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WashPost's Howard Kurtz: We decide what's "serious" debate

March 11, 2010 9:17 am ET by Eric Boehlert

The Post's media critic today in his column highlights Rep. Patrick Kennedy's recent rant against the "despicable" national press corps for paying more attention this week to the Massa saga than a Congressional debate about the Afghanistan war. 

Here's the Kennedy clip. (He addresses the news media in the first 45 seconds): 

Here is Kurtz's take [emphasis added]: 

I enjoy a good anti-media rant as much as the next guy, but let's get real. This was a vote on a symbolic resolution, pushed by Dennis Kucinich, to pull all troops out of Afghanistan by year's end. It went down 356 to 65. The news business has devoted considerable resources to this war and many correspondents have risked their lives to cover it. The House did not conduct a serious debate yesterday on ending the war, and therefore it wasn't covered seriously. 

First of all, Kennedy wasn't referring to overseas war coverage. He was talking about that fact that inside the Beltway the debate over the Afghanistan war --the policy story -- is being ignored. So Kurtz's reference to overseas correspondents risking their lives misses the point. 

Second of all, as Kennedy noted in his tirade, only two reporters, he claimed, showed up to cover the Congressional debate. According to Kurtz that wasn't a big deal because the debate was not "serious." But how did journalists know that before they decided not to show up to cover the debate? 

Contrary to Kurtz's suggestion that the lack of coverage reflected the non-serious nature of the debate, it appears that journalists were going to skip the debate no matter what the content turned out to be.

In other words, it was just a (liberal) Kucinich resolution. 

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    • Author by worrierking (March 11, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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      The news business has devoted considerable resources to this war.

      Most of those resources were used to sell it.
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    • Author by bruce1ace (March 11, 2010 9:30 am ET)
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      Come on. After the months it took for this administration to formulate their Afghanistan strategy they sure aren't going against that at this point and pull out all troops by years end.

      Kurtz is right on the Kucinich resolution, it was strictly symbolic.
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      • Author by Leftylib (March 11, 2010 10:01 am ET)
           
        True, the Kucinich resolution was strictly symbolic. And to me, that is the story that the press needs to cover. Why is such a resolution "strictly symbolic". We are essentially admitting that war policy in this country is "fixed". And I use the word "fixed" the same way the word is used to describe professional wrestling.
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      • Author by The_Cat (March 11, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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        It did not take months for President Obama to formulate his Afghanistan strategy. February 18, 2009, less than a month after being sworn into office, he committed a further 17,000 troops to that country.

        You miss the point that they had no way of knowing whether or not the resolution was symbolic before they decided whether or not to cover it, bruce1ace. It was proposed by a Democrat, and so it was ignored by the media, which is a right-leaning institution and has been since the 80s.
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      • Author by dkylep (March 11, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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        Wait a moment. So when a congressman introduces a bill to try and remove American troops from a country that we shouldn't have invaded and one in which civilians are killed on a weekly basis, it's 'symbolic'? Or could it just have been that Kucinich actually believes that actually respecting the sovereign rights of other nations is important, and that's why he did that?

        Zinn put it best, "There's a terrorist in your neighborhood, so bomb the neighborhood." That's about he war in Afghanistan. Terrorist in the country? Bomb the country and invade it! The only sensible thing to do, right? And by that reasoning, a congressman saying that we shouldn't be there at all and need to leave is doing something 'symbolic'.

        The entire line of reasoning that Kurtz uses is barking mad. The entire line of reasoning you're using, which sums up to, 'Well, we've put a lot of time and money into illegally invading that country, and we sure wouldn't want our investments to go to waste, so we're going to stay there.' is beyond ludicrous.
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 11, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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        I don't think we should remove all of our troops from Afghanistan. There are a lot of things that Rep Dennis Kucinich believes and supports that I don't.

        That doesn't change the fact that his amendment should have gotten more attention than it got, and it shouldn't be dismissed as a non-serious debate!

        Did you even read the MMFA article?

        Kennedy wasn't referring to overseas war coverage. He was talking about that fact that inside the Beltway the debate over the Afghanistan war --the policy story -- is being ignored. So Kurtz's reference to overseas correspondents risking their lives misses the point.

        Second of all, as Kennedy noted in his tirade, only two reporters, he claimed, showed up to cover the Congressional debate. According to Kurtz that wasn't a big deal because the debate was not "serious." But how did journalists know that before they decided not to show up to cover the debate?

        Contrary to Kurtz's suggestion that the lack of coverage reflected the non-serious nature of the debate, it appears that journalists were going to skip the debate no matter what the content turned out to be.

        In other words, it was just a (liberal) Kucinich resolution.
        Report Abuse
    • Author by vwcat (March 11, 2010 11:38 am ET)
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      this is what I wrote in the comments on Kurtz's column and hopefully someone at the Post will read it. Also, it's my comment for here but, too long to post on here.
      Link

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031101195_Comments.html
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    • Author by johhny_whistle (March 11, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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      And since when does giving a free and open platform to any GOPer who wants to trash Obama constitute "covering" the war? Because that's been the bulk of the story on the domestic side.
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