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The right-wing media hates Alinsky, except when he's shaping their movement

February 01, 2010 6:14 pm ET by Brooke Obie

"Warn your kids[!] Better yet, home school [them]," because Obama is "Brainwashing America's Youth," again -- if the latest bit of right-wing fear-mongering is to be believed, that is. Several conservative bloggers have run with the "story" that Organizing for America is accepting applications for its semester-long internship program/"civilian youth brigade," in which the "shocking list" of suggested reading includes community organizer Saul Alinsky's 1971 book Rules for Radicals (the purpose of which is: "indoctrinating [your children] into Saul Alinsky's radical tactics and ideology").

If so, you'd better keep your kids away from those Tea Parties.

Tea Party leader and "the co-founder of Top Conservatives on Twitter" Michael Patrick Leahy has written an entire book based off of Alinsky's "shocking" work, deftly entitled: Rules for Conservative Radicals: Lessons from Saul Alinsky[!] the Tea Party Movement and the Apostle Paul in the Age of Collaborative Technologies. In his book, "Leahy argues that today's conservative radical should follow the tactics of Saul Alinsky, but apply the morals and ethics of Martin Luther King."

And Leahy is not the only conservative poisoned by what right-wing blogger Pamela Geller calls "the mother's milk of the left."

Conservative "hero" and Fox News' favorite investigative journalist James O'Keefe is also a fan. The Los Angeles Times reported that O'Keefe found an "unlikely source of inspiration" in Alinsky and O'Keefe "took to heart" Alinsky's principle to: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

Also, on Fox News' Glenn Beck, David Horowitz advocated for conservatives to follow "what Saul Alinsky argues"---i.e., "shout[ing] things whether they are true or not," and "stag[ing] a die-in" -- in order to "catch the other side off-guard" and win the health care debate. 

Alinsky's "evil" has even reached all the way out to the Heartland, with The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder reporting: "in Kansas City, Missouri, a group of conservative organizers will conduct a most unusual training session.  They will teach the "Rules for Radicals' laid down by the god of community organizing, Saul Alinsky. The idea: learn to recognize the footprints of the enemy." Similarly, The Washington Independent's David Weigel has reported that "Alinsky has found a thriving and surprising fan club in the modern conservative movement," with "many 'Tea Party' activists say[ing] they're cribbing from Alinsky."

Yes, if Geller and the other bloggers on the right are to be believed, Obama is coming for your children through the vessel of Saul Alinsky. And in Geller's own words: "Can you imagine if the Republicans attempted such a stunt?" The mind boggles.

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    • Author by Major Tom (February 01, 2010 9:06 pm ET)
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      Absolutely true. They mock as they take notes.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (February 01, 2010 9:07 pm ET)
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      I've been a liberal all my life. I went to a liberal high school and I had really, really liberal teachers. I never heard of Saul Alinsky until last Fall. And where did I hear about him? From Conservatives on a message board I was writing on and the Foxterds. I asked my husband if he had heard of Alinksy, and no, he hadn't either. But if you look at Conservative politics since the 1970's, you will see a lot of his tactics used. When I was explaining the Rules for Radicals to him (still gleaned only from Wikipedia and Fox) he looked at me and said "That sounds like Karl Rove and Lee Atwater!" Yep, it sure does.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (February 02, 2010 8:45 am ET)
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        It really doesn't matter if you or I had heard of Alinsky. It does matter that Obama and Hillary and fellow travelers had. I'm willing to bet the Weather Underground knew Alinsky (personally or through print), and the blood is on their hands and his for their actions.
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        • Author by Major Tom (February 02, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
             
          Does it matter to you that people like Beck claim to hate Alinsky and his tactics, yet employ them at ever turn?
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    • Author by mattcable250650 (February 01, 2010 10:49 pm ET)
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      Yeah, some right-winger I was corresponding with said he didn't need to read any lefty blogs to know what we were all about, he read Alinsky and that book told him everything he needed to know about us (Kinda like saying "I've read Machiavelli, so I know everything there is to know about politics" or "I've read Sun Tzu, so I'm completely up to date on war"). I read some summaries and very strongly disagree with Horowitz:
      -i.e., "shout[ing] things whether they are true or not,"
      No, Alinsky does not advocate dishonesty in any way, shape or form. He advocates lots of aggressive rhetorical tactics, but there's nothing in his rules about being dishonest.
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      • Author by macfolk (February 02, 2010 5:19 am ET)
           
        I disagree with you that "Alinsky does not advocate dishonesty in any way, shape, or form." There are some very debatable and questionable ethical or moral ideas from Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. One could argue he is a consequentialist and that he might advocate deception to achieve an end which was successful. Certainly, some of his ethical ideas would be argued as wrong be deontologists or virtue ethicists.
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    • Author by SoloPocono (February 02, 2010 3:00 am ET)
         
      Just another example of how Conservatives-especially Beck, are using the psychological "tool" of "Projection".
      The ability to use short, FACTUAL phrases, twisted into a whole mythical conspiracy theory; then sprinkled with generous doses of projection-seems to be a VERY effective mind-control mechanism used for personalizing, and misinforming, or completely deceiving Faux Nooz's audience. (whose median IQ is likely low enough to convince them it's all "obviously FACTUAL")
      A sad and disturbing result, at least partially, of our failing educational system....
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (February 02, 2010 5:29 am ET)
         
      I think that if I had to define the conservatives of America in the 21st century in one brief sentence, it'd probably be "shout[ing] things whether they are true or not,". Now it's confirmed that that's in fact their unifying policy.

      Well, Frank Luntz is living proof of this. No matter how independent conservatives claim to be, they always seem to echo Frank Luntz bogus arguments.
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    • Author by macfolk (February 02, 2010 5:59 am ET)
         
      Ms. Obie, I agree that "the right" as you call them is making a bigger deal of this than they ought, and that they are clearly using some of Mr. Alinsky's ideas in there own pursuits, but there are a few things that I will debate you about. First, it is not unreasonable to borrow certain ideas from a person or book while at the same time condemning other aspects. Much of the conservative "hate" or disagreement with Mr. Alinsky's ideology stem from his consequentialist philosophies. They glean certain beneficial ideas from him about community organization while not advocating the framework of ethics within which he would employ those ideas. Also, I would not be surprise to find a conservative movement immersed in Rules for Radicals for the simple fact that it is always a good idea to "know thy enemy," although I would not recommend thinking of your opposing party in that manner.

      The second issue I have with your article is that it uses a straw-man argument. You have set up the idea that the conservatives are worried about indoctrination of children, but they follow some of the same teachings, so it is not a big deal. Whether or not "the right" uses the same ideas as "the left", has very little to do with whether it is a good idea for youth to be exposed to those same ideas. I think one could make arguments either way. The real debate is whether it is a good idea for an organization targeting youth to have a book with questionable ethical philosophies on a reading list. These are minors, but of course parents do have the right to deny their child's participation and/or to read the book with their children and discuss the ideas there in. You have to admit though, either party involving itself in forming groups of minors has the subtle appearance of propagandism. President Obama should be empowering parents to get their children involved in activism, not enlisting the children himself. It has a poor appearance even if it has good intentions.
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    • Author by BobStreamMedia (February 02, 2010 9:05 am ET)
         
      Here's something you can take to the bank every time: Whenever a fundamentalist (by which I mean the likes of Glenn Beck and his ilk)--whenever they accuse their opponents of anything, it's because they are guilty of it themselves.

      Like the commenter below, I never heard of Saul Alinsky until I heard Glenn Beck talking nonsense about him. It was immediately apparent that Beck was charging Progressives with doing what Beck himself was doing, which is to consider Alinsky as some kind of Prophet of Progressivism. I'm not the least bit surprised to find that the Tea Party fascists are using Alinsky. It's like everything else fundamentalists/Conservatives hate: (Abortion, homosexuality, divorce, etc) they are the ones most guilty of it.
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