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CNN's John King health care summit analysis: Pelosi is "polarizing"

February 25, 2010 11:12 am ET by Media Matters staff

From a February 25 post on John King's Twitter feed:

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    • Author by The_Cat (February 25, 2010 11:14 am ET)
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      If by polarizing you mean in the sense of people vs. profit, then it really doesn't matter how polarizing Pelosi is, does it Mr. King? The Republicans have already chosen their side in THAT fight. They know which side their bread is buttered on.
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (February 25, 2010 1:23 pm ET)
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        King has heard and read a lot of stuff about Pelosi being polarizing, so...

        darn it! That women is polarizing!! If the GOP screams "she's polarizing" enough, that's good enough for King, she's gotta be polarizing. Lamar Alexander is a very nice, well-behaved conservative, really, a wonderful chap!
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    • Author by worrierking (February 25, 2010 11:15 am ET)
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      Maybe this is why King is no longer the host of CNN's "State of the Union".
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    • Author by progressivevoicedaily (February 25, 2010 11:41 am ET)
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      He is another horrible so called journalist. Another right wing shrill. No wonder they replaced him with Candy whatever her name is. POLARLIZING????????? every single republican opening statement was polorizing. John King is a D8bag
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    • Author by bintx (February 25, 2010 12:03 pm ET)
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      Ah, King is adhering to the RNC's agenda. It was their stated intent to present Pelosi as a "polarizing" figure in order to delegitimize her leadership.

      I think we know now why King lost his spot to Candy Crowley on Sundays.
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    • Author by riverdog (February 25, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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      mr king is right she is very polarizing and yes so are the repubs. but a big part of her job is to work with both and get things done. she won't do her job. or maybe she can't do it.
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      • Author by bintx (February 25, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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        Actually, she's not, but the RNC's stated goal of making her appear that way seems to have worked on you quite well.

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        • Author by mrhebert74 (February 25, 2010 3:15 pm ET)
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          Sorry, bintx, but I must disagree with you. Pelosi, as you probably know, is female, and because of that she's an instant turn-off for the Republicans, who are sexists. Therefore, she is "polarizing."
          In the same way that the President, by way of not being entirely of European descent, is polarizing. Do you see what I mean?
          Also, it's the victim's fault.
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    • Author by dmhack (February 25, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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      Lamar Alexander less polarizing? Please.
      Just as I thought... John King doesn't have a clue.
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    • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
         

      Come on. Every time either they get into the facts of the bill or debate key issues BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY when the President and other Democrats (Like The More Articulate Schummer) DEBUNK
      THE REPUBLICAN TALKING POINT LIES, CNN has gont into commercial
      or presented the Republican point of view from their "reporters


      While Media Matters is right to debunk The moment by moment bold faced lies on Radical Right Wing Repunlican Movement Organ fOX, The more moderate REPUBLICAN STATION: CNN IS MUCH MORE
      DANGEROUS because people think they are so called "fair & ballanced" ...A process by which Republican Talking Points are not challanged AND GET REPEATED ON EVERY STATION in a way that would make Hilter's Goebbles very proud! John King, as usual is full of malarky. Whether his education was cut by Reagan, is a Spun Spinner of the Republicans or an operative. But we know
      that as long as someone doesn't say they are a Republican they are in at CNN. Gloria Borger spent every night for months in the lead up to the 2004 elections with Murry from the Wall St. Journal on CNBC Trashing Kerry. When Hillary ran CNN had a scream sized hand written sign on behind the polico that said:
      Hillarey Racist (?). Mr. Gergen is in fact a Republican...Which the "senior" political analyst on MSNBC didn't know.

      Just for the record:
      1) Every year for many dacades The Democrats in both the House and Senate have each submitted their Baseline Healthcare bills
      which ALL Senators and Representatives HAVE SEEN.

      2) And For almost a year ***ON C-SPAN1,2& 3***I have seen hundreds and HUNDREDS of ***BIPARTISAN** Congressional Hearings and Committe mark-ups on Healthcare INCLUDING ABOUT 9 WEEKS (8+ houts a day) OF REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC MARK UPS IN THE SENATE FINANCE AND HEALTH CARE COMMITTEE...in which almost 500 REPUBLICAN Amendments Were included. AND WHICH KENNEDY ALSO WATCHED BEFORE HE DIED!

      3) 85% of the debt that we are in WAS WRACKED up by the Republicans ($10Trillon of the $12Trillion), 8 OF the last 11 administrations have been Republican.

      4) The Media Trained Republicans PUSHED OUR COUNTRY OFF THE CLIFFF. Under them we had a Radical Right Wing Dictatorship where the SAME REPUBLICANS in the House and Senate (WHO HAVE BEEN FILLUBUSTERING EVERYTHING) DID NO OVERSIGHT OVER THE BUSH WHITE HOUSE.

      5) And after they lost in 2006 THEY SET OUT AS THEIR ONLY JOB was TO: "Make the Democrats look bad to their contituants."

      6) EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK THE **Media Savvy** REPUBLICANS WORK ON THE BEHALF OF THE LOWEST STANDARDS FOR CORPORAITONS and they at night get on TV and ***PRETEND*** TO BE "populist" and evenr when it comes to legislations on programs like The Newshour it's GOP-POV.

      7) EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK DEMOCRATS WORK like hell on behalf of people (Employees, Middle Class, Working Poor, Voters, small
      businesses, constituants) and think that if they work hard to fix all the damage the Republicans did (WHICH TOOK BILL CLINTON 5 YEARS TO FIX) That everyone will know.

      8) The Tea baggers were ORGANIZED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND PAID FOR BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. They sent out a phoney Bill that said outrageous things to get tea baggers worked up, who were sent to the Democratic Representatives's meeting in their districts to mess them up.

      9)A now the rEPublicans are pretending to be independants as porn star Sctott Brown did in MA... about whom fellow Republican
      admitted "Brown is not a Policy wonk"

      Republicans HATE OUR Goverment, and spend all their time bamboozling the people whose lunch they ate into voting for them.
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      • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
           

        And that goes for MSNBC TOO.

        Right now Louise Slaughter is talking about how the Insurance companies
        consider being a woman a preexisting condition.

        But MSNBC (station of The Morning Drunks) is interviewing a right wing republican. And C-SPAN has been playing it on C-SPAN3

        And while they are smart to have Democrats on at night in competition with FOX (WHICH FOR THE INTELLECTUALLY HONEST IS A GOD SEND IN THE SEA OF 90% REPUBLICAN CONTROL OF MEDIA) DURING THE ACTUAL HEALTH CARE DEBATE EVEN THEY DID NOT BOTHER TO PRESENT THE DETAILS OF THE BILLS.
        and when they did just repeated "public option, public option" which should have been played to the tune of the Twilight Zone.

        As for Massachusetts, while Coakley's campaign manager was from Kindergarten compared to the Roviens who were sent in (which I for one knew about for 6 months) The Local Ma TV stations were ga-ga over Scott brown because his wife too is a News READER. This not to mention TALK RADIO which spreads ignorance and lies 55 seconds of every minute.

        One problem with Health Insurance Companies (AND THE SITUATION AND PROCESS) is that unlike other categories of insurance where BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY IT IS THE Insurance Companies WHO CHALLENGE THE PEOPLE THEY PAY to on cost. But here Instead they PASS ON THE COST
        TO THEIR customers ***who are also the patients*** AND THEN TACK ON SOME more.

        Insurance is about shared Risk. But this process where the Patient is also their Customer MEANS THAT A 3RD PARTY I.E. OUR Government MUST BE INVOLVED. Not to mention that they Government is the LARGEST CUSTOMER OF HEATH CARE AND HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO WORK ON REDUCING COST.

        Since the Democrats have a Majority AND HAVE WORKED EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK to maintain our Employer based system while Reducing Cost And raising quality IT IS TIME TO PASS THE COMBINED BILL Which ALREADY contains ALL OF THE Republicans Amendments (but covers over 30Millkon more people than the Republicans's and brings in what every sane insurance process must have i.e SHARED RISK.

        Democrats must pass THIS and screw the Republicans who are working for the Insurance companies and fooling everyone else. They will be seen as 'STRONG" if they do.

        And Mr., Obama needs to get Media Trained And should have used all those interviews to tell people that the Bill is 90-110B a year and not a trillion. Talked about Catastrophic in yearly number limits.
        and Get someone to replace Robert Gibbs. "ah, ah, ah" Every Republican who is worth his Media Training knows that you don't keep saying "ah ah ah" not to mention whatever he said on Good Morning American this morning..something about "A notion of Kabuki Dancing"

        Have Talking Points Will Travel





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        • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 1:38 pm ET)
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          I don't know Scott Brown tried to sell his daughters tp strangers in his acceptance speech. He and his (also a former porn star) wife remind me of the Silver Balloon familly.

          (effectively mooning Kennedy and all he has done, without taking credit for it in areas of the quality of life of our nation)
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    • Author by pros2pros2940 (February 25, 2010 1:13 pm ET)
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      The right wing has built a nation of cry baby followers through their constant whining about everything and everyone on talk radio and cable. Conduct that they most likely wouldn't approve of in their own "children".
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      • Author by riverdog (February 25, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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        i noticed a typo pro, it should read "the left wing has built a nation of crybaby followers". its ok, you don't have to thank me.
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        • Author by dmhack (February 25, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
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          I noted an error too...
          the right wing has built a nation of sore losers.
          Please, Craig...no need to thank me.
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        • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 1:44 pm ET)
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          Yes, calling Democrats "cry babies" is indeed a Republican Talking Point.

          But fact is the Republicans are cowards....as in refusing to talk
          to the bad guys....And it's all well and good to punch the Democrats about the head, stomach and back -- Knowing that Democrats are not abusive like them... But those of us who think for ourselves
          can see how every Republican complaints IS JUST A PROJECTION!
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      • Author by nerzog (February 25, 2010 1:48 pm ET)
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        That's why the Troglodytes spent so much money buying up all the radio stations... so they could carpet the market with a bunch of no-talent losers who were willing to parrot Republican talking points all day.

        And please, Craig9858857747747568585866, don't bother us with claims that Conservative Talk Radio is "superior" in content... nobody really believes that, not even the Troglodytes themselves.
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    • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 2:15 pm ET)
         

      John Enzi is on. I am sick of seeing his phony face from the countless BIPARTISAN Sub committee hearings on C-SPAN.

      Today's Republican Talking Point is this things about Health Savings Account. Where they claim that consumers will save
      --One "doctor" from the House who was more like a Republican
      Spin Doctor on Washington Journal said will save QUOTE: 30%

      While in this event the Republicans said it will save consumers
      38%

      What They LIE OF THAT IS: The reason Health Savings Accounts save 30%-38% IS BECAUSE THIS IS TAX FREE MONEY!...A no brainer
      that they make themselves look thoughtful about.

      What the Spin doctor, with the Phony smile, didn't say on Washington Journal was that WE ALREADY HAVE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS. What the Republicans want to do is have them extend from year to year..........Just another Tax Cut is all it is
      while they lie that it loweres cost. BECAUSE AS TAX PAYERS WE WOULD BE PAYING MORE ON THAT END.

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      • Author by nerzog (February 25, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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        I have a Health Savings Account. They're just cash cows for the Insurance Companies. It's a great deal if you're healthy, but if you have ongoing health problems, you're screwed. My premiums are, indeed, lower than the PPO I used to have, but the deductible is $6,000.

        Yeah... what a deal.
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    • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 2:28 pm ET)
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      About The Republican Talking Point of "The American People want us to start the process over again"

      1)After all that great work and a very good bill. More on that.
      It is the Insurance companies who want to quote: "start over again" because scapping all that good work means no health care
      reform.

      2) As for anything the American People believe about it. Since the Republicans control 90+% of the Media how can anbody busy with their lives not be brainwashed by the Republicans who are beholden to the Insurace, Oil, gas and other large corporations.

      Right now that Rockerfeller is Debunking CNN...you guessed it another commercial.

      And Fox is having Re runs of The Republican Controlled Tea Party scenes from the Summer.
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    • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
         

      Republican Ryan is on. While CNN had next to his name all kinds of nice things, NEVER SAID THAT HE WANTS TO ELIMINATE MEDICARE ENTIRELY. Like the fact that Republicans want to get rid of Social Security and let people put the money in the stock market (after encouraging younger people not to pay into it...would have meant borrowing another 3 Trillion from China so current recipeients would get what they have paid into all their lives) Wants to Give seniors tax credits. Just another phoney "You'r on your Ownership Society" that we had in the housing bubble. Let them get their Medicare it in the "free market"

      The Republicans are the ones who ramrodded through the Prescription drug bill. Next day the Major Ramrodders went to work for the Pharma companies. The Republicans gave the Insurance and pharma companies TENS OF BILLIONS UP FRONT TO RUN THIS NOW BEING GIVEN $100B a year by the federal Government. MADE IT ILLEGAL TO ** Negotiate VOLUME DISCOUNTS** (Called it "Price fixing"..Negotiating Volume Discounts is what WAlmart does every day of the week. MEANWHILE seniors in one location are PAYING 115% to cover other seniors in Southern and Rural states (the constituants of the Republicans)

      Meanwhile BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS REFUSED TO USE THE EXISTING MEDICARE PROGRAM FOR THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL THEY RAMRODDED THOUGH AT 6AM ON A SATURDAY MORNING This adds $$500B A YEAR TO
      THE **ANNUAL** BUDGET THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOW BLAMING OBMA FOR.

      Point being made now is that the Republicans use the Congressional Budget office numbers when it suites them but when CBO says that the bill bends the cost curve the republican (brainwashing liars) claim that CBo is wrong.

      ==When Reagan enteted office the annuale budget deficit was 68B
      ==When he left (after casigating carter) annual budget deficit was ***-279B***
      ==Bush 1 added another 110B == **--389B**

      When Clinton entered office he combed the budget line item by line item asking "If I cut this who will it impact go find out"
      And it was AL GORE who oversaw the reduction and transformation into A SMARTER GOVERNMENT. He used to come on 20/20 and report back on what waste he had found.

      And in Clinton's last 3 years he submitted ballanced budgets and began paying off the Republican debt $250B at a time!
      Meanwhile a bunch of Republican aDULTERS went on a fishing expedition. Invesitgating Clinton on countless things he and HILLARY WERE INNOCENT OF. And got him on lying about a 3 month betrayel of Hillary. Where they and their aids all had to declare bankruptcy for things they were all innocent of..while these Republicans spent 70Million going after them for nothing.
      While the Republican Media obsesses about it...failing to report how Clinton and his terrorism expert stopped 4 terrorist attacks!

      Then came Bush (a C student) who had left Texas bankrupt, Education and air quality 45th and 49th in the nation and Cheeney who was kicked out of Yale a failure.

      Their Tax cuts for the rich 1.5Trillion. Which is the Same amount they were collecting, during the same period of the Sociel Security SURPLUS!

      And they put all these costs IN ENRON OFF BALLANCE SHEET ACCOUNTING (Enron was the Republicans' largest contributor
      along with The Moonies and indigted Abromov)

      OBAMA PUT EVERYTHING BACK ON THE BALLANCE SHEET.

      These Republicans...same ones who object to these reforms are the ones who did not overgight over the Bush abuses!


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      • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
           
        During Reagan if came to light that seniors were eating Cat food to survive.

        That's what Republicans and their Ayan Rand "The Virtue of Selfishness"
        which Republican Glen Beck was reiterating on CPAC clearly meant when
        he said: "Some people will die before they hit bottom and we have to accept that"..unless of course they pull themselves up by their bootstaps.

        Only 9% of the 1.5Trillion in Republican Tax Cuts for the rich went into Jobs in the US.

        The rest went looking for "yield" or a place to use that money to make more money....used their tax cuts in such places as The Futures Market. Drove up the price of Copper from 85 cents to $3.60. Used their tax cuts on Oil Fututes drove that up from $28 a barrel to $146 a barrel. And while "hedging" is normally used by oil companies to get furure predictable rates the tax cuts for the right drove this $13B market to be a 269B Market.

        Other places were the stocks of these natural resource companies, in Australia, Indonesai. And the stocks of companies in Brazil, China, India and Russia.

        Not to mention into CHOPPED UP MORTGAGES...

        And while the Republicans have been blaming "Fanny&Freddy" as a way of blaming low income Minrorities for WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM. Fanny and Fredddy didn't get into subprime until the end of the boom (2006-07)
        were the only ones who had any standards. And Lower Income people WHO HAD ALREADY PAID OFF THEIR MORTGAGES were encouraged to take out Home EQUITY lOANS...

        The Republican Brainwash about 'fiscal responsibility"...when they have NEVER EVER BEEN FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE...While the Media Roles their eyes
        THE RELATIVELY FEW TIMES OBAMA POINTS OUT What he inheritted.

        But is it WE WHO INHERITTED...A MESS IN EVERY CATEGORY. The benign neglect The Republicans perpetrated in Afghanistan, that like Bush1 when he left there caused the Al Qaeda Morons to believe they could destroy us like they believe they did to the Soviets.

        McCain, by the way knows nothing about Economics and markets...looked moronic in a congressional hearing with greenspan the other day. Romney laeft a big defecit in Massachusetts...where every day he was governor allowed innovative companies to be lured away to other states...like the South where he was on C-SPAN trashing the state he was governor of in southern Republican States.

        UNder the Republicans 800 research labs moved to China, insisted on
        it being tax deductable to close a manufacturng facility in the US and reopen it in China...Which Kerry ran against.

        As for the 2000 page Bill. The reason it is big is Because it refers to other sections and laws SO AS TO NOT CHANGE EXTISTING Laws.

        ONE OF THE BIGGEST REPUBLICAN BRAINWASHES IS THE ONE THAT EQUATES DEMOCRATS WITH REPUBLICANS as part of their effort to: QUOTE "Make the Democrats look bad to their constituants.!

        This bill costs between 90b & 110B a year, Includes Prevention which takes times but works,...and is likely to move some people away from pharmaceuticals and all their side effects.

        I gives incentives to people to go into Primary Care which is STILL cheaper than top heavy specialists... Encourages doctors to work in teams..Versus like high paid per Dim Consultants. All of these things and others will save huge sums, Promotes such things as FASTER, MORE ACCURATE diagnosis when they talk about paying for better outcomes.

        Time to pass the bill..as it will ALSO will help Companies who provide health care be MORE COMPETITIVE.






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    • Author by MinerSam (February 25, 2010 5:28 pm ET)
         


      BOTTOM LINE:

      The Republicans HATE OUR Government. And therefore should get out
      of it ASAP. and let the adults do their work.

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