When will Beck attack Reagan's "suicidal" fiscal policies?
February 08, 2010 8:30 pm ET by Tom Allison
Glenn Beck today said that President Obama was "as fiscally responsible as a real housewife of Orange County at a Louis Vuitton sample sale." As evidence, Beck produced a chart of FDR's presidential spending as a percentage of GDP, claiming "the highest, if you see, in 1941, you might remember that date because it's supposed to live in infamy, 1941, 12 percent of GDP." Beck compared that figure to estimates from Obama's 2011 budget proposal: "Here's the lowest at 22.8 percent."
Beck then warned his viewers that this level of spending might lead to an all-out collapse of the American economy:
BECK: May I ask, how is this sustainable? Forget sustainable, how is this even sensible? How is this not suicidal for our country? How is this not going to turn us into, I don't know, Greece?
The only problem is that the U.S. Government Printing Office keeps track of these kinds of things.
What, then, are we to make of the budgets of fiscal conservative idol Ronald Reagan? See, federal spending during the Reagan administration never fell below 20 percent of GDP and peaked at 23.5 percent in 1983. Will Beck now attack Reagan's pursuit of fiscal policies that were "suicidal" for America?

















IOKIYAR!!!
World War 2 never happened, the 'real war' films were faked, as an early exercise to develop the technology to fake the Moon Landings!
Heck, just a few minutes ago on another thread, someone was saying that all of the bad signs at a tea party protest were put there by liberal plants.
What to make of it? At the end of the Reagan administration the US economy sustained the longest peacetime expansion in history. Higher growth and lower inflation that plagued the economy between '73-'80.
mmfA likes to trot out the percentage of GDP numbers but I have to ask. How many of the proposed changes were passed by a democrat controlled congress? What were the realized effects after eight years? Reagan delivered all four of his proposed economic policy objectives. Just not to the extent that we had hoped. That fact is undeniable and is always overlooked by hacks trying to score political points.
Reagan's problems were a slow realization of the Savings and load mess, resistance to tax increases, and his democratic controlled congress' resistance to cuts in domestic spending.
What in your estimation was Clinton's excuse?
So, it's safe to assume you disagree with Beck and you believe that Obama's fiscal strategies are sound.
Why, yes, I believe you are.
You don't even get a "nice try" for that bit of twaddle.
The democratic congress essentially passed Reagan's budgets. He wholly owns them all.
Notice how Clinton reduced the deficit every single friggin' year. When you're turning the car around, the distance you travel forward doesn't count against you.
Here is some more outhouse reading to get you up to speed.
No he didn't, Slickens. Despite much talk, Reagan never delivered an actual balanced budget.
I don't pretend to know much about matters economic, but I know taurine fecal matter when I hear it. T-Bone may talk about the great economic expansion of the 80's but it was a MIRAGE. Reagan replaced "tax and spend" with borrow and spend, and we're still reeling from that debacle.
NEXT!
Of course you're confusing a campaign promise with Reagan's Program for Economic Recovery. He delivered on all four pillars of that.
1) Reduce Government spending
2) reduce marginal tax rates
3) reduce regulation
4) reduce inflation
Show me where I'm wrong.
How often do we have to repeat this? The Gross Federal Debt when Carter left office--$900 billion. The Gross Federal Debt when Reagan left office--$2.7 trillion.
By using some adjusted for inflation slight of hand you can argue that Reagan reduced the rate of increased government spending, but in no way, shape or form can you say that Reagan spent less dollars.
Slickens, if you think that a balanced budget was something Reagan only mentioned during campaigns, then you must have slept through the 80's. It was practically a mantra with him.
Let's just say he wouldn't have needed to write it on his hand, or anything.
And a quick Thank You to MidnightWriter and steeve for showing you where you're wrong elsewhere.
On the March 17, 2006, broadcast of the PBS' The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, New York Times columnist David Brooks falsely claimed that "in the Reagan years, unemployment went from 13 percent to 5 percent."
In fact, according to data from the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics, in 1981, Ronald Reagan's first year in office, the U.S. average unemployment rate stood at 7.6 percent. During Reagan's presidency, it reached a high of 9.7 percent, and had declined to a level of 5.5 percent when Reagan left office. The rate from when Reagan entered office through his last year declined by 2.1 points, far less than the eight-point drop for which Brooks credited Reagan. (Besides that obvious reality in November of 1981, ten months into the Reagan Administration, unemployment had risen to 8.5% and continued to rise to almost 10% through February of 1983.)
The Reagan Years featured the highest deficits in peacetime, very high interest rates, recessions and an average of almost 8% unemployment for his eight years. His largess spilled over into the Bush I years causing more deficits, his pledge, "no new taxes," his reversal, and the worst beating an incumbent suffered in 150 years.
Along with Reagan’s tax cuts for the rich, we experienced the Stock Market crash of 1987, the Savings & Loan debacle and bailout for almost one trillion dollars, and the deregulation of broadcasting, which has led to the consolidation of ownership regarding thousands of previously independent stations.
What we have seen in this country has been an explosion in private wealth and a crying need for public revenues. This drought in public revenues has resulted in an aging infrastructure, which includes; poor and deteriorating bridges and roads, an antiquated electric grid system, weak, porous and inadequate levee systems, un-dredged harbors and rivers, a deteriorating reservoir system and over-crowded dangerous airports. In the Clinton Years, taxes on the wealthiest bracket went up to 39.6%, three extra brackets were created, there were tax cuts for the middle class, surpluses ensued, and over 20 million jobs were created. A benefit of that expansion of the work force, especially in the center cities, resulted in a dramatic lowering of crime in the period from 1993 through 2000. (Another urban myth was that Rudy Giuliani’s police tactics alone lowered crime in NYC. What is conveniently forgotten was that crime dropped dramatically in urban centers throughout America without Giuliani’s help!)
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