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Glenn Beck - He's just like us! (Except he's not)

February 21, 2010 5:55 pm ET by Christine Schwen

Glenn Beck has worked hard to portray himself as a regular guy -- just an everyday Joe who fears for his country -- despite the fact that Beck, as my colleague Brian Frederick rightly pointed out, is hardly the everyman he likes to say he is.

The latest incarnation came during his keynote address at the CPAC conference (which itself is such an everyman thing to do), where Beck told the audience about how he grew up working in his father's bakery and became the first person in his family to go to college, and how he only went for one semester because he couldn't afford it:

BECK: My father, eventually, business, because of the 1970s and the small town was dying, we went out of business. He moved. But you know what? I learned from that. I learned from the mistakes. I learned from the failure.

I'm the first person to go to college in my family. I went for one semester. I took one class. Do you know why? I couldn't afford it. Now I never once even thought: "This isn't fair." I never once thought: "I want to take it from him, how come he gets to go and I can't go?" I never once thought I was owed an education. I was 30 when I went. I was trying to find answers.

When I couldn't afford to go anymore, I was okay. I went to work, I got -- I picked up my kids from school. I spent the afternoon with them. I put them down to bed, or whatever we did. I did my homework, if you will, for the next days show, and I went and I read. I educated myself. I went to the library -- the books are free. I went to the bookstore. I read until two, three o'clock in the morning some nights -- I still read until two, three o'clock some mornings -- after everything's done.

I educated myself. My education was free and I'm proud of that. When did it become something of shame or ridicule to be a self-made man in America?

Now, working to try and afford college while trying to support a family is a story being played out all over America. However, in Beck's case key details widen the gap between his everyman persona and reality. See Beck -- who has reportedly said, "I was making, I don't know, a quarter of a million dollars by the time I was 25" -- previously stated that the reason he was able to attend Yale (the everyman school) was due to a letter of recommendation from a sitting U.S. Senator. As he explained in his book, A Real America (a real everyman title)

I know Joe [Lieberman] very well. Well, we're not buddies or anything, not like we're out buying yarmulkes together. But Joe is responsible for my being accepted at Yale. He wrote a recommendation for me, and I attended Yale University. [A Real America, p111]

Of course, with details like that, his everyman act might start to feel as contrived as Beck's regular waterworks.

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    • Author by phredicles (February 21, 2010 6:06 pm ET)
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      Left college because he couldn't afford it? I heard he flunked out. Or was that Lardbutt?
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      • Author by Midnight Kevin (February 22, 2010 6:19 am ET)
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        Could explain why he is so adamant about attacking schools and the education system. I had a professor that said most people who blame the school or claim the teacher is out to get them does not have a really have a problem with the teacher - they have a problem with themselves and are unwilling to acknowledge, accept, and change. Glenn Beck was probably told something that he didn't like and dropped out, and his self-education is why he has no bearings on reality. I probably followed the first book he picked up and never fact checked or compared it to opposing viewpoints.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (February 21, 2010 6:10 pm ET)
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      He could have done what I did, got student loans and paid them back. The real story is that Beckie Boy couldn't cut it at Yale and was probably intimidated by the more qualified students. The other issue is that he's a bald-faced liar. If he really was making a quarter of a million dollars by the time he was 25, he could have found a way to finish college, unless he was snorting something up his nose and pouring something down his gullet instead of spending it on tuition.
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      • Author by SoloPocono (February 21, 2010 7:46 pm ET)
           
        Beck has gone through his always changing Bio more than a few times. And it shows the ignorance of his "zombies", willing to believe ANYTHING he tells them on a certain day. In this case though, it was a matter of minutes between he said that "just 15 years ago, after years of abusing alcohol and drugs, I found myself in the fetal position-I'd lost my family, my job, everything..." Beck is between 45 and 49--again, depending on the day, book or show--and YES, it's even changed several times on wiki. 1. He didn't bother to tell his audience it was Yale. 2. if he'd been drinking and drugging "for YEARS", had lost his jobs and family 15 years ago...how in the heck could he have done much of ANYTHING at "30"??
        Oh, nevermind...I keep forgetting, he's the "Second Coming" to many of his followers. He can do ANYTHING!!
        At least there's ONE thing we can comfort ourselves with. This guy could NEVER get anywhere CLOSE to a "political position", nevermind "Prez" as so many of his followers keep hollerin for. You can't "vett" an ego... Then again.... <baby bush, darth vader....>
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (February 22, 2010 7:41 am ET)
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        Exactly. If you make 250,000 a year you can go to so many colleges in this nation its not even funny. this is a common theme among these Republicans. They take their own personal story, embellish it to fit their needs, and then wonder aloud why everyone can't be like them.

        The good news is that I think it is essentially official now. The Republican party is led in every way by non formally educated former alcoholics and drug addicts who's only claim to success is that they are able to gripe incessantly over the radio to millions of similiarly uneducated Americans and convince them that they really know what they are talking about. That's it! CPAC is certainly a clear glimpse into who and what ideas are driving the GOP. the good thing is that narcississtic ego driven personalities tend to eat their own. It's only a matter of time. Grab some popcorn and sit back and watch people like Beck and Limbaugh take the Republican party over the edge of the abyss.
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    • Author by highlyunlikely (February 21, 2010 6:17 pm ET)
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      finally realized just what antagonizes me so much reading unfiltered Beck: he's boring as h*ll.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 21, 2010 6:46 pm ET)
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      My understanding was that Beck went to work in a radio station when he was very young...maybe 13. By the time he graduated from high school he already knew what he wanted to do...radio. So, college was really not a consideration. I also understood that Beck was a very good "shock jock", very much in demand, and became wealthy at a young age doing that.
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    • Author by clearstate (February 21, 2010 7:06 pm ET)
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      Someone needs to find his college records and find out why he really "dropped out". While you're at it, find his birth certificate.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (February 22, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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        no see you cant go looking for his birth certificate. because he is white. thats not the way it works. white guy=american without question.
        black guy who is president=cannot be american under any circumstance no matter if a birth certificate is presented.
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      • Author by FresnoBow (February 23, 2010 10:25 pm ET)
           
        this passing by i saw your points. i do so agree! lets see Beck's college records, no all his records.And check his rap sheet too. We need to know who this Guy is talking. Along with giving every one ideas about what to think about. what the Big money people owe the nation, and how we live etc. After all this guy runs a talk show for a lot of money. You know lets get the same information Oboma, old berry my have a GPA we can all look up to. May as well have a look at all the czars also.
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    • Author by Refresh (February 21, 2010 7:40 pm ET)
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      Please clear something up for me. Did Beck go to school at age 30 and drop out? Or did he drop out early on then go back at age 30? I'm confused. On one hand he claims he was making about $300,000 by age 25. On the other hand he claims he went to school at 30 and that he dropped out because he could not afford it. Something is not adding up. Am I missing something?
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (February 21, 2010 8:55 pm ET)
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        Don't know... Beck has been known to take creative license with historical fact...such as his mother's death. Strange dude...
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (February 21, 2010 9:12 pm ET)
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        Very good questions-- I don't get what he's saying either.

        If he was 30, then why is he complaining about his "father?" If I had a kid who'd blown $250Gs in his 2os I'd say "no way" too.

        Classic rambling coming from a classic nutcase.
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      • Author by MagCynic (February 21, 2010 9:49 pm ET)
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        Or maybe he was making a quarter million at age 25 and lapsed into alcoholism and lost his job and money. By the time he was 30 his money would've been gone from 5 years of alcoholism. So yeah, you must have missed that.
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        • Author by neon desert (February 21, 2010 11:34 pm ET)
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          Oh, you mean like what happens to your typical middle class "everyman". Yeah, I can see it...
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        • Author by soze169880 (February 22, 2010 12:43 am ET)
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          Trust me, Young MC, NO ONE hasn't caught that Glenn Beck is an alcoholic.
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        • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:07 am ET)
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          One doesn't "lapse" into alcoholism . . . one either is an alcoholic or one is not. One may "lapse" into alcohol abuse, but not alcoholism. Two different things.

          You seem to know an awful lot about this loser, why is that?
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        • Author by jediknight65 (February 22, 2010 11:24 am ET)
             
          hmmm, your defending a guy who was a well known drug addict and alcoholic.....who seems to have turned himself around.

          yet....the president of the united states admitted he had tried drugs as a young guy and he gets his throat jumped on and you join in and defend a guy like beck doing the jumping.
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        • Author by fishgirl26 (February 22, 2010 11:59 am ET)
             
          BTW, when he's reading his books and getting educated did he go to a PUBLIC LIBRARY?? Yeah, because that's not funded by other sources. He's a liar..just like his claims about the ladies on "The View", or his run in w/ a truck driver...it's all drivel!!
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          • Author by Ruby (February 22, 2010 12:34 pm ET)
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            Public library = great example of a socialist institution in America.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (February 22, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
                 
              really? then Andrew Carnegie was a socialist? how about the ancient romans.....their schools were public libraries. it was also the same in Athens, the cradle of democracy.......so your saying all that is socialism......

              (btw, if your being sarcastic disregard, if not...well, you need therapy)
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              • Author by Ruby (February 23, 2010 11:56 am ET)
                   
                My point was how hypocritical Glenn Beck is.

                He rails about big, bad socialism and taxes and etc. etc. and then he talks about how wonderful it was that he was able to get educated through the use of a PUBLIC library, which uses taxpayer's money to provide resources to the public for the betterment of the community. It is an example of socialism in America (just like public schools are).

                Beck was, by his own admission, allowed to become educated through the use of a socialist institution.

                Jon Stewart actually made a joke about this on his program last night as well.
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              • Author by albertsenj (February 24, 2010 1:26 am ET)
                   
                Carnegie started the libraries. They are currently funded by tax dollars - which by definition take money from people who have it to spend on those who have less. Which is the current definition of socialism.

                I am shocked, SHOCKED! that Beck would advocate anyone using such a blatantly socialist facility.
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        • Author by Refresh (February 22, 2010 2:14 pm ET)
             
          I caught that he was a drop out, an alchoholic and a drug abuser, but I was trying to put it all in a time line. So when he says he couldn't afford it, he really means he could afford it but he spent his money on alcohol and drugs instead? Ok, got it.
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      • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:06 am ET)
           
        No, Beck's a PROUDLY uneducated, unintelligent liar. And his clone on this site, Mag, not only applauds him for that, he apparently has tried to emulate him.
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    • Author by worrierking (February 21, 2010 7:49 pm ET)
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      It's like reading Dickens or Steinbeck.

      Except the narrator is on the side of the workhouses and the banks.
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      • Author by dirtylittlereligion (February 21, 2010 8:32 pm ET)
           
        Jeebus. I clicked on the link to the google excerpts of "The Real America" (such a non-elitist book title). It's ridiculous. If he indeed wrote the book, it's dull as hell, if not, then the ghostwriter was not worth the money. I had to struggle though the sloppy redundancy.

        But the page I just stumbled on, he talks about how much he loves GWB and complains about people calling Dubya "stupid" because he has an MBA from Harvard. Even though he recognizes that "Daddy's litte CIA background" could get him in, Beck then mocks the idea that power or money could somehow keep Bush's grades up (WOAH! THAT'S CRAZY!). But then...and this is great...he goes on to mock the education of HOLLYWOOD ACTORS! Mr. "self educated, when did being a self made man become a bad thing" BECK!

        Fcukin' Crazy. How can anyone trust anything that comes out of his mouth? He's a mercenary. If someone could pay him more than Rupert can, and he could exploit the fears of any other group for more money, there is no doubt that he would.

        I wonder if there is any issue that he HASN'T contradicted himself on. Example: I remember after he had that operation when he was on CNN, he was saying that the U.S. needed HCR. Then, when he got his cushy job at FOX, "AMERICAN HEALTH CARE IS ALREADY THE BEST!!! IT IS PERFECT!! WHY DOES OBAMA WANT TO FIX AMERICA!! COMMUNIST!!"
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (February 21, 2010 9:03 pm ET)
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      Re: The Headline. Aren't we all lucky!!
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    • Author by Dradeeus (February 21, 2010 9:35 pm ET)
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      Just like Limbaugh's everyman remarks about health care being so affordable. His doctor bills were ONLY half the cost of an SUV.
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      • Author by oscar the grouch (February 21, 2010 9:44 pm ET)
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        Well, if you could afford an SUV and only bought a Focus, you could pay the Dr Bills also ;>)
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    • Author by MagCynic (February 21, 2010 9:48 pm ET)
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      despite the fact that Beck, as my colleague Brian Frederick rightly pointed out, is hardly the everyman he likes to say he is.
      Oh, well then I guess because Brian said so it must be true.
      However, in Beck's case key details widen the gap between his everyman persona and reality.
      Ooh, I can't wait to find out.
      Beck -- who has reportedly said, "I was making, I don't know, a quarter of a million dollars by the time I was 25
      What's the point of putting this in here?
      the reason he was able to attend Yale (the everyman school) was due to a letter of recommendation from a sitting U.S. Senator
      Again, this is the big evidence of him not being an everyman? Try harder next time.


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      • Author by vysotsky (February 21, 2010 10:07 pm ET)
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        "Beck -- who has reportedly said, "I was making, I don't know, a quarter of a million dollars by the time I was 25"

        What's the point of putting this in here?

        Hi MagCynic,

        I think I can try to help. Earning $250K per year at 25 years of age is neither ordinary nor typical in the United States. I believe this point was placed here as an example of how Beck's experience is not exactly representative of average Americans, and therefore goes against Beck's portrayal of himself as an everyman.

        To put it another way: if Beck's earning $250K at 25 years of age poses no obstacle to his everyman status, then what does it take to be extraordinary?
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        • Author by MagCynic (February 21, 2010 10:13 pm ET)
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          So how much money you make determines if you should be considered an everyman? I thought it was your beliefs and convictions that determined your everyman status.
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          • Author by vysotsky (February 21, 2010 10:19 pm ET)
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            For me, yes, I'd consider a person's material conditions to be more significant, but I appreciate that you see one's mindset as the determining criterion.
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            • Author by mrhebert74 (February 21, 2010 10:46 pm ET)
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              Really vysotsky? Because that sort of naivete can lead to things like electing "Regular Joe" George W. Bush president and rejecting "elite, out-of-touch" Al Gore, John Kerry, (insert Democrat's name here), etc.

              For my part, I'd rather have an arugula-eating, effete intellectual snob who will support policies that benefit Regular Joes than a down-home, folksy, "g"-droppin' NASCAR dad/ hockey mom who, despite all appearances to the contrary, is powerful and monied and will go to bat for the powerful and monied. Much less a down-home, folksy, paranoid nutball who will use his publicly-presented "everyman mindset" to convince Regular Joes to vote for fake everymen and against their own interests.

              Just sayin'.
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              • Author by vysotsky (February 21, 2010 10:57 pm ET)
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                Pardon me? I only wrote that I appreciated MagCynic's position. I still think I'm right, and that a stronger case can be made for my position than against.
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                • Author by neon desert (February 21, 2010 11:52 pm ET)
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                  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

                  Is it the failure of the satirists, or just reflexive defensiveness to blame that there's been a lot of this around here lately?
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                • Author by mrhebert74 (February 22, 2010 9:15 am ET)
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                  Pardon me? I only wrote that I appreciated MagCynic's position. I still think I'm right, and that a stronger case can be made for my position than against.
                  I was trying to make the case that you shouldn't appreciate Mag's position. Since people who take that position are so easily led astray by those who play everymen on TV.
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                  • Author by mrhebert74 (February 22, 2010 9:19 am ET)
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                    in other words, I am aware you don't agree with Mag. Probably I should have been clearer about what I was responding to.
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                  • Author by vysotsky (February 22, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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                    "I was trying to make the case that you shouldn't appreciate Mag's position. Since people who take that position are so easily led astray by those who play everymen on TV."

                    Fair enough, but I think this argument will only further confuse MagCynic. From MagCynic's perspective, you've just said that you don't agree with electing people just for portraying themselves as "everymen" by virtue of their values and convictions rather than wealth disparity, yet you've also said that you would elect someone who shares your values and convictions when it comes to policy regardless of wealth disparity. If MagCynic can't recognize the contradiction in Beck's reliance on taxpayer supported state services that helped him become a "self-made man", then there's not much I can do besides acknowledge that MagCynic doesn't agree with me.
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          • Author by dirtylittlereligion (February 21, 2010 10:20 pm ET)
               
            What the hell is an "everyman status"? It sounds like an extension of the "Real America" talking point. Simply put, if you believe that there IS a "Real America" and that you are a "Real American", you are espousing an elitist attitude. It's simply elitism, no other way to spin it.
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          • Author by pete592 (February 21, 2010 11:01 pm ET)
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            You thought wrong. Everyman status in Beck's case is how easily he identifies with his audience. He makes more money in six months than a vast majority of his audience will earn during their entire lives.
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          • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:11 am ET)
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            Why yes, it is. By modern definition an "everyman" is an "ordinary representative of the human race." A man who makes $250,000 at the age of 25 [a VERY large sum of money back at that time] is NO everyman.
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      • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:08 am ET)
           
        Just goes to the point that Beck is a lying POS.
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    • Author by vysotsky (February 21, 2010 10:01 pm ET)
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      Glenn Beck (emphasis added):

      I educated myself. I went to the library -- the books are free. I went to the bookstore. I read until two, three o'clock in the morning some nights -- I still read until two, three o'clock some mornings -- after everything's done.

      I educated myself. My education was free and I'm proud of that. When did it become something of shame or ridicule to be a self-made man in America?


      Um, Glenn? Your speech was about the need to return to a strictly limited government that allows individuals to fail and never offers a handout. How exactly are you a self-made man if your education came from a state-run, taxpayer-supported public library?
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      • Author by MagCynic (February 21, 2010 10:12 pm ET)
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        There is a difference between state run programs and federally run programs. Libraries are typically state, county, or city run.
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        • Author by vysotsky (February 21, 2010 10:20 pm ET)
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          Yes, but it is still -- as I said -- state-run and paid for by one's fellow taxpayers.
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          • Author by MagCynic (February 21, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
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            Uh.. there's a difference. Conservative are concerned about federal abuses, not state abuses.
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            • Author by dirtylittlereligion (February 21, 2010 10:27 pm ET)
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              Well ain't that the truth. That's about the ONLY difference.
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            • Author by vysotsky (February 21, 2010 10:29 pm ET)
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              Thank you, MagCynic. I understand that federal government reform is a priority for American conservatives, but I didn't realize that states got a free pass. Thanks for enlightening me.

              Just out of curiosity, do you really consider state-run libraries an abuse?
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            • Author by benjr (February 21, 2010 10:49 pm ET)
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              Really? You speak for all conservatives now? And you know that they only care about federal abuses? That sounds like bullsh!t to me. It sounds like you just made that up to defend Beck. Can you give me any proof or data supporting your claim?

              Let's play a game though. Let's pretend that you are right, and conservatives only care about federal issues. Isn't that hypocritical? So you wouldn't care if the states raised taxes through the roof, but if the federal government did it there would be a problem? How does that work?
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              • Author by Midnight Kevin (February 22, 2010 6:30 am ET)
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                Haven't you paid attention to Glenn Beck's chalk boards? States with high taxes or social programs are horrible but red states with low taxes are good and conservative...
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              • Author by caseye (February 23, 2010 9:34 am ET)
                   
                Benjr,

                I think the point that he is making speaking of conservatives, and I am one, is that at the state level the citizens have more control over the outcome of issues and state run institutions. Many of us don't want the federal govt. taxing us for institutions and special programs that are not in our states and that we will not benefit from or maybe its something that the majority in the state does not support and should not have to contribute to in other states.
                Our Contitution set it up that way for that reason and it led to our success as a nation.
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            • Author by Unreality (February 21, 2010 11:09 pm ET)
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              ... there's a difference. Conservative are concerned about federal abuses, not state abuses.
              So that explains our problems in California.
              /sarcasm
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            • Author by pete592 (February 21, 2010 11:16 pm ET)
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              "Conservative are concerned about federal abuses, not state abuses."
              Not in my state. In Oregon, conservatives' idea of state abuse is educating our children in public schools. Teachers are public enemy #1 to conservatives where I live.
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              • Author by The_Cat (February 22, 2010 12:09 am ET)
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                Of course, pete592, because an educated populace will not fall for drivel like Glenn Beck, and will not elect fools like Dubya*. So, gotta keep 'em stoopid and working against their own best interests.

                (*I realize Bush II was appointed and not elected, but I was busy making a point here)
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              • Author by caseye (February 23, 2010 10:03 am ET)
                   
                pete592,
                I don't live in Oregon but I think that maybe it isn't that they think the teachers are public enemy #1 but the teacher unions. At least that is the problem where I live. The teachers don't have a choice, they have to join the union. And that union leader decides pretty much everything for that teacher and the school without a lot of consideration for the community they are in.
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            • Author by whatIthink (February 22, 2010 12:02 am ET)
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              Soooo, all these conservatives in Florida (where I live) are not really conservatives because they are fighting about state policies and taxes in Florida? I'll be sure to let them know that the national conservative spokesperson, MagCynic, does not consider them conservatives. I'm sure they'll be so awed by your political acumen that they'll immediately disavow the conservatism and form the proper, state party.
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              • Author by vysotsky (February 22, 2010 12:47 am ET)
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                Apparently, yes. This is news to me, but according to MagCynic, there seems to be nothing problematic or contradictory about Glenn's claim that he's a self-made man even though his education from "free" books at the public library came at the expense of his fellow taxpayers in his state. Who knew?
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                • Author by whatIthink (February 22, 2010 1:34 am ET)
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                  Well, apparently the rules are different in Beckerstan than they are here.
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            • Author by Midnight Kevin (February 22, 2010 6:29 am ET)
                 
              What about all that talk from the right I hear about Massachusetts horrible health care plan? Is that a state abuse that conservatives are concerned about, or no, because they benefit from it and the people want it? It seems like people enjoy these "liberal" programs, and when enacted, conservatives seem to like them to, except when bashing them to their base.
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              • Author by caseye (February 24, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
                   
                Themidnightreview,
                The point most conservatives are making is that it should be a State by State decision to have or not have a govt. run health care option, not a Federal govt. decision. It is uncontitutional to make govt. run health care a nation-wide program implemented and run by the fed. govt. And I know your next argument will be that we have Social Security and now Education that is controlled by the Fed. Govt (implemetation of "no child left behind"). As far as Soc. Security is concerned its in DEEP trouble now and "no child left behind" never did what it was suppose to do. The Fed. Govt. is usually inefficient at running anything with the one exception being our military.

                Conservatives want the decision on health care to be at the state level where it belongs. Also, as a whole conservatives don't want a mandate that all people HAVE to purchase health insurance, it is unconstitutional. Please don't go to the mandated "car insurance" example, that is to protect other drivers and you have the choice of not to drive a car.


                And I for one, would not like a govt. run health care option in my state, I like my insurance, I don't want the govt. anywhere near my healthcare decisions!!!
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            • Author by MagCynic (February 22, 2010 6:46 am ET)
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              I like how I say one thing and everybody over analyzes it. Nationally conservatives focus on the federal government and could care less about each individual state. It's that whole state's rights thing, remember?

              That's not to say though that there aren't groups in each state though fighting against state government abuses. I'm saying you just don't see conservatives from Oregon fighting against a Florida state-run program. That's why conservatives are for powerful state governments and a weaker federal government. It's easier to change policy at the state level versus the federal level as you are better represented at the state level.
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              • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:13 am ET)
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                Did you have the same teacher as Beck?
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              • Author by soze169880 (February 22, 2010 8:43 am ET)
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                Really? Because I see conservatives from states that don't allow gay marriage furiously attacking the ones that do all the time.
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              • Author by pete592 (February 22, 2010 11:45 am ET)
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                "I like how I say one thing and everybody over analyzes it."
                i.e. trolling.
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              • Author by vysotsky (February 22, 2010 12:03 pm ET)
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                "I like how I say one thing and everybody over analyzes it."

                I'm glad you like it, MagCynic. It's a discussion forum: people make comments, other people reply, and the really productive replies that move the discussion forward tend to include close readings of previous comments and critical thought.

                "Nationally conservatives focus on the federal government and could care less about each individual state. It's that whole state's rights thing, remember?"

                So from this perspective, Glenn Beck can call himself a "self-made man" because he only mooched off of his fellow local state taxpayers rather than federal taxpayers?
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              • Author by dmhack (February 22, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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                I don't over analyze anything you write MagCynic.
                I see you handle and assume it will be more idiocy. You never disappoint.
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            • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:13 am ET)
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              You don't even know what a conservative IS, Mag.
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          • Author by dirtylittlereligion (February 21, 2010 10:26 pm ET)
               
            "STAYYYY-TS RAAAAAHHHHHHHYYYYYGHTS!!!!!!!"

            Somehow state taxpayer money for socialistic programs is good, but federal taxes are EVIL.

            It's like instead of ONE EVIL BIG BROTHER, you have lots of good little brothers. Or make up your own goofy analogy.
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        • Author by worrierking (February 22, 2010 8:14 am ET)
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          What you tax cut groupies fail to understand is that all governments are connected. You insist on cutting federal taxes and then the states and towns increase their tax rates to make up for the federal money that no longer comes back to the local government.

          Everyone, except the federal government has to balance their budgets. With less federal money states must raise taxes and fees or cut services. Republicans run local campaigns railing against incumbents who either raise taxes or cut services.

          Most if not all services (police protection, fire departments, libraries and sanitation) are provided by cities and states who are on the verge of bankruptcy.

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    • Author by clams casino (February 22, 2010 12:40 am ET)
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      Well, we're not buddies or anything, not like we're out buying yarmulkes together.


      I love how he lets his bigotry just bubble to the surface here. He obviously thinks of Lieberman as his "Jewish friend."
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      • Author by dirtylittlereligion (February 22, 2010 12:57 am ET)
           
        That's kinda how I saw it too.

        "see?! SEE?! I have JEWISH friends! That means I'm NOT a bigot!"(missing the irony)

        What other reason would he have to mention "buying yarmulkes" unless he had something to prove and therefore wanted to reinforce Lieberman's Jewish faith?
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      • Author by Midnight Kevin (February 22, 2010 6:24 am ET)
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        More like "that Jew that got me into college." I don't think Beck would consider some liberal Jewish Senator a friend...
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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (February 22, 2010 6:23 am ET)
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      I know another person who is rich, attended Yale, and was vilified by the conservatives for doing so while claiming to be like you and me - John Kerry.
      -------------------------------
      The Midnight Review
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    • Author by bintx (February 22, 2010 8:04 am ET)
         
      Beck fails to mention that he got into that one class at Yale because of his friendship with Joe Lieberman [no longer friends] and it was when he was an adult. By that time, Beck was already making lots of money . . . it's just that most of it was going to drugs, alcohol and partying. What a liar.

      He's an uneducated, unintelligent fraud.
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    • Author by mfinn7314 (February 22, 2010 8:38 am ET)
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      Beck: "I educated myself. My education was free and I'm proud of that."

      Mystery (although not much of one) solved!

      And presumably this is a continual self-education like the guy in the movie "A Beautiful Mind" that Beck said he sometimes feels like. He's buried so deep in his own delusions it's surprising that he can still communicate with real people.
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