Red State's Erickson: "It is and has always been the left" who resorts to violence

Oh yeah! Like Pinochet, the Salvadoran Death Squads, Apartheid era South Africa's BOSS, the KKK, the Branch Davidian whackos in Waco, Timothy McVeigh and his militia mates...not to forget the Brownshirts, Blackshirts and assorted skinhead groups.

All raving lefties?

Timothy McVeigh? Hello? Anyone there? The KKK? No bombings and killings there. CIA backed murder of Allende? What! Mossadeq? The Right is ALWAYS Right. Self serving amd self righteous. Given the climate of fear being stoked by the likes of Glenn Beck and others Erickson will live to eat those words.

Lets see, some gun nut, shoots 3 cops in Pittsburgh. Anti- government guy flies his plane into a IRS building. Some nut job shoots a couple of people at the Pentagon. A guy shots a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington.

Sure sounds like a bunch lefties to me. Guess I better suit up in my camouflage, and join up with a militia before I get left behind by all my lefty/pinko/commie friends.

I can only assume that Erickson is lonely. That's the only rational explanation I can find for his offering such an irrational, unburdened by facts post. He'll get a lot of hits today, and many will make comments, and by nightfall he'll be able to say to himself, "People are paying attention to me. I'm important."

This piece seems similar to some of the comments we see from many of our favorite trolls who come in here begging for a heated argument and then looking at the number of thumbs down they receive as a badge of honor and some kind of justification for their nonsense.

History undeniably offers long lists of monsters from the "left" and monsters from the "right." I suppose we could all get into a pi$$ing contest over which "side" is responsible for the most monsters and the terrible things they have done. Nevertheless, the inconvenient truth Erickson eagerly ignores is that in current times it has been the extreme right that has loudly directed language of distrust, fear, and hatred towards those who look different, pray different, believe different, and who walk a path in life that they personally don't approve of. Making matters far worse is that those all too reprehensible souls are receiving encouragement from a select group of radio and talk show hosts who are gleefully fanning these flames in order to receive higher ratings and fatter paychecks.

The only people who will agree with this ridiculous rant will be the fools, the cowards, the closed minded. Erickson has written a piece that will appeal only to the worst impulses of the worst elements in our society.

Margaret Sanger: I wonder why Erickson doesn't like birth control.

oh, so this iis evidently the latest buzz word or phrase from the wrongnuts. Yesterday Breitbart on Big.Governement, and today with Carlson on Fox and Friends and Erickson at RedState: the left, the Democrats are the violent ones. Associate every Democrats actions with a word of violence.
Come on Dems! call them out on this and show the country were all the recent violence has come from

Maybe we should prove him right.

Right, because throwing blood on fur and "rioting during G-8 summits" is comparable to Oklahoma City.

The right wing's rhetoric serves as a direct contradiction to Erickson's assertion: ask yourself, which side of the political spectrum has demonized the word 'pacifist' and made it an antonym of 'patriot'? There's always an underlying current of violence to the right's rhetoric that is absent in left wing types, if only because those familiar with history understand that progressive change cannot be mediated by violence and that people cannot be terrified into a better world.

Erickson is truly a mental midget. False equivalences, selective references, and a total lack of logic and common sense are part and parcel of his endless stream of drivel. The history of murdering despots and where they supposedly fall on the ideological spectrum is irrelevant to what is happening today in this country. The right features not only fringe groups but also prominent media figures (Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter, etc.) and elected representatives that consistently use violent rhetoric to advance their agenda. There are very few comparable players on the left. This is the territory that demands discussion. We learn absolutely by Erickson's obtuse rant that takes Godwin's Law and turns it up to eleven.

It is not conservatives burning down the Texas Governor's Mansion during riots.

Inferring, of course, that it was "the left".

Wikipedia:

"State Fire Marshal Paul Maldonado said Sunday that investigators have evidence that an arsonist targeted the 152-year-old building. They have made no arrests, and don't have a suspect. An official close to the investigation said agents determined the fire was a criminal act after reviewing footage from security cameras."

From Hitler to Mao to Lenin to Stalin to Chavez to Castro to Guevera to Arafat to Pol Pot to Mugabe to [insert your favorite American union] to Margaret Sanger the left and its heroes have used death, violence, and murder to advance their agenda.

I cannot believe that he seriously put this group to the left. What is it with the Right trying to re-write history????

I was a high school student in Birmingham when the public schools were desegregated. People died, and it wasn't the left that killed them.

It is and has always been the left. Deal with it.

Revisionist history at it's finest.

I don't suppose he ever heard of the right wing death squads in south america and other countries. Link

It isn't that there hasn't been instances of left wing groups using terror for political gain, it is just that the right is far from clean on this.


Of course, I am sure he thinks that anyone who uses terror is a left wing group. No matter what the facts are.

Again, someone's going to have to explain to me when Hitler became a liberal. And when he became an atheist. And when he became a fan of Darwin. And... pretty much the entire right-wing narrative on Hitler needs explained, really.

Erikson forgot to mention Count Dracula, Darth Vader, King Coopa, Lex Luthor and the octopus. Oh yeah, and we all know Goerge W. Bush was also a liberal.

Let's see, in modern-day America, which side has all the guns and stockpiles of ammunition?

And which side is always calling for reasonable gun control laws?

Just asking.

Wasn't fascism on the conservative end of the spectrum?

Don't forget Romney's claim of the "neo-monarchist" threat...

Can one be both a tree-hugging, draft-dodging hippie and a violent thug?

It seems the right wing is getting its memes crossed.

WTF? Is it now conventional wisdom that Hitler was on the left?

Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge were able to gain power due to support from Nixon and Kissinger (real left-wingers I must say).

Nazism was brought to Germany as an alternative to the progressive policies of the Weimar Republic. Even though it is called National Socialism and implemented policies such as public works projects and government spending, Hitler was not a leftist and had very conservative views (opposed homosexuality, saw communists as an enemy, etc.).

Stalin hi-jacked the communist revolution in Russia and implented a form of state-capitalism where the means of production are not controlled by the workers (as in Lenin's vision of society) but by the state. This form of state-capitalism was and is seen all over the world and incorrectly referred to as communism.

Leftists may protest at meetings of world leaders or through blood at fur wearers but they are not murdering abortion doctors or blowing up government buildings.

Smashing windows and petty vandalism cannot be equated with murder and these right-wing bloggers have really got to learn about history before they go talking about things that they do not understand.

Not at all a new tactic for the right. Ann Coulter claimed that all US presidential assassins were Liberals in her book, Liberal Victims and their assault on America (2003). The problem for the right is that they are associated with numerous and prolonged incidents of violence--Chile under Pinochet(1973-1990, with CIA support), the Dirty War in Argentina (1975-1978, with explicit support from Henry Kissinger), massacres in Guatemala (c1975-1985, with direct aid from the US Government), to name a few. These and other right-wing assaults were responsible for thousands of civilian deaths.

Margaret Sanger?

Murder, death, violence? Oh yeah, must have been that upstart of a female who happened to believe in a woman's right to birth control AFTER her years as a nurse watching women DIE during child birth and bringing child after child into the world knowing that the family had no way of feeding and caring for them safely and/or properly due to the poverty they were trapped within. THAT Margaret Sanger.

I used to live near UC Berkeley. Every so often the students will go on a rampage and break every storefront window next to the campus. The leaders of these rampages are definitely left-leaning.

The UCB administration will tell businesses that the students provide the majority of their business so get used to it.

Hal Turner
Shawna Forde
James Von Brunn
Scott Roeder
Daniel Cowart
Paul Schlesselman
Daniel knight Hayden
Timothy McVeigh
Richard Poplavski
Jim Adkisson
Charles Carl Roberts
Jennifer San Marco
Chad Castagana
Demetrius "Van" Crocker
Eric Rudolph

All right wing, all violent

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To the extent a person's or personality's consciousness grows occupied with doing violence, premeditated murderous violence, then probably any sense of leftist or rightist principle as a motivational basis of contemplated behavioral action is flooded over (with the hate juices) and pushed asunder.

Maybe the sub-organ part of the brain which determines to do violence is a separate compartment of the brain, away from where conscious balance (or cognizance) considers on either side the tenets of both leftism or rightism, the sense of 'collective' -- "what am I part of?," and (versus) sense of 'individuality' -- "what part is for me?"

I still say right-brain thinking is political leftism, (inductive logic, where the sense of 'group' comes from), and left-brain thinking is political rightism, (reductive logic, deducing 'self' in the sensorium universe); so everybody is both a leftist and a rightist, (where everyone has two brains, is 'of two minds') -- some people with one brain fixedly dominant, but most people flexibly balancing left-brain and right-brain activities in different proportions through the stages of life, and circumstance, as needs change and comprehension grows; and forward political progress obtains in sensing and using both sides of cognition, in turn, same as forward walking on two legs. And all this 'cognition' and 'social communication' (my definition of politics), occurs in the outer layer, or cortical 'shell' of the brain waaaay different from the 'thinking' (of hate, and violence, and murder) that occurs in inner, primitive, basal, brain-stem regions and sub-organs, (which are mainly autonomous-form and single-function and, so, which do NOT 'see both sides' or have two ways of considering the 'thought' that arises in their purview).

Everybody thinks both leftist and rightist, in their cognitions at the evolved envelope-area of brain, (i.e., 'grey matter').

Only a real dumb@ss thinks violence and hate . . . it isn't even 'thinking,' it's 'feeling' in the dark core-brain.

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Let's not forget the real lefty-liberal, ADOLPH HITLER!!

What about the guy who blew a man's head off after 9/11, his reason being the guy was wearing a turban and may have been a terrorist? Is he a left-wing nut, too?

Or how about that group Christian Identity? They are the domestic terror group which, according to the Anti-Defmation League, has between 25,000-50,000 adherents IN THE U.S. (that's as many or more members than the Taliban has in Afghanistan, except these wack jobs ALREADY LIVE HERE). Of course you know who they are, they're the ones who believe a war is coming with white christian people on one side and everyone else on the other. Do a little research and you'll discover one of their most favorite past times is killing law enforcement officers and planning domestic bomb attacks. They're liberals, too, right Erick?

Who pays these fruitcakes to write this s--t and actually thinks they spent their money wisely?

wait... I thought everyone on the left were a bunch of spineless pu... hippies!