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WaPo distorts own polling to suggest public blames Obama, GOP equally

February 09, 2010 3:58 pm ET by Jamison Foser

Here's the lede of the Washington Post's report on its new poll:

Americans spread the blame when it comes to the lack of cooperation in Washington, and, in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, most want the two sides to keep working to pass comprehensive health-care reform.

But if you scroll all the way to the end, you'll find that the poll actually paints a rather different picture: A plurality of Americans think President Obama is doing "about the right amount to compromise with Republicans."  A majority think Obama is either doing the "about the right amount" or "too much" to compromise.  Meanwhile, 58 percent of Americans think Republicans are doing too little to compromise.

I'll say that again: According to the Post poll, 54 percent of Americans think Barack Obama is doing either the right amount or too much to compromise with Republicans, while 58 percent think Republicans are doing too little to compromise with Obama.

And yet the Post writes that up as "Americans spread the blame when it comes to the lack of cooperation in Washington."  That may be consistent with the Post's both-sides-are-equally-guilty approach to the lack of bipartisanship, but it isn't an accurate reflection of the poll.

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    • Author by wookie (February 09, 2010 4:11 pm ET)
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      I think WaPo's point is that Obama isn't doing enough to be a Republican and Republican's aren't doing enough to make him one.
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    • Author by wesley (February 09, 2010 4:23 pm ET)
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      -- I'll say that again: According to the Post poll, 54 percent of Americans think Barack Obama is doing either the right amount or too much to compromise with Republicans, while 58 percent think Republicans are doing too little to compromise with Obama. -- Foser

      Why keep repeating what the ABC poll already said? They said it clearly at the top of the article in paragraph two:

      -- Nearly six in 10 in the new poll say the Republicans aren't doing enough to forge compromise with President Obama on important issues; more than four in 10 see Obama as doing too little to get GOP support --

      That's a classic example of "spreading the blame". This article rates a great big "Duh".
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (February 09, 2010 4:30 pm ET)
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        Wesley, your post makes no sense...

        Mr. Foser is pointing out that the WAPO headline is dishonest. If WAPO was simply repeating what ABC said than they wouldn't be misleading and dishonest, would they?
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        • Author by wesley (February 09, 2010 4:36 pm ET)
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          You didn't get it either...que sera sera.
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          • Author by MidnightWriter (February 09, 2010 4:43 pm ET)
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            Errrr. . .why did you repeat what had been repeated in Foser's post? It is clearly written at the top of the page for everyone to see.

            I'll guess maybe that's your writing style. Just as I'll guess you were criticizing Foser's writing style.
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            • Author by wesley (February 09, 2010 4:47 pm ET)
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              You don't have to guess.
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              • Author by MidnightWriter (February 09, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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                Fair enough, wesley. I've been known to do that myself.

                Nevertheless, I'll side with Foser on this. The Post did a bit of a reverse "when did you stop beating your wife" bit with this. Only a poll result of 100% and 100% could have prevented them from using the "Americans spread the blame. . ." line.

                Was it a lie? No. Was it misleading? Oh, hells yeah.
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      • Author by MM_JF (February 09, 2010 4:42 pm ET)
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        Not only is the sentence you quote not the article's lede, it also fails to make clear that a plurality *do* think Obama is doing enough -- and a majority think he's doing enough or too *much.* And "nearly six in 10" and "more than four in 10" both sound an awful lot like "five in 10," further blurring the difference.

        So, no, that sentence is not remotely adequate -- certainly not when following a highly misleading lede.
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        • Author by wesley (February 09, 2010 5:00 pm ET)
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          Nope...I don't agree with your analysis. The lede that "Americans spread the blame" is accurate...and immediately buttressed in paragraph two...60% unhappy with republicans and 40% unhappy with Pres. Obama. That's spreading a lot of blame.

          It's your opinion that it looks "an awful lot like five in ten"...not the written opinion in the Wapo article.

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          • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 5:08 pm ET)
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            The lede is not accurate.

            It omits relevant data, which is that one side is deemed to be significantly more to blame, and significantly less cooperative.

            Omission of relevant data CAN and DOES further the conservative agenda.

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            • Author by cugagcmu805031 (February 09, 2010 7:39 pm ET)
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              Making a false equivalence is what WaPo is doing so as not to offend the rethuglicans. The truth doesn't matter as long as they don't get a call from Darth Cheney.
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          • Author by spooky3 (February 09, 2010 10:31 pm ET)
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            Maybe this will make it clearer for you - about 50% more people believe the Republicans are to more to blame than the Pres. ((60%-40%)/40% = 50%). That is a big difference.

            Or how about this: John is 50% taller than Joe is, but are otherwise similar. Would you say they are equally likely to succeed in the NBA?
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          • Author by mattcable250650 (February 10, 2010 12:03 am ET)
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            In a very, very highly technical sense you're right, but the impression it very clearly tries to give is that both sides are equally to blame. No, the precise, exact words don't say that, but it's quite clear the WaPo is trying to mislead the public with ever more false equivalences.
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      • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
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        How did you miss this?

        "Americans spread the blame when it comes to the lack of cooperation in Washington."

        It's the old both sides are equally guilty false equivalence argument, and it should be pointed out.

        It poisons our national discourse when we lay blame equally when the blame is not equal. We can't identify solutions to fix the problems if we can't accurately identify the problem areas. Incorrectly assigning blame hinders that identification. It provides cover to the worst offenders, letting them get away with more than they should.
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      • Author by shaggles (February 09, 2010 5:18 pm ET)
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        40% blame Obama and 60% blame the Reps is not an example of spreading the blame. Spreading the blame would be if a majority thought Obama and the Reps were both to blame.
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (February 09, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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      Imagine how upset conservatives would be if WAPO wrote the truth?

      Why would WAPO want to purposely put itself in the line of fire?

      It's much easier to kiss corporate conservative butt.
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    • Author by DellDolly (February 09, 2010 5:14 pm ET)
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      The Republicans get 50% more people thinking that they are not doing the right amount, and close to 50% who think they aren't doing enough.

      That's not 'spreading the blame'.

      Top that off with the FACT that reality tells us that the Dems HAVE been pretty bipartisan, and the Republicans have been very partisan, and it's even MORE offensive. It means that Republicans aren't fairly judging the Dems efforts or the Republicans lack of the same, and independents are likely misled by the rightwing spin on things.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (February 09, 2010 5:27 pm ET)
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      Lets see...... filibuster proof Senate and it's the Republicians fault. Huh.
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      • Author by loonz (February 09, 2010 6:16 pm ET)
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        The poll asked about cooperation between the two parties. It reinforces something we already knew - conservatives don't play well with others.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (February 09, 2010 7:41 pm ET)
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        Like to have seen them to determine if it is indeed filibuster proof. Even if the nexts weeks headlines decried democratic partisenhood from Monday to Friday. With a special round of Sunday morning talkshows centered on the question,"Have the Democrats gone to far!?"

        It'd still be worth it.
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        • Author by papajohn (February 10, 2010 2:25 am ET)
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          Thank you for paying attention to someone else in the corporate media for a change instead of wall to wall Fox News bashing. Reminds me of the old days of Mediamatters where you didn't let the rest of the corporate media slide like you do now in favor of the easier target.

          Thanks again.

          John
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          • Author by papajohn (February 10, 2010 2:27 am ET)
               
            In fact, why don't you try this distorted AP article on for size.

            http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_CARE_OVERHAUL?SITE=SCFLO&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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          • Author by a2zblue (February 10, 2010 7:21 am ET)
               
            Awwwww, how sad . . . "everybody's" pickin' on poor lil' ol' Fauxnewz . . . and they didn't do nothin' at all to deserve it . . . boo, hoo, hoo.

            Classic bully-victimization.

            Step 1: projectionism -- accuse others of the crimes you're committing.

            Step 2: victimization -- no matter what happens, it's always someone else's fault, never your's.

            Step 3: combativeness -- violence is the solution of choice, especially when logic is injected into the argument.

            Is it supposed to be a secret or something, that the reichwing is following the Nazis' playbook when it comes to propaganda and Fauxnewz as its public microphone?
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          • Author by punkin (February 10, 2010 7:31 am ET)
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            yes, the bulk of the articles on MMfA are about Fox... or Rush... however, there are regularly sited misinformative articles from WaPo, New York Times, Reuters, AP, ABC, CNN and even occasionally MSNBC. It's not that MMfA is being lazy, it is that the most blatant misinformation and out right lies come from Fox.
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            • Author by papajohn (February 10, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
                 
              yes, the bulk of the articles on MMfA are about Fox... or Rush... however, there are regularly sited misinformative articles from WaPo, New York Times, Reuters, AP, ABC, CNN and even occasionally MSNBC. It's not that MMfA is being lazy, it is that the most blatant misinformation and out right lies come from Fox.

              Most of my friends don't listen to Fox News. ALL of my friends are brainwashed - mostly by CNN. Most teachers I know watch CNN and believe what they spew. Same FOX lies in a different burning bag. CNN is Fox News for "smart" people. It is rare these days for MMFA to go after them or any of the written press. This needs to change.

              John
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          • Author by punkin (February 10, 2010 8:44 am ET)
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            "Worst Headline of the Day award goes to the AP
            February 09, 2010 8:53 am ET by MMFA Staff"
            "Wall Street Journal senior economics writer Stephen Moore advanced a long-time Republican falsehood "
            "Washington Times: D.C.'s "Snowmageddon"
            "BigGov: "[A]nother 10-20 inches of snow"
            "Washington Times editor emeritus Wesley Pruden wrote that "[t]here's really not very much gay about war,"
            "The Politico quoted former Sen. Trent Lott "
            "In a New York Post column"
            "Conservative media outlets, as well as a USA Today"
            etc, etc, etc
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