjoy making yourself to look that foolish? I suppose you can really identify with O'Keefe.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 29, 2010 7:45 pm ET)
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              It's clear from the responses that many people on this board think very highly of themselves.

              You know what gets me the most, though? It's when someone like me who simply enjoys having good, honest political debate gets absolutely torn apart no matter what stupid or non-stupid things I say. I haven't been outright mean at all to anyone on these boards yet here are some of the responses I get:

              "you're just thrashing around in your own stupidity"
              "I don't what's worse, you blatant hypocrisy or your stunning stupidity"
              "Honestly, do you enjoy making yourself to look that foolish?"

              And that was from just one, simple posting. I have this image of a guy sitting behind his monitor at home with his nose stuck up in the air and his eyes glaring down at the monitor as he furiously types away berating those "teabagging, racists". I wonder how far off I am with that picture?
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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (January 29, 2010 8:10 pm ET)
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                Golly, those people sure are mean to you, Mag. And after you simply implied that they were treating O'Keefe worse than terrorists.

                Always the innocent victim of those horrible lefties. Poor, poor little wingnut.
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              • Author by bilbo_dies (January 29, 2010 8:30 pm ET)
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                It's clear from the responses that many people on this board think very highly of themselves.

                Unlike yourself.

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              • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (January 30, 2010 12:15 am ET)
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                It's when someone like me who simply enjoys having good, honest political debate gets absolutely torn apart no matter what stupid or non-stupid things I say.


                MagCynic, I will give you a respectful response if you will bother to read it.
                First, as to your treatment on these boards:
                Try an experiment. Go to BigGovernment.com and post the following: If this young man O'Keefe has admitted to breaking the law, why are all of you defending him? I really want to know.
                Next sit back and watch what happens.

                Second, as you stated an interest in "good, honest political debate" you don't appear to be sincere about it. Within 44 minutes of your post, whatithink supplied you with a detailed list of facts in evidence rebutting the assertions in your post, which is what you do in a debate. Did you rebutt him, as one would do in a debate? No, you did not.
                What did you do?
                You did what every wingnut apologist does. You changed the subject. Wingnuts come here with nothing but illogical, ill-informed drivel and with no understanding of the basic rules of debate or the mechanics of logic. There are college courses on , which do not teach you what to think, but how to think.
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                • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (January 30, 2010 12:37 am ET)
                     
                  (My post was saved prematurely, sorry)
                  (continuing)
                  People who take MMfA seriously are not looking to be told what to think, but for information to help us with how to think for ourselves and suss out facts necessary to that end. Most information provided by MMfA comes from authoritative sources and allows people to better decide for themselves what is going on in the world of politics. It is a reliable and trustworthy resource. We are not brainwashed and we can recognize BS whether it comes from the left or the right.
                  Your post just smacked of BS, so some people got upset with you.
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              • Author by internet soldier (January 30, 2010 3:33 am ET)
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                Mag, I havent seen you condemning Ted Bundy lately. It seems you're being harder on us than you are on him.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 4:25 pm ET)
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                And cue Mag playing the victim after being called out for suggesting that those on the left were not concerned about Fort Hood....NOW.
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              • Author by political_left-religious_right (January 30, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
                   
                Shall we go back to your first posting, MC?

                It's funny how you all are coming down harder on this guy then the underpants bomber or the Ft. Hood shooter.


                You type absolute drivel of this sort, accusing liberals of not caring about the victims of terrorists, and you think that qualifies as "good, honest political debate"? The fact is that your position has been dismantled, and you simply aren't adult enough to deal with it. If you don't like it here, then by all means, head over to one of the many wingnut sites where your whininess will be appreciated.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 29, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
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        And you know how hard we call came down on the underpants bomber or the Ft. Hood shooter? Of course you don't.

        Like most sane and rational Americans, we were appalled and disgusted with the Ft. Hood shooter (especially since I work, you know, on an Army base in VA and all). We were also appalled and disgusted with the bombing attempt.

        It's funny how you think you know what we all thought during those incidents.

        It's also funny how it's pretty easy to come down on this dunderhead O'Keefe for breaking federal laws.
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      • Author by internet soldier (January 29, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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        This is the best you got? Really?
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      • Author by bintx (January 29, 2010 5:13 pm ET)
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        Which of your propagandists is pushing this meme today???
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (January 30, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
           
        "It's funny how you all are coming down harder on this guy then the underpants bomber or the Ft. Hood shooter." - Mag

        Yet another pointless strawman is erected by Mag the Becker based on nothing more than his feelings and partisan emotions. Pathetic.
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    • Author by Sks1 (January 29, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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      if they werent trying to do anything nefarious why the costumes i've never know any investigative journalist to have gone undercover to expose any kind of wrongdoing,,i thought they did it with interviewing sources and hours of fact finding not some scam with hidden cameras i could be wrong just feems okeefe and his cohorts motives werent entirely pure..watch how hannity will make every excuse in the bok for him on monday and try attack the so-called mainstream media..cant you just see it coming?
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    • Author by dnmjr9424 (January 29, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
         
      The report says he was "released into the custody of his parents."What he needs is a job to keep him out of trouble.
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    • Author by SLRTX (January 29, 2010 5:46 pm ET)
         
      O'Keefe (a.k.a. - "fresh meat")

      Most criminals say that when they get caught.
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    • Author by CatsRBigLuv (January 30, 2010 5:00 am ET)
         
      Someone needs to remind James that the only thing he had "exposed" last year was his own inability to come clean with his inconsistencies. In addition to presenting heavily edited video with several black-outs and excessive narration, he also showed us how upset he can get with (and how carefully he avoids) the idea of having to answer very simple and reasonable questions about the contradictions in his work. With papa Breitbart, he now shows us that he demands the very same courtesy and caveats that he so rudely refused ACORN last year.

      Someone should also inform James that, while the exact words "wire-tapping" were not used in Special Agent Rayes's affadavit, it explicitly uses the terms "willfull" and "malicious" to describe attempted interference by O'Keefe & co with Sen. Landrieaus phone lines. Breitbart & O'Keefe might comfort themselves by trying to make it seems like they have been misunderstood. But the FBI usually doesnt advance such allegations on caprice. Call it what you want James, you attempted a criminal intrusion on state peoperty.
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